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Board Members Say Female Officers Were Not Discriminated Against

What facts are you basing your statements on "Chief wislson was never qualified to be the Chief of the Southampton Town Department" & . "the Village dpartment, a force that is the laughing stock of ploice departments around the country."
Based on past 27east articles it appears that Chief Wilson was largely responsible for cleaning out corruption is the village police and was exposing corruption in the town police. There seems to have been a lot of resistance to the exposure in the town police. As PBR says, "Question authority, and then see who gripes the most?"" Mar 12, 13 11:28 AM

Again, where are the facts supporting your argument. According to this article the decision was made prior to Pearce becoming chief and carried on by him (if he had input into this decision prior we do not know).
No facts were laid out as to who was most qualified but as you see below the town erred in treating one sex differently than another which is discrimination. Also, based on facts published on this site Nuzzi, Scalera, Malone, Pearce and the SOA have very questionable credibility.

If you are aware of something we are not please speak.

"Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said that she and Councilwoman Bridget Fleming had supported promoting Sgt. Costa to lieutenant, as Chief Wilson had submitted official requests asking them to do on at least two occasions. Ms. Throne-Holst said that the majority of the board—Town Board members Chris Nuzzi, Christine Scalera and Jim Malone—were strident in their repeated refusals to grant the promotion.

At one point, when the three other board members pushed forward a resolution to promote then-Lieutenant Robert Pearce to captain against the recommendation of Chief Wilson, Ms. Throne-Holst said she asked that Sgt. Costa be promoted at the same time, but that the majority again refused. Board members said that Sgt. Costa would have to be interviewed by the Town Board first, a step that was not taken with other department candidates for promotion. The interview never happened."" Mar 12, 13 11:38 AM

Lawsuit Reveals That Drug Charges Against Third Accused Felon Were Dropped In Wake Of Probe

"Kiernan, who was suspended between May and November, pleaded guilty in October to administrative charges of "incompetency or inefficiency" and "conduct which brings discredit upon the department" in a plea agreement with the town, according to the documents.
He admitted to four of 32 charges he had been facing, including failing to immediately report a prescription drug-addicted officer who was on the drug unit, and giving a false statement to internal affairs investigators, according to a Southampton administrative settlement agreement.
Kiernan lost 73 days of sick, vacation and personal time. He is back on the job as a lieutenant supervising the town's patrol officers.
Kiernan, who had overseen the Street Crime Unit since 2006, declined to comment, said his attorney Ray Perini, who noted Kiernan did not lose rank and said he was hoping to have those records expunged by the town board." - from another paper that rhymes with Tuesday (so I do not get removed)

He admitted to lying to internal affairs and covering up and his attorney "noted Kiernan did not lose rank and said he was hoping to have those records expunged by the town board" Really? Was Captain Tenaglia "expunging" when the shredders were going just days before Chief WIlson took over department? - "No Records Missing, Tenaglia Says" 5/17/12

Expunge - "to strike out, obliterate, or mark for deletion. 2. : to efface completely : destroy. 3. : to eliminate (as a memory) from one's consciousness" - merriam webster

I think too much has been "eliminated from one's consciousness" in this town and everyone should really start paying attention.
" Mar 13, 13 4:07 AM

UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs

look again" Mar 13, 13 7:31 AM

"Meanwhile, Lt. Kiernan, documents show, pleaded guilty in October 2012 following a nearly six-month suspension to four disciplinary charges Chief Wilson had filed against him, the most egregious of which involved lying to Suffolk County Police Internal Affairs investigators regarding his supervision of the unit. He also admitted to not acting right away upon receiving a complaint that an officer in his unit was addicted to painkillers. Pleading guilty to the four satisfied 28 remaining disciplinary charges, many of which dealt with the Street Crime Unit. He was forced to give up 73 days of sick, personal and vacation time as a penalty."

"Chief Pearce questioned what was claimed to have been found in the office. “I believe that the only thing that was found was some cocaine residue,” Chief Pearce said, adding that over-the-counter painkillers like Advil were found, too. The office, he said, was filled with prop drugs—used for teaching demonstrations.'

Chief Pearce and the Town Board reinstate LT Kiernan and put him in charge, unbelievable! He admitted to lying to internal affairs... he should not have a job! Chief Pearce was LT Kiernan's supervisor and was his SOA president, he had to have full knowledge of the facts (unless he is totally incompetent). The disgusting part is how many of our officials have there hands in this.

" Mar 13, 13 9:49 AM

Now, I understand why the SOA keeps a criminal attorney, Ray Perini, on retainer.
Once again, our police should ever be conducting themselves in a manner that they need a criminal attorney, not to mention have one on retainer for the whole union.

