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Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

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Maybe MaryB should read the attached story before engaging mouth with her biased opinions.

Those 'whiny' posts I have made that seem to trouble you were entered to give the readers that care to learn something another perspective of what goes on behind the scenes in a Suffolk County 'criminal investigatioin'.

I added the above story because I recently was engaged in another Suffolk PD and DA fiasco of charging a man of a crime the SCPD and the DA knew, or shouold have known - assuming they have an IQ of higher than 50, that the person they charged didn't do the crime.

The witness/complainant, before entering the grand jury to testify told the detective that what she charged wasn't true. The detective told her that unless she repeated what she told him that she would be arrested for perjury.

All the police and the DA had to do was to look at the evidence and at least ask the complainant's teenaged friends what happened and what she told them after the alleged rape. But that would create problems for their case. Why look for the truth when a lie would serve better to get on the sheet with a bad arrest. Hey, what is the big deal - the victim in this case, the accused was only facing 20 years.

The case was dropped, but not before Spota rolled out one of his old cronies and now a DA Investigator to take a last one shot at her. He is the same DA investigator that is the subject of a federal civil rights violation of another innocent man that the DA wanted to tell him what they wanted to hear. The DA Investigators went there even though they were told by the subject's attorney NOT to speak to his client. They went there and told him to fire his attorney and hire one 'that works well with us" The problem is that some of those conversations were taped........Sorry, Charlie, StarKist doesn't want you. But, of course, the Investigators were only doing this "in the interests" of that person, and SPOTA and his staff didn't authorize it or know about it.

THIS IS HOW SUFFOLK COUNTY DA CONDUCTS THEIR INVESTIGATIONS.

Does this mean that Anthony Oddone is innocent? Of course it doesn't. He appears to me to be not guilty of murder 2. But that is my opinion.

I just offer the above 'whiny' remarks to make others aware that maybe they should question the integrity of the DA and some of the SCPD detectives. There is enough there to make a case for that.

If ONLY one person reads my posts and one day they are on a jury for a criminal case in Suffolk County, and remember what I have written that makes them wonder that something doesn't seem right with this case - it would be well worth my long and continued efforts.

Trust me, Mary B, Spota and his Henchmen know exactly who I am and why I am posting." Dec 13, 09 9:13 AM

EXACTLY!!!

" Dec 13, 09 5:49 PM

The general rule of thumb in cases such as this one is that the winner goes to jail and the loser goes to the hospital. It doesn't matter if the loser started it. That is not to suggest Andrew Reister started it. What I am saying is that the cops and DA just don't care. The fact that Andrew was a correction officer and the Suffolk Conservative Party leader is also a correction officer, then it is a no brainer - Oddone goes for it and he goes for as much as the DA and cops can get away with. That is not to say that Oddone doesn't bear full blame for this tragedy. What I am saying is it doesn't matter if he does or not. He will be prosecuted to the limit and the truth is irrelevant." Dec 14, 09 12:02 AM

In this particular case it is really ALL about politics. Doesn't matter if Oddone is stone cold guilty or innocent. POLITICS rules the day." Dec 14, 09 9:48 AM

Is there anywhere in any of my postings that I put the blame on Andrew Reister? Is there anything that you see that I have formed a conclusive opinion as to the guilt or innocence of Oddone?

Have you read anything about my criticizing Andrew Reister for whatever actions he took that night? Have I said that Oddone dancing on the table did not contribute to the death of Andrew?

You are assuming things still in dispute:

Andrew 'humbly' asked him to get off the table.
Oddone 'snaps in a violent drunen rage'.
Oddone places Andrew 'in a choke hold for more than 2 minutes."
"Patron kills bouncer and flees the scene." He took a cab and I assume gave the driver his address.

Have I ever said that Oddone bears no blame for this tragedy?

How is this a murder?

My only concern is that the district attorney is not to be trusted to see that justice is done. Recently, a woman stabs her boyfriend in the leg and causes his death and she was only charged with Manslaughter?

The original arresting officer remarks on the booking slip that Oddone appeared to be intoxicated. At trial, the same officer said he was mistaken. It is a classic practice of the district attorney when politics and not the facts are the reason for the prosecution.

