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Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

That's some double talk you got going on. While Democrats wanted single payer, they knew it would never sell to the public, so they lied over and over again to the public to manage the outrage....you can keep your doctor.... premiums will decrease $3,000...

Obama lied every day...You seem OK with that? Frankly, I don't see Trump lying so much as him having IMO a boisterous communication style. YES, I'm ok with it. I'd rather have white lies, than hum dingers Obama style. " Sep 21, 17 9:23 PM

Please, Obama is untouchable.... always has been... always will be. " Sep 21, 17 9:45 PM

"BTW, is it truly Obama's fault the insurance companies chose not to follow the "Grandfather rules"?"

Why, Yes, it is his fault. It's Obama's signature legislation. But keeping your planis what Obama and a host of the water carriers promised. The "grandfather rules" was what he/they used to explain AFTER it came to be that people would NOT be keeping their plans. It was a useful lie at the time. " Sep 21, 17 9:57 PM

You must feel strongly about the core issue June B to post such a compelling and well written OP ED example. So let's get specific. What examples are you referring to supporting "the incredible number of unarmed black people being killed by the police" that would indicate a systemic problem? Hmmm? The example cited, Alton Sterling btw had a loaded handgun in his front pants pocket and a record of violence including other gun offenses. Please enlighten us.

" Sep 25, 17 9:55 PM

Actions that occur in the work place are certainly not covered. If it's done there then you at the mercy of your employer and/or the customers. " Sep 25, 17 10:01 PM

You mean the guy that refused to take a knee and told CK, "Look, I'll stand next to you. I gotta stand though. I gotta stand with my hand on my heart. That's just-- that's just what I do and where I'm from?'"

" Sep 25, 17 10:05 PM

Wouldn't taking a knee before the national anthem but standing when it was played be HIS constitutional right? How is that the wrong side of history?" Sep 25, 17 10:18 PM

In second grade I learned that standing during the national anthem was a show of respect." Sep 26, 17 7:55 AM

"That's the only basis for your unsubstantiatable conclusion that "FELONIES" have occurred."

Says you. Clapper flat out denied wiretaps and Comey denied while hedging. Now we know they existed. Why didn't either know? Clapper who was Obama’s director of national intelligence, issued a flat denial when asked if he knew of a FISA court order to wiretap the Trump campaign in 2016. Now he’s abruptly changing his story, admitting that Trump could have been recorded on wiretaps. Makes you wonder, don't it hat?? If not, it should.

" Sep 26, 17 3:37 PM

Businessman Trump was correct on that and as President is correcton this:

Sports fans should never condone players that do not stand proud for their National Anthem or their Country. NFL should change policy!
6:25 PM - Sep 24, 2017" Sep 26, 17 10:28 PM

And I bet you stood and held your hand over your heart when you said the Pledge of Allegiance." Sep 26, 17 11:01 PM

Princess Diner Workers Were Sexually Harassed, Threatened With Deportation, Advocacy Group Says

Fore you could not be more incorrect when you wrote - "...but merely overstaying a visa, which is how the majority of illegal immigrants came to be undocumented, is actually a civil violation, not a crime."

First, "merely" severely understates the severity of the illegal action. Overstaying a visa subjects the offender to not only civil penalties, but deportation and barred to returning - aka -gaining ANY legal status for years.

Second, MOST do in fact "sneak into the country" - the majority DO NOT come here by overstaying a visa. Gaining a visa is a arduous process that places the person under government scrutiny. Obtaining a visa would mean they declare themselves at an port of entry with intentions of work or other legitimate reason, MOST DO NOT do this when entering illegally. They ceither cross at a land border which generally does not require a visa, (but passport, border crossing card or trusted traveler document for frequent crossers) and misrepresent their intentions entering the US (another crime) or they enter without presenting themselves for inspection - also known as sneaking in between the ports of entry.

Have you seen the video of trains coming north from central american loaded with people on the roof tops? There is a reason why building a wall is such a hot button issue. Yes, overstays do happen, but its not the primary method used for being here illegally. " Sep 28, 17 9:35 AM

Again, you specifically reference illegals as using visas as being the primary mechanism... not so. Overstays is a problem, for sure. My knowledge is based on... um.... my profession. I'd suggest that neither you nor those not in the know have no idea how many enter through other means... for, there is no record of the entry... they snuck in. It is only through deportation interviews that you get a sense of the magnitude of the problem of those "sneaking in" and it far surpasses visa overstays. " Sep 28, 17 10:11 AM

"Biggest problem" is much different than the manner which you define it, "how the majority of illegal immigrants came to be undocumented".

I work with a government agency with three letters as it's acronym and its mission is rather in the know on the subject. Visa overstays is the "biggest problem" because there has been little effort to document and track outbound travel. Inbound is well documented and tracked. 'Biggest problem" means, we have no idea who leaves and who doesn't (think 9/11 hijackers), and it has nothing to do with "how the majority of illegal immigrants came to be undocumented".

Any other questions?" Sep 28, 17 10:51 AM

No arguing the facts.... but that's not what you originally wrote: "which is how the majority of illegal immigrants came to be undocumented."

You are referencing recent trends, and as I acknowledge both in numbers AND degree of problem, overstays ARE a problem. But here is a better indication of "how the majority of illegal immigrants came to be undocumented":

"Forty percent of people in this country, illegally, are overstaying visas."
— Marco Rubio on Wednesday, July 22nd, 2015 in an appearance on 'Fox & Friends' Mostly True - Politifact Florida
" Sep 28, 17 12:38 PM

I commend you!

But you do you realize we don't really know for certain and it's a really REALLY fuzzy number, right? Afterall, we really don't know how many entered illegally (because we didn't catch them) or even how many entered legally and overstayed (since there is currently no mechanism to track outbound exits against entry records (but a little bird tells me that is being resolved through tesing of biometric and facial recognition technology ;))." Sep 28, 17 1:29 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

Do you not recall how this all started and what Colin Kaepernick said about the flag and the national anthem?

"“I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

Now, you are saying what he did was a gesture of worship? LMFAO. " Sep 29, 17 1:36 PM

Sure, everyone has an opinion, and let me be the first to say, who gives a rats patootie what former Obama CIA Director John Brennan says on the issue. Let's not forget where it all started...

Colin Kaepernick - "I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."
" Oct 1, 17 9:30 PM

Deplorable even. " Oct 1, 17 9:36 PM

Please. " Oct 2, 17 8:19 AM

You mean, we shouldn't believe everything we read on the internet?? Since when??? Thanks Mr. Z, good to know. You failed to mention that after police named the suspect, the post misidentifying the shooter was deleted. " Oct 2, 17 9:51 PM

For example?" Oct 3, 17 10:02 AM

A specific example of an Muslim American who "does the shooting" where there was equal politicizing and "immediately propose a clampdown on immigration."

That's a rather broad stroke you've painted." Oct 3, 17 11:33 AM

I think the argument that there would be, or that it was used as an immediate clampdown on immigration, is pretty flimsy, especially given they were all citizens. Trump said on the campaign in a generic sense he would crackdown on terrorists, and I don't think any on those examples were used as impetus for the travel ban. The travel ban had absolutely nothing to do with shootings that had occurred in the US. But he DID comment on attacks in other countries in relation to the travel ban. Apples and oranges.

In fact Trump was criticized for his lack of specifics in the response when asked to respond to a question about how he would handle terrorist attacks in the country, two days after the San Bernardino, California massacre, which claimed 14 lives. Trump responded:

"You don't want to hear how I'd handle it," Trump said. "I would get myself in so much trouble with them, we are going to handle it so tough. And you know what we're going to do? We're going to get it stopped."

The mogul did not go into specifics, but he decried reports that concerns about the alleged shooters were not voiced due to political correctness.

"How about the person who knew what was going on said they didn't want to report them because they think it might be racial profiling, did you see that?" Trump said. "We have become so politically correct that we don't know what the hell we're doing."" Oct 3, 17 2:26 PM

The comment in 2015 was consistent with what he did when he became president. It was a travel ban from predominantly Islamic countries - the same countries Obama declared as high risk. The ban (temporary at that) was to do a deep dive on the screening practices from those countries. He confirmed shortly after the initial statement that the policy would not apply to current Muslims in the U.S. during a Fox News interview. But year, Trump had a valid point in 2015 even. " Oct 3, 17 8:17 PM

Written in 2012, lol. Fortunately the SCOTUS know even more and have consistently stated such. " Oct 3, 17 11:13 PM

I don't think Mets fan is extreme right wing (whatever that is) but you have it half correct. " Oct 4, 17 7:38 PM

The Second Amendment (Amendment II) to the United States Constitution protects the right of the people to keep and bear arms and was adopted on December 15, 1791, as part of the first ten amendments contained in the Bill of Rights.[1][2][3][4] The Supreme Court of the United States has ruled that the right belongs to individuals,[5][6] while also ruling that the right is not unlimited and does not prohibit all regulation of either firearms or similar devices.[7] State and local governments are limited to the same extent as the federal government from infringing this right per the incorporation of the Bill of Rights. Wiki
" Oct 4, 17 7:45 PM

Just another day on the job by the thin blue line oppressors and an individual subject to the law of the land. " Oct 4, 17 8:01 PM

I'll take my chances with the precedent of Cramer vs. the United States making Treason very difficult to prove... other than that Mr. Z, take it up with the Founding Fathers.

I'd suggest that IF we are defending against the Federal government, the Treason Clause is somewhat of a moot point. " Oct 4, 17 8:12 PM

I've got a pen and I've got a phone - and I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions that move the ball forward.

~ Barack Obama
" Oct 5, 17 7:41 AM

I guess we should clarify.... what could be deemed meaningful executive action. That wasn't. Background checks online and at gun shows were already in place by current laws at the time. I know, because I've done both. Sales through the hobbyist angle was clarified to indicate they MAY actually be “engaged in the business” of selling firearms if they operate an online gun store, pass out business cards or frequently sell guns in their original packaging. Whether the mental health funding or even increase in agents took place, who knows, it was intended to be part of budget negotiations. " Oct 5, 17 8:09 AM

I long for the day when mass murders of all persuasion and size horse (high in this case) used other methods to carry out their deranged acts. Ahhh... the good old days.

"Eight brothers and sisters aged from 18-months to 15 years old have been found stabbed to death in a house in Australia, prompting the nation’s leader Tony Abbott to lament that “these are trying days for our country”". 12/19/14 Telegraph:" Oct 5, 17 6:50 PM

Of course not, merely acknowledging the problem exists with other instruments in other countries. Acknowledging the common factor is human, are you? When there's a bombing we blame the bomber. When there's a drink driver, we blame the driver. When there is mass murder by knife, we blame the stabber. Why when there is a shooting, do we blame the gun?" Oct 5, 17 8:29 PM

I bet you both were kneeling when you typed that.

El Salvador has the highest murder rate at 108 per thousand. And?

And so there it is! It will not end until the second amendment is repealed and all guns are confiscated and banned. We've gone from meaningful addressing the evil that occurred in LV to banning all guns. it's the Leftist ultimate goal ideologuely driven by the same people who demonize the police and don't mind if Iran gets ICBMs. among so many other things. " Oct 5, 17 8:44 PM

What are you suggesting that in your opinion would be considered not "enabling"?" Oct 5, 17 8:48 PM

Sick!" Oct 5, 17 8:51 PM

Might I suggest Mr. Z. an ACOG scope on the old blunderbuss.

Let me ask you the same question Mr. Z, Do YOU own semi automatic, or automatic weapons?" Oct 5, 17 8:56 PM

I see. Besides misclassifying civilian arms (semi-auto) as military (full auto) you prefer to diminish the rights of others.

You know absolutely NOTHING about me nor much of America.. but the answer is an emphatic.... yes, I do need them for my protection. But whether I need them or not is inconsequential to the discussion for it is my right to keep and bear and it isn't up to you or any other Leftist Progressive who want to send us back to the middle ages. " Oct 5, 17 10:52 PM

LOL, incorrect. I would hope the decay of society would most definitely change whether it be carnage in Chicago or in Las Vegas. " Oct 6, 17 9:33 AM

You do realize you only need a pair of pants to create the same thing a bump stock can do, right?

Then what? Confiscation? Talk about a slippery slope in the land of the free and home of the brave. " Oct 6, 17 9:39 AM

The decay of society and legislative action for the sake of action are two different things entirely. The latter will have little impact no matter what is passed. The lunatic fringe will always find a way and the law abiding majority will pay the price." Oct 6, 17 9:45 AM

Incorrect on all counts and you guessed wrong Z. You see, those "fancy" yet inconvenient definitions are what's used to classify arms. It's the reason the Obama ATF approved certain add-ons. And no, in most states no reason is needed for concealed carry permits. Courts this week in fact, DC specifically, threw out the concealed carry ban as a result of multiple constitutional losses*.

As to why I "need" weapons in my home? First off, none of you f'n business. But I will say, some people have professions other than IT and garbage man and you should not judge the world only through your peep hole.

D. C. will not appeal concealed carry gun ruling to Supreme Court
By Ann E. Marimow and Peter Jamison October 5 at 5:29 PM

" Oct 6, 17 10:17 AM

You can not legislate crazy. Mass murder continues even in Australia. Sure, if you can even ban soda, but no one except diabetics will be drinking it.

Evidence-driven legislation will show both sides and it will be debated a million ways to Sunday. Gun homicides have declined over the past couple decades.

Like it or not the Second Amendment remains and that's not emotive, it's constitutional and there are probably over 300 million guns include over 60 million AR style semi-automatic.

Instead, we must focus on core societal values while improving safeguards to the degree constitutionally able, but understand that needless deaths are the price we pay for living in a free society and no degree of legislation will ever eliminate that.


" Oct 6, 17 11:35 AM

Fore, you're citing a case that is complicated and BOTH sides reference it as a win. The gun in question, a sawed off shotgun, had not been shown to be "ordinary military equipment" that could "contribute to the common defense. In reality, shotguns WERE used during WWI with 30,000 and 40,000 short-barreled pump-action shotguns were purchased by the US Ordnance Department and saw service in the trenches and for guarding German prisoners. Whether the SCOTUS were aware of that or even considered it, who knows. According to the case, gun rights advocates would say since AR style weapons are defined by some as "military style" (right Z) it supports the second amendment constitutional rights and interpret it to state that ownership of weapons for efficiency or preservation of a well-regulated militia unit of the present day is specifically protected. And round and round we go.

The decay in society and "focus on core societal values" looks like what we don't see in many inner cities . You can walk it back from there. Far FAR more gun deaths occur through other means than outlier events.

