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Beach erosion study delayed again

Some people out here care about fish. Are you really from Springs? Doesn't sound like it, when you're dissing fish like that. As far as the rest of it goes, it's all in the public record, and you don't diminish it by trotting out a lot of old fraternity pranks that you'll do if it's true. It is true, but save us the dramatics. " Aug 31, 10 3:39 PM

Lights still on as radio station wins short reprieve

Small change to some, maybe, but once more Tim Bishop is out there taking care of business, doing what needs to be done in the real everyday world." Sep 1, 10 1:46 PM

Maertz to face off against LaValle in Calcaterra's stead

My mistake -- Tim Bishop has only been in office for 8 years, not 10 years." Sep 9, 10 12:30 PM

Rechlers say they are running out of patience

Many people say that if PDDs are to continue in Southampton, there must be a clear definition of the significant public benefit which is the condition for granting PDD status. It's a hard notion to define, and the Town may have to proceed by giving examples of what would and wouldn't constitute a significant public benefit. Experience has shown that, say, a minimal provision for affordable housing doesn't cut it. Something else that would be hard to justify as a significant public benefit is the preservation of the archtecturally undistinguished, historically unremarkable, and structurally unsafe building called the Canoe Place Inn. It will be a tragedy if we let a misguided group of obsessive boosters push us into yet another instance of selling out Southampton for chump change. " Sep 10, 10 8:26 PM

Three Republican candidates will battle on Tuesday for right to challenge Bishop in November

Folks, take a good look at what PatrioticNYer posted up above (Sept. 9, 2:57 PM) about Randy Altschuler's outsourcing history. Notwithstanding some overheated language, the basic facts are all true. Please note especially that the only Americans he'll hire are salespeople to convince other businesses to export jobs through his company, and the telling remark that Long Island will become a laughingstock if we elect Mr. Office Tiger the Job Outsourcer to Congress. What a bad joke this guy is!" Sep 11, 10 11:06 AM

Nice work, Sparkibew, and as a semantic exercise, of course your version has some appearance of truth. But ask yourself, between your version and dagdavid's, which one reflects more accurately what's going on here in the First Congressional District of New York today, as we speak? I say it's dagdavid's. In another time, it may be your version, but not now." Sep 12, 10 10:33 AM

Altschuler will face Bishop in November

Some folks here are trying to equate job loss by outsourcing with job "loss" to immigrants, but there's a big difference. The jobs that Randy Altschuler has taken away and shipped to India are what the financial industry calls "back office" work. It's routine and ministerial, in the nature of record-keeping and everyday accounting, and it's toward the lower end of the Wall Street pay scale, but it's work that American citizens want to do. Indeed, there was an American doing every single job that Altschuler's Office Tiger company took away and sent overseas.

By contrast, the jobs that get done by immigrants through the 7-11 hiring process are truly jobs that most Americans don't want to do -- lawn mowing, window washing, mulching, etc -- hard work at the very bottom of the pay scale. These jobs aren't being "lost" to immigrants at all, because there's no native work force willing to do them. On the other hand, there was an American work force doing the jobs that Randy Altschuler took away, and these people and their families have been devastated by him and his like.

Note, too, that Mr. Altschuler's ads claim that he has created jobs in America, but the only jobs he's created here are sales positions promoting the outsourcing services of Office Tiger -- convincing businesses to fire Americans and give their jobs to someone in India, and to pay Randy Altschuler handsomely for arranging it.

There are two real problems here. The first is Mr. Altschuler's dishonesty in trying to make it look like he's created jobs, and in trying to obscure the real nature of his business. Second, in an election year in which most agree that the three top issues are Jobs, Jobs and Jobs, Randy Altschuler seems to be going in exactly the opposite direction to where the country needs to go. Not a good choice for Congress. " Sep 16, 10 12:25 PM

Hey, good news! Bigfresh is back, with some fresh misinformation. I think most everybody, on both sides of this campaign debate, would agree that people who are independently wealthy and living on interest from trust funds overwhelmingly vote Republican, not "Demokrat,' as you put it." Sep 17, 10 2:19 PM

Summertime and METCOMedia are exactly right. Couldn't say it better myself. Notice what an intelligent response uncleronk has." Sep 18, 10 12:43 PM

Sag Harbor Board appoints Schiavoni as first Village Justice

Best wishes to Justice Schiavoni and the new Sag Harbor Village Court." Sep 19, 10 6:17 PM