"Ray Perini, who is also the lawyer for the Southampton Town Police Superior Officers Association, the union for department brass." - Hearing Begins For Lieutenant 10/4/12" Mar 13, 13 11:25 AM

"A document obtained from a source this week revealed that Lt. Kiernan, following a nearly six-month suspension, had pleaded guilty in October 2012 to four disciplinary charges that then-Chief Wilson had filed against him—the most egregious of which involved lying to Suffolk County Police Internal Affairs investigators regarding his supervision of the unit. He also admitted to failing to act immediately upon receiving a complaint that an officer in his unit was addicted to painkillers and, in fact, allowed the officer to continue on active duty"

So the defense attorney's argument is that Lt Kiernan plead guilty to 4 charges but only admits to one? huh? and the one he admits to is assigning a driver to the drug addicted cop... oh, that makes me feel better! Did he have his gun while he was being chauffeured?

"Lt. Kiernan’s attorney, Mr. Perini, said the agreement stipulated that while a guilty plea was entered to the four disciplinary charges, the lieutenant was only admitting to failing to adequately document his assigning another officer to serve as driver for the officer in question while he was on duty."" Mar 13, 13 6:10 PM

Wow, this instills faith.

"Chief Pearce said that, to the best of his knowledge, there were no loose drugs."

"Lt. Kiernan on Monday said all the drugs and evidence were handled properly and did not present a public safety concern."

The pictures speak a thousand words!

"Lt. Kiernan, meanwhile, and his attorney, Ray Perini, attacked Mr. Wilson for conducting a “smear campaign” against the lieutenant."

Smear campaign? How is it a smear campaign - because the Chief, Lieutenant and the Town board were not successful in completing the coverup? If it was simply a smear campaign I do not believe that 2 felons would have been released from prison and other had charges dropped." Mar 13, 13 6:14 PM

Great idea, let's make it the first priority to find the person who is telling the truth!

Wonder why more people do not come forward.... " Mar 13, 13 6:15 PM

"Despite Lt. Kiernan’s acceptance of the agreement settling his disciplinary charges, Mr. Perini is now seeking to have the Town Board expunge Lt. Kiernan’s record. He said he gave a “full presentation” to the board on the “absence of evidence.”"

Expunge the record because of the absence of evidence? If there was no evidence and Lt Kiernan was innocent then why plead guilty and give up "73 days of sick, personal and vacation time as a penalty."
"Approximately $139,000 is budgeted for Lt. Kiernan’s base salary". - "Town Police Lieutenant Is Suspended" 5/3/12

that should equal about $40,000 - Seems like an admittance of guilt to me

This statement would make be believe that there was an agreement with the board that this would happen " Mar 13, 13 7:56 PM

I think it is safe to say that some resignations are in order
Chief Pearce
Lieutenant Kiernan
Chris Nuzzi
Christine Scalera
James Malone - "I have 3 words for you - Chief Robert Pearce" Looks like you will regret those 3 words

More needs to be revealed about ATH & Flemming, but resignations may be in order there. The board is complicit in this and even if the majority ruled I do not find enough on the record of them trying to protect the public interests.

Clean House!" Mar 13, 13 9:05 PM

"The Street Crime Unit was headed by the current police chief, Robert Pearce, when he was a lieutenant,"

Chief Pearce, you were the supervisor. Did you ever go into that office? Just looking at those pictures I see no appearance of professionalism. Again, you are either lying or incompetent.
" Mar 13, 13 9:20 PM

Top 10 quotes that don't instill faith in our officials

10. "Captain Tenaglia said. “There’s nothing to hide. There’s nothing going on. Southampton Town is a good police department. It’s an honest police department. It was then and it is now.” - No Records Missing, Tenaglia Says 5/17/12
Hmmm, something about hindsight being 20/20 but it seemed to be pretty clear then too

9. Southampton Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said this week, an intermediary delivered a message in December from “GOP leadership,” offering a deal in which Town Board members would agree to swap votes: the Republican board members would support the supervisor’s reappointment of then-Town Comptroller Tamara Wright, in exchange for Ms. Throne- Holst agreeing to oust the chief. - Who Sought To Oust Police Chief? 5/29/12
Just after the officer with a drug addiction came to light, what a quinky dink

8. Ms. Fleming said. “The disservice that this kind of political handling of this important position does to the town is real,” she said, adding that Chief Wilson is “doing a great job, given the obstacles.” The chief said he has found it difficult to run the department with “little to no support from a board majority.” -Who Sought To Oust Police Chief? 5/29/12
Glad he did a great job given the obstacles... ones next question would be, did you do anything to remedy the "disservice"?

7. "Last week, then-Lieutenant Robert Pearce—whom the Town Board promoted to captain on Monday— said that “everything” was turned over to Town Hall, and that he does not believe there were any missing documents. He could not explain exactly what was turned over, when or why". - PBA Wants Info On Police Records 3/15/12
What? Me? Who? Everything was turned over and nothing is missing, but I don't know what was turned over, when and by who. Stop asking me questions please!

