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Revised Canoe Place Inn Proposal Is Receiving Mixed Reviews

"We are to get 40 condos in exchange for a fake facade on a catering hall"

Could you show me where you read in the MPDD that this is what is planned?

" Aug 27, 13 9:07 AM

Proposed Wastewater Treatment Plant Angers Hampton Bays Residents

Based on what? What Nature tells you?" Aug 29, 13 7:25 PM

If you were unaware it is because you weren't paying attention. This has been known since the original plan was presented to the public. Where were you?

There have been numerous public meetings. Countless news articles. etc. If you aren't paying attention it isn't the Rechlers or the towns fault.

Not to mention, at least 2 of the people who complained don't actually leave close the the property in question. " Aug 29, 13 7:27 PM

Get in touch with the Town or the Rechlers or the Suffolk County Dept. of Health. They can give you the facts on the Nitrex System. Find out what is being proposed. If you have missed the entire thing up until now, it is about time you did due diligence and find out the facts. Make an educated decision, not one based on groundless fears." Aug 29, 13 7:32 PM

Taxes always go up. Not sure why that is mentioned in this debate. " Aug 29, 13 8:12 PM

Ummm, that was supposed to be:

"don't actually live close to the property". " Aug 29, 13 8:13 PM

Definition of PRIVATIZE
: to make private; especially : to change (as a business or industry) from public to private control or ownership

The Rechlers and their investors own the property. The Rechlers and their investors will own whatever is built on this property. Private property will still be private property. Please explain what is being privatized.

50 years ago the Inn was not a nightclub.

Public access...I have never ever seen anyone 'access' this piece of property unless they are going to one of the private buildings. No one walks on it. I've never seen anyone fish on it. What exactly is this public access that will be so missed? Should they decide to build a motel on the property as of right the access will be the same as it will be if they build Town Homes.

If you think the other places can "go residential" based on this PDD you have no idea how this all works.

You are right it is absurd and shameful that people don't bother to make their decisions based on facts. " Aug 29, 13 10:01 PM

Yes. It was in the original plan. Yes I am sure. Ask the Town Board.

There have been meetings held at all of the local community organizations. Were you there? Are you a member of a community group? Are you involved in the community? If so, you would have heard about this. Do you read the newspaper? If so, you could have read the news coverage. Watch our public TV station's coverage of the Town Board Meetings? You would have seen it. There was a PUBLIC meeting held at the high school over a year ago. At that time the Bay Keeper was advocating for the Nitrex System, even though it was not yet approved by SCDH. Were you there? It's great that you are educating yourself at the last minute, but it doesn't mean that the information wasn't out there for years. This was not a secret.

Get the facts. Have you met with the engineers? They offered to meet with the community. Did you tour the Nitrex facility? Have you researched NITREX? Educating oneself doesn't mean listening to your neighbor who has no actual knowledge of planning, construction, engineering or any other aspects of a project of this size.

No, the SCHD can not comment on the project. Nor did anyone say they could. Yes, they can comment on the NITREX system. Especially since they are the ones who approved it for use in the County. Not that the state of our bays are of any interest to the detractors.

It is disingenuous to state that it is in your backyard when it is no where near your home.

By all means, get involved. The community organizations are always looking for willing workers.

I don't care if you support the project. You are entitled to your opinions and so is everyone else. I do care that people make educated decisions.

All letters to the Town Board are always entered into the public record. Nothing is different about this process than any others that have been put forth in the town. No greater import is put on this subject than others have in the past. Voice your support!

This article had much more "gold-flecked fecal matter" in it then anyone would ever get from a waste water treatment plant. " Aug 29, 13 11:36 PM

As it is zoned now I can go to a private business and pay for the ability to see the canal. Under the PDD we can all walk along the walkway for FREE!

Who is putting up a fake facade? Please share your source on this one.
" Aug 30, 13 8:18 AM

Yes they absolutely do and have.

Why let a little thing like the facts get in the way of a discussion based on misinformation and personal, uneducated opinion." Aug 30, 13 8:22 AM

Who knows.

Disinformation doesn't mean that the project is not sound. The decision remains with the Town Board. I am sure they are aware of the facts and that will be what they base their decision on.

" Aug 30, 13 9:55 AM

Revised Canoe Place Inn Proposal Is Receiving Mixed Reviews

The information on donations to candidates is available on the Board of Elections website. Go have a look.

Cheap land? Guess I missed a golden opportunity. The seller must have been unaware of the value of the property since they sold it "cheap". Why didn't someone else jump on this steal? I'd have thought the renters on the east side who knew the property was for sale and their leases may not be renewed, would have jumped on it! Cheap waterfront! WOW, now ya tell us.

You claim to be concerned about our waterways, yet you want to scrap a plan that will provide the most protection for our waterways. Building as of right improves nothing. The density will be greater as of right since the PDD does not increase density on the west side. And again, less protection for the waterways that you are so rightly worried about.

It is a constant source of amusement to me that people don't ever bother to research and find the answer. Guess it is much more fun to just make stuff up." Aug 30, 13 10:06 AM

Silly Silly PQ1 there ya go with reality again! " Aug 30, 13 10:08 AM

Proposed Wastewater Treatment Plant Angers Hampton Bays Residents

Has been there been a problem with existing treatment systems in our town? " Aug 30, 13 12:37 PM

"Fact: the density of the 40 town houses is immense for the acreage which is why the developers are seeking a zone change"

"Immense" Source please?

Fact: It is typical for the town board to send developers back to the drawing board during this process.