30 so called witnesses tell you that it was obvious that Andrew's life was in peril and not ONE of them, or the 30 of them had the ability to loosen the grip of Oddone. Please, tell me another one.

If you have ever seen someone die it is unmistakable that the person is dying if the air is being witheld from that person. They start red, then blue, their eyes begin to bulge and then they go limp.

" Dec 14, 09 2:46 PM

At least this jury seems to have taken their oath seriously and did give great thought to the evidence presented. I thought it was a bit less than a manslaughter. " Dec 14, 09 5:48 PM

Shamrock, how did this woman get on the jury? It had been mentioned by the judge that her going to work for SCPD was known during the jury selection process. Do you know any more of that?" Dec 15, 09 9:47 AM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

JUROR#2 - assuming you are who you say you are - All that you have done by posting on this blog board is that juries, especially Suffolk jurors are effing screwballs. That opinion is not come about because of the guilty verdict by the jury - it is what it is.

A Suffolk County employee that is expected to join the ranks of the SCPD, getting their full salary ( make sure you turn in the juror stipend to the County) and you seem to consider yourself a champion of justice.

Are you now going to join the prosecution team in a post convicttion celebration?

Yeah, I am sure you NEVER opened up the computer to look at the case. Yeah, sure.

If I were you I would take my computer and burn it, smash it to pieces, and then bring it to the Brooklyn Bridge and throw it in the East River." Dec 15, 09 10:24 AM

Dear Juror #2: You may well be charged with a charge of attempted reckless endangerment. The story is that while Ms.Merrifield was flying into work this morning her Blackberry beeped advising her she had a message. She opened up this website and her broom went into a tailspin and she crashed. However, it is your good fortune that the likes of the Merrifields cannot be killed in ordinary means - they need to be shot with a silver bullet or have a wooden spike thrust into the heart. That is why your crime is an 'attempted reck end.)" Dec 15, 09 10:54 AM

"INFLUENCE JURORS" ? Jurors are not supposed to read anything regarding the case?

It's a shame that while Juror #2 was gazing over at Mrs.Reister that she didn't pick up on her sense of dignity and compassion. Juror#2 could have learned something from watching Mrs.Reister - a first class lady and real human being." Dec 15, 09 12:32 PM

There was another case in Suffolk where 3 police officers came into the courtroom simply to see if justice was being done. 16 morons noticed their presence as you say you noticed the presence of the man behind Mrs.Reister.

In the case I am referring to the police witness that was testifying noticed those 3 cops in the audience as well. He knew they knew he was lying. He was a superior officer, a LT, and he chased them out into the hallway and reamed them out. Before the sun set those same three police officers that came into that courtroom with no agenda other than witnessing a portion of the trial were ordered to write letters of explanation to the police commissioner as to why they went to the courtroom. They were terrified into silence of not telling their fellow police officers what they saw and heard in a Suffolk County courtroom and the testimony of a very evil man brought to trial by the husband of the wonderful Ms.Merrifield. And she was there rooting the liars on.

Shove it where the sun don't shine Juror #2. It doesn't matter if you came back with a not guilty. None of you, or most of you are unqualified to stand in judgment of another human being." Dec 15, 09 12:42 PM

OUTSTANDING POST PBR. Juror number 2 is full of it. I think that this is not the end of it. I will bet you a good steak dinner that one day we will find that Juror#2 has been posting under another name on this board while the trial was going on.

For the most part most of the bloggers are looking for answers. None blame Reister or Oddone - they just know that something went terribly wrong.

If Andrew had not been a C.O., I doubt the case would have ever gotten this far. " Dec 15, 09 6:30 PM

Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

Simply judging from Juror #2's own words I have to believe her mind was made up even before the trial began.

Looking over at Mrs.Reister so you 'could keep your eye on the ball' ? By that do you mean to convict Oddone?