6. “How is chasing down all of these rumors and innuendos and conspiracy theories productive to the morale of men and women who are putting their lives on the line on a daily basis?” Mr. Malone asked, stressing that he’s proud and grateful for the work of the officers. - -Who Sought To Oust Police Chief? 5/29/12
Yes, uncovering truth and corruption always brings down morale.

5. "Asked if there was any chance that sensitive police documents could have been changed, modified or sanitized in any way before they were moved to Town Hall, the captain (Tenaglia) replied, “No—not by me.” ... Sgt. Joyce, the department’s records retention officer in the Overton administration, said this week he has no comment on the issue before hanging up on a reporter." - No Records Missing, Tenaglia Says 5/17/12
As Tenaglia chuckles quietly at the reporters question thinking... I am smart enough not to shred them personally. That is why I have minions

4. "Chief Pearce said that, to the best of his knowledge, there were no loose drugs. “I believe that the only thing that was found was some cocaine residue,” he said this week, adding that over-the-counter painkillers like Advil were found, too. The office, he said, was filled with prop drugs—used for teaching demonstrations." - above article
ooops, I did not know that there were pictures that showed otherwise!

3. "Lt. Kiernan, meanwhile, and his attorney, Ray Perini, attacked Mr. Wilson for conducting a “smear campaign” against the lieutenant." yet...
"Lt. Kiernan, following a nearly six-month suspension, had pleaded guilty in October 2012 to four disciplinary charges that then-Chief Wilson had filed against him—the most egregious of which involved lying to Suffolk County Police Internal Affairs investigators regarding his supervision of the unit. He also admitted to failing to act immediately upon receiving a complaint that an officer in his unit was addicted to painkillers and, in fact, allowed the officer to continue on active duty." - above article
Who is conducting the smear campaign? Harder to point the finger when the facts are against you.


2. "Lt. Kiernan’s attorney, Mr. Perini, said the agreement stipulated that while a guilty plea was entered to the four disciplinary charges, the lieutenant was only admitting to failing to adequately document his assigning another officer to serve as driver for the officer in question while he was on duty." - above article
Oh, OK. That makes perfect sense. What else would you do when you find out one of your cops is so badly addicted to drugs that he can't drive.

and the #1 quote instilling faith in our town

1. “As to what we needed to do to address whatever issues there were that have led to this, I’ve got three words for you: Chief Robert Pearce,” Mr. Malone said. - above article
LMFAO - if this was in any other town it would be so much funnier.
" Mar 14, 13 11:03 AM

Wow Sig, that is an interesting way to look at it. Try thanking LT Kiernan for getting the addicted cop a chauffeur instead of sending him to rehab. Thank Lt Pearce for helping him cover it up and Thank Nuzzi, Scalera & Malone for continuing the saga by protecting their committeeman instead of fixing the problems of corruption.

The way you are looking at it a violent husband should sue a wife because her face broke his hand.

" Mar 14, 13 5:42 PM

Sig,
I would argue the contrary. The defense attorneys making these claims is what made the procedures necessary. Organizations, public or private, usually do not put procedures or policies in place until they have to. They do so in order to avoid liability and the liability usually comes out of case law.
Just remember that Nassau County's lab was shuttered for poor evidence handling procedures, criminals were released and charges on others were dropped.
The lawsuits are going to be abundant not solely because there was a cop that had a drug problem - the lack of supervision, cover up with a supervisor lying to internal affairs and all the way to the town board where little effort was made to remedy the situation.
When you see big money payouts in lawsuits it is generally in the punitive damages which are obviously meant to punish wrongdoing. That is were we as residents will get hurt and that blame is on the people that let the problem go.
If the problem was adressed when it first presented itself the story would be done with very little damage. Hiding it, even now does nothing but make it worse... Our government and it's officials should never conduct themselves in a manner in which they have to lie to anyone." Mar 15, 13 6:24 PM

It has been 11 days since the original article and 5 days since the update when our officials were caught in lies/denials.

I am with PBR - Chief Pearce and the Town Board should be speaking up and addressing these issues. Are they are not speaking because they can not answer the questions honestly without incriminating themselves?

The only way to regain the publics trust is for an outside agency to step in and the facts must be publicly aired - anything short of that and you are asking for people to place faith were is was lost." Mar 18, 13 10:44 AM

I agree that those responsible should be held accountable, no more no less." Mar 19, 13 8:50 PM

Hey JM, glad I have a fan but why would I have gone to Atlanta?" Mar 19, 13 10:12 PM

Drugs, Money May Be Missing From Southampton Town Police Headquarters

Should we really be surprised that chickens go missing when the fox is watching the hen house?
“With concern to my officer, the problem that I have is that other people have access to that room,” Officer O’Flaherty said, adding that the chief and any of the department’s lieutenants could access the property room at any time on their own. “That one officer has been down there for four years, handled thousands of pieces of evidence—and the one thing that is missing is this? That seems suspicious.”

