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Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

That's fair, if there was only one opportunity to take the exam and they were stuck with the grade (it isn't and they're not).

The student can also show consistency on their grades throughout their transcript, which is still going to be part of the admissions package.

I feel like a lot of people are modeling their answer after what school was like when they graduated...well,thinks have changed, including being able to take the SAT multiple times and only sending colleges your highest score. " Oct 18, 17 6:20 AM

Woman Upset After Piebald Deer Is Killed Near Her Hampton Bays Home

I'm no hunter so I'm curious: what would you have done differently?" Oct 18, 17 7:10 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

That's the problem with any discussion about gun-control: it gets taken over by fringe-loonies talking about registries and tyranny, and then the reasonable folks take the loudest voices as representative of their side.

For the folks who think the answer is an all-inclusive registry: it's never going to happen, the people aren't interested.

For the folks scared of the big bad gov't enacting martial law: the government IS US, it's you, your brothers, sisters and cousins who would carry out those orders, the very kind of illegal orders they have been educated by the military TO DISOBEY." Oct 18, 17 8:10 AM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

Beyond a pat on the back, it doesn't really matter or mean anything if you win the race at most high schools, since the #1 class ranking in School A may be easier to attain than being in the top 25 at School B.

Coincidentally, class-ranking based admissions were the focus of an affirmative action case in Texas: UT accepts (accepted?) any applicant who is in the top 10% of their graduating class, irrespective of any other qualifications, resulting in greater diversity at their campus." Oct 18, 17 8:18 AM

There's actually plenty of risk, since the students cannot be easily compared against each other.

A non-flashy number will count against kids who attend higher-performing schools despite their having much more competition, whereas children who rank higher at worse schools will be looked at more favorably, despite having less competitive classmates." Oct 18, 17 8:39 AM

Schools Warn Parents Of New E-Cigarettes That Are More Easily Concealed--But Still Unwelcome

If your kids say there are no negative effects of vaping, ask if they've ever heard of "popcorn lung", an irreversible disease that affects the smaller airways in the lungs." Oct 18, 17 9:33 AM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

In retrospect, do you think class ranks would have benefited you?" Oct 18, 17 11:18 AM

I believe in them insofar I believe they exist, but I'm not sure if that answers your question.

Why are we talking about this though? Haven't we already established that, if anything, getting a class rank beyond valedictorian/salutorian is the real participation trophy?" Oct 18, 17 12:53 PM

Is your belief that they are doing it to spare people's feelings based on anything, or are you just spitballing?

I think it's cute that you have faith in admissions departments to always get it right. As for me, I'd rather give my kids the best chance possible." Oct 18, 17 12:58 PM

You might have seen this already, but I'm repeating it here for your benefit:

A non-flashy number will count against kids who attend higher-performing schools despite their having much more competition, whereas children who rank higher at worse schools will be looked at more favorably, despite having less competitive classmates." Oct 18, 17 12:59 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

You know, I've actually taken to ignoring Erin so I didn't even get to the conspiracy theory woven into her comment...bonkers indeed." Oct 18, 17 2:21 PM

My favorite part was when he did the whole "BUT CHICAGO" thing, then immediately dropped it once we started talking about the state of Indiana." Oct 18, 17 2:33 PM

Southampton Town Police Chief Credits Drop In Crime Rates To New Analytic Tools

The five months with the most activity on the east end, no?

Thanks for the hard work, SHPD!" Oct 18, 17 2:47 PM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

We're all just trying to do right by our kids. Thanks for the response! " Oct 18, 17 5:14 PM

It might be, but I think kids are reminded of that plenty already, at least more than when I was growing up. " Oct 18, 17 6:36 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

With the number of times the previous administration was put under a microscope, you'd think they'd have found something. This is the Benghazi hearings all over again. Can't wait for the GOP to find no wrongdoing again. " Oct 19, 17 5:58 AM

I've always been curious...what do responsible gun owners do with their arsenals when they die? Leave it to their heirs indiscriminately, or hopefully use some discretion? " Oct 19, 17 6:00 AM

I mean, it did work out pretty well for us if you weren't paying attention in history class. " Oct 19, 17 6:03 AM

Woman Upset After Piebald Deer Is Killed Near Her Hampton Bays Home

To your point of PTSD, there is a cause of action in NYS for intentional infliction of psychological pain but this probably wouldn't meet the "intentional" element, or rise to the level of malicious action required.

