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Medical examiner says Reister could have recovered if chokehold had been released in time

Don't waste your time with INS, Sems. He cares not for either the Reister family, or Oddone. He's more interested in using this case as a platform to vent his anger (disguised as opinion) at the "injustices" he feels.. in his own life, perhaps? (citing his own 'experiences', which cleary are not comparable to this case, introducing a "race card" as an "alternative perspective", etc..) It seems to me that this is mere entertainment of sorts for INS, as well as a venue to spout his issues with society. (his "us against them" attitude towards law enforcement is glaringly obvious, and quite immature, in my opinion) The fact that Mr. Reister was a corrrections officer does not make him any less a victim, no matter how INS tries to justify it. He claims to not excuse Oddone for his actions- yet he defends him- even blames the victim, because Oddone was "shoved". As if choking someone to death is a reasonable response to being "shoved". If INS really and truly feels this way, then please don't bother to try and reason with him, for he is just as wayward in judgment as Oddone apparently was on that tragic night. Please do not indulge this angry man even further. The Reister family deserves better. " Nov 18, 09 8:06 PM

Prosecution rests, defense case opens in Oddone trial

What looks like "a slam dunk" right now? Your comment is grammatically and structurally atrocious. Really, what is your question? Or point? The articles have clearly stated that the DA was going for Murder 2, under the subsection defining Intent. The District Attorney's job therefore was to prove the elements of said charge. Oddone was indicted on both that charge, AND Murder 2 as defined by the subsection Depraved Indifference...or as you refer to it "depraved indifference homicide". The DA chose Intent, because she had to chose one. Personally, I feel Murder 2 depraved indifference suits this case to a tee. It's still murder, still a class A felony, still gets him 25 to life. It has been reported that Manslaughter in the first will be introduced as an alternative verdict for the jury to decide ...yet after the "28 some odd" graphic witnesses, photos, police and expert testimony, I cannot see how that downgrade can even be considered, even by the most "liberal" of jurors. Yes, contrary to your "slam dunk" theory, I think Ms. Merrifield's case of Intent was a lot stronger than many a Big Tone fan would want to admit.

But go ahead and be "dubious". I'm sure you haven't been reading the articles thoroughly enough because you've actually been sitting through the trial ever day, in person, right? " Nov 20, 09 6:43 PM

Judge dismisses juror in Oddone trial

I'll address the article. I feel bad for the dismissed juror. He is 70 years old; that is a lot of life experience to bring to the (jury) table. He feels disappointed in himself, yet he isn't clear on what he did wrong. I feel he did nothing wrong. He said he didn't read the articles, that his wife knows more about the case than he does because SHE cuts out the articles. After each member of the jury was interviewed by the judge, the "rat" juror (for lack of a better word) was the only person who supposedly overheard him say he has "already decided on Oddone's guilt". Yet I digress; I understand why Judge Hinrichs played it safe and dismissed him. Heaven forbid the defense tried to use said juror as an excuse for mistrial. Imagine having to gather an entirely new jury, and produce all 30 prosecution witness again? The family of Andrew Reister have been through enough. So while I feel for the excused juror (and hope he realizes he is NOT at fault!), I thank goodness for Alternates. " Nov 20, 09 6:57 PM

Prosecution rests, defense case opens in Oddone trial

Actually, Lowenbrau, if YOU were informed by more than just "reading the articles", then you would know that the articles are certainly not "fictitious and one sided". Sure, either side can read them, and pick out pieces they feel are biased towards the defense (or the prosecution) at certain points, but I assure you, the information reported as to what was testified in the courtroom is accurate. As for your question: "Do some here actually feel they have some special knowledge of, or proprietary interest in, this trail?", I'm sure most people who are commenting every day DO either have an interest in, or a knowledge of this case. What of it? Why does that bother you so much? I myself find it hard to believe you were there that night, but care not if you insist you were. Maybe you'll even testify? I guess we'll know who you are by the fact that you're the only one who'll say the choking lasted only 25 seconds? ;)

PS, at the risk of sounding childish, I hit the like button of your post by mistake.
" Nov 21, 09 12:31 PM

Lowenbrau, pardon the second half of my post, for it was Mr. Wheeler's question that I was referring to.