"Southampton Town Police Chief Robert Pearce said this week that he has launched an internal investigation into how his predecessor, former Police Chief William Wilson Jr., shuttered the now defunct Street Crime Unit." ... “We’re looking into how that office was mothballed,” Chief Pearce said."

That is too funny - now he wants to investigate something. Not when a cop was addicted to drugs, suspects dying in custody, his people lying to internal affairs. Hey Chief Pearce, maybe if you did your job as a supervisor before the unit would not be mothballed and the town might not be open to millions of dollars in liability.

If a Federal or State agency does not come in to investigate Southampton Police and Town Board, then I do not see how it can be saved. This is way too much.

“As to what we needed to do to address whatever issues there were that have led to this, I’ve got three words for you: Chief Robert Pearce,” Mr. Malone said - enough said, sigh" Mar 20, 13 2:07 PM

"Following Mr. Bradway’s arrest, Police Officer Eric Sickles told then-Sergeant James Kiernan, the supervisor of the Town Police’s now-defunct Street Crime Unit, that he believed Mr. Bradway may have swallowed some cocaine. Sgt. Kiernan ordered Mr. Bradway to be brought to police headquarters in Hampton Bays, the lawsuit states. Sgt. Kiernan processed the arrest and recalled that Mr. Bradway, after initially acting normal, began to provide inconsistent answers, prompting Sgt. Kiernan to transport him to the hospital, it notes. He testified that it took Officer Sickles “less than 20 minutes” to return to headquarters to take Mr. Bradway to the hospital. Sgt. Kiernan said Mr. Bradway initially refused to go to the hospital. Mr. Bradway was admitted to Peconic Bay Medical Center in Riverhead shortly after noon that day and was pronounced dead there about seven hours later. He had told hospital staffers said he swallowed between 4 and 5 grams of cocaine, according to the lawsuit." from "Town Settles For $70,000" published 5/17/12" Mar 20, 13 4:15 PM

Suicide is what you interpret? Interesting perspective to say the least.

Though Bradway was most likely ingesting the drugs to prevent more evidence being used against him the police have a legal AND moral obligation to safeguard the people in their custody (no matter how bad they think the people are) I am sure there are procedures in place that cover this type of incident, which likely to be like anything else in this litigious society - Get medical treatment. Bradway may have died even if he was brought straight to the hospital, but at least there is one less thing that could be singled out as potential wrongdoing.

The statements above are those of Officer Sickles & Lt Kiernan, a drug addicted cop and admitted liar. One could speculate that this may be a sanitized version to save themselves. Maybe or maybe not, but the problem is now their integrity will forever be in question.
" Mar 20, 13 5:42 PM

They are in denial and hoping this blows over by November." Mar 20, 13 11:20 PM

"Chief Pearce could not be reached for comment on the allegation of the missing evidence on Wednesday morning. But in an interview on Tuesday—before the source had provided information about the missing evidence—he had noted that the evidence “could be in a number of spots,” but did not offer specifics. Asked if it was in the property room, he declined to comment, citing his investigation."

Let's hit the replay for similar responses,
"Last week, then-Lieutenant Robert Pearce—whom the Town Board promoted to captain on Monday— said that “everything” was turned over to Town Hall, and that he does not believe there were any missing documents. He could not explain exactly what was turned over, when or why". - PBA Wants Info On Police Records 3/15/12

"Chief Pearce said that, to the best of his knowledge, there were no loose drugs. “I believe that the only thing that was found was some cocaine residue,” he said this week, adding that over-the-counter painkillers like Advil were found, too. The office, he said, was filled with prop drugs—used for teaching demonstrations." - "UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs" 3/13/13

Chief Pearce "rejected the idea that there has been a pattern of sexual discrimination within the department during his tenure. “I’m sure this will go its normal course,” the chief said of the complaints."" - "Female Southampton Town Police Officers File Sexual Discrimination Claims" 2/20/13
- yet his prior boss got sensitivity training -
"Officer Drew confirmed this week that there were at least three sepa- rate female officers who had come to the PBA with complaints about the chief ’s conduct, and that she had personally witnessed one of the incidents.
She characterized the nature of the complaints as primarily intimidation and “stalking,” saying the chief was driving by and checking up on female police officers several times in one night during a midnight shift, following female officers on patrol, and showing up at the officers’ calls unannounced." - "Chief Gets Sensitivity Class" 4/27/06

Hmmm, everything is always ok but he can never offer specifics. Is that because he is making up answers?