The hunters here are better suited to answer the rest of your questions. " Oct 19, 17 6:14 AM

Southampton Town Police Chief Credits Drop In Crime Rates To New Analytic Tools

I'm sure the SHPD would love to investigate any tips you may have. " Oct 19, 17 7:35 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

I guess when I say "indiscriminate" I'm imagining gram gram giving Lil' Johnny the keys to a safe on her deathbed and telling him to cross her "t"s and dot her "i"s.

Sure, gram gram violated the law, but what does she care? She's dead!" Oct 19, 17 11:14 AM

If mets and I are the same person I wonder if he'd mind paying my subscription." Oct 19, 17 2:58 PM

I came for the news but stayed for the comments section. " Oct 19, 17 6:43 PM

That's why the comment section is the fun part: even calling this a news site is controversial!" Oct 20, 17 5:48 AM

And yet we're still the place everyone wants to live...surely that's worth something, even if we owe it to the war hawks." Oct 20, 17 7:41 AM

Southampton Town Police Chief Credits Drop In Crime Rates To New Analytic Tools

It makes sense that Law Enforcement would focus on areas where more calls originate, but the issue is what they consider sufficient reason for a stop/search when they're in those areas and whether they're held responsible when they overstep their bounds.

The data, particularly in the city 90 minutes up the road, demonstrates that overzealous policing is a net loss for law enforcement and civilians alike." Oct 20, 17 8:15 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

There's probably always going to be people who want everyone who owns a gun on a list, just like there's always going to be people worried that marines are going to knock on their door and sequester them to FEMA camps.

The trick is to ignore the fringe ideas and find common ground among the rest of us...but you can't teach an old dog new tricks." Oct 20, 17 8:17 AM

It's a collective shrug and pivot to the "real problems" like people kneeling for the anthem." Oct 20, 17 9:41 AM

All of those things are still true (aside from Mr. Z's opinion which I don't agree with). Other places just happen to be worse.

If our country was so bad we'd spend less time complaining and more time escaping, speaking from experience." Oct 20, 17 9:57 AM

When criticizing a story it would behoove you to examine its sources and make up your own mind, rather than dismiss an entire publication outright.

The fact is that after 21 hearings, 11 hours of testimony by Sec. Clinton, and an 800-page report that cost us $7 million, no wrongdoing was found." Oct 20, 17 11:18 AM

Miscegenation was still illegal in some states until 1960.

Ruby Bridges, the first black child to attend an integrated school, is still alive and nearly a decade younger than our president.

The practice of red-lining (which denied black people access to a major vehicle of wealth accumulation: property ownership) was still going on in the '70s.

You're ignoring the downstream effects of explicitly racist laws that are still in living memory." Oct 20, 17 11:28 AM

Even if you think everything is going well, to say "it's so calm in the news" is just willful ignorance." Oct 20, 17 11:30 AM

We're less than a month removed from the deadliest mass shooting in US history and POTUS has been kicking around a pre-emptive strike against a nuclear-armed state.

If Barrack Obama was president you would would all act like the world was on fire.

To call it "calmest since 9/11" is fantastical. " Oct 20, 17 12:49 PM

So who's wrong, folks who think Clinton and Obama are guilty of "something"?

Or all of the intelligence agencies, government personnel, elected officials, and military heads who think otherwise? " Oct 20, 17 1:04 PM

So everyone in government is acting in concert to withhold incriminating information about the previous administration?

Have you ever heard of Occam's razor? " Oct 20, 17 1:19 PM

Wait, what do you think Occam's razor means?

In this case, the absence of news coverage indicates the absence of a story. It would require more assumptions (you even used the word "assume") to conclude anything else. " Oct 20, 17 1:30 PM

As I said, even if you agree with the way things are going, to say it's the calmest it's been since 9/11 is a ridiculous statement. " Oct 20, 17 1:34 PM

That was me, not mets. And I was specifically speaking about the Vegas shooter.

He easily and legally assembled his arsenal over time by spacing out his purchases. Is that false?

Mass murder is an individual act that we can mitigate through policy by exercising better control over the tools that make it possible.

Do you believe there's nothing we can or should do?" Oct 20, 17 3:02 PM

If your parents are wealthy you are more likely to be wealthy, right? It works the same way with education, which is closely tied to economic success.

There are people alive today who protested against integration...do you think they all feel radically different today?