Thanks for proving what I have been saying for a long time now: Suffolk juries are just plain dumb and kool aid drinkers. That is NOT to say I believe the vote was correct or wrong. I am saying is that he never got a fair trial because of the likes of people like you." Dec 16, 09 9:49 AM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

PBR, did you like the post by #2 telling us how the prosecution told them after the verdict how bad Oddone really was? Wow, I guess they needed assurances they did the right thing so they could sleep at night.

There is a well known lawyer that is charging the confession taken from his client is false. It is from a very well known recent case. This same attorney, while a prosecutor years ago assured a jury that they did the right thing because the defendants involved in the case are strutting around acting like the fools they really were - but were they killers?

Maybe Ms.Merrifield should have told the jury of her and her husband's exploits with the court system. Maybe she should have told you that her husband, in a trial had another ADA enter a gag order motion against the opposing attorney because her husband believed the lawyer was telling some nasty things about them.

Give it a rest Juror#2 - You helped get the guy convicted and there is no need to continue throwing dirt on the grave." Dec 16, 09 10:16 AM

I think it was said in a Juror#2 post that the 30 witnesses were 'shocked' into inactiion. good thing their memories weren't so affected." Dec 16, 09 11:03 AM

Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

I was just wondering if Juror 2 believes it is the duty of a jury to hear the evidence and come to a verdict is a dispassionate manner. Why would any juror find it necessary to look at the family to 'keep their eye on the ball?"

I wonder if you thought having correction officers in uniform present in the courtroom until Ms.Kedia had them removed from coming in uniform was proper?

I wonder how you feel if the prosecution resorted to intimidation and implied threats when they saw spectators in the audience that would know that the prosecution was lying to have them not return to the courtroom and learn for themselves how the administration of justice is conducted in Suffolk County.

Sorry, #2 it may well be that Mr.Oddone was even guilty of murder (I don't think so) but what is the prosecution hiding by having observors that know the facts being removed from the courtroom.

" Dec 16, 09 4:40 PM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

WOW, Oddone violated his probation by driving without a license. That’s a biggie not to go unnoticed.

Let me give you a few examples on how the Suffolk DA works when it suits their agenda.

PAROLE VIOLATION:
There was this fellow named Chris Minnuzi that went to jail for one year after he pled out to a steroid violation. Some of the cases related to his prison term were still not resolved as two of the 14 arrested went to trial and refused to plead out. Mr.Spota didn’t want any of those 14 to go to trial because it would have uncovered a big scandal in his own office if the judge couldn’t control the cases.

Judge Robert Doyle would be pressed into action to try what were now 2 misdemeanors in one case and 3 misdemeanors in the other case. Two Spota Bureau Chiefs: Helig and Scleppi (sic) would jointly try both of these serious cases.

In one of those cases, Mr.Minuzzi was issued a subpoena to testify against the Spota victim. He received that piece of paper late in the week before the Monday of the trial. Uh, oh, it is against the rules of parole not to inform your probation officer that you have an interaction with law enforcement.

Mr.Minnuzi received a phone call from his parole officer on the Sunday night before the trial. He was told he was in violation and would probably be on the next bus back to prison. He was told to report to the DA office at 8:00AM to discuss his situation. He was told that if he didn’t want to go back to prison he should ‘do the right thing for the DA – you know what he wants.” He, then went on the stand and lied. I know he lied because he called the defendant and his attorney after the conviction and apologized for his lies – he was terrified of going back to jail. Now that his parole is over, Minuzzi did provide the now convicted defendant with an affidavit of what I reported above.

The defendant and his attorney, after receiving the call went back into Judge Doyle’s courtroom and informed him of that conversation. Oh, well, it doesn’t matter anymore.
" Dec 16, 09 5:45 PM

PROBATION: THE MAN WHO WAS NEVER VIOLATED:

Let me apologize to MaryB 123 for my ‘selfish’ behavior by reporting on the past transgressions of DA Spota, and Ms.Merrified’s husband ADA Peter Timmons.

MaryB thinks I am being selfish when I attempt to create an accurate portrait of The Suffolk DA office and how it makes that office unworthy to even prosecute a case of jay-walking.