“There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”
― George W. Bush
" Mar 20, 13 11:39 PM

The only apparent change in decades was Chief Wilson. Once he started cleaning up the house they ran him out of dodge" Mar 20, 13 11:43 PM

Kabot Says She Wants To Run For Southampton Town Supervisor Again

"Armstrong, a veteran Southampton Town cop who was accused of giving false testimony in court last year and faced 13 separate charges of misconduct from the police chief, will retire on November 1, halting the disciplinary action against him and leaving unanswered the question of whether or not he lied on the stand."
"“Even if he was found guilty of the charge, I still don’t think it would be fair,” Mr. Suskind said this week. “This is a guy who worked for more than 28 years, has an exemplary record. He may have done something stupid and self-serving, and there’s not even any agreement of guilt. But he wasn’t beating people up, or putting lives in general in danger, or taking bribes.” Both Mr. Suskind and Town Councilwoman Linda Kabot said this week that the lieutenant’s work in a vehicle and traffic capacity had been extremely well done, and Ms. Kabot proposed this week to keep him on as a part- time civilian vehicle and traffic consultant.
But the supervisor said this week that he would in no way support such an arrangement.
“I think that sends the wrong message to the public, especially in light of our commitment to uphold the highest ethical standard in government,” Mr. Heaney said. “[Lt. Armstrong] would be wise to go off and enjoy his retirement, and we would not be wise to recast his role given his decision.”" - Accused Cop Opts To Retire 10/20/05

The culture of corruption in Southampton Police continues to this day and she wanted to keep a perjuring cop on. DWI aside, this speaks volumes on her judgement." Mar 21, 13 1:02 AM

UPDATE: Sickles Returns To Duty; PBA Blasts Board Members, GOP For Making Him A 'Scapegoat'

"Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst congratulated Officer Sickles in the hallway after the vote. “This is how it should be,” she said to him. “This shouldn’t have happened the way it did.”" - Then how should it have happened and why did it happen this way?

"Other members of the Town Board were not available for comment following the vote." - The 3 amigos again

"Town Councilwoman Bridget Fleming said she though the settlement was a fair one. “I’m happy to be putting this chapter behind us,” she added."

This chapter might be put to an end but it better be just the opening of the book. Everything needs to be aired out if the public is ever expected to trust this town again.

as PBR says, "Get them all under oath!"
" Mar 21, 13 6:08 PM

I say again that the town board members and police that were involved in any cover up should personally be open to civil liability and share the burden that the taxpayers will have. That may discourage this type of behavior in the future." Mar 21, 13 10:11 PM

From all of the articles I read, Sickles addiction seemed to be a factor in a considerable string of problems that lead to the invalidating of the arrests. It was said that evidence handling and credibility issues were a problem too. So there was missing evidence, Kiernan admitted to lying to Internal Affairs as well as covering up Sickles addiction. I think reasonable doubt can add up in that place - and now all of those drugs disappear. I guess it is not a problem though, because Chief Pearce says that it was just residue and advil...

"The handling of the drugs and paraphernalia that was discovered violates both department policies and criminal law, Mr. Wilson said. All evidence in criminal cases must be logged and stored in locked locations designated for that use.

Mr. Wilson noted the two men released from prison last year after the D.A.’s office said issues had arisen related to the credibility of the Street Crime Unit officers involved in the case. While he stopped short of a direct connection, Mr. Wilson noted that “evidence procedural issues that came up during the internal investigation related to Street Crime” could have played a role in those cases, or the more than 100 under review by the D.A.’s office." - 'UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs' 3/13/13

" Mar 23, 13 1:11 PM

"A document obtained from a source this week revealed that Lt. Kiernan, following a nearly six-month suspension, had pleaded guilty in October 2012 to four disciplinary charges that then-Chief Wilson had filed against him—the most egregious of which involved lying to Suffolk County Police Internal Affairs investigators regarding his supervision of the unit. He also admitted to failing to act immediately upon receiving a complaint that an officer in his unit was addicted to painkillers and, in fact, allowed the officer to continue on active duty" - 'UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs' 3/13/13

There are fail safes and they worked. Lt. Kiernan admitted he is a liar and covered things up. " Mar 24, 13 8:17 AM

Maybe Kabot and Suskind will come back so we can get some more of the same when they were in kahoots with the other lying Southampton Police Lieutenant Armstrong.
"A three-month investigation has concluded that it is likely that Southampton Town Police Lieutenant William Armstrong lied during testimony in the trial of convicted Bridgehampton hit-and-run driver Leslie W. Jennemann, a spokesman for the Suffolk County district attorney’s office confirmed this week." - 'Armstrong Case to DA' 9/9/04

what is old is new again... cover up.

