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UPDATE: Motorcyclist Injured In Saturday Night Crash Has Surgery, Still in Hospital

I was flown to Stony Brook in 1998 after an accident that left me with injuries that were questionable in their extent. Due to a split second decision by emergency personnel it was decided that I should be airlifted to Stony Brook. This decision at the time seemed to be a cautionary measure and one which the aforementioned personnel fretted over because of public doubt like that expressed by icecreamman. While in the air the Suffolk County Police Aviation unit and perhaps local volunteer paramedics (I don't recall and would hate to omit credit) realized I was losing blood internally and arranged for emergency surgery. In transit, I had lost 70% of my blood internally with no outward signs of bleeding. The cardiac surgeon who operated on me said I had less than 5 minutes to live by the time I landed had she not operated on me. I would not be alive if I were driven to the local hospital. Please don't question "all these medevac rides" Rides? You must be kidding icecreamman. My family and friends and two beautiful children (born years after this accident) might beg to differ with your perspective on the decisions that these heroes have to make every day. I hope Mr. Manglaviti has a full recovery and I feel for his pain caused by someone turning in front of his path of travel. " Apr 17, 12 10:03 PM

Surf Camp Causes New Conflict At Picnic Area Beach

Petition drive was started by lifelong residents trying to protect the last bit of enjoyment we relish in a town that has sold the rest of itself out to money." Aug 23, 12 2:36 PM

Please contact the village to express your position at themayorsoffice@Southamptonvillage.org. Namely your position on private citizens having to get the village to enforce its own laws so that we don't lose our beach access." Aug 23, 12 5:56 PM

Correction: mayorsoffice@southamptonvillage.org" Aug 23, 12 9:56 PM

mayorsoffice@southamptonvillage.org" Aug 23, 12 9:59 PM

Petition started which may impact camp in question is titled "save the picnic area". It states "We, the undersigned, are concerned citizens who urge the officials of both Southampton Town and Village to immediately ban any daily commercial operation that utilizes the “Picnic Area” at the west end of Meadow Lane" Many of these comments seem to miss this point entirely." Aug 25, 12 3:17 PM

Southampton Village Paves Way For Surf Camp

"Village Paves Way For Surf Camp". Wow if that doesn't say it all. It could also read; "Village legitimizes law breaking commercial enterprise in 11th hour backroom deal after pretending to listen to public's impassioned pleas to consider an alternative". This meeting was a real eye opener for any of us non-career politicians. Here's a brief history of how we got to this "amendment"
1) Surf camp operates for 9 years at various beaches despite there being a law in the village code against ANY business ventures that use the public beach as a money making venue.
2) Around 2010 said camp (FLYING POINT SURF SCHOOL) decides that they prefer to take their "circus" * to road F and G ,a.k.a. the Picnic Area.
* (actual quoted description taken from an honorable Town Trustee during a meeting in May of 2013 during which the Trustees were contemplating writing a law to pre-empt the anticipated need for camp to move once the public complained about the illegal practice of operating a large surf school on Village owned beaches via a petition signed by over 300 RESIDENTS begging the village or town to uphold enforcement of established law)
3) Camp operates for approximately 2 years ,7 Days a week(including holidays) at the picnic area drawing increasing crowds to an already crowded and sensitive area of the beach. Local surfers, concerned about the safety of all persons in the water beg instructors of surf school to show common courtesy regarding keeping the beginners from creating a hazard for the entire summer at the surf break. Instructors repeatedly reply with expletives such as "you don't own the @%$&ing beach and "if you got a problem, take it up with Shane" and even the occasional "You are lucky I'm working or else". 4) Every person with enough money to buy a 6000lb Escalade or similar giant S.U.V. realizes that they can speed onto the beach(so they don't get stuck) to watch their kids get pushed into waves in front of other people trying to enjoy a few well earned hours of leisure and exercise. This leads to an exponential explosion of cars, people and pampered poodles at the picnic area. The camp's popularity explodes with up to 100 "students" per day and their entourages. The water in front of road F starts to resemble a New York city municipal pool except that everyone has their own 10' long projectile with sharp plastic fins and nylon ropes attached to them bobbing in the surf along with children trying to wade in the whitewash. The access roads get clogged daily with giant chromed out S.U.Vs sporting 65psi in their 20" tires that get buried in the sand trying to see their little ones stand up on a propelled board for a few seconds.