Mets fan, go home. You're fired. " Oct 6, 17 12:47 PM

You're missing the point. Ban bump stocks to your hearts content, you don't need the part to get the same end result of rapid fire. All you need is a pair of pants, literally, for example. The physical act of producing a product is the byproduct of human mental ingenuity, plain and simple. In other words, give me an altered firearm and in minutes I'll have removed the altered part and give you the same result as had the altered part still been on the gun. The point: people will figure out a way and deranged people will act on it, no matter what. If it's not guns, it will be some other means." Oct 6, 17 3:17 PM

I would suggest the core values of the shining example of Australia and the US are much different and it's been years in the making getting to the decay of society we have. Decay rght down to BLM, kneeling during the anthem. general respect let alone respect for authority, the sanctity of life, and so on. " Oct 6, 17 3:20 PM

"The kneeling was protesting police brutality. You made it about disrespecting the flag." Um, seems it was for a country and the flag it represents.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

Colin Kaepernick" Oct 8, 17 12:22 PM

"The kneeling was protesting police brutality. You made it about disrespecting the flag." Um, seems it was for a country and the flag it represents.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

Colin Kaepernick" Oct 8, 17 12:22 PM

"which would be the point of hardware restrictions: to reduce the amount of damage a mass murderer can commit, not to prevent it from happening at all."

I don't think you're getting the point at all. You can restrict hardware add-ons all day long. The capacity to bump fire exits even without the hardware devices, with just as much efficiency. If the lunatic didn't have BF devices, what occurred could still still take place. " Oct 8, 17 12:32 PM

So, you're saying the President shouldn't receive Secret Service Protection?

Obama is estimated to have cost tax payers $20,000 per hole.

So what's your point other than seething hatred?" Oct 8, 17 1:54 PM

To be rich is not what you have in your bank account but what you have in your heart." Oct 8, 17 2:34 PM

What I'm saying is the President is entitle to Secret Service protection and this is nothing new. By law, Presidents are prohibited from paying for their own protection.

"For you to mention President Obama-- into whose pocket went not a single cent of the cost to protect him'

To that I say, WTF are you talking about?

" Oct 8, 17 3:48 PM

"Of course a president is entitled to SS protection."

Hard stop! Everything after that is pure emotional conjecture. Everything in your above post, is damn near a melt down!! Poor snowflakes. Gonna be a long eight years.






" Oct 8, 17 6:37 PM

I love it when the Left gets beat at their own game. PR stunt or not, he's entitled to express his opinion too.... you know.

I guess only over payed disrespecting prima donna NFL players and the like can express their opinion.

I salute you Mr. Vice President!!" Oct 8, 17 9:47 PM

Speaking of losing your grip....ahhh....never mind. " Oct 9, 17 8:50 PM

Current mood toward Constitutional Rights: high" Oct 16, 17 10:52 AM

What does any of that mean? It's the same old argument. We don't want to confiscate, we want to restrict. Oh, and if some Leftist that wants to confiscate is elected, we'll "restrict" the supplies at the "local precincts" - how very Soviet bread line. And assuming you can get ammo from the after standing in the bread line, if you don't obey the severe restrictions, THEN we'll confiscate. What part of "WILL NOT BE INFRINGED" do you not understand? " Oct 16, 17 11:01 AM

The Second Amendment is not limited to guns; other forms of "arms" are in fact protected by the 2nd Amendment. However, none of our enumerated rights under the U.S. Constitution are "absolute" rights. The standard of legal review for a law that infringes on those rights is one that requires that such laws be the least-restrictive method to achieve a legitimate governmental purpose. And that's where we are today.

Ensuring the safety and security of the general population from people carrying or obtaining bazookas is a legitimate purpose, and placing licensing and other restrictions on who may obtain these items and how they can do so is considered to be a LEAST-RESTRICTIVE method. In fact, in the case of bazooka's for example, the denial of possession is likely also least-restrictive in the eyes of the law given the risk of the amount of damage that such weapons can cause." Oct 16, 17 11:14 AM

See post above on "absolute" rights and least-restrictive. " Oct 16, 17 11:16 AM

"if you think weapons on the scale of RPGs should be readily available for public consumption and destruction...that's just stupid."

That's NOT what I said. That's what you said. I stated RPGs ARE covered under the second amendment, but they are determined to not be absolute rights and are therefor subject to least-restrictive regulation. " Oct 16, 17 11:29 AM

Yes and no. All storms are different in how they impact the affected area. After Katrina for example, the method in which job growth figures were calculated by the BLS was changed. Effectively weighting and normalizing the figures to account for the storm.

Other storms like Sandy, was widely thought to have slowed U.S. job growth, fewer than 50,000* and far below the 171,000 created the previous month and generally a sign of a weak market. So no, Obama didn't weather the storms any better. Any growth was less than it should have been and that's NOT growth because it didn't even keep up with the number of people entering the labor market.

One might argue, the more severe the storm, the more growth you'll see in the future as rebuilding takes place. Stay tuned for a lot of growth!

*Job growth likely slowed by Superstorm Sandy, analysts say.By The Associated Press. December 07, 2012.

" Oct 16, 17 11:49 AM

Crimes are not acceptable nor should they be normal. That's for the violator to own. NOT the innocent.

Let's not forget the decision last week where DC will not appeal concealed carry gun ruling to Supreme Court. It was specifically not pursued fearing the loss at the Supreme Court would have wide spread concealed carry implications nationally. " Oct 16, 17 12:19 PM

Of course it does. The job statistics are done via surveys. When you can't get to a location, or contact business, or people.... you can't do.... anyone.... anyone?

Surveys!

Adjustments are usually done as numbers come available. We shall see. " Oct 16, 17 12:25 PM

Be careful what you ask for - redux... "evidence-based legislation."

The 2015 violent crime total was 0.7 percent lower than the 2011 level and 16.5 percent below the 2006 level according to FBI Uniform Crime Reporting. How many millions more guns do we have on the streets now than in 2006?
" Oct 16, 17 2:56 PM

Well foregone, I know that fits into a nice little emotional knee jerk reaction bundle for you, but by your own example, we're talking about evidence-based legislation that would restrict gun owner rights. Is mass murder not a violent crime? Does the evidence not potentially support a correlation to more guns and less violent crime? Even local84 injected a response other than mass murder." Oct 16, 17 3:23 PM

"Do you really want to compare gun deaths in places with less guns to gun deaths in places with more guns?"

Do you really want to compare gun deaths in places with less guns to gun deaths in places with more guns and have a Constitution that gives people the right to own them? First up, I submit the USA.... you're up!" Oct 16, 17 6:54 PM

4.2 percent unemployment, first time SEVENTEEN years. " Oct 16, 17 6:58 PM

SEVENTEEN YEARS!!!

Don't forget Obama's record number leaving the workforce... DOH!" Oct 16, 17 9:58 PM

Um.... they're criminals. They know a guy who knows a guy. If they want something bad enough.... they'll get it. It's what criminals do. And the police who the Right supports and the Left despises, will tell you that.

" Oct 16, 17 10:03 PM

"Machine guns are legal to buy in Nevada"... they are legal to buy and possess in almost every state, if you want to pay the fees and taxes for a Class III license. And Mets fan, how you are suggesting this, like you can walk into walmart and simply buy one, is an out right LIE! You've been schooled on this before, so it must be lying intentional. " Oct 17, 17 7:57 AM

And Roof committed his despicable act with a handgun which he owned for months before. But just to keep things real, Roof probably should not have been sold the gun based on his recent drug arrest. The store can always deny the sale even if the background check doesn't come back within three days. Big stores like Walmart do it to avoid public criticism. Small stores don't have the flexibility in their bottom line, and every sale counts and that's what occurred. " Oct 17, 17 8:54 AM

"Machine guns are legal to buy in Nevada"

In this example, you've singled out Nevada, implying that they are somehow above federal law. This combined with previous statements that you can buy automatic weapons at Walmart is a pattern... of LIES.

Good to go? HAHA... automatic weapons go for 15-20 thousand dollars and there is a tax/fee each year. What do automatic weapons have to do with Paddock? You see, your correlation of Nevada to Paddock again implies and confirms your original statement is at was intended.... A LIE... that Machine guns are legal to buy in Nevada. Paddock did not have automaticuweapons. " Oct 17, 17 2:31 PM

Here we go (again), wanting to take guns away from police. Now where have we heard those opinions before? And the slippery slope gets more greased and steep.

The willful ignorance is astounding. Fortunately, your opinion doesn't mean squat and no one is seeking your approval. " Oct 18, 17 8:21 PM

HAHAHA... large dog AND firearms here and always will!

And FWIW, my firearms have NEVER killed a thing and they're rather peaceful on their own volition. Now, my dog ripped the head off a squirrel once. Please don't ban or confiscate my dog. " Oct 18, 17 8:27 PM

There go the "progressives" again. Yeah, and PRESIDENT Eisenhower deepened the cold war as a result.

That worked out well. " Oct 18, 17 9:51 PM

Donate it to the NRA or similar organization for education and awareness classes or turned over to local police to be responsibly disposed of. Further, some states have laws in place (NY for example via the SAFE Act) requiring certain actions like mandatory inventory of both firearms and accessories and mandatory reporting to police before they can be transferred. State law allows "indiscriminate" (please) transfer to immediate family. If they have a criminal history, they are ineligible. NOTHING is indiscriminate about it, that's part of responsible gun ownership.

" Oct 19, 17 8:08 AM

I see.

No relevant lucid response noted. " Oct 19, 17 9:43 AM

Mr. Z., since testimony that showed budget issues had nothing to do with security deficiencies in Benghazi was pointed out to you in May, one can only assume that repeated spewing of the same nonsense is an intentional LIE. The security decisions made and that were in place were on the ground operational decisions born by state department incompetence. Security upgrades were denied by State Department Officials.

It was further shown that no military response could have gotten to the site in time to stop the final assault that caused the deaths. " Oct 19, 17 10:04 AM

Mf, in review of the 2nd amendment, "need" is not addressed, let alone, WTF is the definition of a "stock pile"?

Here's a riddle for you Mf: Over 10 years, I buy 1000 rounds each year for target shooting. Do I or do I not have a "stock pile"?
" Oct 19, 17 2:09 PM

"what are you worried about".... this Mf...

People like YOU and Nancy Pelosi whose veiled discussion is really cover for total confiscation. You've even (re?)introduced guns being taken away from police.

"I would think trying to limit mass murder would be something you would be interested in, maybe I'm wrong, maybe you don't care who and how many get killed."

Mindless narrative you're spewing aside, sure I do. With some 52 million abortions, yeah, let's talk mass murder and who doesn't care. Maybe I'M wrong.

" Oct 20, 17 7:25 AM

Yeah, Vietnam and Korea were just peachy, and that pesky national debt thing just keeps on giving." Oct 20, 17 7:34 AM

Tell it to those who think the US is an oppressive, racist, bastion of deplorables in need of transformation. Mr. Z himself routinely argues this isn't the greatest country on earth. " Oct 20, 17 9:05 AM

"He easily assembled an arsenal, and skillfully navigated the law by spacing out his purchases, which suggests our current regime of regulations is insufficient to stop mass murder."

Deep disappointing sigh of frustration.... reminding you that Dylan Roof killed nine people with a hand gun and Adam Lanza never even bought a gun and mass murder is an act by the deranged using instruments of their choosing be it gun, car, knife or pick one. " Oct 20, 17 10:00 AM

Oh geez. And this is why Trump was elected. That very mentality. Yeah, well, the issue racism is certainly NOT systemic (just like mass shootings) and oppression is simply the battle cry of the social justice warriors. And stereotypically think what you will about your fellow citizenry, I'd suggest it's more a reflection on you, than them. " Oct 20, 17 10:11 AM

I rest my case. 1960/70's.... institutional oppression and racism today. Nope!

Down stream effects? Good Lord what an eternal victimhood mentality. Fine, take the 40 acres and a mule and be done with it." Oct 20, 17 2:37 PM

Because it involves former and at the time current government officials. At best, even the illusion of impropriety is unethical. At worst, it was pay for play with Bill earning a cool $500,000, requesting and meeting with Russian officials and opening up other lines for the Clinton Foundation while his very lovely Secretary of State wife had influence over the controversial uranium deal where there is now evidence that Russian nuclear officials were engaged in a massive bribery scheme." Oct 23, 17 9:54 AM

I believe SlimeAlive's reference was to the less-than-esteemed D-CA Maxine Water's threats. You asked for an example of a Democrat, you got it in Maxine Waters. " Oct 23, 17 10:06 AM

All government officials are taught from day one to avoid the illusion of impropriety for this very reason. It's that simple. Next you'll be suggesting Bill Clinton had crumpets and tea with Loretta Lynch when they met on the plane parked on the tarmac.

Waiting for proof? Good luck. The Clinton Crime Family are masters at remaining removed by one step. We do know investigations into the Clinton Foundation’s practices did find donations were not properly disclosed (what do you know?) specifically, those of Uranium One Chairman Ian Telfer between 2009 and 2012. I'm shocked. " Oct 23, 17 10:14 AM

And as reported by the Hill last week, the FBI obtained an eyewitness account — backed by documents — indicating Russian nuclear officials had routed millions of dollars to the U.S. designed to benefit former Bill and Hillary's "charitable foundation" during the time of Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. You know, the same funds that coincidentally had disclosure issues.











served on a government body that provided a favorable decision to Moscow, sources told The Hill." Oct 23, 17 10:26 AM

Then you'll advocate for gun control when someone DOESN'T take it that way." Oct 23, 17 10:28 AM

Ahhh, yes.... data driven legislation. Riiight. " Oct 23, 17 10:49 AM

Again, skillfully removed no doubt, but we shall see. Sounds like the dots are slowly getting connected. You're either willfully ignorant, or woefully clueless if you think there will be a smoking gun. I suspect it's the latter.

LMAO. When did evidence ever matter?? The same could be said about the President and yet we've spent a year investigating "his campaign." Be careful what you ask for I suppose.... the chickens may come home to roost. " Oct 23, 17 10:57 AM

Oh, and this: "Beyond that, who cares if Russia gets uranium? Aren't they already nuclear-armed?"

We all should. They provide materials to make nuclear weapons to China and North Korea. " Oct 23, 17 11:00 AM

I'm merely stating the events as they've been reported. You may have viewed a copy of the original youtube post. But no, I don't think our media in general has any interest in protecting the Democratic party. According to Townhall, Maxine Waters Makes Threat She Will 'Take Trump Out' to Applause Timothy Meads Oct 22, 2017: "Kyle Olson of the American Mirror reported the statement on Friday, but Youtube pulled down the original video."

I'm saying that you're going to "take out" someone could be interpreted by some to do just that. Why is that so difficult to understand in this day and age?" Oct 23, 17 11:10 AM

Bring it. " Oct 23, 17 11:12 AM

HA...it's not the reasonable person we're concerned about.

Would I be screaming up and down, really, if it was an R? Please. When has someone holding a political office with an R behind there name made such an inflammatory statement? Democrats are known for them. "When they go high we'll go low." "Argue with your neighbors, get in their face". "If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun."

We've seen examples of how those on the fringes of both the Left and Right take this crap seriously.


" Oct 23, 17 11:46 AM

Go Bless America, yes. But our institutions being without equal used to be the case and are being tested. We've seen of late real examples of corruption creeping into our institutions borderline the likes of banana republics.

James Comey drafting a letter exonerating Hillary Clinton before the investigation was complete, for example. The influence and lock step of the media with the Democratic Party and its political office holders, another. Weaponizing the IRS to be used against political enemies, yet another...." Oct 23, 17 11:54 AM

Bull****. Hey Fore, who's the mindless zombie?