"“Even if he was found guilty of the charge, I still don’t think it would be fair,” Mr. Suskind said this week. “This is a guy who worked for more than 28 years, has an exemplary record. He may have done something stupid and self-serving, and there’s not even any agreement of guilt. But he wasn’t beating people up, or putting lives in general in danger, or taking bribes.” Both Mr. Suskind and Town Councilwoman Linda Kabot said this week that the lieutenant’s work in a vehicle and traffic capacity had been extremely well done, and Ms. Kabot proposed this week to keep him on as a part- time civilian vehicle and traffic consultant." - 'Accused Cop Opts To Retire' 10/20/05" Mar 24, 13 8:23 AM

Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface

"Southampton Town Police Chief Robert Pearce on Tuesday acknowledged that evidence" ... "He would not, however, provide any details." - No answers, how unusual for Chief Pearce

"Det. Gwinn said his union was displeased an outside agency did not conduct the audit, because many administrators accused of “mishandling” the Street Crime Unit and the supervision of Police Officer Eric Sickles, a former member of the unit who became addicted to prescription drugs, were the same ones conducting the investigation."

Many of my fellow posters have been saying that an outside agency should investigate Southampton Police. Even the PBA is saying that an outside agency should be involved... Hello, red flag!!! Will someone do something?!

" Mar 27, 13 7:52 PM

PBR - get my back on this,

Get them all under oath!" Mar 27, 13 7:53 PM

Drugs, Money May Be Missing From Southampton Town Police Headquarters

The town board is having public hearings on septic systems but there is only deafening silence about police corruption.

SOS - Save Our Southampton!" Mar 27, 13 8:09 PM

Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface

"Chief Pearce, who had been the division head overseeing the drug unit, Ray Perini, an attorney representing the union for department brass, and Lieutenant James Kiernan, the former unit’s commanding officer, all criticized the publishing of the photos last week."

Of course, because that is always a normal reaction to have when factual evidence id made public and you have nothing to hide.

As PBR says - ask questions and see who complains the most." Mar 27, 13 8:22 PM

That is also making the assumption that this is his first offense... maybe just the first one he was prosecuted for." Mar 27, 13 9:10 PM

Apparently it is just a "smear campaign" by Wilson. It seems like the facts are supporting Wilson and as long as the truth comes out I do not care what kind of campaign you call it. Let's call it a clean up the Cr@p in Southampton Campaign - Vote None of the Above (PBR)

" He accused Mr. Wilson of conducting a “smear campaign” targeting his client." - 'UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs' 3/13/13" Mar 27, 13 9:45 PM

UPDATE: Sickles Returns To Duty; PBA Blasts Board Members, GOP For Making Him A 'Scapegoat'

Sig, Blank, et al...
I think the real argument is not what the police are compensated. I think that we could all agree (even if they are highest paid in US) that if we were getting what we are paying for we would gladly pay it. That being a hard working force of professional police officers with integrity and the public interest in mind.

Before you all jump in, this is not a slander to most of the people that likely are good hard working cops... the problem is that the rotten apple spoils the barrel. It is time to get some bleach and clean out the barrel. If that does not happen how can we ever trust that all the fruit did not rot. " Mar 27, 13 11:13 PM

Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface

While I will not disagree that the disbanding of the STPD may become a necessity, what of the town board. The corruption and cover up appears to run long and deep. The dissolution of the entire town government may be necessary.
Just look to Nuzzi, Scalera, Malone in this. Kabot, Suskind with Armstrong and back further with Heaney, Cannuscio, Theile and Kenny. I see no light in sight." Mar 28, 13 12:22 AM

ATH is speaking but seems to be part of the problem too.

"Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said she did not know about a federal probe and said the town is trying to move forward.
"We have dealt with the matters internally. We have done an internal investigation that has led to some disciplinary results on two officers," she said. "That concludes it as far as we're concerned."" from another news outlet that rhymes with Tuesday... hope I do not get sensored

That concludes it, impudent as usual? That should conclude your term ATH." Mar 29, 13 1:45 AM

UPDATE: Sickles Returns To Duty; PBA Blasts Board Members, GOP For Making Him A 'Scapegoat'

I think help could even be construed as removing him from duty or disciplining him. Enabling him and giving him a driver does not... it only sends the message that what he was doing was ok.
Just like rewarding someone who lies to internal affairs keep his job and promotion and promoting someone who 2 times (captain and chief) who helped in cover up or was so incompetent that he had no idea. " Mar 29, 13 10:50 AM

Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface

“As to what we needed to do to address whatever issues there were that have led to this, I’ve got three words for you: Chief Robert Pearce,” Mr. Malone said. - 'UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs' 3/13/13" Mar 29, 13 10:54 AM

UPDATE: Hampton Bays Man Charged With Stealing Car, Leading Police On Chase Near Campus

Maybe he we turn up in the "Detectives Division temporary evidence closet " too! Stranger things have happened.
'Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface" 3/27/13" Mar 29, 13 11:18 AM

Maybe he will..." Mar 29, 13 11:18 AM

Auditors Say Southampton Police Department Compensation System Is Easily Abused

Who is to decide what a "significant" discrepancy is with our taxpayer money? According to prior articles it is at least $44,000 in 2011 alone and if the DA's are investigating it I would assume there is a belief of criminal activity, not just simple mistakes.