I'll still be looking out for the 25 second witness, however. " Nov 21, 09 12:42 PM

Oddone trial nears conclusion; defense witness challenged

HB 4 life didn't say "Only medical examiners from Suffolk are experts", or that he or she was board certified....so why so defensive? Surely the residents of this county who are keeping track of this case would logically question why Ms. Kedia would have to go allll the way to Michigan to find a "qualified" expert witness. Could his reputation have played a bigger part in her selection than his alleged "expertise"? Me thinks so. Tis my right to think so. And look at that- I expressed my opinion without getting nasty or calling anyone "ignorant". " Nov 24, 09 4:09 PM

Medical examiner says Reister could have recovered if chokehold had been released in time

"Premeditation" had absolutely nothing to do with the prosecutions case. Intent is their case to prove. Manslaughter 2?? You'll not even concede Manslaughter 1- whereas the "intent" was to at least cause serious physical injury? Unfortunately, and obviously, people need not be educated to comment on the loss of someones life. Perhaps if it were your loved one who was killed, you would not be so quick to dole out a measly "reckless" (manslaughter "2") excuse for their death. Just saying." Nov 24, 09 4:18 PM

Oddone trial nears conclusion; defense witness challenged

"It s apparent". Oh is it? Did I miss something somewhere? I think what is "apparent" is that you probably aren't an NYUlawAlum at all. ;)

Nice try though. " Nov 25, 09 11:34 AM

"I'll even risk using the word "apparent" and opening myself up to an ad hominem attack by maryb123"....don't be afraid of me Frank, just because I challenge your thoughts (and your grammar.) As far as you prediction of Oddone's conviction, I am well aware that things may turn out exactly that way. But you never know, do you. " Nov 25, 09 2:22 PM

Oddone won't take stand; both sides rest, and closing arguments slated Tuesday

All this talk about "extreme aggression" and a "struggle"...the 'struggle' was a mere shove, and the extreme aggression came from Oddone when he placed the deadly choke hold on Reister, as his back was TURNED. How, pray tell, is that "self defense"?? I have waited until the testimony was complete to bring up another very important question: Why hasn't any report or article commented on Oddone's demeanor in court? Did he not cringe when they showed the photo's of Andrew Reister? Did he show any emotion at ALL during this trial? The answer is NO. He is an angry animal with a baby face. He had a past history of a bar brawl in which he broke a bottle over someone's head. Ticking time bomb. I'm sure the jury noticed his callous indifference during all 30 witness testimonies. The fool STILL thinks he did nothing wrong. He thinks all the wrong was done to him. Under the caddie-next-door facade, an image of Oddone that all those "Bridge" fools try to push and shove upon us, (and why I'll will just never understand) is a sociopath. If it wasn't Reister, it would have been someone else. Oddone needs to pay for what he has done, with hard prison time. If he doesn't want to accept that fact or cannot learn to take responsibility for his actions, his jail time will be that much tougher for him. Repent." Nov 25, 09 10:25 PM

Andrew was never "on top" of him. Sounds good to you, I'm sure, and "justifiable", but it is total BS. As far as the "unexpected" part goes, what did Tony "expect" after he deliberately disobeyed staff's orders to get down off the table, and telling the staff "F*ck You". What *did* he expect? A jee golly young sir, please continue to disobey rules of the establishment, act like a jackass, and cuss out the employee's all you wish...I'll just walk away because you might choke me to death if I do my job? HA. The "past 15 months" have not evolved "Tony" into someone who has thought anything through. He has slipped into oblivion somehwere in Queens, no one knows or cares what he did there- he has just about as much freedom as an (excuse for) a jail can provide. He has not been affected by his expreience there. He is whiny. He thinks he did nothing wrong. Even if one can fairly place blame on both men to some degree, Oddone would not see it that way, ever, at all. People like him are the very reason we have prison's- to hold within those who cannot adjust to society, those who cannot and refuse to accept responsibility for their wrongdoings. Those who will not conform to simple rules we ALL must follow in order to live peacefully amongst one another. Don't kill people. That's a pretty important one. You can spin your excuses all you want, but no words YOU post here will reflect the reality of today, let alone what happened 15 months ago. " Nov 27, 09 12:55 PM

Oddone trial nears conclusion; defense witness challenged

Clearly you have some serious issues with corrections officers. Had a bad experience due to some criminal activity yourself? Surely you are talking from personal experience. Must have been a bad one if you must resort to taking shots at a deceased man's children. Why don't you just vent your childish anger elsewhere, considering Andrew Reister was the polar opposite of the unflattering stereotypical image of Corrections Officers that you are hell bent on portraying all over this site. " Nov 27, 09 1:37 PM

