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Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

It's probably unfair to fault Trump for the September job losses. At most, you can say he failed to weather the storms as his predecessor did." Oct 6, 17 2:16 PM

I get what you're saying, but my point toward such regulations is that, no matter how ingenuous, an amateur hotfix will be less efficient, which would be the point of hardware restrictions: to reduce the amount of damage a mass murderer can commit, not to prevent it from happening at all.

We are stuck with mass murder for the foreseeable future, so we might as well live our lives accordingly." Oct 6, 17 3:25 PM

Still waiting for some specifics on how to stop the "po" decay of society." Oct 6, 17 3:27 PM

Last active season was Katrina? Aren't you from Southampton?

Where were you for Irene and Sandy?" Oct 6, 17 3:32 PM

Dnice: when you wrote "why should it change?" what did the "it" refer to?

I assumed you meant the status quo, which is record-breaking mass shootings on a regular basis. " Oct 6, 17 11:18 PM

Well let me ask it this way: what did you think "it" was when you responded to Mets Fan? Gold star if you don't ignore the question this time. " Oct 6, 17 11:24 PM

It's not really a tough question. In the context of Mets Fan's comment, "it" referred to the status quo of mass murder on a regular basis.

In your response, it sounded like you felt that didn't need to change.

Feel free to clear any of this up for me because I'm confused as to what you meant, or why you're getting so defensive. " Oct 6, 17 11:39 PM

When people talk about wage disparity, it's in the context of other problems such as rising cost of living, inflation, and stagnant wages.

Wage disparity is not bad in and of itself, but when the middle class begins to sink into poverty because their income is not keeping up with their expenses...well, that's a problem for everyone in a consumer-driven economy." Oct 7, 17 7:46 AM

Notice how he said "outperformed" without reference to any measurable metrics. " Oct 7, 17 7:47 AM

Lol, coincidentally we've come to the collective conclusion that, sometimes, we lose income through no fault of our own. That's why things like unemployment and disability exist.

An economy requires consumers and will crumble without their patronage, isn't that the point of BLM's boycott of the NFL?

If people don't make disposable income they are not buying goods. If people aren't buying goods businesses are suffering. If you businesses are suffering, so do their stockholders & employees. Simple, really. " Oct 7, 17 8:19 AM

Mets actually pointed to the first month of job losses in seven years; that's what this conversation is about, please keep up." Oct 7, 17 8:25 AM

The irony here is that folks "who feel left behind" have existed much longer than 30 years. " Oct 7, 17 6:01 PM

Southampton Town Considering Creating Opioid Task Force To Combat Spread Of Drugs

If you have any tips or names for the SHPD, I'm sure they'd appreciate it. " Oct 7, 17 6:07 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

Was there really any criticism of Tim Tebow's kneeling? Didn't it go viral, culminating in everyone "Tebowing"?

Would love to see evidence of this criticism, because I don't remember it at the time and am skeptical every time someone brings it up." Oct 11, 17 8:30 AM

And if life begins at conception, spontaneous embryo loss is a bigger tragedy than 9/11, the holocaust, and the rise of communism combined.

We should also revise all our population statistics accordingly. " Oct 13, 17 6:43 AM

Sturgis: I took your advice and Google confirmed my experience. The most "mocking" I found was that "hallelujah" was played by a minor league team when he came up to bat and the mascot frequently kneeled, or "Tebow-ed".

Looking further back, there was one writer that exhibited reservations about the Jets signing Tebow because of the LGBT fanbase, which is not really scathing criticism. In fact, the articles that try to dig up this criticism in retrospect seem to have a hard time finding it.

I think the perceived criticism of Tebow's faith is highly exaggerated, and certainly nowhere near the criticism laid at the feet of the anthem protesters today." Oct 13, 17 6:55 AM

Didn't find any "criticism" of Tebow's faith, and a handful of mocking reactions at most.

Certainly nowhere close to the vitriol aimed at anthem protesters. " Oct 13, 17 6:57 AM

Hey slimy. So Obamacare died October of last year?