"Mr. Hoffmann said that the audit did not find evidence of significant discrepancies in the amount of money paid to officers from what they were rightfully due. He did not say if any discrepancies were found, or how large they were." - above article

"The lax controls on the accrual system apparently led to the town overpaying five retiring officers more than $44,000 in compensation for unused accrued time off last year." - '‘Troubling’ Practices Subject Of D.A.’s Probe' 11/29/12" Apr 1, 13 9:33 PM

“As to what we needed to do to address whatever issues there were that have led to this, I’ve got three words for you: Chief Robert Pearce,” Mr. Malone said. - 'UPDATE: Top Cops Dispute Charges That Street Crime Unit Office Was Strewn With Drugs' 3/13/13" Apr 1, 13 9:35 PM

And it looks more and more that the town board handed the chicken coop over to the fox. It appears that Chief Wilson kept uncovering corruption and the town board did everything they could to get rid of him. 27east, please keep following up as it seems the press is the only way we will find out the truth!

"The documents also included three felony charges and a misdemeanor charge prepared by former Chief William Wilson Jr. in 2012 against a police lieutenant, James Kiernan, for allegedly changing time sheets indicating days worked. The Suffolk District Attorney's office never executed the charges." But Suffolk district attorney spokesman Robert Clifford said, "The investigation is ongoing."" from a newspaper that rhymes with Tuesday 'Source: U.S. attorney probing Southampton police' dated 3/28/13" Apr 1, 13 9:50 PM

Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface

Hat, Blank, Chief, et al,
Can't we all just get along and agree that there are some real problems in Southampton police & town board? We need and deserve answers and we all need to keep asking questions!" Apr 2, 13 12:13 AM

Auditors Say Southampton Police Department Compensation System Is Easily Abused

What the, huh? Unwritten policies for pay? Aren't contracts supposed to lay out the conditions for employment and compensation... how the heck are there "unwritten policies", who makes them and what kind of attorney's do we have representing Southampton Town that would allow this to happen!

"Ms. Throne-Holst also acknowledged... The discrepancies the administrators found, she said, were due mainly to some unwritten but long understood policies for accruing sick days and other time off compensation with the department—casual policies that she said are fairly common throughout law enforcement agencies."
"When the auditors sat down with police department brass and went over specific instances, and had various policies explained to them, the numbers added up, she said—though she did not offer any specifics about what some of those circumstances were."

Right, lets sit down with the police brass who tracks there own time and tells us what the "unwritten policy" is on how they should be able to raid our piggy banks.

ATH, your statements are moronic and offer no specifics because you are full of it!
I am beginning to fear that this town government and police department are beyond salvation." Apr 3, 13 2:26 PM

Hey ATH, I forgot the remind you of this little "unwritten policy" the town has had for decades. Every time one of our elected officials support corruption or lie to the press our property taxes get cut in half.
No really, it's true. Scouts honor! Now get calculating because this current board alone gets us some great rebates!" Apr 3, 13 2:35 PM

Blue wall of silence aside, if it is really common then cite examples. I highly doubt that other municipalities pay out on "unwritten policies" without being forced to by litigation. I also highly doubt a court would enforce a verbal contract that only one party has knowledge of - ie the top brassholes that are taking us to the cleaners.

"The lax controls on the accrual system apparently led to the town overpaying five retiring officers more than $44,000 in compensation for unused accrued time off last year." - '‘Troubling’ Practices Subject Of D.A.’s Probe' 11/29/12

" Apr 3, 13 2:39 PM

Duh!
"Ms. Throne-Holst said. “Not that we’re suggesting that there was anything amiss, but it just seemed odd that we paid out something without being part and parcel to how it was calculated."" Apr 3, 13 2:52 PM

Items Missing From Southampton Town Police Property Room Resurface

Everything needs to be out on the table. All questions asked and answered. Only then can we, the residents, make informed decisions on who we put into office to make the determination on the future of our town and all departments." Apr 5, 13 1:27 AM

Auditors Say Southampton Police Department Compensation System Is Easily Abused

"The lax controls on the accrual system apparently led to the town overpaying five retiring officers more than $44,000 in compensation for unused accrued time off last year." - '‘Troubling’ Practices Subject Of D.A.’s Probe' 11/29/12" Apr 5, 13 12:31 PM

Southampton Supervisor Calls For Investigation Of Police Department

ATH, a hired gun with no enforcement power is not a truly independent party. Is this the only thing you could get the 3 amigos to agree to? Very weak, if you are truly concerned about the police department get on the phone to the DA, NY Attorney General or the US Attorney and tell them there is a problem. If you are not concerned enough to do that then don't waste our money.

"“All of these questions are swirling and I feel like no matter what we say we’re not going to reassure the public until we have a third-party, independent explanation,” Ms. Throne-Holst said"

but then again you board members like to waste our money...