"Mr. Christensen, 65, noted that despite assurances by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission that uranium could not leave the country without Uranium One or ARMZ obtaining an export license — which they do not have — yellowcake from his property was routinely packed into drums and trucked off to a processing plant in Canada.

Asked about that, the commission confirmed that Uranium One has, in fact, shipped yellowcake to Canada even though it does not have an export license. Instead, the transport company doing the shipping, RSB Logistic Services, has the license."

Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid Russian Uranium Deal. NYTimes By JO BECKER and MIKE McINTIREAPRIL 23, 2015


" Oct 23, 17 10:11 PM

"but it's similar enough to Waters' statement"

Not even close. It contains no dog whistles for the unhinged to take as marching orders, that is, unless they are God-like (other than their self absorbed beliefs about themselves)." Oct 23, 17 10:22 PM

For at least the third time which you seem to acknowledge and not acknowledge at the same time, it's NOT the reasoned we're concerned about and acts of God which Senator Perdue seemed to call upon, no man or woman can accomplish. Reasoned or not.

Making an inflammatory statement as Maxine Water (D-CA) appealing to ones base, many of which are (still) foaming at the mouth angry and unable to come to terms with the results of the election, is rather frightening and like holding a match to a powder keg." Oct 24, 17 7:17 AM

Incorrect Fore, I saw the Podesta news yesterday prior to my post last night, and while I have every belief the REAL collusion on Russia can be found with the last administration and the Clintons and as promising as the Podesta revelations may be (shocker huh?), as non-bi partisan as the investigators backgrounds appear to be, I simply hold little confidence that those who have violated the trust (and law?)of the public will be held accountable and that others will by nit picked for literally nothing." Oct 24, 17 7:28 AM

Yes, there are a lot of fools out there, and that's the point. " Oct 24, 17 7:36 AM

And, I have no ideas shat "same motive" are you referring to..." Oct 24, 17 7:47 AM

I wasn't referring to Mueller's public trust, but now that you mention it....

"but every person whose opinion matters thinks he's the right person for the job"

Bull. The Mueller investigation team is littered with Clinton and Obama donors, now totaling nine attorneys who have donated to Cinton/Obama. " Oct 24, 17 8:36 AM

Stellar is a matter of opinion, but no, giving the benefit of the doubt after all we've seen from the DoJ shenanigans is not a given. The investigators will have to prove themselves and the fact that after a year long investigation with no proof of collusion to Trump and carte blanche on investigation resources and time frame, it really does look like a witch hunt. I welcome Mr. Mueller to prove me wrong. " Oct 24, 17 9:38 AM

"I'm ready, able, and willing to accept the results of either investigation.

Are you?"

LOL... Then why did you ask?
" Oct 24, 17 10:36 AM

Of course - "others' ignorance." Very enlightening. Happy basking.

The rest of us will be closely watching the cast of accomplished Hillary and Obama donors, and even one who defended the Clinton Foundation in court hoping they are capable of some resemblance of impartiality. " Oct 24, 17 11:29 AM

"unfavorable news" and "fake news" becoming synonymous for some people sounds very similar to "keep us (educated and accomplished)" and "basking in others ignorance," now doesn't it. " Oct 24, 17 2:03 PM

Good fences make good neighbors.

I think you're incorrectly thinking that I'm assuming that being educated or accomplished would stop one from laughing at others idiocy. In fact, it provides necessary perspective when all one can do IS laugh at you for even thinking that. " Oct 25, 17 12:32 PM

Because the trucking company waits at or near the ports for the containers to be unloaded and cleared. Time is money and getting the product to market in the fastest means possible impacts the bottom line. In all likelihood the contracts are written to place the burden on the trucking company and releases the company for they don't know when the container will be released by Customs and Border Protection since the "big retailer" has no say in that process. " Oct 25, 17 12:41 PM

Sounds horrible, but it's not. Someone would have had to pay for those law suits and the only one who would have made any money on it was the trial attorneys. The rest would have gotten the obligatory coupons for discounted whatever, like most class action law suits. The statement from the White House is clear:

Congress stood “up for everyday consumers and community banks and credit unions, instead of the trial lawyers, who would have benefited the most from the CFPB’s uninformed and ineffective policy.”" Oct 25, 17 9:15 PM

But effective and point made none the less regardless of whether you are impressed or think it's fake news...no doubt it is unfavorable news which you don't seem to take too kindly to. " Oct 25, 17 9:21 PM

Zeldin Has Nearly $1.17 Million In Campaign War Chest

So many accusations against the President, yet not a shred of evidence let alone any wrong doing." Oct 25, 17 9:33 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

No doubt. Or, it just went over your head. Afterall, it provides necessary perspective "to laugh at others' idiocy"." Oct 25, 17 10:32 PM

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman To Leave Independence Party, Join Democrats

"Trump is bought and paid for by the NRA."

Let's say it's true...just for discussion sake, so what? I can think of nothing more important than protecting Constitutional Rights. Now, if you disagree or dislike their policy, that's your problem. But, fact is, all politicians are "bought and paid for" by their policy stance darlings - and let's not even get started on the Clinton Foundation list of donors. " Oct 26, 17 8:11 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

Sure is. The average payout of class action lawsuits is $32 according to the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau. Arbitration works better for those who are truly aggrieved.

Class action lawsuits are costly with trial lawyers being the real winners. They get 33 1/3% while everyone else gets $32 in coupons....again, who do you think ultimately pays for that? Anyone? Anyone? Consumers!?! BING BING BING. " Oct 26, 17 8:25 AM

All that laughing "at others idiocy" has made you think you know what you don't really know. " Oct 26, 17 8:31 AM

Zeldin Has Nearly $1.17 Million In Campaign War Chest

I hear you Joe. This is HUGE - way bigger than Watergate - and the mainstream media and water carriers on the Left want nothing more than to sweep it under the rug. I've had a long standing personal theory that the Left will ALWAYS accuse those on the Right of what they themselves are guilty of - whether it be racism, attacks on the middle class...whatever... and NOW Russian collusion and high crimes and felonies. It's Washington establishment corruption through and through." Oct 26, 17 9:39 AM

Hey, it's Hillary's Birthday today!

Happy Birthday Hillary Clinton! I hope you get everything you deserve to get!!" Oct 26, 17 9:41 AM

Sunlight only makes the cockroaches scatter and go further into the depths they came from. You live in fantasy land if you think (any) wrongdoing always leads to prosecutions in Washington, especially with burdens of proof extremely difficult to reach.

Open minds have no difficulty connecting the dots regardless. " Oct 26, 17 10:02 AM

Nope. The absence of dots to connect and zero evidence vindicates Trump. " Oct 26, 17 10:03 AM

Oh geez. You're in search of equivalency and comparing a meeting which lasted 20-30 minutes (not by the President mind you) to which Donald Jr. listened, and did not solicit... to the paying of million of dollars funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign and actions laundered through a law form and funneled through a research firm firm and executed by a former British spy, then fed to the media lap dogs. And to top it off, lied about for a year by key Clinton spokes people.

Get real. " Oct 26, 17 12:06 PM

Well no s*** Inspector Clouseau. If it were that easy, Bill Clinton MIGHT just now be getting out of jail.

It's all the details that get you to that point and most importantly, proving it. The Clinton Crime Family has been at this for 40 years years, and like a good mob boss, NEVER implicate themselves. " Oct 26, 17 12:17 PM

Can you please pinpoint for us where it was accurately reported? Let me guess, someone "misplaced" 9 million dollars and someone "forgot" they directed the former British spy with ties to Russia to go there to facilitate the input from the Kremlin." Oct 27, 17 8:11 AM

Did you vote Democrat for the local and state elections? Bad news, you voted for your taxes to go up. " Oct 27, 17 8:14 AM

Blame yourself for voting Democrat. " Oct 27, 17 8:15 AM

Well, he DIDN'T vote yes. He voted no as you point out. Zeldin gave a great interview on Fox last night. He spoke about unfair advantages among states in the tax system, all boiling down to how effectively and efficiently states elected officials manage state budgets and spending. NYS has been run into the ground by Democrats and spending with the state having some of the highest property tax in the country. Here's a thought. What is NYS didn't have state tax?" Oct 27, 17 8:20 AM

Obama himself claimed the attack was the result of a video and Susan Rice perpetuated the lie into the next week. We know that to not be true (email traffic on September 12 by Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy). Are we to believe Obama didn't ask or know where the information came from when the lie was fabricate? That's some seriously crappy leadership and if Obama didn't know, it's a show of lack of respect for him by his subordinates. I have a hard time believing that. " Oct 27, 17 8:32 AM

See my post above for what I'm saying. " Oct 27, 17 8:33 AM

A vote for a democrat is a vote for higher taxes. Who did you vote for governor?" Oct 27, 17 8:36 AM

Follow the bouncing ball Fore... the media was fed a false story... it was clearly false..." Oct 27, 17 8:37 AM

It's no coincidence New Yorkers are fleeing to other states. The sun is only a part of it, and often it's not even Florida. " Oct 27, 17 8:39 AM

Governor." Oct 27, 17 8:40 AM

Of course delegate, however, Obama also gets briefed on them. LOL, the nature of the attack was clear on September 12 for sure. No "sounds like" about it. The video lie was even told to grieving relatives. Despicable and disgusting. " Oct 27, 17 8:44 AM

Good answer: See post above for real story with emphasis now on "misplaced" 9 million dollars and "forgot" direction of former British spy with ties to Russia and "forgot" dossier was false when it was used to begin allegations against Trump.

Keep the Pulitzer, I want nothing to do with the slimy and corrupt media. " Oct 27, 17 8:49 AM

If you say so. It's your argument. " Oct 27, 17 8:51 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

It's a talking point that is factual.

Forgot? No. The focus was on payouts. 33 1/3 is accurate. You're forgetting that there are two sides to every argument (shocker) and one would suggest companies don't always believe they ARE guilty. " Oct 27, 17 9:02 AM

Zeldin Has Nearly $1.17 Million In Campaign War Chest

"So it's just what you think happened? Got it."

All documented as factual at this time. Oh, and btw, here's another tidbit that you can get.

Podesta, the Hillary Clinton Campaign manager testified to the Senate that he did not know who funded the Dossier. Well, we now know it was Hillary's campaign and the DNC. And who was sitting right next to him? Marc Elias. Elias was representing Podesta at the hearing, but he is ALSO a Partner at Perkins Coie, the firm who was paid to launder the efforts of the false information. The Washington Post reported that Elias, a longtime Democratic party “fixer,” paid Fusion GPS through Perkins Coie." Oct 27, 17 2:13 PM

Can you even vote?" Oct 27, 17 2:14 PM

You're doing no such thing. Don't insult us with the armchair passive aggression. " Oct 27, 17 2:16 PM

Ok, but just do it once. Only telling you because sometimes Democrats don't understand that too well. " Oct 27, 17 2:24 PM

Bull. You know full well we'll never see the full facts. It's the only reason you're willing to do so. The cockroaches are already taking cover. It's no different than Hillary violating security protocol with having her own server and deleting 30,000 emails related the Chelsea and yoga routines or having a Benghazi shredding party. " Oct 27, 17 2:35 PM

Documented proof LMAO, that's so cute. Here's one out of the media and Democratic (but I repeat myself) playbook... anonymous sources have said it to be true.

There it is however..."documented proof." That's your top cover and the game you play knowing full well the finely tuned and oiled machine of Washington politics NEVER allows for documented proof. You should be very proud. A story is fabricated, paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign, fed to the lap dog media, who then goes to the Hillary campaign for confirmation. It really is poetry in motion. " Oct 27, 17 2:55 PM

Evidence upon evidence of wrong doing is not assumptions. That's reasonable suspicion.

I never go with everyone for anything. But, we've seen Comey was corrupt and we now know there is good reason Mueller should recuse himself, beyond the initial speculation that he had potential conflict of interest. 28 CFR 600.7 specifically prohibits those with a conflict of interest from serving. It's been interpreted to mean that even the appearance of a conflict is sufficient for disqualification. Will he? We'll see. " Oct 27, 17 3:04 PM

No doubt we have a different definition of "unfavorable outcome".

My very sound opinion is simply based on instance after instance of chicanery in a system managed, played and owned by can be described as either corrupt, or bankrupt of integrity. It's no different than the management principle deployed by the mob or cartels. So, you trust the mob and cartels?" Oct 27, 17 3:45 PM

Everything I've stated has in fact taken place. Who, what, when, where and how, is another story. That's what I call documented proof. I simply doubt those particulars will ever be known. Why is that so difficult to understand or acknowledge?" Oct 27, 17 3:47 PM

Yes, you sound like a rational person. Good point. " Oct 27, 17 3:49 PM

Apparently, the delusions are shared by many. Whether its the end depends on whether you're capable of acknowledging the potential for lack of impartiality.

Robert Mueller should recuse himself from Russia investigation
William G. Otis, June 14, 2017. Former FBI director is too close to his successor, James Comey, to be impartial.

Robert Mueller is a man of integrity with a long record of public service. In the abstract, he would be the right selection as special counsel in the Russia investigation. Under the specific circumstances of this case, however, with his longtime friend James Comey at the center of the inquiry, Mueller's the wrong choice. The public cannot be as sure as it needs to be of his objectivity.
" Oct 27, 17 3:57 PM

ahhhh, yes.... "when it's demonstrated." A little late, wouldn't you say?

So, we have Mueller conflicts of interest, an investigative team stacked with Obama and Hillary supporters... for starters... let's add attorney client privlege and deniability to the things that make you go hmmm nd reasons we'll likely NEVER get all the facts. Now why would the Clinton Campaign hire attorneys to do their dirty work such as Fusion GPS, one might ask?

It's law enforcement 101 to avoid any perception of conflict of interest and in the case with Mueller, it IS the law. " Oct 27, 17 5:38 PM

So it would appear the indictments have nothing to do with his campaign invovlements, Trump, or Russia for that matter.

Now, on to the indictments of Hillary and company and THEIR involvement in collusion with Russia. " Oct 30, 17 9:47 AM

Uh, I think it shows Trump's leadership ability for firing him." Oct 31, 17 7:53 AM

Drain the swamp. " Oct 31, 17 7:53 AM

No, Manafort served a purpose to get Trump the nomination given his expert knowledge of the process.

That is an excellent quality." Oct 31, 17 9:15 AM

So you're saying trump knew. You must know something we don't. Do tell. " Oct 31, 17 9:22 AM

Oh, thanks Kreskin. Good to know it's just your opinion rather than that fact we've seen no indication he knew. " Oct 31, 17 9:27 AM

Good one john, "racist" had become so passe'." Oct 31, 17 9:34 AM

No Kreskin, circle back to it as much as you will, it does not cut against the President's judge of character - unless someone decides it is to their ideologue expedience to judge it as such. What speaks more is that when the President did become aware, he made the right decision by not tolerating questionable character.