Remember when you were caught lying about the NRA's donations to Trump further up the page? Good times. " Oct 13, 17 7:03 AM

Nobody is genuinely suggesting we cut veterans' health benefits.

We're suggesting that purposely hurting folks by leveraging their healthcare politically is a grimy thing to do." Oct 13, 17 3:41 PM

Southampton Town Issues More Than 200 Code Violations For Illegal Rentals In Hampton Bays During Housing Crackdown

Why should government be responsible for your housing? Unless you're looking for a homeless shelter? " Oct 14, 17 6:44 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

Someone quoted the Bible hypocriticaly? That would NEVER happen... " Oct 14, 17 6:47 AM

Riverside Man Charged With Sexually Assaulting 5-Year-Old Boy

So, in your opinion, how long must one live in Riverside to be a "Riverside" man?

Is it possible they were referring to the place he resides, not his citizenship? " Oct 15, 17 8:04 AM

who's sticking up for anyone? I'm asking if, even though I was born elsewhere, I still qualify as a "Hampton Bays man? Is there a cutoff?

Just trying to wrap my mind around the rule here." Oct 15, 17 9:01 AM

who's sticking up for anyone? I'm asking if, even though I was born elsewhere, I still qualify as a "Hampton Bays man? Is there a cutoff?

Just trying to wrap my mind around the rule here." Oct 15, 17 9:01 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

Is it still racist if many black people hold that same opinion?

Isn't it weird how every time there's a conservative academic of color, they're trotted out by the Republican party for everyone to see?

It's like "but I have black friends!"on a grand scale." Oct 15, 17 9:08 AM

Yes, that's why you can go into walmart and get a bazooka..." Oct 16, 17 8:59 AM

Current mood toward mass murder: ambivalent" Oct 16, 17 9:02 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

How would you describe the hand-wringing that follows any discussion of gun control?

At least I'm being honest in my resigned admission: mass murder is normal, deal with it." Oct 16, 17 10:30 AM

So, in your view, the 2nd Amendment is unlimited? How much is an RPG at the corner store?" Oct 16, 17 11:13 AM

Coincidentally, Obama was able to weather his storms with consistent job growth." Oct 16, 17 11:17 AM

Well, if you think weapons on the scale of RPGs should be readily available for public consumption and destruction...that's just stupid." Oct 16, 17 11:20 AM

You're the one repeating "WILL NOT BE INFRINGED" but apparently agree with the RPG ban? That sounds like an infringement, no?

If it's not an infringement, then you agree that some regulation is necessary and are merely weighing the benefits of such regulation against its downsides.

If it's an infringement, point me to the M1 Abram dealership." Oct 16, 17 11:32 AM

That doesn't explain the job loss last month, especially in the context of our soaring stock market.

It's the first month of job losses in 7 years and that's a FACT.

I hope it doesn't become a trend, but best believe I'll be reminding everyone about who's to blame if it does." Oct 16, 17 11:51 AM

You're characterizing the Heller decision: the holding was that the 2nd amendment guarantees the right to own a handgun in the home. It does not nullify Miller, which held that a sawed-off shotgun was not covered.

My point being that we already "INFRINGE" on the 2nd amendment as necessary: There's no consensus on military-style rifles, but regulations that experience public support DO exist.

If our goal is to decrease incidences of mass murder, or to decrease body counts when it occurs, target the technology that makes it possible to train for and carry out mass murder. Even if it's not the rifle itself, attachments that make automatic fire possible (despite that we already have extreme controls on automatic weapons) seem like an obvious choice.

On the other hand, if the status quo is acceptable and normal, let's own it." Oct 16, 17 12:07 PM

Your comment distilled is: "mass shootings are normal and there is nothing we can do to stop it."

If I'm wrong, and that's not what you mean, do tell: what do YOU think we should do? " Oct 16, 17 12:43 PM

So what does widow gavits think we should do? All ideas are welcome.

"Nothing" is a tacit admission that mass murder is a normal part of life in 2017." Oct 16, 17 1:10 PM

Thank you for your contemplation, Widow.

