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Helping swimmers spot rip currents is focus of beach group

I would say the title to this article is incorrect, for if these people were truly "swimmers" we wouldn't have to be so worried about them drowning when caught in a rip. Perhaps bathers or waders would more appropriately describe them.

OH NO!!! I used 'these people" I hope no one thinks I'm being racist against those who can't swim.... wait the unswimming among us aren't a race and neither are illegal aliens! 8-)" Jul 10, 10 7:37 PM

Condos proposed in return for saving Canoe Place Inn

LOL Supposedly is right! I don't know where you get your stories from, but citations would be interesting to see. You obviously know very little about local history, between 1635 - 1640 there were only Indians in this area. It was June 12 1640 that the first settlers landed in Conscience Point in North Sea. Tell me how the Inn could have possibly predated the first English settlers?

A review of historical deed transfers also disputes your claim, as property in the western portion of Southampton Town didn't begin to go into private ownership until well after 1700.

According to the book "Good Ground Remembered" by Henen M. Wetterau, page 142. "Canoe Place Inn dates back to about 1750 when Jeremiah Culver purchased property and built a small house at Canoe Place. It eventually became a stagecoach stop. Over the years the building had been enlarged and improved."

Even the Hampton Bays Historical Society's CPI info page refutes your claim, they have Jeremiah Culver opening a Tavern and Stagecoach Stop in 1739. Either way it very far from the old Inn site in America.

http://www.hamptonbayshistoricalsociety.org/canoeplaceinn/default.asp

" Jul 11, 10 10:54 PM

old should have been oldest in the last sentence.

For anyone going to the Hampton Bays Historical Society's webpage, you should take note that they have an error on there claiming the CPI to be the oldest continually operating Inn site in NYS, this is INNcorrect. The below Inn is part of the National Trust for Historic Preservation.

Here is a link to one which is older. http://www.beekmandelamaterinn.com/

Please anyone wishing to challenge what I have said be sure to back your claims up with facts, not just I read it somewhere. " Jul 11, 10 11:15 PM

Contractor, marina owner cited by DEC for dredging

Let us all not forget that Lake Montauk is essentially man altered due to Fischer opening it to the sea, changing it from fresh to salt water and introducing tidality. With all this considered it is pretty ridiculous to start ranting and raving about eelgrass which really shouldn't be there anyway. It wasn't turned into a harbor for the sake of eelgrass, clams, fish or any other living thing but Human Beings for their recreational needs. It is now a great benefit to those who make their living from the sea as well. The DEC is out of control and needs to be trimmed back substantially. Too Big for their Britches!" Jul 11, 10 11:32 PM

Condos proposed in return for saving Canoe Place Inn

I commend you for a non-partisn post!" Jul 13, 10 10:32 PM

No apology needed! Besides it wasn't your mistake in dates, it was the NY Times reporter's mistake and their subsequent digitizing of erroneous information without a footnote to correct it.
I don't dispute that the site has history, that is established and respected. Wether or not the current building has any true historical value is the real question. I don't happen to think it is old enough to merit historical designation. " Jul 13, 10 10:33 PM

Helping swimmers spot rip currents is focus of beach group

I was being sarcastic about my use of the phrase "these people" which when used to describe illegal aliens usually brings about accusations of racism. I was just stirring the pot a bit, why? Amusement, why? Bored, you nailed it!

As for your post I totally agree, if we were to keep stupid people out of the water there would be far fewer drownings! I say this from my position of being aware and
comfortable in the ocean on red flag days with real riptides formed from large groundswells. Know your limits and see tomorrow. " Jul 13, 10 10:43 PM

Sagaponack and town still wrestling to rein in crowds at popular beach gathering

Dirty Hippies! lol Impound the dogs.
Raise the fine for littering to $1000 and enforce it! If these people don't have the common decency to pick up after themselves they should pay for the clean up. Amazing that littering is a problem at such a pretty beach.... no class!
Parking.... if they are willing to pay the fine collect the money, the Town sure can use it. " Jul 15, 10 1:05 AM

7-Eleven quietly moving into Montauk

We all know the Delis especially the unnamed one by the docks are ridiculously overpriced. All those who say I will never go there, we will see what you do when you're out of something you need and it's 9:30 on a Tuesday in December. If they don't make it look like a traditional 7/11 and are willing to name it something else, it seems as if they are addressing some local concerns. Remember the Texaco that was there previously was a chain gas station as are two of the other stations in town Mobil & Exxon. Don't forget Ben & Jerry's down by Gosmanland either!" Jul 15, 10 1:17 AM

East Hampton Town officials under fire for Surf Lodge parking agreement

That would depend on how many tickets they write." Jul 15, 10 1:20 AM

I would guess part of the problem with the parking from the Surf Lodge is the aloofness of the patrons as they walk in the road as if it were a pedestrian thoroughfare. I think comparing the parking overflow from ENE to the Surf Lodge is like comparing the Titanic to the SS Minnow." Jul 15, 10 1:24 AM

“It’s not just the vehicles,” he said. “It’s the pedestrians walking down the road or on the white line. If someone had been killed there we’d be sitting here saying, ‘Why didn’t we do something about it?’ Well, we’re doing something about it.”