Altschuler will face Bishop in November

OK, bigfresh, we're making some progress. When you attribute Democratic voting to people "living on the dole," that's at least consistent with the usual right-wing slander, much as I might disagree with it. But you're still puzzling me with that "trust fund baby" whom you say is a Dem voter, again because I think it's pretty clear that most of those types vote for the GOP." Sep 20, 10 2:31 PM

That's just joe being joe." Sep 20, 10 2:36 PM

It's all about jobs this year, and instead of being part of the solution, Randy Altschuler is a big part of the problem. Tim Bishop works to create American jobs, but Randy Altschuler works to create Indian jobs. He's done well, too, shipping about 10,000 jobs overseas and making a fortune doing it. While this was going on, Tim Bishop got funding for 1,000 jobs at Brookhaven National Lab on Long Island, plus subsidies and tax breaks for small businesses that hire new employees. Mr. Altschuler has betrayed his fellow citizens, doing exactly the opposite of what needs to be done for the US economy. It's economic treason. Electing Randy Altschuler to Congress would be like putting an arsonist in the fire department. " Sep 27, 10 8:52 PM

A call for PDD moratorium in Southampton Town; Supervisor willing to consider dropping controversial planning tool

Noah Way is so right! You have to give Chris Nuzzi some kind of perverse credit, though, for sticking by his development friends even when everyone else seems to be going the other way. This is a good piece, but Ms. Abbas missed Anna Throne-Holst's excellent response to Mr. Nuzzi's instinctive objection. She said that, whether it will be technically a moratorium or something else, the Town Board needs to send a message to the public and the developers that is isn't going to consider PDD applications for a while. That tells the public the Board is listening to them, and it saves the developers from needless wheel-spinning. Just so, ATH." Oct 1, 10 12:44 PM

Shinnecocks want three casinos on Long Island

Let's hope the Shinnecock are just staking out a negotiating position. Otherwise, it will be endless trouble." Oct 1, 10 12:47 PM

Throne-Holst: No layoffs in 2011 tentative budget

As baywoman rightly says, no layoffs, no service cuts, and a tax hike at less than half of the 5% cap, with the extra tax money all going to help get us out of the hole that the Republicans dug in past years. What's not to like? While posters on 27east can knock themselves out with negativity, it will be hard for the two Republicans and one Conservative on the Town Board to criticize this budget. Why is that? Because, despite repeated invitations for them to participate in the process, to take part in the many meetings and contribute their input, they never did so. They stiffed the Supervisor completely, and never even entered the room. Chris Nuzzi, Nancy Graboski and Jim Malone fell down on the job they were elected to do, which is to express the will of their voters. Since they took no part in the budget process, they are in no position to criticize it. Unfortunately, I expect they will anyway. This all smells like what the Republicans do on the national level -- sit back, offer no input, pose no alternatives, just say no and attack. Sad situation." Oct 3, 10 11:11 AM

Republican candidate for the assembly addresses community meeting

The only reason the Republicans endorsed Richard Blumenthal is because they're still waging a vendetta against Fred Thiele for walking out on them. The elephant never forgets, right?" Oct 3, 10 12:34 PM

A call for PDD moratorium in Southampton Town; Supervisor willing to consider dropping controversial planning tool

I think I share Mr. Schepps' goals, but believe he's going after them in the wrong way. He says we'd be better advised not to define "community benefit," declaring "the more you try and pigeon hole things like community benefit the more you play into the hands of some really smart, resourceful, wealthy people." I understand why he feels that way, but long experience has taught me the opposite. The less definition there is, the wider the hole through which the developer can drive a truck. The tighter the definition, the smaller that hole is. Lack of precise definition only increases the possibilities of getting around the law, and enriches the lawyers who devise ways to do it. " Oct 3, 10 12:45 PM

Couple stalls wind turbine plans

Just like your hot air lights up this board, right, unc?" Oct 3, 10 8:39 PM

Throne-Holst: No layoffs in 2011 tentative budget

Ridiculous, it is you who has the facts wrong. Can't say more, but that's how it is." Oct 4, 10 11:35 AM

One thing I can say, ridiculous, is that your comment is contradictory on its face. You say it's "up to the supervisor and the supervisor alone to make the tentative budget,", but then you assert that "some board members did participate in the process thus far." Get your story straight. " Oct 4, 10 11:39 AM