May, 2004 – Two detectives from Spota’s office will place themselves near the home of Jake A. Feinberg. Mr. Feinberg, then in his late 20’s had already compiled an impressive record of criminal activity. Those arrests and conviction placed Mr. Feinberg on probation for crimes relating to the drug laws of NYS. The plan was to catch Mr. Feinberg in some violation of some laws, and therefore, violation of his probation.

Mr. Feinberg was caught driving with a suspended license, driving while under the influence of drugs, and for having drugs and drug paraphernalia in his possession. His probation was not violated because Spota needed him to flesh out a series of lies against a man he knew to be innocent.

June, 2004 – Mr. Feinberg signs an agreement to cooperate. One of the requirements of that agreement is that he is NOT to get in trouble. He can’t even be arrested. A conviction will not be required to make the agreement null and void.

July, 2004 – Mr. Feinberg is arrested outside of the Mid-Town Tunnel for driving with a suspended license, driving under the influence and for possessing drugs and paraphernalia. HE WILL NOT BE VIOLATED.

January, 2006 – Feinberg would complete his unholy agreement with the Un-Holy District Attorney, and his assistant, Mr. Peter Timmons Merrifield, by lying at trial against a man they DA knew was innocent.

Mr.Feinberg admitted at trial that he was a Ketamine and Vicodin abuser, among other drugs. Ketamine is a cat tranquilizer that is potent when used in the volume that Feinberg was known to inject into his body. It also destroys the ability to comprehend and is a cause for delusional behavior.

He lied and I can prove it to anyone other than a brain dead Suffolk Jury.

The innocent man was convicted and is now in jail.

Feinberg was allowed to continue on his probation until his untimely death early this year at the ripe old age of 31. The last I heard the cause of death was not determined by the Suffolk County M.E. What do you think he died of?

The point is that Feinberg was allowed to continue on probation from the time he was caught violating the law in May of 2004 and to the time of his death earlier this year. And all that time Mr. Feinberg reported to his probation officer for crimes related to drug abuse and possession, he must have been ‘clean’ of such drugs because if he was so infected he would have been violated, and who knows if he would still be alive by not having drugs in his body.

Yeah, Mr.Oddones ‘violation’ of his parole is certainly worth mentioning when speaking to his allegedly past criminal behavior.

Almost forgot. Joseph Careccia, the other liar created by Mr. Timmons Merrifield was placed on probation for his cooperation in this same case. Not to inconvenience Mr.Careccia, he was allowed to do his 5 year probation for pleading out to 38 violent felonies, and went back to Boca Raton, where he fled after an assassination attempt on his life in St.James, NY, on 4/28/02.

Careccia, well, he needed money – lots of money. He would give up a life of armed robbery, burglary, drug dealing, arson, extortion, and grand larceny, and go ‘straight’ by opening up 2 mortgage businesses known as: Washington Funding Group and Globe Mortgage Network. He would complement those mortgage companies by opening up Globe Realty, Globe Title Services, and Globe Credit Solutions. For some extra money he would associate himself with an illegal steroid operation known as www.infinitylongevity.com/ America is a great country, even a committed thief and high school drop-out can make it big – as Careccia did with his very lucrative Mortgage, and other related businesses.

Spota would be advised of my suspicions in a letter I wrote to County Judge James Hudson detailing the names of the companies and at least 6 suspect transactions. Those purchases that came as the result of Careccia’s companies are now in foreclosure, or as I predicted they would when I wrote that letter more than 2 years ago. We can only guess how much more Careccia was allowed to steal before my postings on the Internet caught up with him and Palm Beach Probation sent his butt back to Suffolk County.

He wasn’t violated, he just had to re-locate. Next stop could be North Carolina, or Arizona. I have already advised Sheriff Arpao to measure up some pink underwear for Joseph, if and when he arrives in Maricopa County, Arizona.

DAMNED SHAME OF THE ODDONE TRIAL IS THAT A JURY WOULD TAKE THE WORD OF A CORRUPTED DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND PLACE A MAN IN JAIL." Dec 16, 09 6:54 PM

Sure, why not. Arizona just sent another 'criminal' home after he did 28 years. Donald Eugene Gates, MB 58 years. I think his release had something to do with DNA. What is that now 220 falsely convicted?