Oddone won't take stand; both sides rest, and closing arguments slated Tuesday

Fine, you want to insist that Andrew "broke the rules" too- go ahead. He still DIDN'T KILL ANYONE. The lengths some of you will go to absolve Oddone of his deadly actions is amazing. I've never seen such blind ignorance. How can we put into words that your kind will understand...hmm...Ok maybe if Oddone had "followed the rules", he could have went on his pissypants way that night without attacking a man from behind, and maybe sued the Publick House the next day because their bouncer shoved him and didn't follow the rules. Wouldn't that have been nice. Amazing how some who post here exchange one action for another (shove for death) as tit for tat. Karma is a b*tch they say." Nov 27, 09 5:08 PM

You are absolutely absurd. As if the "policy" has anything to do with a man losing his life. Explain to me the relevance. You claim you do not justify Oddone's actions, yet you repeatedly post statements such as "If he hadn't put his hands on Oddone none of this would have happened." No, maybe in your hateful world, Oddone choking Reister was the outcome to be expected. Those of us who recognize the severity of Oddone's unreasonable and heinous reaction know that he easily could have called the police himself and filed a complaint against Andy and or the Publick House if he felt his rights and/or his person were being violated. Wouldn't that be nice- both men would be alive today. Andrew Reister did not kill anyone that night, no matter how culpable you try to make him. Oddone did kill someone. BIG difference. " Nov 27, 09 6:09 PM

Can't say any of my friends have murdered anyone either. I happen to know plently who have been in bar fights, with worse done to them than a shove off a low "table". Nope- they didn't kill anyone either! How bout that? I guess you'd have to be a Bridge club member to understand it all. Makes you wonder what's "in it" for them, the two men footing all Oddone's legal fee's. They felt strongly about anonymity, yet the Post sure did "out" them. " Nov 27, 09 6:14 PM

How is that in "Andy's defense"? Are you putting the deceased on trial now? Pretty low of you. I'm sure if he had drank one drop one night, it would have come out. Oddone can't even blame alcohol for *his* actions, and he murdered someone. And here you are, trying to smear the victim's name. Your desperation is showing. " Nov 27, 09 6:18 PM

Andrew Reister is dead because Anthony Oddone chose to kill him. He did not choose to go to the manager of the Publick House to complain about the employee who shoved him. He did not call the police to complain about being "assaulted". He did not stop to ask why ladies were permitted to dance on tables and men were not. He chose to choke a man to death, and he will pay for it. How smug will you feel then? ;)" Nov 27, 09 8:20 PM

Maybe, but they're not in jail for murder. I guess that's the difference between us, and you and Oddone. You two don't know how to stay out of jail.

" Nov 27, 09 9:56 PM

He "bears" nothing. He is arrogant, whiny, and without remorse. Even if he was (he wasn't) justified, he should at the very least feel bad that a person lost his life. He does not feel bad. I defy you to prove otherwise. The scary part is not that he won't pay, because he will. The scary part is that there are a handful of people who actually think the same way he does, who will be free amongst us. " Nov 28, 09 12:21 PM

You keep wondering there, mama Oddone. You MUST be his mother. Only a mother can be so blind and ignorant towards their child's faults. I guess ignorance hasn't gotten you anywhere, so you're resorting to cheap shots on the dead person and his children now? Because your child is a POS? " Nov 28, 09 12:24 PM

They won't answer you. Fix-it and INS just keep spewing the same crap like broken records. When they feel their argument is drowning, they post something insulting towards the victim. Ignore them- judgement day for Oddone is almost here. I take solace in the fact that these ignorant, shameless supporters of a murderer will suffer too, when the hammer of justice comes down.

" Nov 28, 09 1:22 PM

You don't know that, Wheeler. You don't know what is or isn't there. If you shoved someone, and they in turn choked you to death for it, would you wish so hard for intent not to be there? Why don't you quit worrying about my eloquence and work on your cocky indifference instead. Thanks in advance. " Nov 28, 09 10:06 PM

Wow, that was so enlightening, thanks.


Duh." Nov 28, 09 10:15 PM

Saying "f**k you" to the bar employee when told to step down off the table constitutes aggresion. A challenge. Too bad Andrew *didn't* assault him at that point, maybe he'd be alive today if he'd have given Oddone the asskicking he deserved, instead of a little shove." Nov 28, 09 10:18 PM

Oddone' s blood was taken. He wasn't drunk. His attorney has made it a point to specifically state that he was not drunk. Roid rage due to watching too many UFC fights on t.v. would be my bet. He was taking mixed martial arts classes ("ooh I can do the choke hold!") Angry little boy is going DOWN. In more ways than one. ;)" Nov 28, 09 10:23 PM