You can believe they outlived their own hatred and ideas, but I don't." Oct 20, 17 3:08 PM

It really is a shame that knowing what words mean gets you labeled "arrogant" these days. " Oct 21, 17 9:26 AM

What a sad existence that this is what you'd draw joy from...get a cat or something. " Oct 21, 17 9:27 AM

I thought the angry ones were the "forgotten men & women"?

As for myself, if Medicare/Medicade get cut by a trillion dollars, it's no skin off my back. The people who rely on these programs are the "forgotten men & women", not me or my loved ones." Oct 22, 17 8:18 AM

A mix of all systems that guarantees a minimum standard of living in order to maximize productivity sounds ideal." Oct 22, 17 9:24 AM

You did say "another." As in more than one." Oct 22, 17 9:26 AM

Long Island Man Walks From Manhattan To Montauk to Raise Money For Type 1 Diabetes Research

Kudos to Mr. Ehrlich! This is no easy feat.

Slight edit necessary here: a man who works at Stony Brook University Children's Hospital told his young patients took a picture of Mr. Ehrlich for the young patients." Oct 22, 17 9:32 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

The only problem I see here is if there's evidence that anyone sought personal benefit from the deal.

Beyond that, who cares if Russia gets uranium? Aren't they already nuclear-armed?" Oct 23, 17 8:25 AM

I wasn't crazy about him, personally, but that's why there's nine of them." Oct 23, 17 8:36 AM

Who cares about what a state legislator from Missouri has to say? Let me know when the Democratic party is pushing a Roy Moore of their own." Oct 23, 17 9:08 AM

"even the illusion of impropriety is unethical."

It's problematic, but "unethical" is jumping the gun.

I've yet to see any evidence that the SOS influenced the deal (which went through the full gauntlet of approvals), or any proof that there was quid pro quo." Oct 23, 17 10:05 AM

Undocumented (27Dan), the Cleveland Browns are 0-6. Try harder.

NFL is worth billions and they'll probably be alright, though I wouldn't mind if ticket prices went down a little.

I'm actually surprised, with so many boycotting alongside BLM you'd think it would've hit them harder." Oct 23, 17 10:10 AM

Calm down little snowflakes, the congresswoman said "take out", not assassinate. Maybe don't cry when folks hit back." Oct 23, 17 10:14 AM

So what you're saying is there's no evidence that the SOS influenced the deal and no proof that there was quid pro quo involved?

Not even one person willing to testify, in the hundreds if not thousands that would have been involved?

I say we hold a hearing every month until next presidential election, just like Benghazi. Maybe they'll find something then?" Oct 23, 17 10:20 AM

Again, is there evidence that the SOS influenced the decision one way or the other?

Is there evidence that the funds swayed that decision?

If we want to open investigations from now until 2020 I'm on-board, but I have a feeling the result will disappoint you." Oct 23, 17 10:38 AM

I don't think I ever did. If Roy Moore said he planned to take out the competition, I wouldn't blink twice. And he carries." Oct 23, 17 10:43 AM

Are you suggesting that saying you're going to "take out" someone is an unambiguous threat on their life?

Or that Youtube took down a video (I actually found it on youtube, but I'll play along) to stem criticism of the Democratic party?

What ARE you saying? Please be clear and succinct." Oct 23, 17 10:57 AM

I'm ready, able, and willing to accept the results of either investigation.

Are you?" Oct 23, 17 11:00 AM

Because if someone with an "(R)" next to their name said it, you would be screaming up and down about how that's not a threat.

And it's not, in my opinion, and absent extraordinary context, no reasonable person would take it as such." Oct 23, 17 11:13 AM

God bless America: our people may be flawed but our institutions are without equal." Oct 23, 17 11:15 AM

"When they go high we'll go low" is actually backwards, and how one could see it as "inflammatory" is beyond me.

None of those are unambiguous promotions of violence and you'd have to be willfully or tragically ignorant to believe they were.

In terms of similar language used by Republicans, can we look back to the Obama presidency? I'm not saying it's a bonefide threat, and no reasonable person would take it as such, but it's similar enough to Waters' statement:

Sen. Perdue said the following: "We should pray like Psalm 109:8 says. It says let his days be few and let another have his office."

If you're curious, the rest of that bible verse goes:

Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.

Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.

Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labour.

Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favour his fatherless children.

Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.

Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the Lord; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out." Oct 23, 17 12:02 PM

Let me ask you: are you a mindless zombie?

If not, why would you assume that the tens of thousands of people who have a hand in delivering news are?" Oct 23, 17 12:09 PM

The funny part to me is that the NFL is getting boycotted on both ends: by people who want the players to be forced to stand, and by people who want the league to be forced to hire Kaepernick.

