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Fred Thiele backs gay marriage bill

Fred, I applaud you for this decision. It's funny to read the comments from "Shout ot loud", "PrivateerMatt", "free2" and "INS". The sentiments they express on these boards are exactly why the Republicans have lost so much support over the last decade. Republicans are associated with bigotry and these sort of comments strengthen that association. It's also funny that people like "Shout ot loud", "PrivateerMatt", "free2" and "INS" kick and scream about government interference when it comes to guns or religion, yet they want the government to interfere with marriage. " May 6, 09 9:14 AM

Money designated for affordable housing never moved; housing fund in the red

Bayview, what have you done for Southampton Town? Spewing your anger and vitriol in this forum doesn't count. Looking at your comments, you seem to enjoy taking shots at anyone and eveyone. These public servants you attack can't hide behind the cloak of anonymity that you abuse. I noticed that the few times Doug Penny has left comments in this forum he has the courage to put his name behind them. Why don't you? Is the view nice from the cheap seats? " May 7, 09 9:46 AM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

I found PBR's previous comments a little long winded, however, this last one is quite thought-provoking. I hope the self-purported "Juror #2" understands that the cloak of anonymity offered by this comment board is only skin deep. It's amazing what information can be gathered with a well-crafted subpoena and a semi-knowledgeable computer tech." Dec 15, 09 9:26 PM

maryb123 and littleplains, I don't think any of the posts on here regarding Juror #2 have questioned her right to speak her mind and share her opinions. Rather, there is obviously some speculation as to whether "Juror #2" had visited this forum during the trial. While she may not be "bound by an oath of silence", as maryb123 put it, she certainly was bound by an obligation to follow the Court's instructions while she was a juror. If she had been reading this forum during the trial, let alone making posts under a different name, she should be concerned as it would be blatant misconduct.

Just to be clear, I'm not suggesting that it would necessarily provide a basis for a successful appeal and I hope that it does not. In my opinion, the proper verdict was reached and I applaud the jury for what was certainly a difficult task. While I don't believe Mr. Oddone intended to kill, the jury was convinced that he intended serious physical injury and they certainly had a basis for that conclusion. My thoughts and prayers continue to be with the entire Reister family and I was particularly struck throughout this ordeal with the grace and fortidute demonstrated by Stacey Reister." Dec 16, 09 9:00 AM

Publius, you state in your above comment that jurors should be free to read about the case they are deliberating on in papers and blogs. You suggest that the prohibition against doing this is born from "judicial paternalism". I think you are missing the real basis for the rule. If jurors were free to read newspaper accounts about the case they were hearing, wouldn't it eviscerate the rules of evidence. For example, this newspaper reported on Oddone's prior bad acts, however, the Judge ruled that they were not admissible. If the jurors read about Oddone's bad acts in this paper, the Judge's ruling is worthless. A "disregard" instruction would not cure the problem becuase you can't un-ring a bell." Dec 16, 09 10:15 AM

Publius, let me lay it out for you as clear as I can. The Southampton Press reported the following in an article published on Sept. 30th entitled "Club members offer $1 million for Oddone bail; trial nears start": “The judge, however, disallowed discussion of Mr. Oddone twice violating his probation—once for receiving a summons for unlicensed operation of a motor vehicle, a misdemeanor, and again for moving to Long Island when he transferred colleges in 2005—as well as his arrest in 2005 for destruction of property when he threw several tables and chairs off a patio at a bar and an incident in which Mr. Oddone was accused of striking another man with a beer bottle while Mr. Oddone was working as a bouncer in a bar”. Are you saying that the introduction of that evidence, throwing tables and chairs off a patio at a bar and being accused of striking another man with a beer bottle, would not have made any difference to the jury? Are you saying that it would be perfectly ok for a juror to read this in the paper even though the judge ruled it was inadmissible? Please explain your position as to why years of jurisprudence should be tossed out the window." Dec 16, 09 2:14 PM

Publius, in my experience, jurors, as a whole, take their responsibility seriously and try to do a good job. Unfortunately, trying hard does not always translate into following instructions. In that regard, you have more faith in the average juror than I do. Whether or not Oddone's furniture tossing and bottle breaking incidents should have been admissible is a separate argument altogether. However, if you think that reading about those incidents in this paper would not have made a difference to this jury, than we are in total disagreement. I think it would have absolutely made a difference. That's why Merrifield immediately informed the jury about those incidents afterward, to make them more comfortable with their verdict. If the Judge ruled that this information was inadmissible and if the law gives any credence to that ruling, then the jury must be instructed not to read papers and blogs during the trial, period." Dec 16, 09 3:25 PM

This one did above: "He will be sentenced by County Court Judge C. Randall Hinrichs on February 9"" Dec 17, 09 8:48 AM

Broderick to star in Hamptons-based sitcom

Skylur44 & Blue Sky: I believe it was determined that Mr. Broderick had not been drinking that day. Certainly a tragedy but an accident nonetheless. The Gallagher and Doherty families forgave Mr. Broderick and he did meet with them. Don't you think they are better equipped to judge this man than you?" Feb 3, 10 8:39 AM