5) Late June ,2012, finally fed up with the situation and the obvious peril that this sensitive and beloved picnic area is being faced with, two life long residents and ocean swimmers of the town initiate a petition drive gathering over 300 signatures urging the town or village to enforce the law of the land
6) The owner and instructors of the camp catch wind of the petition drive and target the petition organizers with verbal threats and malicious text messages and repeats of their "you don't own the beach" mantra. This continues to the point where Mr. Dykman has harassment charges filed against him with the Southampton Village Police after an evening of incessant text threats to one of the petition organizers. Mayor Epley comforts the victim of the harassment with a statement basically saying something to the effect of ; "the summer is almost over, maybe we will look into this next year"
7) Spring 2013- The Town Trustees hold a meeting to address amendment to the no commercial beach businesses law to specifically allow one surf camp to operate on a town beach. All Town Officials at the meeting unanimously agree to drop the proposed legislation because of obvious liabilities and the utter complexity, legality, and slippery slope it will lead to.
8) June 13,2013- Village Tustees Meeting. At this meeting, the statement is made by Mayor Epley that the surf camp is illegal and that if and when the operation of the camp resumes, it will need to adhere to as of yet undefined requirements. Mayor Epley furthermore states that the surf school will no longer be able to operate at the picnic area. Coincidentally the village had recently received a threatening letter from one of the homeowners adjacent to the picnic area threatening legal action in regard to the operation of the Surf School there.
9) July ?- July11 Flying Point Surf School conducts sessions (at the direction of?) at the Village owned beach located at Fowlers Lane. Curiously the surf school conducts its business to the east side of Fowlers Rd. which is Town of Southampton property and subsequently breaking the Town ordinance against same.
10) Village Board meeting Thursday, July 11,2013.- A "public comment hearing" is conducted under the auspices that an amendment to the law is being "considered" to allow one surf camp on village owned beaches. The room is split between two opposing factions. One group consists of all the paid employees of the school and their friends and a few members of the public who claim that Flying Point Surf School is "the best" and how it teaches "ocean swimming" and its instructors teach safety first. (who learns to swim in the ocean with a giant heavy board???) The other half of the room consists of a few persistent locals trying to keep up with what we think is the beginning of a process to figure out if and how the current law should be amended to allow for the safe and proper instruction of more surfers to share our love for the beach and the peace and harmony that defines surfing.
11) After many comments from each side, the meeting is about to be wrapped up when one attendee asks "will there be another public hearing to review the final draft of the amendment to the village code?" The answer to this question is "No, we don't have to." Another attendee asks, "will there be a competitive process to choose the operator of the proposed surf school?" the answer from the Board?... "No, we only have one applicant." Somebody on the board or the Village attorney continues on to make a statement to the effect of, "we need to do something fast, the season is almost over." Meeting adjourned.
12) Flying Point Surf School leaves the meeting clapping and hooting and hollering "Everyone to Barristers! Shane's buying!!!!!!!!!" The group of proponents utters as they walk out of village hall "this is all because those guys don't want us on their turf" among other disparaging remarks and slights and shifty gazes.
13) FRIDAY MORNING JULY 12, 2013-
FLYING POINT SURF SCHOOL SETS UP CLASSES A FEW YARDS TO THE WEST OF FOWLERS LANE (NOW ON VILLAGE PROPERTY!!)