Meanwhile, here I am doing my best vulture impression on stubhub and ebay...maybe a conservative somewhere in Wisconsin has an autographed Brett Favre jersey they can't bring themselves to profit from!" Oct 23, 17 12:17 PM

So, pray tell, which foundations were changed and how so? " Oct 23, 17 1:47 PM

I'm disgusting for wanting a deal on football tickets and sports memorabilia?

Or for scavenging the carrion of boycotters to do it?

I don't necessarily disagree, just want to know :-)" Oct 23, 17 2:08 PM

White working poor, that's the majority of people on medicare and medicaid." Oct 23, 17 8:55 PM

Erin can't hear you, she's busy pretending gas prices are at their lowest in 12 years" Oct 23, 17 10:54 PM

They call me: has it ever occurred to you that they did the math, and decided this is what the audience wants? " Oct 23, 17 10:56 PM

No reasonable person would take it as a call to arms, but you said yourself: it's not about the reasonable people.

The Senator literally asked God to "make his days few." That sounds even worse than an ambiguous vow to "take him out", depending on how religious you are. " Oct 23, 17 11:03 PM

Oh no! Po Boy isn't lending his credibility to the outcome of the investigation?

I guess that's it, everyone. Let's pack it up and go home. " Oct 23, 17 11:06 PM

More like he felt like a need to atone when faced with the prospect of meeting his maker. " Oct 24, 17 6:39 AM

He's literally invoking the wrath of god...did you know a mass murderer shot up a planned parenthood in 2015 with the same motive?

You're a fool if you take either of these statements as serious threats, but there are a lot of fools out there." Oct 24, 17 7:24 AM

You can be as obtuse as you want to be.

Reasonable people can see how "take him out" and "end his days" are analogous. " Oct 24, 17 7:54 AM

Just one question: how has former FBI director Robert Mueller, a stellar law enforcement officer by all accounts, violated the trust of the public?

I could stand here and yell that he has no credibly unless he finds guilt until I turn blue, but every person whose opinion matters thinks he's the right person for the job regardless of the outcome." Oct 24, 17 8:17 AM

I honestly don't know about donations to the campaigns, but they all have stellar careers themselves and, absent evidence to the contrary, should be given the benefit of the doubt in regard to their impartiality, no?" Oct 24, 17 8:40 AM

Be the change you want to see in the world." Oct 24, 17 8:41 AM

They're all highly accomplished attorneys and investigators at the highest levels of government and the private sector.

A stellar career is a minimum required qualification for this type of high-profile work.

Regardless, nobody cares if Po Boy trusts the outcome of the investigation." Oct 24, 17 9:44 AM

Benghazi was a tragedy, just like the loss of life in Niger, there was nothing "good" about it.

The question of "who is responsible?" is worth asking in this case, just like it was in Benghazi." Oct 24, 17 9:51 AM

I fail to see "good" or "bad" political overtones other than pointed questions being leveled at the current administration.

If ISIS is responsible, why haven't they made the claim openly as usual?" Oct 24, 17 10:39 AM

Morbid curiosity, mostly. Rather, that should have read: "nobody of import cares."

I am a nobody who basks in others' ignorance like a dog in summer :-)" Oct 24, 17 10:42 AM

You go ahead and watch the process as closely as you can...keep us (the educated and accomplished) honest!

I'll be looking out for whether the outcome determines how people react...kind of how "unfavorable news" and "fake news" have somehow become synonymous for some people." Oct 24, 17 12:00 PM

Some people like beer, I like making fun of my neighbors online.

We all have our vices :-)" Oct 24, 17 2:16 PM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

Which part of not generating class ranks means they're unprepared?" Oct 24, 17 4:23 PM

I was more interested in the "how" of your conclusory statement than the "why."

How's does a class rank indicate preparedness at all?

Do you have kids in school?

Perhaps you're unaware, but facts are that kids know far more today, and far more is asked of them, than when we graduated (assuming you're also class-of-20th-century)." Oct 25, 17 5:37 AM

Southampton Town Supervisor Jay Schneiderman To Leave Independence Party, Join Democrats

Hey slimy, remember when you got caught lying about the NRA giving zero donations to Trump?" Oct 25, 17 5:39 AM

Except the fact is: The NRA gave $30 million to pro-Trump super PACs in addition to the standard, limited-by-law donation directly to the candidate. " Oct 25, 17 5:54 AM

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