Andrew should have kicked his @ss in. He was being kind with a shove, and made the mistake of turning his back on a cheap-shot animal. Had he took care of Oddone and thrown his belligerent behind out of the bar straight away, what's the worst that would be happening right now? He'd try to get his Bridge club boyfriends to sue the Publick House cause they hurt his little feelings and stepped on his arrogance? Perhaps Andrew's kindness, not his aggression, is what got him hurt that night. Oddone won't have the same luck anymore, you can count on that. " Nov 28, 09 10:27 PM

LOL I disgrace nothing, as I don't believe Andrew was at fault, like you do. You have a problem with law enforcement though; we've already established that. Your issues are so deep rooted that you vehemently defend a murderer on this website each and every day. Smart readers will pick up on the fact that you don't care one bit about what happens to Anthony Oddone, you're just using his case as an outlet to express your "damn the man", "the criminal is the victim" mentality. Don't you know that the educated amongst us here know that you probably belong in a cell just like Oddone does? I'm sure it's only a matter of time. : )

But back to the case at hand...The irony is- in a short time, out of the cradle of Rikers, Oddone will be praying to have a Corrections Officer like Andrew Reister in his midst. Praying. Irony. Indeed. " Nov 29, 09 11:58 AM

Amen.

Isn't it ironic, how soon Anthony Oddone will be wishing the Correction Officers around him were more like Andrew Reister. Have fun upstate kid. " Nov 29, 09 12:03 PM

Andrew was working within the capacity of his job description. There was no need for him to call the cops. Oddone was not hurt. He was not fighting for his life. Deadly physical force is justifiable only when your life is in danger. HE should have called the cops if he felt he ws being wronged. I don't expect you to get that, because you are ignorant, and want to blame the corrections officer, because the big bad meanies were mean to you when you got locked up. Remove your own experiences from this case INS, it's not about you. No one cares that you had a a bad experience when you were arrested. I'm sure you deserved it, if you're as ignorant and obnoxious in person as you come across on this website. " Nov 29, 09 12:11 PM

I'll be the one with the torch and the smile, when the verdict comes down. See you tomorrow. =)" Nov 29, 09 12:13 PM

Ha...if what I say here is so baseless, you wouldn't chase me around this message board trying to wah wah wah your point of view into exhaustion. I'm actually glad you think the way you do, INS. It's sure to catch up with you. Maybe some day you and Oddone will be cellmates, and you can have all the time in the world to tell each other just how "right" you are. Damn the man, and all that. =)" Nov 29, 09 1:43 PM

Boo hoo. I guess you'll have to try real hard not to choke anyone to death, seeing you're so afraid of pitchforks. " Nov 29, 09 1:47 PM

He told the cops he was training in MMA. How do you feel?

You throw around the word clueless quite a bit, yet you really have no idea just how clueless you are. You are uninvolved with anyone in this case, you are here for your own twisted benefit. Wake up and realize that most of us here know more than we're willing to post, and you sir, know nothing in comparison. You know hate. I feel sorry for you, yet as I said before, it is sure to catch up with you. " Nov 29, 09 2:14 PM

Of course you won't (can't) articulate your statement. Probably because you don't actually feel that way. You just like to play the victim. " Nov 29, 09 2:48 PM

Oddone jury will consider lesser charges

Anthony Oddone worked as a bouncer, and struck someone over the head with a beer bottle. And yet Oddone supporters claim an off-duty corrections officer was abusing his power with a mere shove. Hypocrisy at it's most heinous. Surely the person Oddone hit in the head with the bottle was more reasonably "in fear of his life" than Oddone was during his second (that we're aware of) bar room altercation. Isn't it amazing that the person Oddone hit over the head with a beer bottle didn't turn around and choke Oddone to death? Perhaps that's because that person isn't a murderer. " Dec 1, 09 5:47 PM

Publius, I believe you have misinterpreted the partial verdict section, though I can see how you would. The language of the CPL and Penal Law is grossly obtuse, to say the least, and easy to misconstrue. The partial verdict statute would come into play if the defendant were being charged with more than one offense. Say you robbed someone, and afterward while running away they fell and cut their face open. The DA has charged you with both robbery and assault, claiming you harmed the persons face. The jury decides you are guilty of robbery, but they feel that the DA has not successfully proved you cut the person's face. That is where a partial verdict comes in- yes to the robbery, and the assault is either a no, or undecided.

Oddone cannot be found guilty of all three options the judge has put before the jury, they must decide on one.