I think there's no single answer to the question of how to stop mass murder in 2017, and many of the potential answers, like unbridled "gun confiscation", would undoubtedly come with more perils than benefits.

At the same time, measured approaches may yield significant improvements over the status quo and we should all be open to evidence-based legislation." Oct 16, 17 1:58 PM

Your understanding of this conversation is really "po"

We're discussing mass murder, not "crime"" Oct 16, 17 3:03 PM

We're "at or near full employment"?

The "Laborforce participation Rate" that conservatives used to throw at Obama all the time hasn't shifted significantly in years." Oct 16, 17 3:06 PM

Do you really want to compare gun deaths in places with less guns to gun deaths in places with more guns?

Are you aware that the U.S. is not the only country in the world?" Oct 16, 17 3:36 PM

It sounded to me like widow was willing to contemplate rational, well-thought out legislation, don't be a jerk mets. " Oct 16, 17 5:52 PM

But...a majority of mass shooters in recent memory obtained their arms legally.

The problem wasn't "enforcing laws already on the books", it was that the current laws were insufficient, from the extra time (outside the maximum 48 hour waiting period) Adam Lanza's background check required to uncover his mental illness, to the ease with which Steven Paddock assembled a near-automatic arsenal. " Oct 17, 17 7:15 AM

You're 100% right on Adam Lanza, I meant Dylan Roof...too many mass murderers to keep them all straight.

In that case, the complete, and disqualifying, background check failed to materialize within 48 hours and the laws in play prohibited them from withholding the gun purchase past that time." Oct 17, 17 8:35 AM

Ah, thanks for the detail. It still looks like a gap that can be addressed, whether in extending the 48 hour waiting period, empowering stores with better background resources, or recruiting law enforcement to revoke the unlawful gun purchase." Oct 17, 17 9:12 AM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

I think the point of doing away with class rankings is that there are already plenty of objective measures of academic ability: SAT/ACT, AP, Regents, and other exams provide enough information to easily compare students across the state and country.

Add to that the contextual complications of evaluating class rankings (is it better to be #1 in School A or #5 in School B?) and it just seems logical that they wouldn't want to risk potentially hurting their students' chances during the college admissions process." Oct 17, 17 1:44 PM

If it doesn't seem logical, let me illustrate it better for you:

Say Student A gets a 2000 on the SAT and Student B gets a 2100, who performed better?

Now, say Student A is ranked #1 at Southampton and Student B is ranked #1 at Westhampton, who performed better?" Oct 17, 17 2:37 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

Lol, yes, you said some of them felt compelled to acquiesce because of their careers. That's called coercion." Oct 17, 17 2:38 PM

Yep, paddock's were all legally and easily bought.

He easily assembled an arsenal, and skillfully navigated the law by spacing out his purchases, which suggests our current regime of regulations is insufficient to stop mass murder." Oct 17, 17 2:41 PM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

If it doesn't seem logical, let me illustrate it better for you:

Say Student A gets a 2000 on the SAT and Student B gets a 2100, who performed better?

Now, say Student A is ranked #1 at Southampton and Student B is ranked #1 at Westhampton, who performed better?" Oct 17, 17 2:41 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

The "cost of doing business"?

That's outrageous and disgusting, even if it was acceptable or expected at the time.

Also, this didn't take place in the 50s, it was the 90s...." Oct 17, 17 2:58 PM

Chicago is a bad example because of the lax laws in the rest of Indiana. It doesn't really matter what Chicago does when one can hop on down the street to Gary and get their goods.

A better example would be NY State, which is nowhere near the top of the list for states with most gun deaths per capita. That dishonor is shared by Utah and Georgia." Oct 17, 17 3:01 PM

Way to cast your own point aside once it's discredited.

The point of new laws is not to keep guns out of criminals' hands; it's to minimize the damage that can be done when opportunity and inclination inevitably collide." Oct 17, 17 3:14 PM

Who wants to KEEP guns in criminals' hands? Where'd you get that from?