My eyes are opened now! What am I seeing? I must be having a nightmare!
To be continued...... unfortunately." Jul 13, 13 1:42 PM

"Let's see how it plays out before we start complaining"? Problem is they have an 11 year track record that makes people wherever they go complain." Jul 13, 13 2:13 PM

Guess I missed New Years" Jul 13, 13 3:46 PM

UPDATE: Southampton Village Public Hearing Draws In Over 150 People

This is a reposted comment I wrote in 2013 . While lengthy, it clearly explains how we have arrived at this "breaking point". The current village administration has enabled and watched this play out to thier satifaction while claiming to be advocates for us locals.

Headline: Southampton Village Paves Way For Surf Camp
Jul 13, 13 "Village Paves Way For Surf Camp". Wow if that doesn't say it all. It could also read; "Village legitimizes law breaking commercial enterprise in 11th hour backroom deal after pretending to listen to public's impassioned pleas to consider an alternative". This meeting was a real eye opener for any of us non-career politicians. Here's a brief history of how we got to this "amendment"
1) Surf camp operates for 9 years at various beaches despite there being a law in the village code against ANY business ventures that use the public beach as a money making venue.
2) Around 2010 said camp (FLYING POINT SURF SCHOOL) decides that they prefer to take their "circus" * to road F and G ,a.k.a. the Picnic Area.
* (actual quoted description taken from an honorable Town Trustee during a meeting in May of 2013 during which the Trustees were contemplating writing a law to pre-empt the anticipated need for camp to move once the public complained about the illegal practice of operating a large surf school on Village owned beaches via a petition signed by over 300 RESIDENTS begging the village or town to uphold enforcement of established law)
3) Camp operates for approximately 2 years ,7 Days a week(including holidays) at the picnic area drawing increasing crowds to an already crowded and sensitive area of the beach. Local surfers, concerned about the safety of all persons in the water beg instructors of surf school to show common courtesy regarding keeping the beginners from creating a hazard for the entire summer at the surf break. Instructors repeatedly reply with expletives such as "you don't own the @%$&ing beach and "if you got a problem, take it up with Shane" and even the occasional "You are lucky I'm working or else". 4) Every person with enough money to buy a 6000lb Escalade or similar giant S.U.V. realizes that they can speed onto the beach(so they don't get stuck) to watch their kids get pushed into waves in front of other people trying to enjoy a few well earned hours of leisure and exercise. This leads to an exponential explosion of cars, people and pampered poodles at the picnic area. The camp's popularity explodes with up to 100 "students" per day and their entourages. The water in front of road F starts to resemble a New York city municipal pool except that everyone has their own 10' long projectile with sharp plastic fins and nylon ropes attached to them bobbing in the surf along with children trying to wade in the whitewash. The access roads get clogged daily with giant chromed out S.U.Vs sporting 65psi in their 20" tires that get buried in the sand trying to see their little ones stand up on a propelled board for a few seconds.
5) Late June ,2012, finally fed up with the situation and the obvious peril that this sensitive and beloved picnic area is being faced with, two life long residents and ocean swimmers of the town initiate a petition drive gathering over 300 signatures urging the town or village to enforce the law of the land
6) The owner and instructors of the camp catch wind of the petition drive and target the petition organizers with verbal threats and malicious text messages and repeats of their "you don't own the beach" mantra. This continues to the point where Mr. Dykman has harassment charges filed against him with the Southampton Village Police after an evening of incessant text threats to one of the petition organizers. Mayor Epley comforts the victim of the harassment with a statement basically saying something to the effect of ; "the summer is almost over, maybe we will look into this next year"
7) Spring 2013- The Town Trustees hold a meeting to address amendment to the no commercial beach businesses law to specifically allow one surf camp to operate on a town beach. All Town Officials at the meeting unanimously agree to drop the proposed legislation because of obvious liabilities and the utter complexity, legality, and slippery slope it will lead to.
8) June 13,2013- Village Tustees Meeting. At this meeting, the statement is made by Mayor Epley that the surf camp is illegal and that if and when the operation of the camp resumes, it will need to adhere to as of yet undefined requirements. Mayor Epley furthermore states that the surf school will no longer be able to operate at the picnic area. Coincidentally the village had recently received a threatening letter from one of the homeowners adjacent to the picnic area threatening legal action in regard to the operation of the Surf School there.
9) July ?- July11 Flying Point Surf School conducts sessions (at the direction of?) at the Village owned beach located at Fowlers Lane. Curiously the surf school conducts its business to the east side of Fowlers Rd. which is Town of Southampton property and subsequently breaking the Town ordinance against same.
10) Village Board meeting Thursday, July 11,2013.- A "public comment hearing" is conducted under the auspices that an amendment to the law is being "considered" to allow one surf camp on village owned beaches. The room is split between two opposing factions. One group consists of all the paid employees of the school and their friends and a few members of the public who claim that Flying Point Surf School is "the best" and how it teaches "ocean swimming" and its instructors teach safety first. (who learns to swim in the ocean with a giant heavy board???) The other half of the room consists of a few persistent locals trying to keep up with what we think is the beginning of a process to figure out if and how the current law should be amended to allow for the safe and proper instruction of more surfers to share our love for the beach and the peace and harmony that defines surfing.
11) After many comments from each side, the meeting is about to be wrapped up when one attendee asks "will there be another public hearing to review the final draft of the amendment to the village code?" The answer to this question is "No, we don't have to." Another attendee asks, "will there be a competitive process to choose the operator of the proposed surf school?" the answer from the Board?... "No, we only have one applicant." Somebody on the board or the Village attorney continues on to make a statement to the effect of, "we need to do something fast, the season is almost over." Meeting adjourned.
12) Flying Point Surf School leaves the meeting clapping and hooting and hollering "Everyone to Barristers! Shane's buying!!!!!!!!!" The group of proponents utters as they walk out of village hall "this is all because those guys don't want us on their turf" among other disparaging remarks and slights and shifty gazes.
13) FRIDAY MORNING JULY 12, 2013-
FLYING POINT SURF SCHOOL SETS UP CLASSES A FEW YARDS TO THE WEST OF FOWLERS LANE (NOW ON VILLAGE PROPERTY!!)

My eyes are opened now! What am I seeing? I must be having a nightmare!
To be continued...... unfortunately." May 15, 16 6:03 PM

UPDATE: Police Offer No Leads In Thursday's County Road 39 Fatality

Can someone explain to me why they couldn’t wash the roadway? I passed the site at 4pm and the road told me a very graphic story. RIP to the deceased. This road is a complete nightmare." Apr 5, 18 8:55 PM

Meadow Lane Property Owner Offers To Beautify Helicopter Pad Parking Lot

You are town resident no? We should be in control of our beach and the right-of-way to same. Bigfresh is right on. Slippery slope. Rose Hill was/is an abomination that should never be replicated." Oct 3, 19 8:41 AM

This parking lot was expanded to its current configuration in response to the overcrowding that was partially caused by the former administration allowing the law to be blatantly ignored. We fought to rectify that by trying to ban the surf schools that were overusing this area and popularizing into a new level.(The schools were bak this Summer) I don't recall there being any input from the public(or future homeowner(s)) at that time. Seems like a "you made your own bed" situation. Bigfresh and North Sea Citizen are speaking truth. This is a slippery slope. Rose Hill was / is an abomination that should never be replicated. " Oct 3, 19 8:50 AM