That being said, I appreciate your interest in the CPL, really I do, but please calm down a bit. You take up so much space on here. Perhaps a link to a web page depicting the law you would like to site will suffice? " Dec 1, 09 7:31 PM

Anthony Oddone worked as a bouncer, and struck someone over the head with a beer bottle. And yet Oddone supporters claim an off-duty corrections officer was abusing his power with a mere shove. Hypocrisy at it's most heinous. Surely the person Oddone hit in the head with the bottle was more reasonably "in fear of his life" than Oddone was during his second (that we're aware of) bar room altercation. Isn't it amazing that the person Oddone hit over the head with a beer bottle didn't turn around and choke Oddone to death? Perhaps that's because that person isn't a murderer." Dec 1, 09 8:33 PM

You say that like the DA was shooting craps in a back alley..'they could have had man 2 etc..'.. Don't forget, Oddone was indicted on not one, but two counts of Murder 2, by a (Grand) Jury of his Peers. It wasn't the defense v prosecution at a flea market, haggling for a deal for kicks. A man lost his life. Obviously, the grand jury felt there was sufficient cause to pursue Murder charges.
" Dec 1, 09 9:00 PM

I'm not above being corrected, if I am in fact mistaken. Care to explain why you think so?" Dec 1, 09 9:02 PM

Thanks for your answer Publius, but I still think you are misinterpreting the statute; specifically, reading too much into it. If you try re-reading it at face value, without refering to this case specifically, maybe you'll be able to see what I meant in my explanation. Yet of course, if you choose to respectfully disagree, that's fine.


By the way, I believe I found an answer to one of your questions (taken from an article within this site): "During his autopsy on Mr. Reister, Dr. Wilson said he found that two small bones near his larynx had been broken by the force of Mr. Oddone’s forearm grip on his neck...."" Dec 1, 09 9:30 PM

The DA was not forced to do anything, she had a choice between the two, and chose Intent. A conviction of Murder 2 under Depraved Indifference is the same exact statute as Murder 2/ Intent. Same charge, same Class A felony. Different *elements* to prove, but BOTH Murder 2 nonetheless. So to say a conviction of Depraved Indifference would have been a "compromise" off of Intent makes no sense. Unless you are under the impression that the Depraved Indifference was a "lesser" charge. It is not. " Dec 1, 09 9:40 PM

Ironically, that article strengthens my point of view. Payne was convicted of Depraved Indifference, and had it overturned. He's right. He shot the guy. Personally I'd call it a "crime of passion", not Depraved Indifference. Now say after their argument, he killed the victim by beating the guy over the head with the 12 Gauge, repeatedly, for over two minutes, instead shooting him, THEN I'd say depraved indifference would certainly come into play. Can you see the contrast here?" Dec 1, 09 10:00 PM

They do not do it that way, Publius. I'm trying to be patient with you but you are getting ridiculous. Only if you're sitting amongst them would you know what "order", if ANY, the jury is considering the charges. For all you know, their collective thoughts will be sporadic until they can pile them all up and figure each other out. They are not allowed to discuss the case, even with one another, until deliberations begin.

Just because you copy and paste the law as it is written from a webpage doesn't mean you have a realistic grasp on anything. Clearly.

Oh and INS, seeing as you're living in another decade, why don't you stop making an @ss of yourself in present and sit this one out for a while.

(PS, Spota is only part of the decision making process. Democracy, civil rights, prohibits him from doing it all himself. ie Grand Jury, voir dire, etc. etc. etc. You're welcome.)" Dec 2, 09 4:37 PM

"However, you can't bring untested, unchallenged, accusations about something else, from somewhere else, to prove the accusations in this case." -Publius

Once again, shooting off when you don't know everything. At least in the other posts you have the CPL to rip apart and translate into your own wayward nonsense. Here you just made a statement which you absolutely know nothing about. I assure you, Big Tone was convicted of that which I spoke of, and then some. Perhaps the fact that these instances were inadmissible had a lot more to do with a technicality then it does with your abc's interpretation of the law. If you don't believe me, why don't you shoot friend4life a private e-mail, I'm sure they'll give you the skinny. (A colored skinny of course, seeing as *that* apparently wasn't Oddone's fault either. wink wink)
" Dec 2, 09 4:45 PM

If the Oddone supporters on this website are the very people who had influence in his upbringing, then it's no wonder the kid doesn't think he did anything wrong. Between them and the blind rich folk footing his legal bills, why shouldn't he walk around like he's just the-poor-guy-out-for-a night and had to go and choke someone kind of fella. Amazing. " Dec 2, 09 4:51 PM

Jury now deliberating in Oddone trial

Controlling ones self to the degree you do not kill another human being is essential. That is why we have laws which frown upon such actions.