This looks like a personal feud. Letsbehonest only joined us for the first time yesterday, and three of his four comments so far have been attacks on Mike Benincasa. "The root of all dishonesty"? Really? It would almost be funny if it weren't so irresponsible to slime someone without citing specifics.
" Oct 5, 10 12:11 PM

Around Southampton Town Hall

What's going on with Jim Malone? This normally very courteous man seems to have a huge chip on his shoulder. Maybe he had a tough morning, or maybe he's been hanging out too much with the bad crowd in the playground. " Oct 5, 10 12:22 PM

Congressional race kicks off; candidates trade blows

On the Tim Bishop side:

1,000 jobs created at Brookhaven National Lab
The Credit Cardholders Bill of Rights
Wall Street Reform
Defense of Medicare against Republican attacks
Improved health care for veterans
Tax cuts for small businesses that hire people.

On the Randy Altschuler side:

Zero experience
Failure at seeking office in New Jersey
A recent move to Long Island
10,000 jobs shipped off to India
Would repeal health reform
Would trash Social Security and Medicare.

Game over." Oct 6, 10 3:21 PM

Throne-Holst: No layoffs in 2011 tentative budget

"What does she care, she rents." You really are ignorant of basic economics, aren't you, reg rep? What do you think a landlord does with a tax increase, eat it? They pass it right on to the renter, of course. Renters are just as affected by real estate taxes as anyone." Oct 6, 10 9:38 PM

I really push your buttons, don't I, reg rep? Good. Be aware, though, that as baywoman and I pointed out above, this budget calls for no layoffs, no cuts in services, and a 2.4% tax hike, which is less than half of the 5% cap on tax increases. Not bad. We also noted that all of that extra tax money is going to fill the hole that the Republicans, not ATH, dug for us. Just look at the 2nd paragraph of this article. It refers to the 2.4% tax increase, and says "with the additional revenue going toward paying down deficits remaining in the waste management and beaches enterprise funds." You know as well as I do that it's those two funds that the Republicans shorted by their incompetence, thus causing the problem. Conclusion: Don't lay the tax hike at ATH's door. That's not where it belongs." Oct 7, 10 11:16 AM

Altschuler balks; debate with Bishop canceled

Ha!! Another phoney exposed. You at least have to give Randy credit for having the brains not to go in front of an audience and have to defend his carpetbagging, progress-bashing, job-killing record, especially against a solid citizen like Tim Bishop. Smart move, Randy. " Oct 11, 10 10:21 AM

I just figured it out. If Randy Altschuler is reluctant to debate Tim Bishop himself, maybe he could outsource the job." Oct 11, 10 10:43 AM

The gentleman sugests there may not be much difference between the League of Women Voters and the Southampton Citizens Forum. Oh yes, there is. Check it out:

The League of Women Voters has been around since 1920, is active with 900 chapters in all 50 states, and has an unquestioned record of being fair and nonpartisan. (Well, not 100% unquestioned -- one poster here calls them a "liberal Democratic tool," but then you can find folks who say the world will end tomorrow, too.)

As to the Southampton Citizens Forum, it's hard to say. A google search reveals nothing about them but the above article, so let's look at that. The piece quotes their event guy, James Boyd, as saying it's a "loosely organized group made up of concerned residents of all political stripes," including some Tea Party folks. All we have is this quote and Tim Bishop's charge, also reported above, that the Forum is associated with the Tea Party and has a partisan agenda.

I think most people would agree Tim Bishop is right to say no thanks to the Southampton Citizens Forum, and Randy Altschuler can't challenge the impartiality of the LWV (which he hasn't, by the way). As I suggested earlier, Randy can always outsource the debate if he doesn't want to do it himself.

" Oct 11, 10 1:33 PM

Does Throne-Holst have support for a Planned Development District moratorium?

People are missing the point by fixating on the notion that the Town Board already has discretion to deny PDD status in any case, so why declare a moratorium? Maybe, they say, a moratorium isn't even technically correct for that reason. This approach ignores Anna Throne-Holst's idea that, regardless of the technical aspects of the matter, declaring a moratorium on PDDs will send a message to the people that the Board is listening to them, and also to developers that they shouldn't waste time and effort on PDD applications, at least not for the present. This is a good and practical idea.

Also, note that it's the development-friendly faction on the Board -- Chris Nuzzi, Nancy Graboski & Jim Malone -- that's insisting no moratorium is needed. Is it because they have such a finely honed sense of correct legal procedure, or because they just want to leave the door open, however narrowly, for their developer constituents? No prizes for guessing which it is." Oct 11, 10 8:42 PM

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