I'm acknowledging that it's impossible to do that, and suggesting that maybe we can agree on policy to reduce the amount of damage people whose minds are set on doing harm can do without running afoul of the 2nd amendment." Oct 17, 17 4:13 PM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

You hit it on the head: the class ranking has no quantifiable value in college admissions when comparing students from different schools and can only hurt students if it's not a flashy number.

They're still going to award the Salutorian and Valedictorian. If anything, awarding a number to everyone else is the participation trophy." Oct 17, 17 5:52 PM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

I actually agree with you there, 27dan: there's not enough interest in new legislation for us to do anything, so there you have it.

Ambivalence in the face of mass murder." Oct 17, 17 6:57 PM

From the comfort of computer chairs you all seem very bold.

I wonder if, in adolescence with careers hanging in the balance, you would all be equally empowered." Oct 17, 17 7:01 PM

The fault lies with the people abusing their power over others, not with the recipients of that abuse.

I would hope that my daughters are capable of recognizing and defending themselves from that abuse, but I wouldn't tell them it's their fault they were taken advantage of." Oct 17, 17 8:17 PM

I'm starting to think mets is not actually genuinely in favor of rational gun laws because he's sounding more like a "boogeyman" caricature from the NRA's wet dreams.

In contrast: I think there's common ground to be found on small but concrete steps to reduce the amount of harm people can do with firearms, and I don't think an all-inclusive registry, a la mets, is necessary to do that.

I don't think we'll actually find that common ground, but I believe it exists." Oct 17, 17 8:27 PM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

Ok, wise guy. Do you think a class ranking is a better metric?

Obviously SATs aren't the only thing admissions looks at (did anyone say that?) but the benefits of generating class rankings (which is the actual topic of this conversation) are meager compared to the risks." Oct 17, 17 8:30 PM

That's fair, if there was only one opportunity to take the exam and they were stuck with the grade (it isn't and they're not).

The student can also show consistency on their grades throughout their transcript, which is still going to be part of the admissions package.

I feel like a lot of people are modeling their answer after what school was like when they graduated...well,thinks have changed, including being able to take the SAT multiple times and only sending colleges your highest score. " Oct 18, 17 6:20 AM

Woman Upset After Piebald Deer Is Killed Near Her Hampton Bays Home

I'm no hunter so I'm curious: what would you have done differently?" Oct 18, 17 7:10 AM

Zeldin Votes Against Bipartisan Harvey Relief Bill After Debt Ceiling Measure Is Added

That's the problem with any discussion about gun-control: it gets taken over by fringe-loonies talking about registries and tyranny, and then the reasonable folks take the loudest voices as representative of their side.

For the folks who think the answer is an all-inclusive registry: it's never going to happen, the people aren't interested.

For the folks scared of the big bad gov't enacting martial law: the government IS US, it's you, your brothers, sisters and cousins who would carry out those orders, the very kind of illegal orders they have been educated by the military TO DISOBEY." Oct 18, 17 8:10 AM

Westhampton Beach Board Of Education Unanimously Votes To Get Rid Of Class Rank

Beyond a pat on the back, it doesn't really matter or mean anything if you win the race at most high schools, since the #1 class ranking in School A may be easier to attain than being in the top 25 at School B.

Coincidentally, class-ranking based admissions were the focus of an affirmative action case in Texas: UT accepts (accepted?) any applicant who is in the top 10% of their graduating class, irrespective of any other qualifications, resulting in greater diversity at their campus." Oct 18, 17 8:18 AM

There's actually plenty of risk, since the students cannot be easily compared against each other.

A non-flashy number will count against kids who attend higher-performing schools despite their having much more competition, whereas children who rank higher at worse schools will be looked at more favorably, despite having less competitive classmates." Oct 18, 17 8:39 AM

Schools Warn Parents Of New E-Cigarettes That Are More Easily Concealed--But Still Unwelcome

If your kids say there are no negative effects of vaping, ask if they've ever heard of "popcorn lung", an irreversible disease that affects the smaller airways in the lungs." Oct 18, 17 9:33 AM

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