Skylur44: You certainly implied that it wasn't an accident, in fact, you stated: "I think of the 2 women who died AS A RESULT OF HIS DRUNK DRIVING" What is your source for Mr. Broderick being drunk? What is your source for his attitude being "very cavalier"? " Feb 3, 10 12:45 PM

Westhampton Beach detective suspended, faces disciplinary hearing

The story states that the mayor called it a "personnel" not "personal" matter. Typically, characterizing something as a "personnel matter" allows avoidance of open government laws. " May 18, 10 2:22 PM

Frank, wow, calm down. My point is that characterizing something as a "personnel matter" allows council to discuss the matter in an executive session rather than during an open meeting. I believe that you will find this in the New York "Open Meetings Law". It has nothing to do with NYS Labor Law. But, please, Frank, enlighten us." May 20, 10 12:07 PM

Frank, regarding my comment above, my point was that characterizing something as a "personnel matter" allows council to discuss the matter in an executive session rather than during an open meeting. I believe that you will find this in the New York "Open Meetings Law". It has nothing to do with NYS Labor Law. But, please, Frank, enlighten us." May 21, 10 10:27 PM

Judge: Tape of Linda Kabot’s DWI arrest will be admissible during her October trial

PrivateerMatt: Not too shabby yourself there Matt. You both need to find a hobby." Aug 6, 10 11:17 PM

Lawsuit Targets One Of Region's Oldest Farm Families

I'd be interested to hear more about Petrello's "help" with the White's estate planning and to what extent the White's could be characterized as "clients" of Petrello. An attorney entering into a contract with a client faces more scrutiny then an attorney entering into a conract with a non-client." Oct 21, 10 2:07 PM

Is this simply a case of seller's remorse?" Oct 21, 10 4:28 PM

Jury Verdict In Kabot Case: Not Guilty Of DWI

In a September 29, 2009 article on this website ("Attorney: Linda Kabot will be vindicated"), the Press wrote: "On Tuesday afternoon, Ms. Throne-Holst said someone did call her early in the morning on September 7 with the news of Ms. Kabot’s arrest, but it was not a police officer. Ms. Throne-Holst would not say who called her or what time she received the call." Either a misquote or Ms. Throne-Holst was not forthcoming. " Feb 3, 11 6:00 PM

oops, I see BruceB has already pointed this out above" Feb 3, 11 6:02 PM

A Keen Eye On Arab Revolutions

For what it's worth, I tend to value Mr. Dorph's reasoned assessment which is based on first-hand experience far greater than RealtyFirst's rant. RealtyFirst, where does your expertise on the Muslim Brotherhood stem from...the internet?" Jul 13, 11 9:18 AM

State Police: Wrong-Way Driver Was Intoxicated

Has the Southampton Press made any inquiries as to where Mr. Riley was prior to the crash? A restaurant? A private party? I'm not suggesting that the blame does not fall squarely on Mr. Riley's shoulders...it certainly does. Just wondering if there's another angle to this story. As Mr. Riley was from Easthampton, it's logical to assume that he was drinking around other people while in the Westhampton area. Seems to me it would be hard to go unnoticed at that level of intoxication. " Jan 18, 12 2:14 PM

That's what I was getting at. To the extent someone over-served Mr. Riley or allowed him to get behind the wheel, that someone would certainly have some responsibility and potentail liability. I just wanted to be clear that to the extent someone else shares the blame, it does not abdicate Mr. Riley's ultimate responsibilty here.
" Jan 18, 12 4:55 PM

Altschuler Challenges Bishop To Debate On Health Care

RealtyFirst, please. Your dig at progressnow for not "addressing[ing] the issue" is laughable. The subject of this story is Randy Altschuler and progressnow voiced her objection to his role in outsourcing jobs. Your response is to point out that an advisor to the President, again, an ADVISOR to the President, also outsourced jobs. Talk about dodging the issue. Let's get back to Altschuler, is his outsourcing acceptable to you?" Mar 28, 12 4:23 PM

Police Say 30-Year-Old Hispanic Man Is Being Sought In Fatal Hit-And-Run; Name Still Not Released

The New York Post reports that the "Zaro, 58, was the last person to hear from the suspect, who called his boss after crash." Post also reports that "The unnamed suspect's rap sheet includes two charges for driving without a license on Long Island - one in 2006 in Holbrook, and another for aggravated unlicensed operation in 2010 in Ridge, a source told the Post."" Jul 13, 12 12:11 PM

UPDATE: Suffolk County Crime Stoppers Offers Up To $5,000 Reward For Information Leading To Arrest Of Hit-And-Run Suspect

Other than the fear of some sort of vigilantism (well-founded or not), has anyone offered a decent rationale for witholding the photo and identity as soon as the police acquired it?
" Jul 20, 12 4:35 PM