Getting fired up on a message board pales in comparison. The offended reader simply needs not read the comments. (now doesn't that sound easy?)

Frank on the other hand worries me....His panting anticipation for "the chiming in" on each and every thread suggests perhaps that it doesn't disgust him...maybe it even arouses him a tad. Ew Frank." Dec 2, 09 4:58 PM

Oddone jury will consider lesser charges

HEY EINSTEIN: DEPRAVED INDIFFERENCE has been OFF THE TABLE since the trial started. My my, you really are thick, aren't you. Trying to explain things to you yesterday was a complete waste, you poor thing...You are without a clue!! Thanks, seriously, I needed a hearty laugh!

Lesson of the day kids: You cannot have a battle of wits with the unarmed!!

" Dec 2, 09 8:05 PM

Jury now deliberating in Oddone trial

Oh just ignore him. Publius has fallen into a law book can't get up.

" Dec 2, 09 8:10 PM

It doesn't matter if he was drunk. Intoxication is not a defense- never has been, never will be. You can wait a few months, or forever, for Publius to dig up this FACT, (if he can ever find it) or you can use common sense. Why do you think Oddone's lawyer isn't pushing the "was he drunk?" issue? She knows it's moot. She's never even stated that her client was drunk, and neither did Oddone for that matter. When asked about the matter in the very early stages of the investigation, Suffolk County Homicide Detective Lieutenant Jack Fitzpatrick was quoted the following: “I would never be able to get a judge to give me a warrant to take his blood under circumstances like that"" Dec 2, 09 9:35 PM

Defense seeks mistrial; Judge rejects motion

What do you work at there or something? You keep talking about peace and how anger isn't good for anyone, yet you're making your underhanded cheeky comment about the Publick House on every thread here. What's your point? Can't be a good one. How about you take your own advice, or maybe just step way from the comments section for a spell. " Dec 5, 09 8:22 PM

Jury deliberations continue in Oddone murder trial

Blaming the victim, blaming the jury, blaming the politicians. Enough. For those of you who are friends with, and still communicate with Anthony Oddone, I really hope you're not feeding him all this garbage. A supportive friend would not make excuses and defame the deceased man in the name of the man who killed him! A true friend would encourage Oddone to take responsibility for his actions. To appologize to the Reister family. To serve his time in prison with remorse, and -Oh My God: Dignity. You see, if he is absolutely unable to do those things, then I'm afraid the only "sick man" in this horrible scenario is the man who choked a person to death. Please tell me you have more faith in your friend, the one you say is such a "good man". For a good man would surely find a way to repent and be remorseful. " Dec 6, 09 10:33 PM

Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

Oh dry up already, PBR. The first physical move does not justify Deadly Physical Force. Repeat: The first physical move does not justify Deadly Physical Force. This isn't the principal's office, no one's playing "whoever threw the first punch gets suspended!". Andrew Reister was killed by Anthony Oddone. Oddone's use of deadly physical force was not justified. If it were ok to kill someone because they "shove" you, we'd have a lot of dead to bury.

So there you go. Turns out your worn-out question is not only repetitive, but it's weak and moot. So why don't you calm down already, stop being so nasty & hostile. The jury will come back with a verdict soon, and you'll be available to direct your anger elsewhere. " Dec 7, 09 10:46 PM

Touche' beachgirl. " Dec 7, 09 10:50 PM

The article states what the prosecution was trying to enter as evidence. It is coverage of pre-trial hearings, not an editorial of a journalists opinion. Seriously, go back to school.

By the way..Mr. Oddone's criminal history is a matter of public record. His own "friends" have admitted to the incidents on this very board. However... if you STILL cannot accept the facts, you can always come back with the ol' "Did Mr. Reister make the first physical move?". Because that line has made you appear so very intelligent, thus far.

Pfft.