And let's not forget, Manafort has not been convicted. " Oct 31, 17 10:48 AM

Don't play twenty questions if you don't get your preferred response. It's boring. " Oct 31, 17 11:13 AM

That's now 21 questions. Discussion is one thing, circular ridiculousness is another. " Oct 31, 17 11:25 AM

Zzzzzzzzz....." Oct 31, 17 11:36 AM

Got what it deserved :-)" Oct 31, 17 11:49 AM

Every administration is different. Some of Trump's selections have left before other administrations, some have not.

Collapsing? Hardly. " Oct 31, 17 11:53 AM

Yes, Washington establishment has not been happy and the corrupt democrat media has been relentless. But I'll make the point again, every administration is different and is usually reflective of the challenges they face.

For W, Obama , BJ Clinton, Reagan, the average turnover rate at the end of each president’s first term is 72 percent, meaning that an average of 44 staffers leave the White House in the first four years.*





*National Review Are Trump’s Staff Turnovers Abnormal? by Philip H. DeVoe August 10, 2017 " Oct 31, 17 12:32 PM

Well, no Captain Obvious, Both mischaracterized examples against the applied standard were seemingly self-inflicted by those individuals. I think the average American is ok with a few rookie mistakes in light of relentless pounding as long as it is handled properly when they arise and in the spirit of moving the country forward, and Trump has consistently done so. " Oct 31, 17 1:15 PM

Oye Fore....the context of your examples and use of them mischaracterized my point that the administration has faced relentless attacks - not the specifics of the two examples you selected to characterize. Let me try again, the relentless attacks and leaks have detracted from the business of the people and placed significant pressures on personnel in the administration. So sure, there will be turnover. Have there been rookie mistakes, of course. But that is normal as well.

Any dolt can search the particulars of Scaramucci's comments, you included. Do I have an opinion, not really. I will say I believe Scaramucci served a purpose, and that purpose was to flush out rats. " Oct 31, 17 7:03 PM

Zeldin Met With Pence On Tuesday To Discuss Tax Reform Bill

Dead people also don't spend life insurance money. They're dead.

Estate tax, like life insurance, is inheritance. It differs in that it's been taxed previously as income. Life insurance however, is not taxed. It too is paid to beneficiaries. Unlike estate tax, life insurance is not included as gross income but yet is considered inheritance.

But yet, the two are treated entirely differently at death. Other than income generation, why?" Oct 31, 17 7:24 PM

Zeldin Has Nearly $1.17 Million In Campaign War Chest

U.S. Consumer Confidence Just Hit Its Highest Level in Almost 17 Years

By Sho Chandra ‎October‎ ‎31‎, ‎2017‎ " Nov 1, 17 7:47 AM

Only to be out done by 21 words..." Nov 1, 17 7:51 AM

Let's start here JuneZ...."trump's Republican opponents were the first to pay for it"

Depends on what your definition of "it" is. "It" was not to manufacture a fake Dossier. " Nov 2, 17 10:14 AM

Zeldin Met With Pence On Tuesday To Discuss Tax Reform Bill

Actually, it was HW. The Visa Lottery is an ill conceived policy wrought with unintended consequences. The TERRORIST should never have been allowed in the United States. Period. He was open to being radicalized consistent with the same argument of why its a bad program. No family in the US, no means to vett connections for family or ties to know terrorist, etc.s. It's like giving a burglar the keys to your house.

Trump ending subsidies is by no means the sole reason premiums are increasing. Come on now. Double digit rate increases were announced for many states in August, two months prior to the announcement to cut subsidies. " Nov 2, 17 3:40 PM

Zeldin Has Nearly $1.17 Million In Campaign War Chest

Yes it is Mr. Z. Stupid is incredibly strong. Nice recap of what Fusion GPS does but help me to understand what your point is. What does the above post have to do with who funded "opposition research" that was used to discredit a President/President Elect and influence an election? It was funded and driven by the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clinton Campaign, to the tune of 12 million dollars and coordinated with Russian ties. Any Right leaning interest had ceased when Trump got the nomination.

So, if you have something to say, say it already. " Nov 3, 17 7:49 AM

Zeldin Met With Pence On Tuesday To Discuss Tax Reform Bill

Well, this is rather inconvenient for Democrats:

Fact Checker Analysis

Senate Democrats falsely claim GOP tax plan will raise taxes for most working-class families

By Glenn Kessler November 2 at 3:00 AM

FOUR PiNNOCHIOS" Nov 3, 17 7:54 AM

Not really feeling support for a fact based ban on vehicles, huh?

I think your consternation stems from on the one hand, you want to focus on the instrument (a gun), but on the other, you want to focus on the person. Fact is in both instances, the focus should be on the person for in of and by themselves and used responsibly, neither a gun nor a vehicle are inherently dangerous. " Nov 3, 17 8:08 AM

You couldn't pay me to watch a game or knowingly support a sponsor." Nov 3, 17 1:12 PM

LMAO... that's priceless perspective given the revelations of the Democratic Party confirmed by Donna Brazile.

Refresh my memory, you're the same guy who said Mitt Romney and/or his son(s) were going to jail, right? Seems to be a bad case of SSDD." Nov 7, 17 7:39 AM

Ms. Veselnitskaya, for her part, said in an statement to The Times sent this past weekend that “nothing at all about the presidential campaign” had been discussed at the Trump Tower meeting, adding that she had “never acted on behalf of the Russian government” and that she had “never discussed any of these matters with any representative of the Russian government.” " Nov 7, 17 8:05 AM

It is certainly good to be a Democrat." Nov 7, 17 8:06 AM

Donald Trump Jr. portrayed the meeting this way: “It was a short introductory meeting. I asked Jared and Paul to stop by. We primarily discussed a program about the adoption of Russian children that was active and popular with American families years ago and was since ended by the Russian government, but it was not a campaign issue at the time and there was no follow-up.”" Nov 7, 17 8:08 AM

Comment posted by Donald Trump Jr. on Twitter on July 11, 2017

To everyone, in order to be totally transparent, I am releasing the entire email chain of my emails with Rob Goldstone about the meeting on June 9, 2016. The first email on June 3, 2016 was from Rob, who was relating a request from Emin, a person I knew from the 2013 Ms. Universe Pageant near Moscow. Emin and his father have a very highly respected company in Moscow. The information they suggested they had about Hillary Clinton I thought was Political Opposition Research. I first wanted to just have a phone call but when that didn't work out, they said the woman would be in New York and asked if I would meet. I decided to take the meeting. The woman, as she has said publicly, was not a government official. And, as we have said, she had no information to provide and wanted to talk about adoption policy and the Magnitsky Act. To put this in context, this occurred before the current Russian fever was in vogue. As Rob Goldstone said just today in the press, the entire meeting was “the most inane nonsense l ever heard. And I was actually agitated by it.”
" Nov 7, 17 8:15 AM

An early draft of former FBI Director James Comey’s statement closing out the Hillary Clinton email case accused the former secretary of State of having been “grossly negligent” in handling classified information, newly reported memos to Congress show. The tough language was changed to the much softer accusation that Clinton had been “extremely careless” in her handling of classified information when Comey announced in July 2016 there would be no charges against her. The change is significant, since federal law states that gross negligence in handling the nation’s intelligence can be punished criminally with prison time or fines. Early Comey draft accused Clinton of gross negligence on emails. The Hill By John Solomon - 11/06/17 02:56 PM EST" Nov 7, 17 8:29 AM

“The agreement — signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and [Clinton campaign manager] Robby Mook with a copy to [Clinton campaign counsel] Marc Elias— specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised,” Brazile wrote in the story under the headline “Inside Hillary Clinton’s Secret Takeover of the DNC.”" Nov 7, 17 9:07 AM

Since your perception of reality has collided with the world of hypothetical and theoretical, here's one...

Maybe Donald Jr. is working for the Feds. Hmmm..." Nov 7, 17 10:57 AM

Mariotti said "prosecutors would need to show evidence of a connection between Trump Jr.’s offer and his request for damaging information on Hillary Clinton — but he said that’s not always easy.

“The question is what the Russian lawyer understood Trump Jr. to mean during the conversation,” Mariotti said. “Did she think he wanted dirt in exchange?”

Veselnitskaya would not be the best witness, because she may also have broken the law and would present credibility issues as a likely Russian operative, Mariotti said, and Trump Jr.’s attorneys could argue that his offer wasn’t an official act because his father was not yet president and HE NEVER PROMISED REPEAL" [caps for emphasis].

~ Renato Mariotti, former Federal Prosecutor
" Nov 7, 17 2:03 PM

Sure. Because a spy never lies, lol.

People can lie. Email chains proving intent don't.
By Mr. Z (9422), North Sea on Nov 7, 17 10:23 AM

" Nov 7, 17 8:49 PM

Sure. Because a spy never lies, lol.

People can lie. Email chains proving intent don't.
By Mr. Z (9422), North Sea on Nov 7, 17 10:23 AM

" Nov 7, 17 8:49 PM

Good luck with "Hmmmmmmmmm"...." Nov 7, 17 9:06 PM

"President Trump was right," Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel said in a statement. "Director Comey's statement reconfirmed what the president has been saying all along — he was never under investigation."" Nov 7, 17 9:18 PM

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Comey: Classified Clinton emails forwarded to Anthony Weiner
Zachary Cohen-Profile-Image
By Zachary Cohen, CNN Updated 1:53 PM ET, Wed May 3, 2017

Weepy Anthony Weiner Sentenced to 21 Months in Prison for Sexting Teen Girl. Katie Zavadski 9;25:.17 10:42 AM ET

" Nov 7, 17 9:30 PM

"Clinton Global Initiative to shut down, lays off 22 as donations dry up"


CGI was criticized prior to the Nov. 8, 2016, election when stolen emails belonging to Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta detailed some of the group’s inner workings. WikiLeaks documents revealed Teneo co-founder Douglas Band discussing ways his consulting firm secured lucrative deals for Mr. Clinton.

By Douglas Ernst - The Washington Times - Monday, January 16, 2017" Nov 7, 17 9:51 PM

Gee, I'm shocked...didn't see a clarification of the rules coming when the other team began to score [insert rolling of the eyes]. You said associates. What, you don't like playing the game?

And technically, "Georgie" hasn't been convicted (yet), or will that rule be changing too. Let me know. Still 1-0, Dem associates convicted to Republican. " Nov 8, 17 7:50 AM

I was thinking it didn't go to sentencing yet so technically not a conviction but can see the point as well. But, ok.

To Snerdley's point I think, if you know someone well enough to send them classified information as Hillary did to Weiner, they might just be an associate. " Nov 8, 17 9:53 AM

LOL, for printing. Good one. Does it really matter whether Hillary sent classified emails directly to Anthony Weiner or her CoS then sent them along (to her husband), "for printing?" UM, they're classified and were handled with gross negligence.

I think that's really the point. " Nov 8, 17 11:04 AM

Did anything happen that wasn't expected, I mean other than learning JuneZ had a thought and was capable of prayer?" Nov 8, 17 2:03 PM

Again, with the circular questions when you don't like the answer or my opinion...so I will repeat my previous and throw you a bone or two, and please stop with the "it sounds like you" BS.

Human nature, Washington establishment, the swamp, proven history, recent examples is enough for critics to question the integrity of an investigations especially when there exists the appearance of conflicts of interest. Add to that Comey's partisanship in the Hillary investigation with draft memos exonerating her before the investigation is complete and changes to classification of terminology that lessens the severity of very severe actions.

The bone - frankly I don't see any difference in Comey and Mueller, right down to Mueller reporting to Comey at one time and Comey considering Mueller his mentor. Birds of a feather if you will and they have a well documented close relationship. I'm not questioning what either did in their past professional lives, but being around the swamp for too long no matter what the position gives someone a very distinguishable stench and at minimum Mueller lacks the critical distance to conduct a credible probe of the bureau he ran for a dozen years. Don't misinterpret any of this to be a slur to someone's personal integrity. It just is.

Until I personally see actions that legitimately investigate the other side of the political spectrum for seemingly very real criminal actions I will maintain my element of criticism. Two pertinent questions remain: Did the dossier trigger the FBI probe of the Trump campaign, and did Comey or his agents use it as evidence to seek wiretapping approval from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court of Trump campaign aides?” This is huge.

So the moral to this story and specifically to your "if so, where" question, it doesn't matter "if so where." The appearance of conflict of interest is enough of a burden. " Nov 8, 17 2:43 PM

"Well gee, other pizza chains don't have revenue issues..."

Bingo!

People being creatures of habit, which is why franchises as a whole have been so successful over the years, they need a reason to be driven from their habit. This reason is player protests and the NFL mishandling of it. " Nov 8, 17 9:31 PM

With 350 million pizza's sole annually, $3.5 billion in sales, 4,971 locations and in 37 countries, as hard as it is to digest (lol), some might disagree with you. " Nov 9, 17 8:32 AM

You don't think kneeling during the national anthem is symptomatic of bigger societal issues beyond the intended message of the protests? There was a time not long ago when patriotism was the common thread to bond the nation. Now, it's a tool to divide, compliments of liberalism and the Democratic Party (but I repeat myself)." Nov 9, 17 8:44 AM

People have not forgotten Colin Kaepernick's early statements, whether intended a certain way or not. Perception rules the day. Expression of the First Amendment has consequences and backing away from that once done, is a tough sell. It's that simple

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color."

Colin Kaepernick" Nov 9, 17 10:38 AM

Nice white guilt Mf - I for one do not share in your guilt. If you think I have not been discriminated against as a white male growing up and seeking employment in the age of quotas and reverse discrimination, you are seriously mistaken. I have been subjugated to the laws and policies that were intended FOR a black person to rise up.

Yes, I can so with 100% certainty police act differently around blacks than whites to a certain degree and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that as long as they are respectful and acting within policy and the law. It has NOTHING to do with skin color however, it is purely situational and all that goes along with going home safely at the end of a shift. Do police treat a vehicle stop of a white person differently than a black person. Hell no. Only if they want to place their life in danger." Nov 9, 17 10:53 AM

Po: I'm not clear on what you mean. You said "I can [say] with 100% certainty police act differently around black [people] than white [people]" but then follow it with "Do police treat a vehicle stop of a white person differently than a black person[?] Hell no."

Continue reading...different actions is situational, and to add, which brings with it a heightened sense of vigilance. Think of generic police activity on Dune Road vs. somewhere in Riverhead. The vehicle stop example was a separate thought to point out that at a certain level, how police act has NOTHING to do with skin color.

To your appended question, police ARE held accountable by law and policy for "bad" actions. What the general citizenry have zero appreciation for is the split second decisions that can give the perception of a bad act. Police have a right to be safe and go home at night and if it can't be proven that they acted inappropriately and/or the action supported their perception of the threat, then it is extremely unfortunate and that sentiment often doesn't do the circumstances justice. " Nov 9, 17 11:20 AM

Is race a valid factor in the evaluation of any given situation, or only under certain circumstances?