What is that : 220 trials X 12 jurors = 2620 jurors that found them guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. Ooops.

Conspiracy theory? Nice way to discredit that which you refuse to agree with - the corruption in the criminal justice system.

I just gave you hard cold and proven facts about how the Suffolk DA and some of the SCPD do their business. And you try to make me out to a conspiracy nut.

Conspire? These guys don't need to conspire, it comes natural to them.

" Dec 16, 09 8:49 PM

Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

Oddone turns around and mouths the words to Mrs.Reister: "I'm sorry." Mrs. Reister mouths the words: "You should be." Some try to infer something - whatever, about this. And you say I am the conspiracy theorist." Dec 17, 09 7:47 AM

In the case I am referring to - three off duty police officers came into the court to 'see for themselves' if their former co-worker was guilty of the crimes charged. One spoke for all when he said, "We hope he didn't do this; we came to see for ourselves,"

these officers had previously been poisoned with propaganda that their friend was guilty. The liars would say they had video tapes of their friend committing the crimes. They had him on wiretaps, and they could prove he stole a police radio to assist in the burglaries. This is standard operating procedure by the SCPD and DA. Poison the well so that those that are thinking about showing support will walk away from it.

They come into court on the day I couldn't have planned for if I wanted it. They heard their former supervisor lie, lie, lie, lie and lie some more. Those three cops went in 50-50 for guilt or innocence, and they walked out with their mouths wide open. They knew the police witness lied and told some incredible lies that only a Kool-Aid drinking jury could swallow - a jury bent on conviction.

Those offjcers were followed out into the hallway by the lying police witness and had their butts reamed out. That was soon followed by PC Dormer ordering each of them to write him a letter of explanation as to why they went to court that day. What do you think that was all about? KEEP your mouths shut as to what you saw and heard - otherwise, there will be consequences.

The best part is that Dormer called the PBA for permission to commit this improper act - and they gave it to him. Put a chip in the bank to cash in when one of the PBA friends needs a solid. Now the PBA is calling their own Police Commissioner an A-Hole.

Keep your EYES on the ball . A lot of spit balls, spitters, scewballs are being thrown your way and the catcher is throwing dirt in the eyes of the batter.

That POS Merriman was in court each day cheering on her husband. Ask her if she turned her back on someone when they were being assaulted and abused. Ask her why Mr.Merrifield found the need to file a motion to have defense counsel not talk about him in the courthouse.

" Dec 17, 09 9:30 AM

Any poster that would put the picture of President Obama on a website and title it : DOPE is nothing but a dope themselves.

I didn't vote for Obama, nor would I vote for him if there was a credible opponent. that would run against him. Call him anything you like, but one thing I do know Obama is not a DOPE.

It shows where your head is/was on the Oddone case - up your A--" Dec 17, 09 2:13 PM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

If you have read other postings of other trials that took place in Suffolk County you would have noted that there is an abundance of people that are obsessed with the 'joy' of a prisoner getting raped. They often like to describe the raper as "Bubba". They seem to be obsessed with oral and anal rape." Dec 17, 09 2:21 PM

It will be VERY interesting when Mr.Wright updates his interviews with the jurors if any of them said they would have liked to hear Oddone testify? I am sure that most of them were of such a mind. Wouldn't it then be interesting if this would be cause for a mistrial? Let us now see how fair Judge Hinrich really is, or will it be left for an appellate court to decide?" Dec 17, 09 2:23 PM

Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

UPDATE ON DNA EXONERATIONS - ONLY THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG

I poated earlier that there were about 220 such exonerations. Recent update puts it at 247. 247x12 jurors = 2942 dopes voting for conviction when the real victim - the exonerated one was convicted. That is a lot of dopes.

I wonder how many of those cases Juror #2 and MaryB 123 sat on - could be the whole 247 if they traveled around the country." Dec 17, 09 3:04 PM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

As some of you may have deduced from my postings I have a relative that served 7 weeks in Riverhead and is now in a state prison serving time for a crime he didn't commit.