" Dec 7, 09 10:57 PM

The whole system is corrupt because your friend is on trial. What a coinkydink.
" Dec 7, 09 11:00 PM

"the mistreatment of our citizen has been harsh"

WHAT? What "mistreatment"? You know what...don't bother with an answer. I think I lost enough brain cells after reading your first heap of garbage. " Dec 7, 09 11:08 PM

Oh hello, little self-proclaimed victim!! Long you spout from your blow-hole--- so passive aggressive--- your comments hallow, nonetheless." Dec 7, 09 11:18 PM

Prove your accusations "equilizer". Either back them up already, or stop with your inane, paranoid accusations. And if you're actually going to try to back up your ridiculous statements, do us all a favor and narrow them down a bit as to how they apply to THIS case. Please feel free to be very very SPECIFIC. Your empty accusations and disdain for all things government/judical system/police are becoming quite the bore without specifics. I dare say you're actually whining. Please, enlighten us. " Dec 11, 09 11:11 AM

Please do not entertain that idiot's accustions. " Dec 11, 09 11:26 AM

What's with the censorship?" Dec 11, 09 11:39 AM

Desperate accusations. You can easily say that the filthy rich people who are bankrolling Oddone have just as much "influence" and money to corrupt the jury/judge/politicians as those of whom Equilizer is relentlessly accusing.... of tainting our very existence, apparently. Give it a rest EQ. " Dec 11, 09 12:08 PM

I know he has not been beaten by his "captors". He has no scars from his incarceration, nor his arrest. Your desperation is glaringly obvious via the incessant repetition of your lies. I'm starting to believe that your plight has less to do with your support of Anthony Oddone than it does trying to settle an unknown score with the prison/criminal justice system. Wouldn't surprise me. Yet I digress; you need to educate yourself. Oddone has not been taken "hostage" as your term "captors" would suggest. Learn the rules of our society, as you seem to be unable to come to terms with a person being incarcerated for taking a life. That screams ignorance. Educate yourself, maybe it will help with that anger you have going. " Dec 11, 09 12:35 PM

"The first physical move does not justify Deadly Physical Force."

I typed it TWICE up there. But go ahead and read it yet one more time, or over and over, until the light bulb comes on. When you're ready, tell me the mistake you made. Then, sit on your hands for a few days, because you cannot seem to post anything without looking most ignorant and ill informed. Thanks in advance. " Dec 11, 09 12:52 PM

Yes, basically PBR is saying in an utmost passive-aggresive cowardly way, that Andrew Reister deserved to die that night. Scary, the thought process of those living amongst us in society. And yet we know if PBR's brother, father, son was choked to death, he'd have a completely different standpoint.

Just pointing out the facts in this now over-crowded thread. Wouldn't want to lose sight, would we PBR. " Dec 11, 09 12:57 PM

YOUR version of the "norm" behavior of a bouncer would not apply here, even if you had any clout (you don't) ...because clearly Oddone was unawares of "proper INS bouncer behavior" when he, as a bouncer, cracked a beer bottle over someones head during an altercation. " Dec 11, 09 1:07 PM

"They must acquit". No they musn't, you silly girl. You'll see. ;)

Someone has been watching too many OJ trial reruns on Court TV. " Dec 11, 09 1:09 PM

Publius:

Butt out. Clearly she's not just stating her "opinion". Even if she was, then you'd have to apply the same courtesy to me, and butt out, wouldn't you.

Your tired, incorrect, and long winded interpretations of our laws hold no water with me. It's a shame that there are a few people on here are being mislead and ill "educated" by your senile ramblings. I implore them to dig deeper, for their own benefit, and not take your word. Words. Many many many words.

There is no impairment his counsel's rights. She wants him at Rikers. The judge lets her "counsel" ODdone as much as she wants, right there in Riverhead, saving her a trip to Queens. In other words, the court has been exceptionally accomidating to her.

I suggest you ignore me from here on in Publius. Correcting you is getting tiresome. Post your posts for the people who believe your nonsense, ok? I for one have been making a conscious effort to avoid you. =)

" Dec 11, 09 1:16 PM

How do you know he was "beaten"? Please do tell. What were the cicumstances? Did his temper get the best of him again? I would love to be enlightened on that loaded accusation, please. " Dec 11, 09 2:04 PM

No problem PBR! I'm sure you appreciate my comments just as much as everyone appreciates your condescending, insincere declarations for "world peace" and the like at such an "appropriate" time. So while you're pointing fingers yourself, maybe you have a mirror handy? If so, point away friend, point away. ;)" Dec 11, 09 2:07 PM

You're right, you don't know.

Maybe you should read some more of PBR's posts.

Yowza.

" Dec 11, 09 2:21 PM

"Why is it that if someone doesn't come out and say Oddone should fry, you disagree with them."

Not true.

"I didn't say Oddone was innocent at all."

I never said you did.

I disagree with your opinion about PBR. Why don't you relax.