Race is never a (valid?) factor (and of course, like any profession, there is a small bad element). White people kill police just as easily as any other and the situation and circumstances are addressed in their totality." Nov 9, 17 12:16 PM

People could care less about the political stance of their favorite player and "having your worldview shattered" is a ridiculous and inflammatory statement giving way too much credit to NFL players - making them almost god-like in the eyes of the typical fan. They're not and most don't view them as such. Fans just don't want to see it on any given Sunday and think the workplace is an inappropriate venue to express political and social opinion. Whether it be kneeling for the anthem or commentary on guns.

Kaepernick's actions served nothing other than to bring to the surface fan's perceptions that NFL players are nothing more than elitist and unappreciative of the opportunities they've received while calling a country, while not perfect, an oppressive state and the labeling of all police as guilty of brutality. Players and the NFL basically gave fans an "FU", and the fans are giving a "no, FU" back. " Nov 9, 17 1:16 PM

I figured a true American success story where a guy sells his car to buy some pizza equipment to sell pizza out of the broom closet of his dad's bar wouldn't fly well with some. " Nov 9, 17 1:23 PM

That's right Mf, didn't get the job because I was white, and I have the test scores to prove it and know the score of a minority that did and it was from our own New York State no less.

You see though, no worries, it all worked out and probably for the better. Life has a way of working those issues out when you continue to push forward." Nov 9, 17 2:12 PM

You're in good company Mf, it's kind of like a Presidential candidate who painted with a broad stroke all Trump supporters as Deplorables. Us Deplorables expect no less and that very sentiment is by definitionf... bigoted.

When Democrats are accusing you of something, it is because they themselves are guilty of it. " Nov 9, 17 2:16 PM

You're doing it again.... extraneous points mixed with extraneous analogies molded into extraneous questions....

We're talking specially about current events.... and a commercial is very different than on field actions or commentary by broadcast announcers as part of the telecast. " Nov 9, 17 2:25 PM

"...and the VA governorship"

It would stand to reason you can't get something you already had. If you have a dollar and I ask for it, and you don't give it to me, you still have a dollar.
" Nov 10, 17 10:52 AM

You're saying no one gets murdered in other countries JuneZ as a result of mental illness?" Nov 10, 17 10:56 AM

With New York a relatively affluent per capita state, this combined with the tax structure makes that to be expected. What if, NY didn't take in so much in taxes? They would then have to budget accordingly and would likely receive much more than they pay out in Federal Taxes. Mixing apples and oranges a bit, but, $20,000+ in property taxes per year for a modest house is criminal.

*Federal spending and the cost of federal revenues are
not apportioned to the states by any single formula.
Rather, dozens of statutory provisions as well as a
wide range of economic, demographic and political
factors drive the state-by-state distribution of such
costs and benefits. Examples of such factors include:
each state’s population; its numbers of residents in
poverty and of those eligible for Social Security and
Medicare; [and caps for emphasis} INCOME LEVELS; and the STATES' OWN POLICY CHOICES.

*New York's Balance of Payments to the Federal Government 2013
OFFICE OF THE NEW YORK STATE COMPTROLLER
Thomas P. DiNapoli, State Comptroller
New York’s Balance of Payments
in the Federal Budget
Federal Fiscal Year 2013
OCTOBER 2015


" Nov 10, 17 11:12 AM

What do you think any one of the 4,700 franchises are?" Nov 10, 17 11:17 AM

Mf, if you're going to steal someone's quote, at least give them the credit for it. And Fore, you are correct. It's no different than any other precautionary action someone would take to any number of threats.

I would suggest, there is no such thing as gun control - it is a figment of the Left's political imagination and simply a talking point to get donations by politicizing tragedy. Whether it be from firearms already available, the 2nd Amendment guaranteeing the Right, criminals possessing them or the illegal trafficking of guns similar to the drug trade even IF you confiscated every single gun, and I'll even throw in technology advancements such as 3D printing that allows for any type of gun to be digitally manufactured...guns would still find a way into peoples hands and that can NOT be controlled.

" Nov 13, 17 8:44 AM

Some might say, yes. " Nov 13, 17 8:52 AM

Stupid is as stupid does. I say JuneZ's (and your?) conclusion is flawed and drawn from a nicely wrapped talking point that compares apples and oranges, first off, by focusing on "mass murder" when statistics bear that murder as a whole has actually dropped over time and has horrible as it is, is actually statistically insignificant from a calculating the odds perspective - one in a million to be almost statistically exact. " Nov 13, 17 9:08 AM

So we're going to debate 3D printing now and its translation to ability to be machined? Oy... Technology and human ingenuity has a way of working those details out. Ban or confiscate guns and see how long that takes. " Nov 13, 17 9:12 AM

Throw inflammatory bombs all you wish Mf...it doesn't change reality that the United States isn't Japan nor Australia. And when you peel away the argument and compare it to like-analogies within the United States, there is very little difference in the statistics.

" Nov 13, 17 11:07 AM

You don't know that. But it makes for a great talking point.

Fore, surely even you can understand that a highly motivated person will stop at nothing to carry out unspeakable acts and "gun control" is a pipe dream for a host of reasons most of which will only keep guns out of the hands of the law abiding, and apparently, those incapable of 3D printing and gunsmithing. Point being...after all the law abiding people have been disarmed, it WON'T matter whether the gun is semi-automatic or not. " Nov 13, 17 11:11 AM

They're not pointless, the issue will continue to be used as a wedge issue to drive fund raising and make Democrats and politicians feel good about themselves while pointing fingers.

" Nov 13, 17 11:27 AM

UPDATE: Zeldin Votes No On GOP Tax Bill In House Thursday

Please Mr. Z, help me understand the relevance, cuz I just don't see it. " Nov 13, 17 10:41 PM

Bizarre. " Nov 14, 17 9:57 AM

Stop the bill why? He's not supposed to be for middle class tax cuts or tax reform?

What would you suggest the Good Congressman do to stop the bill altogether?" Nov 14, 17 10:04 AM

Ok, no answer noted on what YOU suggest what Mr. Zeldin should do to stop the bill.

For the vast majority of middle class Americans, it is a tax cut. You're repeating blatant Leftist lies, proven incorrect with Four Pinocchio's by the Washington Post. " Nov 14, 17 10:35 AM

Very slick Fore... who said "->no <- middle class families would see higher tax burden?" Republicans have said most middle class would receive a tax break while democrats have said most would receive a tax increase. Democrats were proven to have lied.

I've personally seen Mr. Zeldin on multiple occasions speak out publicly on the bill and ways it falls short. The amendments you seek Mr. Zeldin to pursue have already been taken as part of the subcommitte and committee action. What you are suggesting is like when a spoiled child doesn't get his way he'll hold his breath until he does and goes against established protocol. To quote two other congressman, "I'm still a no, my position hasn't changed," said Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.). Rep. Frank LoBiondo (R-N.J.) added that leadership "hasn't changed" the bill at all, and he remains opposed."

So you see, Mr. Zeldin is not alone in this fight, and in true partisan critical fashion, the Left seek Herculean efforts that no person is capable. " Nov 14, 17 2:58 PM

I'm certain you do realize Mcconnell walked that back, and you call that a "blatant lie"? Well, you do take your marching orders well it would seem. From The Hill -

"I misspoke on that. You can't guarantee that absolutely no one sees a tax increase," McConnell told The New York Times on Friday."

McConnell added that "what we are doing is targeting levels of income and looking at the average in those levels and the average will be tax relief for the average taxpayer in each of those segments."

Democrats immediately seized on McConnell's walk-back, accusing the Kentucky Republican of lying about the Senate GOP tax plan."" Nov 14, 17 6:50 PM

M2 correlation to NYS waste, inefficiency and taxes will remain a mystery. " Nov 14, 17 7:56 PM

Didn't see it, couldn't find it, and not really sure it matters. Middle class is different depending on where you live in the country given income and cost of living. The Washington Post used $86,000 as the benchmark in their analysis to debunk the Democratic claims. " Nov 14, 17 8:00 PM

I would suggest that in certain parts of the country, the 35 percent tax bracket IS damn near middle class. A bit nit picky of critics if you ask me singling out a talking point bullet of an internal closed-door document.

I'm in no way supporting the GOP plan because I too think it falls short, I'm simply defending from misleading criticism that only will serve to derail any progress. " Nov 15, 17 8:57 AM

And hence the focus of your earlier question, "Do you agree with that?"... the end game was to attack me personally. Gee, didn't see that coming. That's fine. But if you remove the emotion and the label of "middle class", cost of living is significantly different across the country. That's all I'm saying. Deal with it. " Nov 15, 17 9:13 AM

If you're insulted by a family who has a higher income but who also lives in a higher cost of living area and still struggles to make ends meet, that sounds like your issue. Don't project it onto me. " Nov 15, 17 9:40 AM

"I'm not insulted by their existence"... you just called them foolhardy. You're entitled to your opinion even if it doesn't account for respective individual challenges.

I understand exactly where you're coming from and I'm not surprised by the reaction. People like to put labels on things whether it be "middle class" - because after all, who doesn't love the middle class, and class warfare, pitting one class against the other - because, who doesn't hate the rich. It's the age old haves and have nots. Neither of which accounts for the individual nature of personal circumstances." Nov 15, 17 10:27 AM

"I don't understand" is the first and only thing we'll agree on.

How about medical bills as a reason that would push a family to not being able to make ends meet?

Keep the focus Fore, what was "masqueraded" was an internal closed door handout for a committee. There was no "lying to your face."
" Nov 15, 17 10:54 AM

Oh, good, we're on to debate the particulars of health insurance and all the assumptions that could go into individual life circumstances. Sounds like a wonderful and productive discussion." Nov 15, 17 11:10 AM

Yeah, watch your tone mister, I knew exactly where you wanted to take the discussion when you asked, "Do you agree with that (a closed-door handout)?" It was no longer about policy, but personal.

I would agree with you that $413k based on traditional definition is not middle class, in general, but in the upper income tier. But, it is a complicated equation with geography, number of family members, outflow all a factor...and if you want to compare to other earners solely on income...well yeah, no s**t. But to say "no family" ... nope, that's not true*.

*Are you in the American middle class? Find out with our income calculator By Richard Fry and Rakesh Kochhar

If you have a large number of family members/dependents, you WILL be middle class even at $413k.
" Nov 15, 17 12:46 PM

And the mystery thickens with additional coded quips. All of a sudden, you're a vault Mr. Z., one just has to wonder why that is when an honest request for clarity was all that was asked.

What does the price of eggs in China have to do with the suitcase?

M2 Nov. 12th 2007: 7.4 trillion dollars
M2 Nov. 13th 2017: 13.7 trillion dollars

He replied. " Nov 15, 17 1:42 PM

It's amazing what you can fathom when you get out the comfort zone and it took a Pew model to illustrate my point. Now add other factors outside of the control of households and it too is conceivable to play a factor. You made the same mistake as when you called out McConnell for saying ALL in the middle class would get a tax cut, only you said ALL who make 413K are not middle class. " Nov 15, 17 3:42 PM

Home many times do we have to school liberals...

1) automatic weapons are ALREADY highly regulated by the ATF to include registry of who owns them and who will shoot them
2) Crime and murders are down. in other words, there is no correlation that more guns translate to more crime.
3) They aren't (only) the President's policies. They are Obama's, W's, Clinton as well.
4) "More stringent" background checks alludes that more stringent background checks aren't already done. They are. " Nov 15, 17 9:14 PM

"You can view the memo however you want"
I don't seek or need your permission

"I'm going to stick with "families earning $413k are not middle income and to lower their tax rate is not a middle-class tax cut."
You can view the memo however you want. And I agree." Nov 15, 17 9:16 PM

What part of this...

"Please Mr. Z, help me understand the relevance, cuz I just don't see it."

Did you not understand?" Nov 15, 17 9:29 PM

anyone who thinks mass murder is normal should have their head examined. " Nov 16, 17 12:15 PM

So, there is no correlation.

Truly bizarre." Nov 16, 17 12:16 PM

Let's face it. It doesn't matter what I prefer. You'll color it with what you "think" regardless.

Every day I wake up, I'm happy. You are correct. " Nov 17, 17 10:28 AM

Oh, ok... so by default you then must think mass murders are normal.

There is nothing normal about mass murder or mass murders. " Nov 19, 17 12:36 PM

You left out, "conforming to a standard" and the semi colon which is attached to the phrase following the word standard.

What standard is mass murder conforming to?

" Nov 20, 17 9:31 AM

OMG.....they had a meeting. The horror.

Meanwhile, the typical Democratic modus operandi is in full swing... accuse Republicans of what Democrats are guilty of. We're seeing full well what the War on Women was all about. " Nov 20, 17 8:45 PM

Yeah, ecoterrorists if it was ecoterrorists aren't smart enough to get to pipeline 3-6 feet deep.

DEM=DUM" Nov 20, 17 9:55 PM

"all failed to produce evidence of political interference."

"Yet the IRS clearly applied extra scrutiny to groups that it thought might be engaged in too much [CONSERVATIVE] politics to warrant the preferential tax designation."

If we haven't learned by now that the slimy underbelly of establishment politics doesn't leave a smoking gun, then we really are as Deplorable as the Left believes us to be. " Nov 21, 17 7:39 AM

Yes, saw that in the opinion piece, nothing new there. The vast VAST majority were conservative groups. This is undisputed fact.

And as Mr. Z plants the victory flag in the shadows of Lois Lerner pleading the 5th, the findingsshouldn't surprise anyone: IRS Wipes Another Hard Drive Defying Court Order...But You Must Keep Tax Records*

"In March 2014, nine months after receiving a congressional subpoena to preserve and turn over the information, the IRS deleted approximately 24,000 Lerner emails and destroyed Lerner’s hard drive. Many emails were lost forever when 422 backup tapes were wiped clean despite a preservation order and subpoena. The House Oversight Committee report said the IRS failed to take even simple steps to ensure compliance with the order."

Forbes. Jan 20, 2016 Robert W. Wood

" Nov 21, 17 8:52 AM

Uhhhh....events are what events are there JuneZ. As much as you may want to hold your breath and pretend a settlement with Conservative groups didn't happen...it did. Will this help you sleep better at night?

Justice Department settles IRS targeting lawsuits. Tal Kopan By Tal Kopan, CNN
" Nov 21, 17 1:05 PM

"Is Trump's Justice Department choosing to settle the claims a political choice, equivalent to Obama's Justice Department refusing to defend DOMA?"

Huh? Leftist turn. On the surface, I get it, but what does that have to do with the inabiity of Congressional leaders to find wrong doing in light of 24,000 emails and backups being deleted?

And following your logic of political choice, it would stand to reason it was Obama's Administration that chose to destroy 33,000 emails by Hillary and the State Department and 24,000 from Lois Lerner and the IRS." Nov 21, 17 9:32 PM

Inquiring minds would like to know how the initials D.A. were signed in the year book when Roy Moore wasn't even a DA at the time of the alleged incident. " Nov 22, 17 7:47 AM

But what does that have to do with 24,000 missing emails and 422 backup tapes that were wiped clean which would seem to give cause as to why no "political interference" was found. Why would the IRS defy a preservation order and subpoena and shy would Lois Lerner plead the 5th?