"“[A board member] questioned my judgment in the paper a couple of weeks ago,” Mr. Wilson recalled of a comment by Councilman Jim Malone about a promotion he had suggested. “Well, they just paid an auditing firm $50,000 to tell them exactly what I told them in the first month I was on the job. But I guess anything that gets them to listen to reason is money well spent.”" - 'Auditors Say Southampton Police Department Compensation System Is Easily Abused' 4/1/13

another $60k report that the town board did not listen to.

"One of the studies referred to by Mr. Suskind is the Bratton report, a 2004 study commissioned by the Town Board that recommends the addition of another lieutenant to the police force. The proposed addition, which would give the force five lieutenants, was needed to provide sergeants more time to supervise squads in the field, according to the report." - "As to why he did not follow the recommendations of the Bratton report, a $60,000 study, Mr. Heaney said, “They didn’t have my 2006 operating budget in front of them when they made recommendations.”" - 'Suskind Questions Need For Police Commissioner' 10/6/05

Looks like the Board is using Bracewell& Guiianni for many things. I'm sure that it was not all covered in the $50k retainer.

"The board also agreed to retain the services of New York City law firm Bracewell & Giuliani to assist the town attorney’s office with the hearing procedure. A maximum of $50,000 will be spent on the proceedings" - 'Kiernan's Suspension Extended' 6/14/12

"t was also revealed this week that the town has hired a powerful New York City law firm, Bracewell & Giuliani to act as its legal counsel during the investigation by the DA’s office following its seizure in May of years of police department records that were being stored at Town Hall." - 'Town Suspends Another Drug Cop' 7/12/12

"Mr. Perini would not estimate what his legal fees to the union have been or would likely be for Lt. Kiernan’s defense. But he did say that he expects the fees would be less than those incurred by the town for hiring Sokoloff Stern to represent them at the hearing, or those by New York City firm Bracewell & Giuliani, which is representing the town in relation to the D.A.’s ongoing investigation into the Street Crime Unit and controversial removal of Police Department records from the department headquarters just before Chief Wilson’s taking over in May 2011" - 'Kiernan Asks For Help' 9/6/12" Apr 6, 13 10:01 AM

ATH, you are talking out of your pie hole. You are apparently surprised quite often by investigations into the town.

"Ms. Throne-Holst refuted recent reports that the U.S. Attorney’s office was conducting an investigation of the police department. If there is a federal investigation underway, it has not involved any contact with town employees or officials, she said." - above article

"Still, Town Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said Friday’s announcement by the D.A.’s office “came totally out of left field.”" - 'Two Are Released From Prison" 5/31/12

"Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said this week, adding that she was unaware the issue had become a focus of the D.A.’s investigations of the Town Police." - '‘Troubling’ Practices Subject Of D.A.’s Probe' 11/29/12

What do you know?

"The files are said to include internal investigation papers, but Ms. Scarlato said she was not at liberty to discuss their contents, other than that they are related to the police department. There are about seven boxes of them, she said.
“None of us know what they are,” Ms. Throne-Holst said." - 'Chief Tries, Fails To Get Documents' 5/3/12

"Ms. Throne-Holst said that while the settlement approved by the town this week puts to bed its disciplinary proceedings against Lt. Kiernan, she noted that the D.A.’s investigation is ongoing." - 'Lieutenant Is Headed Back To Work' 10/25/12

"Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst said that she did not wish to rehash the disagreements between the chief and some board members or internally on the board. “Our job as elected officials is to do what’s right for the town, for the police and for public safety,” she said. “I’m focusing on the future here. It’s been a difficult 18 months, and my job is to make sure we move forward positively.”" - 'Board Hands Reins To Acting Chief' 11/15/12

Yes, ATH your job is to do what is right for the town & public safety, ignoring problems and corruption because you do not want to "rehash" it is unacceptable. Impudently caving in because you think you may lose a vote is unacceptable. Your job as Town Supervisor is bigger than your political ambitions and you were elected to do an important job for the public." Apr 6, 13 10:41 AM

insert, McKayla Maroney, not impressed meme here. " Apr 6, 13 10:45 AM

I'm thinking that every town board member should be tested. I want some of what they are smoking." Apr 6, 13 10:46 AM

The majority of these things are manageable through the confidence we place in the department head,” he said. “If at some point in time we don’t feel we are comfortable about what we’ve got there, then you say, ‘We’re going to check your stuff.’ We’re not there at this point—not from my perspective.”"

Wow, what perspective do you have? From here is looks pretty bad and people with subpoena power should be reviewing this. Sounds like another "I have 3 words for you" statement.

This is why they want to hire a private firm to look into the corruption. So they do not have to release it to anyone.

"The results of the report issued by the firm have never been released by town officials despite numerous requests by The Press; the officials claim the substance of the report concerns delicate legal topics with regard to the potential for the town to be sued, and thus are not subject to open records laws."" Apr 9, 13 11:17 PM

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