I can tell you that while he was in Riverhead he was treated with the utmost respect and decency as the system would allow. I would like to think that Andrew Reister was one of the C.O's that supervised his incarceration. No complaints here as to the treatment he received at Riverhead.

In the prison he is now incarcerated in is run by some very professional people as well. It wasn't as easy when he was far upstate. It is a different culture of people the further you get away from NYC. I would stress that there were no horrific incidents made against him.

As in all walks of life there are those that are out of control and their improper acts are covered up by the institutions that have to protect themselves from scandal. That is unfortunate, but true.

I suspect that Oddone will be sent to a prison as far away and as cold as it can get. That is a matter of routine if you are not connected and favors are being done.

Don't be quick to sell the correctional department short. Most of them are professionals and will give you little problems if you tow the line.

It wouldn't surprise me in the least that Mrs.Reister will offer a measure of compassion when it comes time for her to make an impact statement to the judge before sentencing. She just strikes me as that kind of person.

PBR - I agree with your last post. If there is any compelling evidence that the juror gave any importance to Oddone not testifying, then I believe Judge Hinrichs will ignore a motion. That will be decided, hopefully in a fair and just manner by the appellate courts." Dec 17, 09 8:16 PM

Seventh day of deliberations ends with no verdict in Oddone case

Good Idea. Marty Tankleff managed to do just that and millions in uncharged pro bono work of several law firms and Soury Communications was needed to get a blind judiciary to finally see the truth." Dec 17, 09 9:38 PM

Oddone guilty of first-degree manslaughter, jury announces Monday

Remember that it was Spota who successfully resisted the defense motion for a special prosecutor to be appointed in the Tankleff 440 motion, and it was Spota that 'requested' a special prosecutor to be appointed to determine if there was enough evidence to re-try Tankleff, and to determine if anyone else could be charged for that crime.

Attorney General Cuomo was happy to oblige. It was Cuomo that couldn't resist saying 'although there was some evidence of guilt" on the part of Tankleff, he didn't recommend that Tankeff be re-charged.

Andy, always ready to do an accomodation if he thinks he can get a few votes from the Suffolk County Democats machine.

Andrew, why did you include the statement by an unnamed inmate that told you that Tankleff told him he murdered his parents. An inmate that had only met Tanleff once and after Tankleff had written more than 50,000 lettes to persons he hoped would support him?

Why didn't you include the interview of inmate CL, a longtime (12yrs) fellow inmate and Tankleff, Why did you send two of your investigators to the prison only a few weeks before you issued your garbage ridden report on the Tankleff Case. Why didn't you tell the people that CL is doing 25 years to life ( for a crime he didn't commit - courtesy of the SCPD and DA office) and that he was, at the time 7 years before he was eligible for parole consideration.

And why was CL denied requests for work assignments in the prison when it wasn't an issue in the preceding 17 year or so before, and now he was experiencing problems by being denied such employment?" Dec 17, 09 9:51 PM

JUROR 2 said she got home after the verdict was in and 'googled the hell out of the story.' What's the matter, Tammy, you didn't get enough?

Were you disappointed that your name wasn't mentioned? Maybe you should have added your High School graduation picture to round out the piece.

You really expect me to believe you were able to restrain yourself and didn't go into this Board the second you knew you were in the jury pool ?

What other names have you used on the site and other sites to give your adoring public a blow by blow on the case?

Has the district attorney rang up and suggest that you tone it down a bit. Why don't you call around and ask your fellow jurors if they received a call from the DA. Bet you a dollar that some of them were called and asked them if anyone from the defense side called them. In other words: You don't have to talk to them if you don't want to." Dec 18, 09 9:13 AM

I have to tell you that after I read Juror@2's postings I have to wonder if Oddone ever had a chance with her. It brought back of a lot of bed memories of Suffolk juries. No, I wasn't disappointed with the verdict. Don't know if Oddone was as guilty of Manslaughter 1, or murder 2, or less. What I did know was that he wouldn't get a fair shake with a Suffolk jury.