Where is the correlation in your example of such an egregious and insubordinate act?" Nov 22, 17 7:56 AM

No, it's a question for the accuser and her attorney which they have refused to cooperate or respond to by allowing the handwriting analysis. Roy Moore's attorney has already provided a response. No defense here of Roy Moore, simply a legitimate question of anyone being accused of something. The answer has been given that it is a similar signature of the accusers divorce decree when she appeared before Judge Moore and as was typically done, witnessed by Delver Adams who typically stamped his initials on court documents. Interesting." Nov 22, 17 8:05 AM

What, denying he ever knew the woman wasn't enough?

So why won't Gloria Allred allow analysis immediately? What is she afraid of and what is she hiding?" Nov 22, 17 8:44 AM

You asked why Moore didn't deny sighing it all together.

The answer is: he denied ever knowing the woman.

You've ignored this interesting facet...Why won't Gloria Allred allow analysis immediately? What is she afraid of and what is she hiding? " Nov 22, 17 9:32 AM

"To answer your question: they're not handing over the book because they don't have to."

You must have some insider information. Please share!! Friends with Gloria?

I would think they'd want to substantiate the allegations in the face of the denial. " Nov 22, 17 9:53 AM

Very convenient, those hard drives crashing (if true) and multiple backups deleted.

You're wrong, but be my guest. I haven't been. " Nov 22, 17 9:56 AM

I think most would be interested in seeing verification where it was present and find the fact that where it does seem to have the opportunity to be present, the accuser through her attorney have place stipulations knowing full well what they are asking for would likely never happen. " Nov 22, 17 10:05 AM

Ho hum... where there is smoke there's fire. " Nov 22, 17 10:06 AM

The voters of Alabama will need to decide if an accused child molester is better than a Democrat and I like your optimism Fore." Nov 22, 17 10:55 AM

They know you think they're dumb too. They're not as dumb as you think. " Nov 22, 17 11:22 AM

Well Mr. Wallace, would you like to add in any additional stereotyping while you're at it? You're on a roll, the floor is all yours Mr. Wallace. " Nov 22, 17 1:46 PM

No, just simply stating your opinion of the people of Alabama and trying to back it up and dig out somewhat bigoted comments with stretch statistics. Trump was in Nevada when he said that, a state with the lowest graduation rate. BTW, New York's graduation rate isn't much better than Alabama, at 77%, so the stats don't really support your claim and you must not think too kindly on New Yorkers either. In reality, Alabama has fairly a fairly decent graduation rate. Keep digging. " Nov 23, 17 10:11 PM

75% HS graduation rate... Alabama vs. 77% New York. Nuff said.

You raised the issue with the colorful opinion, and now down the rabbit hole you go. Have fun down there. " Nov 24, 17 8:34 AM

It's less optimism, more personal opinion of 'Bamers. But when you call 'em dumb they just go to the polls in droves to prove it, so...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (586), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 22, 17 11:07 AM
" Nov 24, 17 8:38 AM

The statewide HS graduation rate (75%) says otherwise.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (586), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 22, 17 11:44 AM" Nov 24, 17 8:55 AM

So what you're saying is your opinion of "'Bamer's" is actually much less given the numbers might be lower. Good to know. Thanks. " Nov 24, 17 9:09 AM

Dual citizenship no doubt. " Nov 24, 17 2:36 PM

Noticeably absent is a confirmation or denial of your dual citizenship.
Disavow allegiances...good one. So to recap, you can still legally have dual citizenship. Well?

It's funny that the most ignorant people about Americans in general are the foreign born. " Nov 25, 17 11:58 AM

Please do define "earn it" and "just" born into it. Wow. The filing out of the paperwork linking you to another relative...and the waiting.... oh the waiting. Must have been horrendous. Oh, and the test... How did you survive it? All those who are legal are welcome to the US, but the attitude and sense of entitlement Geez.

The US has no official policy or laws on dual citizenship." Nov 26, 17 11:14 AM

I wonder what Hillary is doing today. Ahhh yes, coal. One of the Left's hot button issues. This isn't rocket science. The coal mine industry was decimated under Obama. So when it says "and federal safety officials say workers who are new to a mine have been especially vulnerable to fatal accidents", well no duh. 83,000 jobs and 400 mines were closed under Obama due to over regulation. Obama dug graves AND killed jobs.

Have a nice day Hillary." Nov 26, 17 11:32 AM

Steve Bannon To Attend Fundraiser For Representative Lee Zeldin In December

Need I remind you that there is STILL no evidence of WRONG DOING of any kind by the president.

Talking to the Russians...is not a crime. Directing to talk to the Russians (if it even took place)...not a crime.

What is the crime?" Dec 1, 17 11:56 AM

By and large T-fans want wrong doing investigated and charged in a fair and judicial manner where the evidence supports. We have unfortunately not seen that whether it be allegations against Hillary where preferential treatment was given nor with Trump, where there has been no evidence to support allegations let alone an investigation with no parameters. Had an investigation been conducted with a fraction of the vigor toward Hillary as Trump we'd have a whole lot more to talk about. Hell, let's even throw Obama into that equation. " Dec 1, 17 2:29 PM

Do you even read past the headline of your references June?

"The New York Times reports that telephone records and intercepted calls show that "members of Donald J. Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign and other Trump associates had repeated contacts with senior Russian intelligence officials in the year before the election."" Dec 1, 17 5:06 PM

The problem with JuneZ's banter is that it is dripping with emotion and normally she can't get past a particular point in an article that is later explained away in a later portion. See example above.

Like her post just above. While cute, it's seeking something that has yet to even be remotely substantiated in any way, shape or form. She's spewing nothing but emotion. In the case above, it is gleeful vitriol. " Dec 1, 17 5:11 PM

That's untrue JuneZ -l ong disproven. Both wars were paid for by emergency spending bills which are very common in such circumstances. I know "off the books" sounds better, but, that's not accurate. Why emergency spending bills? Because the budget process works in advance by two years; it wasn't possible given the immediate need. You can educate yourself at factcheck dot org, Obama’s Deficit Dodge. By Eugene KielyPosted on September 28, 2012. Most notably, Obama doesn't take credit for war spending, even though he continued the spending. " Dec 3, 17 4:29 PM

Show me the collusion... not what you want the collusion to be. None of the information so far indicates Manaforts pleadings have anything to do with the Trump Presidency. Same with Flynn.

So if there is collusion, why didn't Flynn's pleadings have anything to do with a conspiracy? Until it is shown to be different it would appear Flynn plead to a nothingburger because it was draining him and his family financially and emotionally and had NOTHING to do with Trump or the administration. " Dec 3, 17 4:40 PM

Ok, but all that emotion doesn't change the facts." Dec 3, 17 10:19 PM

"1. McCabe's wife takes $500k from Terry MacCaulife"

"It's unsupportable nonsense. Pure fantasy."

Terry McAuliffe's PAC donated to campaign of FBI official's wife.
By/ Julia Boccagno/ CBS News/ October 24, 2016, 1:01 PM

Unsupportable my you know what...

" Dec 4, 17 12:59 PM

One might ask why it was lightning speed...we still have zero evidence of collusion and the well is running dry. The witch hunt with no proof of collusion will now turn to bogus allegations of obstruction of justice and attempts for impeachment. It's a travesty of justice applauded only by the sore losers and insider establishment. And, they were far from "major convictions" given they have literally nothing to do with the Trump Presidency. " Dec 5, 17 7:29 AM

Oh Mr. Z, so sad. The email was written after taking office on December 26 and after Intelligence assessments indicated Russia did conduct low level activities toward the election - not by vote manipulation mind you, but by illuminating the dirty deeds and secrets of the Democratic National Committee. There is no linkage to actions of Russia prior to the election to that of the Trump administration discussing sanctions against Russia after the election and the statement by K.T. McFarland while explained as simply the Democratic viewpoint acknowledged what the intelligence community had already stated. " Dec 5, 17 7:51 AM

There it is...what the Left has wanted all along...impeachment. They will sleep better at night having been vindicated from a "stolen" election which really was a result of a crappy candidate having left a country further scarred and divided in the process after fully investigating... nothing...but with high hopes and gleeful anticipation of manufacturing something to sink their gnarly little teeth in and the end, victoriously state with pious vigor, "we told you so."
" Dec 5, 17 8:51 AM

Yeah, I get it. You ask a thousand different questions, dozens of different ways that you already know the answer to and compare it to documents that haven't been seen for God knows how long all while under oath....and you have an impeachment charge. Ask Michael Flynn how that works out.

Well Bravo. " Dec 5, 17 7:38 PM

Clickbait fake news...courtesy of Occupy Democrats. Since when does the State Department have anything to do with voting irregularities?

You're gonna need more tin foil. " Dec 5, 17 10:25 PM

LMFAO...

"When the FBI officially launched the investigation into Mrs. Clinton’s server, Andrew McCabe was running the bureau’s D.C. field office, which allocated resources and personnel to the email probe. It wasn’t until February 2016 that he became deputy director, however."" Dec 6, 17 8:47 AM

They were thinking "we didn't do anything wrong." Little did they realize the far reaching extent of the witch hunt and that it really was all along a coordinated effort to protect Hillary and impeach Donald Trump. " Dec 6, 17 3:11 PM

OF course Mueller's team is calm and collective...they think they're untouchable. Just like Capone before the ax came down on him. FOUR guilty pleas, and no Federal offenses = no pardons = one shiny turd you're polishing.

Explain away what? Your source does a really good job on its own... "Some interactions were straightforward, like a public handshake with the Russian ambassador." Contacts don't mean collusion. It's pretty simple...but then again, it's NEVER been about collusion...It's ALWAYS been about unseating a legitimately elected president.
" Dec 6, 17 11:26 PM

Did you even read the memo that was obtained from the Freedom of Information Request? No, you didn't. Had you read it, you'd see the stats you've quoted are from complaints contained in the DOJ correspondence log. That' the extent of it.... unsubstantiated complaints now posted on an Occupy Democrats click bait site claiming bipartisanship. Pathetic." Dec 6, 17 11:29 PM

No Hat, I LFMFAO in disgust at the bias of the Left when elements of their kind are protected and treated distinctly differently than those on the Right by what is supposed to be the premier law enforcement agency of the nation. Always look closely at what Leftists are accusing you of, there in lies the answer.

Blind to bias? How is McCabe different you ask? Well, other than clear evidence of at minimum the illusion of impropriety of one (McCabe) and lack of any evidence on the other (Trump), let me answer with three questions to which there are tons more. Why was Hillary never placed under oath during her very own investigation? Why were Obama staff who lied under oath during the Hillary investigation not prosecuted but yet Flynn was? Why did Comey draft a letter recommending no charges on Hillary, at the prompting of a Hillary supporter FBI agent who is now on the Mueller team mind you, before the investigation on Hillary was even complete?

Open your eyes. Left-Wingers are truly blind to THEIR bias." Dec 7, 17 8:25 AM

For the record, none of it has been shown to have anything to do with Trump. " Dec 7, 17 8:37 AM

What "Mueller chose?" Seriously? He charged Flynn with what he could - a low level offense far removed from the focus of the investigation that was deemed as insignificant by Comey. Mueller's team is made up of largely Democratic sympathizers.

You may think those who question the investigation to be KoolAid drinking clingers, but what we're clinging to is Justice. That which hasn't been applied and that which is over reaching. " Dec 7, 17 12:53 PM

"Federal charges" that you mentioned earlier, and now "plea bargain" are two different things. "No pardons" which you also mentioned has nothing to do with either. Most notable is what Flynn was NOT charged with and that is any acknowledgement of the scheme, aka...collusion. But we've come to learn it's NEVER been about Russia or collusion. That's a well play tactic fabricated by the Left. It's always been about removing a legitimately elected president." Dec 7, 17 3:49 PM

Back to recycling old posts eh Mr. Z. Classic...and desperate. The smart money is on 7 more years in the Oval Office for President Trump. If by some long shot that doesn't happen, it will be the result of a travesty of justice and a successful coup.

Think of it this way. Myself, DitchBum, 27 Dan, They Call me, Erin, Undocumented Democrat, joe hampton and a few others will be leading an investigation of you. There are no boundaries to the investigation. We will be looking into all your email, conversations, business dealings, taxes... you name it. IF we find a discrepancy in any of the information you've provided through those dealings, you will be subject to the full extent of the law. Wish us happy hunting. " Dec 7, 17 9:55 PM

Evidence? Please do tell hat... what is this evidence you speak of?What are these actions that make him "unfit for office.? That's so absurd it continues to be simply laughable. So far we've been told the President isn't even under investigation.

I made no reference to you specifically in my deleted post Hat, only what I don't engage in. How you or the fine editors interpret that is entirely on you." Dec 7, 17 10:03 PM

Uranium one is a non-starter and always has been because the FBI and the Obama DOJ simply wouldn't investigate it to the extent it involved the Clinton Crime Family. $144 million from special interests Clinton Fund prior to the Uranium One deal. Those who choose to turn a blind eye are free to do so, the others who know the stench of corruption when they see it will have their opinion. Yes, the foundation received money and Bill Clinton was paid to give a speech, but there’s no evidence the Clintons were paid by Russians to push through the uranium deal is exactly how the mob thrived for so many years. Placing la'yrs of deniability between themselves and the money. Someone had to pay for the $3 million Chelsee wedding. " Dec 7, 17 10:11 PM

"Can't pardon"....Well of course Trump can pardon. Flynn for example plead to a federal offense...lying to the FBI. What you are referring to is what COULD happen. Mueller’s charges and Flynn’s plea still leave open the POSSIBILITY of state charges, just in case Trump pardons Flynn federally. Prediction: Flynn will get pardoned and Mueller will be in no position to refile state charges.

That one came back to bite you, eh ZEinstein?" Dec 7, 17 10:22 PM

"Face it, Trump looks more guilty with every indictment."

Of what?" Dec 7, 17 10:52 PM

Still, not a crime but keep trying. " Dec 7, 17 11:02 PM

One very influential one and many others. It's the reason the Russians were bribing people and why they went deep into the pockets of the Clinton Foundation. " Dec 7, 17 11:12 PM

You mean obstruction of injustice. Interesting dynamic given Comey is a leaker and liar.
" Dec 7, 17 11:28 PM

Ho Hum Fore... you don't think Comey being a leaker and liar is relevant to a he said he said aimed at Trump?

You don't think $145 million in donations to the Clinton Foundation from elements close to the Uranium One deal is suspect, it's mis-accounting of those donations concerning, and especially suspect when donations plummet when she loses her political clout? All specifics mind you.

" Dec 8, 17 7:35 AM

Your deflection was even more precise. " Dec 8, 17 12:04 PM

Well well well...

ROY MOORE ACCUSER ADMITS SHE FORGED PART OF YEARBOOK INSCRIPTION ATTRIBUTED TO ALABAMA SENATE CANDIDATE.