" Dec 11, 09 6:18 PM

His attorney is granted extra time in Riverhead because she said it is a hassle to go to Rikers. She was quoted as saying that in court. As far as your claim about Nassau, it is your statement to prove, especially if you post it so carelessly. I will not research it for you, as I have read each up on this case exensively already. If you'd like to site the place where you read it, I'd be happy to read. If not, please don't spread ugly rumors. It's bad enough the victim is being blamed here withut adding even more people to the "blame" list. " Dec 11, 09 6:27 PM

Lots of people are sorry you can't resist commenting. You seem to be in love with yourself though. But keep blaming Andrew Reister for his own death, superstar. I'm sure a few aknowledgements on an internet message board is worth it, eh?" Dec 11, 09 6:29 PM

Seriously, learn how to read. I didn't say YOU blamed Reister.

You say Oddone was beaten by corrections officers in Nassau, and now I'm calling you a liar. Prove it. You can't. If you could have, you would have cited your source by now. Enough already. " Dec 11, 09 7:22 PM

I don't really care about your selfish ax to grind, Eq. This case isn't about you. It's about justice for a dead man and his loved ones.

Don't think I read any of your whiny crap either- I honestly don't care about you. " Dec 12, 09 12:12 PM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

Thank you, Juror 2, for your service, and for fighting the good fight. People like you keep my faith in our justice system. I'm sure it's been a long road for you. Have a blessed and peaceful holiday season with your family. " Dec 14, 09 9:44 PM

She can say whatever she wants now that the trial is over. Stop being ignorant. Juror 2, please do not validate anything this fool says with a response- your time I'm sure is way too valuable. " Dec 14, 09 9:47 PM

Wah wah wah. Even Oddone turned around in court after he was found guilty and mouthed the words "I'm sorry" to Stacey Reister. And yet here you are, spewing your hate, unwilling to concede that he did wrong. Go back to the hole you crawled out of. " Dec 14, 09 9:49 PM

F4L.. Her garbage holds no credence. As Mrs. Reister said, there are no winners here. I will continue to pray for ALL who were affected by this senseless tragedy. I wish them strength. " Dec 14, 09 10:58 PM

PBR = Spin Doctor. Pay attention:

"She was forced to answer questions of other jurors and finally faced the truth". That's the only time she used the word "force". It would appear the other 11 jurors did their best to have Juror 3 seek the truth within her own interpretation of events by asking her questions, so she could hear her OWN answers. Ever think of that? "She was forced to answer the questions of other jurors and finally faced the truth". Finally faced the truth.

You have a lot of nerve PBR. Don't think your selective choice of passages to spin has gone unnoticed either. Did you bother to read this part?:

" I am a county employee who was locked in a room for 11 hours a day listening to Juror #3 make biased comments about police and corrections. I couldn't take it anymore and told her I felt she was too biased and shouldn't be on this jury."

Yet you sit behind your keyboard and judge her, with blatant bias. I don't know what hair you have up your butt about this case PBR, but you obviously wanted Oddone to walk. You can deny it all you want, but I'm afraid your blame upon the deceased combined with your attack upon this juror speaks much louder than your typed BS words that claim otherwise.

Juror 2 does not have to answer to you PBR. The judge thanked her for her service. SHE was there, not you. She is better qualified to give us information about this case than you are. You're just going to have to suck that up big guy, along with the verdict.

Verdict = Convicted killer. Sink it in. Get over it. " Dec 15, 09 9:41 PM

She posted her real name, therefore she's not trying to wear any "cloak of anonymity". Her service is complete, she is not bound by an oath of silence. She needs not fear subpoena. " Dec 15, 09 9:48 PM

If you truly accepted the verdict for what it is, and truly believe "justice was served", then why are you picking apart Juror 2's post like a hungry man on a chicken bone?

You sit there and dissecting her passages, and spinning them so far out of reason, going as far as suggesting another juror may have been "forced" into a decision. Yet you say you feel "justice was served"? You contradict yourself.

She spent months of eleven hour days and nights, away from her loved ones, on an emotional roller coaster. She served this county....and here YOU are, telling her she has an "attitude".

Then you "thank" her.

She deserves to have an attitude. Why don't you try thanking her, and mean it.
" Dec 15, 09 10:18 PM

Hmmm...Seems all his "wisdom and insight" has been squashed in one fantastic line of the latest Newsday article:

Juror # 3's declaration regarding Oddones guilt: She had an "aha!" moment.

aha!hahaahahaa

Sorry PBwindbag, all that nasty speculating, questioning Juror 2's "truthfulness", all for naught. Shameless fool. " Dec 15, 09 11:23 PM

LET ALL THE CRIMINALS OUT OF JAIL!! EVERYONE IS INNOCENT!!



(Somebody get the butterfly net...)" Dec 16, 09 7:54 PM

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