When she said she was 'happy' to have served on that jury I wanted to vomit. How could any human being find pleasure on being on a jury and be responsible for sending a young man to jail for 25 years? What kind of person would take pleasure in this? Maybe it is the same kind of person such as DA Thomas Spota. It was Spota that gave an interview to a Newsday reporter in 2006 that he didn't take the job of DA to 'step up' to a judgeship. He enjoyed the power of arrest and depriving people of their liberty. And that is a quote.

What decent human being would enjoy that sort of power?

I helped put a lot of people on the defense side of the table. I did my job the best way I knew how. I can tell you that I never took joy in putting a man, any man, no matter how deserving, of putting a man in a cage like an animal.

Until such time that society creates a better way to deal with crime, I guess putting people away is the only option left to us.

My God, what sort of man enjoys the power of arrest and the pleasure of depriving people of their liberty? A misfit and a beast.

This is the same man that was at a businessman's luncheon and gave a talk. He held up a Blackberry and told these people that 'We; are watching you. We can retrieve all that you do with this Blueberry, or Blackberry, or whatever you call it. We can retrieve your faxes, tap your cell phones. Monitor your point to point Nextel transmissions. We can get your Email.

Sure, sometimes doing this is necessary, but it is still chilling to the ordinary citizen to hear their law enforcement officials can and will monitor your most private conversations.

I suggest the readers invest a couple of hours and read the 1989 NYS SIC report. It is only a 'short' 197 pages of a non-stop report critical of the SCDA and SCPD. The report is stunning.

You can find the report on www.martytankleff.org/ Go to the report sectioin and open it up. You won't be disappointed.

The Honorable Thomas J.Spota is mentioned in that report. The Honorable Patrick Henry is mentiioned in that report as not investigating the allegations made in the SIC investigatioin that Spota handed out his business cards to police officers for DWI referrals, and with a kickback of up to 30% if he retained the client.

Do you know what the report said about the then DA investigation? Mr.Henry got one of his senior assistants to call Tom Spota's law partner and ask him if the allegation were true. What do you think Spota's partner said. End of the "investigation".

Suffolk attorney Raymond Perini, then chief of the SCDA narcotics bureau was accused by the SIC of running illegal wiretaps, knowingly allowing informants to give false testimony and false identifications for drug buys. That was testified to by at least several then active and former Suffolk police officers.

Now, DA Chief Investigator and SCPD police inspector James Burke. He was indirectly mentioned in that same report as he was the then 14 year old Tom Spota informant that helped put at least one 14 year old kid in jail for the murder of John Pius Jr. Do wonders ever cease? Burke's name was not mentioned in that report, but the Pius case was and it was a story unto itself. 11 years of trials and reversals because the likes of Spota and his able assistant Tim Mazzei and detetectives now working in Spota's office as retired SCPD detectives, now working as Investigators at 110K+ a year. You can call that: "Keep your friends close, and those that can dish the dirt on you closer" to paraphrase Michael Corleone.

Does anyone with any common sense believe that four young men would kill a 13 year old because he saw them stealing a worthless mini bike? John Pius hung out with a group of kids, including the four young charged and three of then convicted to serve, 5, 19 and 20 years. John drank and smoke pot with them. He stole materials from building sites to build a tree house in a park near where his body was found.

Most of those young men were burglars. They raped Smithtown with burglaries, upwards of more than 100, both residential and commercial. John Jr would have known that - he palled around with them. And they killed him because he saw them steal a mini bike. The mini bike motive was concocted by the police to provide an instant motive as to why they allegedly killed them. And James C.Burke was their neighbor and friend.

Burke was brought in with 4 other young men to provide Spota with information on the others. One such person is known as Daniel Culotta. He went to jail for burglary since that murder, and he is now in jail for a series of burglaries and an attempted robbery committed in Smithtown in 2006. At the time of his arrest he gave as his address a home on 50 Acres Road, or just about one block where Chief Investigator/Police Inspector Burke now lives.

so, juror#2 don't sell me your BS about the SCPD being holier than Thou. Maybe Juror#3 had a legitmate reason for that bias you claimed she had when she questioned the integrity of the SCPD." Dec 18, 09 3:45 PM

JUROR#2, What's the matter a RAT got your tongue?" Dec 19, 09 6:17 PM

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