Congratulations Mr. Senator. " Dec 8, 17 12:08 PM

...or to place it in crystal clear context, preferred to the Democrat alternative. " Dec 9, 17 7:07 PM

Yes, I liked that intentionally hat...you made my day!" Dec 12, 17 10:09 AM

Heads Dems win Tails Dems win. It's good to be a Democrat." Dec 12, 17 6:12 PM

..."while basely attacking the reputation of any honest person who brings them the truth after their inept efforts to discredit it predictably implode."

~ highhatsize" Dec 13, 17 7:36 AM

IMO they didn't believe it took place, or, didn't consider it relevant given it was 40 years ago.

Conversely, it's also been written here by anti-Mooreites that the good people of Alabama are essentially inbred idiots. " Dec 13, 17 9:03 AM

Let me translate that for you JuneZ...cuz I don't see any trends whatsoever...

Gillespie lost the governor race in what is arguably a Democratic state - Virginia - attempting to replace a Democrat held seat.

Strange lot to Moore in the primary....both Republicans, but before the allegations.

Moore was a flawed candidate, like Hillary.

Any desire to go back to the drawing board??


" Dec 13, 17 2:02 PM

Hmmm, maybe we should ask these folks? Clearly the same people who question Omarosa's role are the the same people who denounce Trump for being a racist in the face of results in the black community.

Since the election black unemployment rate has fallen a full percentage point, the labor force participation is up and the number of black Americans with a job has risen by 600,000. Job growth per month for blacks under Trump has been 40 percent higher than the monthly average under ‎Obama and the idea of better school options for the poor who are predominantly black children." Dec 13, 17 5:40 PM

As I understand it Mf, Omarosa was a liaison to the black community, bridging gaps if you will. Of course, that will be spun in another direction, but that is the crux of it....like it or not.

The only thing you're riding is the high from the drugs you're taking if you think Obama has ANYTHING to do with the current state of the economy. Consumer and business confidence alone goes a long LONG way and both the stock market and job creation is showing it.

So I've answered your question, now answer mine. What specific policies did Obama have in place to create this wave, one year into the Trump presidency? That momentum you speak of was stagnant for months before Obama left office. " Dec 13, 17 8:53 PM

And the guy who defended to the high heavens the ultimate gauge of the economy being the unemployment numbers chimes in. You don't get it both ways, and I'll gladly dig up your own words as a reminder.

The lowest unemployment rate in 17 years hat.... one year into the Trump administration." Dec 13, 17 8:57 PM

"So now...we should discount the unemployment rate, THE measure of workforce health for sixty years? Why should we do that?..."

~ highhatsize " Dec 14, 17 9:56 AM

Indeed I HAVE NOT....Come now hat, not once did I make statement not giving credit to the previous administration. I simply stated (paraphrasing) that the current administration deserves credit for the country getting to the 17 year low. The unemployment rate alone had flattened tot about 4.7% for months prior to Trump taking office. ONLY since then, has it been reenergized to get to drop to 4.1%...dropping consistently since Trump took office.





" Dec 14, 17 12:48 PM

We're not that lucky. " Dec 14, 17 2:45 PM

It sounds like that's how you interpreted it. After hovering on average around 4.9% for all of 2016 and in the 5's% for all of 2015 the unemployment rate is at 4.1%, the lowest in 17 years. I'm attributing that dip to the current administration, not NOT attributing it to the previous.

I suppose in true liberal fashion, everyone should get a medal?

" Dec 14, 17 8:32 PM

No need for irrelevant outbursts Z....You questioning the stagnant nature of "After hovering on average around 4.9% for all of 2016 and in the 5's% for all of 2015" or there was a "low hurdle" to overcome in showing improvement?

Wondering, because it's all very factual. Also wondering what role Obama had in said quantitative easing. Answer: None.

" Dec 14, 17 10:29 PM

Stick to the facts Z, your emotion gets the better of your argument thereby diminishing it." Dec 14, 17 10:37 PM

Thank you, hat for your opinion, as insignificant and meaningless as it is. " Dec 15, 17 11:14 AM

Which Republicans specifically? I see a Democratic and Republican president, dozens of Wall Street fat cats who contribute equally if not more to Democrats as Republicans, a Federal Reserve with mixed political representation and millions of the general public who mismanaged or misunderstood their loans who are non affiliated politically or Democrat, Republican and Independent. Heck, most officials did not see clear evidence of a broad crisis. They expected the economy to grow slowly in 2008 and then more quickly in 2009.*

If someone needs to deal with it, it is you Mr. Z...this was bigger than the "GOP."

*NY Times. Fed Misread Crisis in 2008, Records Show By BINYAMIN APPELBAUMFEB. 21, 2014



" Dec 15, 17 11:29 AM

Not so. "The Laffer curve is one of the main theoretical constructs of supply-side economics, the idea that lower tax rates when tax level is too high will actually boost government revenue because of higher economic growth. ... Its use connotes the ideas of economists Robert Mundell and Arthur Laffer" - Wikipedia. The subjective debatable issue is what constitutes "tax level is too high" and whether it's a "relatively strong economy." Some say yes given the unemployment rate, most say no given the stagnant GDP.


" Dec 16, 17 1:06 PM

That is, if the rock doesn't kill him." Dec 16, 17 1:09 PM

JuneZ, you stated, and I quote - "There is NO economic theory that supports doing it." I posted and CITED the source of an economic theory that supports "it". "It" being a "relatively strong economy." Like it or not, a strong economy is subjective as evident by lack luster GDP.
" Dec 16, 17 9:28 PM

Now it makes sense: Got ya' JuneZ. "So it's just yours truly who should be chastised for cutting and pasting?" If the shoe fits. If the shoe fits....

There Is No Economic Theory That Justifies the GOP Tax Plan
By Eric Levitz \. Daily Intelligencer.

" Dec 16, 17 9:50 PM

Ignoring being BUSTED for the stealing of ideas, huh? Very typical of Democrats these days, accuse others of what you are guilty of... Ok...

Budget surplus is NOT the same thing as what you originally stated....DEBT. BTW, Obama maintained 82% of the Bush tax cuts and included much more above the $250,000 income level as you state.**


**Budget Deal Makes Permanent 82 Percent of President Bush’s Tax Cuts JANUARY 3, 2013 BY CHYE-CHING HUANG


" Dec 16, 17 11:16 PM

Economic carnage.... and to a large degree, Trump was correct. The economy, while greatly improved, was seen to be able to do better.

To recap on your unrealistic Japan statement (LMAO), you're suggesting some of the strictest gun laws in existence that allows only shot guns. I can tell you first hand, you'll NEVER turn the US into Japan in that regard- and that's speaking culturally and giving kudos to Japan - a country with NONE of the problems the US has from a social level. That is the primary difference and I'd further suggest mass carnage could be done with shot guns, in case you didn't consider that possibility. Japanese law starts with the premise to forbid guns....as you know, that pesky 2nd Amendment is just the opposite.
" Dec 17, 17 11:18 AM

This should be entertaining, I mean, other than the false bravado. " Dec 17, 17 1:11 PM

Who said "Out of control spending"?

Who are you talking to?

Out does any of that relate, or are you just going with whoever puts the most words on paper, wins?" Dec 17, 17 2:29 PM

Good point Mf. The president wasn't "a sexual predator" before was candidate Trump. A billionaire surrounded by beautiful for years, and only when he becomes candidate Trump does it all bubble to the surface. It's amazing!!" Dec 17, 17 2:33 PM

Onegaishimasu.... That's Japanese for "please"....?

"I can pick and choose what programs that would help America?"



" Dec 17, 17 2:37 PM

SO ill informed....

According to the Social Security Administration website who addresses the question of "Which political party took Social Security from the independent trust fund and put it into the general fund so that Congress could spend it?" , and I quote, "There has never been any change in the way the Social Security program is financed or the way that Social Security payroll taxes are used by the federal government. The Social Security Trust Fund was created in 1939 as part of the Amendments enacted in that year. From its inception, the Trust Fund has always worked the same way. The Social Security Trust Fund has never been "put into the general fund of the government."

Most likely this question comes from a confusion between the financing of the Social Security program and the way the Social Security Trust Fund is treated in federal budget accounting. Starting in 1969 (due to action by the Johnson Administration in 1968) the transactions to the Trust Fund were included in what is known as the "unified budget." This means that every function of the federal government is included in a single budget. This is sometimes described by saying that the Social Security Trust Funds are "on-budget." This budget treatment of the Social Security Trust Fund continued until 1990 when the Trust Funds were again taken "off-budget." This means only that they are shown as a separate account in the federal budget. But whether the Trust Funds are "on-budget" or "off-budget" is primarily a question of accounting practices--it has no effect on the actual operations of the Trust Fund itself."*


*Debunking Some Internet Myths- Part 2. SSA dot gov" Dec 17, 17 2:43 PM

Nicely acknowledged loading. Humility goes a long way to showing true character. It happens, in this age we live.

It was recently pointed out to one of our Leftist friends that a statement he made regarding Social Security spending was incorrect, a variant of fake news if you will. The statement from the Social Security Administration specifically addressing his misinformation was provided to him. His response?, "It doesn't matter."

We're to believe the Left in their "infinite wisdom" doesn't fall for such misinformation; we know differently - they do. They just lack the capability to acknowledge it, see it for what it is, and most importantly, learn from it... preferring to turn a blind eye to their own shortcomings.


" Dec 18, 17 9:15 PM

Mr. Z: “Mr. Gimme All still supports those who …looted Social Security.”

(paraphrased) Mr. Z, that’s not correct, here is the SSA addressing that very issue.

Mr. Z: “It doesn't matter.”


" Dec 19, 17 7:53 AM

It doesn't matter!

Where have we heard that before??

" Dec 21, 17 9:18 AM

Thanks Captain Obvious. " Dec 21, 17 9:36 AM

It's a serious as Democrat Russia election collusion and fake dossier used to obtain a FISA warrant by biased Obama DoJ investigators." Dec 21, 17 10:01 AM

The vast number of people in law enforcement, government and intelligence are not conspiring. However, a number of high level officials in certain agencies have most definitely been shown to have been sullied by the Obama politicization of government agencies. " Dec 21, 17 11:10 AM

Who said it was?" Dec 21, 17 11:13 AM

Awww, and we were so waiting for a lesson in M1, M2 or M3... you know, the thing you incessantly reply with whenever gains in the stock market are celebrated. I'm still reveling in this, cuz you and the rest of the so called experts don't know squat!

Economists: A Trump win would tank the markets
If GOP nominee pulls off a Brexit-like surprise, Wall Street would face a Brexit-like stock plunge. By BEN WHITE 10/21/2016



" Dec 21, 17 10:25 PM

Awww, and we were so waiting for a lesson in M1, M2 or M3... you know, the thing you incessantly reply with whenever gains in the stock market are celebrated. I'm still reveling in this, cuz you and the rest of the so called experts don't know squat!

Economists: A Trump win would tank the markets
If GOP nominee pulls off a Brexit-like surprise, Wall Street would face a Brexit-like stock plunge. By BEN WHITE 10/21/2016



" Dec 21, 17 10:25 PM

Why are you asking me?

ok, fine....Uranium!

There were three sides to blame for the events at Charlottsville.... in this order 1) Antifa and associated anarchists who came for a fight, 2) Democrat state "leadership" who was ill prepared and 3) the KKK while at fault, were permitted to be there.
" Dec 21, 17 10:45 PM

Let have realistic expectations. Spending IS out of control." Dec 21, 17 10:48 PM

Well don't infer. That's your mistake. " Dec 21, 17 11:05 PM

Good. Investigate everyone. Root out wrongdoing. Sunlight is the best disinfectant.

Most importantly: let Mueller do his job.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (696), HAMPTON BAYS on Dec 21, 17 9:35 AM

You just contradicted yourself." Dec 22, 17 12:03 PM

Given what we have learned about the politically partisan investigators, not from Mueller himself, but from the Office of Inspector General, it's what I'm afraid we WON'T learn...and it has absolutely NOTHING to do with the fabricated "Russian Collusion" investigation aimed at unseating a duly elected President.

The only evidence of Russian Collusion we've seen involves the Democrats, payments of millions of dollars, a former British spy, high levels of the Russian government, and the likely use of that information by none other than a biased investigator to manufacture the very basis for an investigation of the President.

" Dec 26, 17 9:54 AM

To no fault of the Trump administration.

What, afraid of what we don't know about collusion by the Clinton campaign and very likely members of the Mueller investigation to use Russian provided support to influence an election?" Dec 26, 17 10:30 AM

....And let's be clear as to what the intelligence agencies say took place. Allegedly Russian hacked into the Democratic National Committee email and uncovered countless dirty little secrets committed by Democrats to create disinformation.

We KNOW for a fact Democrats did their own version of disinformation through the funding of the fake dossier, that was then likely used as the BASIS for a FISA warrant and investigation on the Trump administration - written likely by no other than politically biased FBI investigators who have been shown to be in the tank for Hillary and subversive toward a duly elected President." Dec 26, 17 11:06 AM

Well there you go, that's easier than I thought...and so official. No collusion on the part of the Trump campaign noted.

As far as the dossier, Corroborated? Good Lord...LMAO. I'm embarrassed for you that you think conversations between foreign nationals has any weight, bearing or linkage to the Trump campaign - let alone....GASP....corroboration. One needs only to ask.... corroboration of what? The answer is it proves that we intercepted conversations that the Democratic National Committee paid to put on paper through nefarious means. I hope they got their $12 million moneys worth. " Dec 26, 17 3:34 PM

Well, the way Leftists want to censor and demolish art and history, there are days when you have wonder. ISIS got pretty good at it. " Dec 26, 17 3:55 PM

...but not with the people wanting to infringe on their First Amendment right to state their opinion to do so (assuming that's even true...) and do so in a violent manner?" Dec 26, 17 4:01 PM

It certainly wasn't that property damage is a justification for deadly force. Both sides were to blame is crystal clear. " Dec 26, 17 4:08 PM

Yeah, right. And if you showed up with the genuine intention to protest the protests, you left when antifa showed with the shields, bats and pepper spray.

You should be embarrassed you haven't educated yourself about the counter protests. Just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it doesn't exist, you know. The video, feces filled coolers, and fact that if you support the President - you're fascist...speaks for itself. Don't forget...the only good fascist is a dead one!" Dec 26, 17 11:03 PM

Perkins Coie was paid $12.4 million to represent the Clinton campaign and the D.N.C. during the 2016 campaign, according to filings. Perkin-Coie was hired by the DNC and used as the go between with Fusion GPS, the former British spy for the dossier. Attorney client privilege doesn't come cheap." Dec 26, 17 11:14 PM

"God, Hillary should win 100,000,000 – 0,”

~FBI Agent Peter Strzok " Dec 27, 17 11:44 AM

Anytime someone starts a sentence with "honestly", everything else that comes after it, is a lie. Are we to believe, any other time, you're not being honest?

But I do like the analogy of Hillary to a dumpster. " Dec 27, 17 11:50 AM

I'm not condoning any inappropriate activity by any one individual, but you are selectively ignoring the actions and instigation took place as a whole. " Dec 27, 17 11:56 AM

Google... " Dec 27, 17 11:59 AM

I'm saying an active player in the Democrat influence of an election involving Russian collusion was payed handsomely and those payments ensured secrecy through attorney-client privilege.