LOL.... Try the double yellow line, as if they own the freaking road!" Jul 15, 10 1:26 AM

East End farming community anxiously awaits local wheat crop

It's so "IN" to farm this season.... oh no, I think I'm going to puke....." Jul 15, 10 1:28 AM

Wainscott community members see disconnect in developer's vision for Plitt Ford property

Typical response from people who have moved out here and expect their struture to be the last thing built! Wainscott rural? Really, what planet are these people from!
I just love the suggestion that he build a community center, was she serious... is she that out of touch? I love how community groups speak for everyone based upon their own values beliefs and not on a consensus of the community. " Jul 15, 10 1:48 AM

7-Eleven quietly moving into Montauk

BEN & JERRY"S is a CHAIN store. "Chains" are already in MTK.... DUH!" Jul 15, 10 4:14 PM

Condos in exchange for Canoe Place Inn restoration plan receives mixed reviews

How is Canoe Place Inn zoned RWB when it is not waterfront?

Richard Casabianca, a lifelong Hampton Bays resident who once headed the hamlet’s historical society, called the Canoe Place Inn “Southampton Town’s number-one heritage aspect"

Is this guy out of his mind? There are many much more historic structures then this, North Sea Harbor for one, where the founders first came ashore. The Thomas Halsey House in Southampton circa 1648. The Pelletreau Shop circa 1686, which was a colonial silversmith. Even the Shinnecock Canal is older and more of a 'heritage aspect" " Jul 15, 10 5:41 PM

Connecticut casino employees file 11th-hour challenge to Shinnecock recognition

Losers, your days are numbered. This was a very poorly thought out move, the bad PR will haunt you for years to come. Like the Pequots didn't have any outside help in financing their recognition process. Instead of embracing and congratulating the Shinnecock, they stab them in the back.....FAIL!" Jul 15, 10 5:51 PM

Wind blows hot, cold over farm wind turbine

It's his property, so technically it's his view! As for the people driving by.... keep your eyes on the flippin road fools." Jul 15, 10 5:55 PM

Too bad for the birds, they will learn eventually, bats use sonar so I doubt they will be crashing into the turbine." Jul 15, 10 5:57 PM

7-Eleven quietly moving into Montauk

McDonalds can be privately owned "franchises" as well as Burger King, Wendy's, Taco Bell, Dunken Donuts etc..... " Jul 16, 10 11:47 AM

Don't welfare offices usually have tan or brown bricks as opposed to the bank like reddish bricks of the Sag Harbour 7/11." Jul 16, 10 11:50 AM

East Hampton Town Board approves wind turbine on Long Lane farm

Good stuff, finally some sensibility coming out of East Hampton!" Jul 16, 10 3:22 PM

Wainscott community members see disconnect in developer's vision for Plitt Ford property

Arizona's SB-1070, Love it.... Support it.... Hope it spreads to every state! " Jul 16, 10 11:31 PM

Southampton Town planner defends Tuckahoe planned development district

Jefferson Murphree is not on the Planning Board he doesn't make decisions on the projects that are before the PB. He is the Administrative Head of the Planning Department and his wife going before them causes no conflict of interest as he doesn't vote on the matters. As an Administrator he wouldn't recuse himself as a voting member of a board would. " Jul 17, 10 5:34 PM

You say overwhelming opposition of those who live here, Do you live in the immediate area? Southampton does need a decent grocery store, I don't really think it needs more retail space considering the vacancies on CR39. Maybe instead of seeking to completely stop this project, ways to scale it back should be explored. It is doubtful that it will be stopped, so try to make it bearable." Jul 17, 10 5:40 PM

Condos in exchange for Canoe Place Inn restoration plan receives mixed reviews

Why don't they have the right to put up a Wendy's if they chose? RWB allows for many uses, I don't see how they could be stopped if they chose that route, which of course they wouldn't.
How exactly is Tiderunners much better environmentally than the condos would be? I'm sure the bathrooms at Tiderunners get a good work out with many flushes all summer long. Then there is the kitchen and the various cleaners and degreasers used to clean it every night, all going into the septic system and the into ground or surface waters depending on their location.
The condos are to have a sewage treatment plant. " Jul 18, 10 7:33 PM

I still don't understand why it is RWB when it is not waterfront! This makes little sense, RB if there were such a thing, but RWB is ridiculous!" Jul 18, 10 7:35 PM

Wainscott community members see disconnect in developer's vision for Plitt Ford property

Spell Check.... Know how to use it?

What laws do think should be optional? Obviously you think those concerning how one enters our country are optional, any others?" Jul 19, 10 4:32 PM

That is partly true, certain items are far more expensive there. If you use it as your only supermarket you will pay more for the common items than you would at a Stop & Shop. If you get what is only available at WBN and then get your other items at King Kullen or Stop & Shop. The rewards card at WBN keeps track of what you spend each month and they send out a coupon for between 10-20% off your total bill. " Jul 19, 10 4:41 PM

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