Am I understanding you correctly, since the information of money that was exchanged and become publicly available is a lesser amount, the act of Russian collusion itself is any less egregious? " Dec 27, 17 12:26 PM

Don't assume what I presume but clearly your entertainment is paramount and it can't be said that you don't have your priorities as facetious as you would like us to not believe." Dec 27, 17 4:10 PM

I trust you'll figure it out if you so desire. It ain't rocket science even for a Democrat, considering there was violence and at least two opposing groups, one of which was Antifa. " Dec 27, 17 4:13 PM

This was no "opposition research" and you know it. It was an attempt to smear a presidential candidate and using Russian information to do so. From there, it only gets potentially worse if that information was used as the basis for the current investigation.

So are you a admitting it was no less egregious? The evidence of foul play is what the country deserves to have investigated in the name of justice given the tainted nature of Mueller's investigators and for that matter, the investigation." Dec 27, 17 4:19 PM

#13 AVOID GIVING EVIDENCE UNDER OATH.

Why didn't the FBI take Hillary's statement under oath?" Dec 28, 17 7:08 AM

June, 2017... seriously Mr. Z? Did you just wake from a coma and feel the need to pull something out of Leftist field? I love these "you're worse than they are" analogies...it shows the sheer lunacy of the Left, like it's a score to a sporting event and especially love the boogity boogity boogity inference to "Far Right" as if, all on the Right are far and "worthy" of White Supremist label. " Dec 28, 17 7:23 AM

ISIS is a by product of the vacuum created by Obama foreign policy try as you will to deflect. " Dec 28, 17 7:30 AM

Move that goal post much?" Dec 28, 17 7:31 AM

The hell they weren't. The counter protestors most certainly WERE assaulting people at Charlottsville. Are you intentionally IGNORING the video????

Why is it that you think certain forms of assault are unacceptable, but completely IGNORE abhorrent behavior that is equally assaultive and deadly...clubs and bats for example?? Are you saying that of the countless thousands of counter-protestors, not ONE used deadly force with their bats or other objects in an aggressive manner? They were ALL defending themselves??

" Dec 28, 17 8:05 AM

"The takeaway is that violent Right-Wing lunatics and Islamic terrorists are sisters under the skin."

Good God hat - while you're picking apart a STATEMENT...you miss the POINT. Ok, I'll acquiesce for discussion sake because it would seem only the Lunatic Left wants to keep score of hate. What exactly is your point? Clearly, the violent Right-Wing, Islamic Terrorists...and GASP... the violent Left-Wing are all hate filled morons. Does it give you warm tingles to equate elements of hate by the use of "Right-wing", is that it? " Dec 28, 17 12:49 PM

If it were a family tree Fore, selling them weapons 25 years ago (LOL) would be considered a distant cousin who only comes to visit when they want something. What Obama did would be the equivalent of a kissing cousin who you see once a year, maybe on Thanksgiving. " Dec 28, 17 12:56 PM

Bull! Mr. I used to be in law enforcement doesn't think striking people with clubs is deadly force?" Dec 28, 17 1:00 PM

I love the movie Dumb and Dumber...

It started as opposition research. It didn't end as opposition research.

"most of which have been collaborated, are true."... the only thing corroborated is conversation between Russian foreign nationals. " Dec 28, 17 1:04 PM


<--- note the 2x4 with the nails in it, carried by your heroes. " Dec 28, 17 1:16 PM

I see the problem. You have no idea what deadly force is. " Dec 28, 17 1:19 PM

You bore the crap out of me hat. If you think I'm going to debate your misstatements of what I wrote and my mind set and intent of doing so or your warped perception of "the Right", you're loonier than I give you credit for.

Happy New Year!" Dec 29, 17 9:27 AM

Sure there are facts, and your's are incorrect. So, you're saying the Left doesn't have violent elements?" Dec 29, 17 9:30 AM

All that is good. Obama is responsible for.

All that is bad...it is the fault of Republicans.

It is good to be a Democrat. " Dec 29, 17 9:34 AM

You mean other than carrying and using clubs? " Dec 29, 17 9:36 AM

Anything that drives establishment Washington and especially the Looney Left this crazy HAS to be Bigly Awesome!" Dec 29, 17 2:53 PM

Yeah, they'll find some way in...." Dec 29, 17 2:54 PM

Look again, for the swinging of the bats and clubs. " Dec 29, 17 4:03 PM

Exactly bigfresh!!

When you enter illegally you should not be rewarded with citizenship." Dec 29, 17 5:29 PM

I get it. You have nothing to offer of substance and instead resort to petty typographical errors. Pathetic!" Jan 2, 18 3:42 AM

Ah yes... the ever so moveable goal post..." Jan 2, 18 3:43 AM

Fore, you can repeat it all you like but it doesn't change the videography facts. The video readily available on multiple Youtube videos speaks for itself. Beyond that, anyone with half a brain can decipher that two hate filled opposing forces armed with clubs, bats and whatever else... will inevitably be on the offensive at any given point. Duh?
" Jan 2, 18 3:50 AM

I for one don't think you do understand the position. There should never be in place incentives to break the law and breaking the law should never have de facto rewards. " Jan 2, 18 1:28 PM

Then why are Leftists Hell bent on restoring their voting rights? Oh, right...the compassionate party.... Yeah, sure..." Jan 2, 18 1:31 PM

LOL...May 2017. LMAO..."Alleged"....

Nuff said. " Jan 3, 18 9:23 PM

Answers you want to hear or would like? Probably not. " Jan 3, 18 9:27 PM

Fore, you can selectively choose isolated examples to sensationalize what transpired that day all you like. It doesn't change what transpired that day on a grander scale.

It is sad. Sad you can't see the trees for the forest with two hate filled groups, each by and large equally armed and equally hate filled,beating the crap out of each other. If you think it's of value to to defend groups blocking the streets from groups marching in the streets or even who made the first blow(of countless encounters mind you), have at it my boy. " Jan 3, 18 9:39 PM

For a guy who didn't want the job he had a heck of a great WIN and a FANTASTIC first year on-the-job!!

He even seems to be enjoying himself." Jan 3, 18 11:22 PM

The same; pro-green card without full citizenship. They entered illegally and should not be rewarded with arguably the most sought after status on the planet. If you're fishing for a hook to mass deportation, fish elsewhere.

" Jan 3, 18 11:42 PM

No. I base that on what reports have indicated, video and eye witness accounts.

One hate does not Trump another. " Jan 3, 18 11:44 PM

Democrat and DNC manipulation of the primary process aside, of course. " Jan 4, 18 1:02 AM

Technicality how? As Snopes details...

A civil suit against Donald Trump alleging he raped a 13-year-old girl was dismissed in California in May 2016, refiled in New York in June 2016, and dropped again in November 2016.

And he was duly elected President.

" Jan 4, 18 1:09 AM

Just ask Al Franken," Jan 4, 18 11:01 AM

Illegal activity should not be rewarded with citizenship in any capacity. That said, the reality is many can not be returned to their country of origin, but children of illegals should not be IMMEDIATELY rewarded with citizenship, even if born in the US. I'm lukewarm to a long term pathway to citizenship for decedents of illegals...but NOT immediate citizenship.

Think of the principals of the Clean Hands Doctrine, only in this case, the US is the defendant, and the illegals are the plaintiff. They should not be "rewarded" in significant fashion for illegal activity. I think you'll find even that policy is much more accomodating than pretty much any other country. " Jan 4, 18 11:18 AM

^^^^^^

How can stupid be a problem when everyone around me.... oh never mind.

VVVVV

" Jan 4, 18 1:02 PM

That easy. All easily solvable by thinking it through to those who are following prescribed law. Whatever that benchmark is (to gain citizenship for those who were NOT born in the country), you make it that..."plus one" - or just as difficult to earn citizenship. "Plus one" being a penalty that raises the threshold to earn citizenship. We should NOT in any way encourage violation of our laws.

If they violate the terms of the green card then clearly they have not earned citizenship. There isn't much to maintaining Green Card status other than things that make you worthy of citizenship, like filing tax returns, and other basic administrative tasks...oh, and not committing a crime. IF they were to not fulfill any of the lesser requirements, they are subject to the minimum benchmark standard... plus two (see that pattern here??). If they commit a crime, they maintain the benchmark, but plus three...and they do the time. Deportation is a non-issue.

" Jan 8, 18 7:46 AM

African American unemployment is the lowest ever recorded in our country. The Hispanic unemployment rate dropped a full point in the last year and is close to the lowest in recorded history. Dems did nothing for you but get your vote!

~ The Donald" Jan 8, 18 10:44 AM

And the Left wonders why the Right continues to bring up Hillary.

You go fishing often enough and to enough fishing holes, you're bound to catch something. Even if it wasn't what you were hoping to catch

The point is, you actually HAVE to go fishing.

Trump 4
Hillary 0

Indeed....



" Jan 8, 18 6:09 PM

Oprah is nothing more than a coward and misandrist. She accepted an award surrounded by Hollywood victims and predators and rather than calling out Hollywood for what it is, she pandered to the media attacking men as a whole talking about Jim Crow rather than the Harvey Weinsteins she rubbed elbows with. And right on cue, the victims and predators jump to applause in phony deceit of the woman who walked arm in arm with Harvey Weinstein and likely was complicit in attacks. Truly pathetic. " Jan 8, 18 6:31 PM

Uh, Fore, you do realize Obama who I am sure you voted for if you were legally entitled to, had associates who were convicted criminals?

Uh, Fore, you do realize Hillary who I am certain you voted for, had associates who were convicted criminals?" Jan 8, 18 7:42 PM

It's not difficult Fore unless you just don't want to acknowledge the simplicity. The pathway for those who are benefactors of illegal activity is a threshold beyond that which is being sought by those who are not the benefactors of illegal activity.

In simple terms, you remove the incentive for coming to the country illegally. "An American-born child walk around without ANY citizenship or nationality until" is NOT what I wrote. Their status would be a new class of Legal Permanent Residents of the United States who could NOT be deported." Jan 8, 18 7:51 PM

Hehe..hehe...hehe you said penius genius...

" Jan 8, 18 8:10 PM

The problem Fore, is you're not really listening.

Come now...If you think I'm going to spoon feed you policy specifics to your "21 questions" (we've been down this road before when you don't like an answer), you're out of your f'n mind. You wanted to know what the policy would look like...so it was provided. But yes, "is it a monetary fine? A time period that must pass? Community service?" All possibilities, but whatever that is, it's not a track that is lesser to that of those that have not been benefactors to illegal activity.

It makes COMPLETE sense to lay this foundation at the feet of a not-guilt free-foreign born adult.

What is this BS punishment you speak of?" Jan 8, 18 9:25 PM

We're a long way from "I understand your position, but how far does it extend?" now aren't we??" Jan 9, 18 1:04 AM

Fact is, you have no idea what you're talking about and have no interest in views that are counter to your own.

Your clarifying questions are designed to get into minutia that no one at our level can possibly answer, but, in the interest of discussion, I have entertained.

I have provided a conceptual framework to the question, "Path to full citizenship for the dreamers or no?" I'll answer it one more time as directly as I have previously without the background to the framework... "no."

" Jan 9, 18 10:09 AM

Bravo, you get it. Well done! Told you it was easy.

How is it fair that anyone applying for citizenship isn't immediately granted it when they have committed no crime?

As I said earlier, those who want immigration reform (whatever the hell that is - how about enforcing the current laws??) should be careful what they ask for.





" Jan 9, 18 10:26 AM

What part of a new classification do you not understand for those here under illegal circumstances - one that has all the benefits of LPR status, but isn't USC? All the benefit of an LPR and some of the benefits of a USC?

They didn't agree to anything because they are children brought here illegally. Amnesty and chain migration much end." Jan 9, 18 10:38 AM

Again, I understand... two issues... dreamers and those born here after parents came illegally.

No difference - both the product of illegal activity. Eh mate?" Jan 9, 18 10:52 AM

Fore, on Jan 3, 9:02 p.m. you asked for my view, did you not?

On Jan 2, at 7:30 p.m., you wrote, "I'll reroute my questions to you, Po: do you have the answers?"

So when I give my view, and the answers - that would involve reform, you piously ask if I understand whey other people might feel different. Of course, it's an emotional discussion. But illegal activity of ANY KIND should NOT be rewarded in any fashion. That mind set that have evolved over 40 years is why we have an illegal migration crisis. " Jan 9, 18 11:59 AM

With no political experience at all, Trump beat 16 other Republican candidates and two Democratic candidates, overcoming insurmountable odds. He continues to shake up Washington establishment and truly is Making American Great Again.

That IS genius." Jan 9, 18 12:15 PM

I didn't and you know I didn't. But the age of consent and adulthood is clearly established. So let's say, at 18, they could apply for citizenship at, say, year 6 - a year more (or longer?) than the standard for a law abiding LPR who is applying... and they would be subject to the standard LPR standards to earn citizenship.

Presto...they are an American citizen, but they should not be the benefactors of illegal activity.

" Jan 9, 18 1:40 PM

The FBI acted stupidly." Jan 9, 18 1:44 PM

Democrats are so predictable." Jan 9, 18 1:45 PM

New Offshore Drilling Proposal Could Hit Close To Home; Zeldin Voices Opposition

Evil oil....or not a viable alternative... We don’t have the capability of growing that much cannabis. When we are talking about worldwide production of 96 million barrels of crude oil per DAY, it just isn’t possible to grow and refine that much of a crop. The other factor is that we make an incredible variety of products from crude oil. Many of them are not compatible with production from cannabis." Jan 10, 18 7:31 AM

Steve Bannon To Attend Fundraiser For Representative Lee Zeldin In December

Oospsie indeed, and not really news or the gotcha moment you're hoping for - more like same ol' politics. I'm wondering how this is different than the cases the Supreme Court is currently hearing on accusations of gerrymandering by Democrats in Maryland and Republicans in Wisconsin? The GOP in NC who have said it was done primarily to keep voting precincts in tact, will likely appeal to the Supreme Court, so, the NC decision is far from over. Just to note, the Supreme Court has NEVER thrown out a state’s redistricting efforts due to alleged partisan gerrymandering.

BTW, what's the difference in this and other ways votes are devalued?" Jan 10, 18 7:57 AM

Yes, that's right Fore, you're the master manipulator.... "but it was useful in getting you to talk specifics!" Good Lord you think highly of yourself.

Can a US born child born of an illegal petition for themselves? Would the 6 year old have any sort of criminal record that would negate citizenship in similar fashion to a typical LOR? Think Fore. Your answer lies within.

" Jan 10, 18 8:12 AM

New Offshore Drilling Proposal Could Hit Close To Home; Zeldin Voices Opposition

Does drilling in South Dakota offer the same risks as offshore drilling? It does not. It sounds like you're simply against drilling of any kind. You are free to turn in the keys to your Ford Pinto, just make sure you ride your bicycle with traffic, but riding on Main Street and Jobs Lane is forbidden. " Jan 10, 18 9:15 AM

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