Fact: The NITREX systems - by design - can not be placed on property on the canal. Have you spoken to anyone with knowledge about the system yet?

Fact: The Town Board will make their decision based on input from the community. That is exactly how this process got to be where it is. No one has ever denied anyone their opinion in this or any other plan in our hamlet. Allowing all voices, no matter how nonsensical, is absolutely a part of the democratic practices of our country and has been a part of this saga since the beginning. No one has taken away any rights here. It is your right to pay attention. It is your right to not pay attention. It is even your right to voice completely unfounded opinions.

Hearing from both sides is not a new thought. When listening to different perspectives you must keep in mind that property owners have rights. They will and should be protected by the law. It is not your right to tell your neighbor to build a park on their property or how to use their property, Or put their cesspools somewhere else. It is not your right to tell someone to swap their property for another piece somewhere that YOU don't live. It is not your right to demand someone do what you think should be done.

"Separate the facts from the emotions and see things clearly."

I urge you to follow your own advice." Aug 30, 13 12:52 PM

Are you suggesting they won't know they are purchasing next to a road going over the bridge? LOL

Not that they can't complain - look at the North Sea Residents who want to close the entire North Sea Rd because there is noise. That didn't go to far.

" Aug 30, 13 12:55 PM

"Immense" is not a quantitative figure. It is an opinion.

Thanks for agreeing. That was the point I was attempting to make." Aug 30, 13 1:06 PM

What a concept- you mean they'd be allowed to do that?" Aug 30, 13 1:07 PM

Immense as compared to?

Sorry considering the posters have already said they have no clue what goes on in our town saying it is 'immense' is designed to cause issues, not based on any fact.

Dang, there is that word again." Aug 30, 13 4:37 PM

(Psstt...I know, I was being factious! Insert appropriate emoticon here)" Aug 30, 13 4:38 PM

I am sure Nature that you would be able to say this based on the fact that you have been paying attention for the past two decades. However the op (who I was responding to) didn't know anything about the MPDD until the Town put up the legal notices and TOLD them. There is no reason to believe that when they state it is "immense" it is based on anything factual. Just more scary sounding words. Debate is good. But at least try and learn what is truth before you go spouting off nonsense.

Let's face it, those who haven't heard about this saga clearly weren't paying attention. To wake up at the last second and pass around unfounded thoughts and swear they are fact is not beneficial to anyone.

None of these projects are ever going to make everyone happy. There are many facets to be considered. The best that can be hoped for is that the majority is happy, our community is benefited and that our environment is preserved. Is it a perfect system? Absolutely not. But until someone finds one that is, it is the one that we are stuck with.

Clearly, the "30 Residents" don't give a hoot about the environment or they would be finding out the facts about what can be built. The NITREX system is better for our bays. But, who cares?? Someone who knows diddly on the subject of waste water treatments 'thinks' that it will be smelly, noisy and ugly. Which by the way, I can understand why they would think that...what a great selling point for the owners! " Aug 31, 13 4:06 PM

UPDATE: Services Scheduled For Hampton Bays Woman Killed In Flanders Road Crash

Well the DOT was out there this afternoon working on the potholes. I am sure it is a coincidence.

My sympathies to the family of Mrs. Tocci. So very sad.
" Jan 16, 14 7:27 PM

Flanders Man Pleads Not Guilty To Charges In Fatal Hampton Bays Accident

I was just wondering the same thing. He is remorseful for something that happened but he why would he be since he wasn't guilty even though he was drunk and killed someone. Really, someone is confused." Jan 23, 14 5:04 PM

No I understand. I just think that the lawyer's words could have been better chosen. He sounds a bit foolish.

" Jan 24, 14 8:18 AM

I understand it...as I said above, the lawyer's words were poorly chosen. "He recognizes that this is a tragedy, and he obviously didn't intend for any of this to happen and he wishes none of it took place." I should hope he recognizes it is a tragedy and of course he didn't intend for it to happen and wishes it didn't. What's his point? Everyone is 'not guilt'. That seems to be status quo these day. Yes it does seem as though the fact that he is a 'single father' is supposed to help his situation. Not sure that works either. He's a single father who was out at 4am, drunk and chose to drive. Not the best of role models. " Jan 24, 14 8:23 AM

Local Couples Share Their Love Stories

What a lovely story!
" Feb 16, 14 11:15 AM

State Police Looking For Missing Shinnecock Man

Well there is now a photo but no update?
" Mar 2, 14 7:44 PM

Police: Couple Left Children Alone In Car While They Went Shopping In Hampton Bays

Why are you sure of that? I have seen other instances where parents have been arrested in similar situations.

" Mar 2, 14 7:46 PM

Oddone Pleads Guilty To Manslaughter Charge

Not surprising that you are a friend of Anthony's. As soon as I read your inane comment I figured you were.

Behind us? Seriously? Are you saying that Mr. Oddone is just moving ahead with his life without any compunction for what happened? Even if he thinks he was blameless, which doesn't seem to be the case since he ran out of the establishment after the altercation, are you saying that he will now forget and move on? I seriously hope he isn't that heartless.

As far as the Reisters, yes, they will go on with their lives, lives that were horribly altered because Mr. Oddone wanted to dance on a table top. Seems a bit absurd in the scheme of things doesn't it?

Your comment is seriously frightening. It isn't like he ran over a dog by accident. A man died. For what?

" Mar 2, 14 7:55 PM

UPDATE: Baykeeper McAllister Says He Was Fired Illegally: Denies Charges Of Affair

From the article it seems like there is more to it than just the supposed relationship with this individual. Am I the only one that read they are saying he "was abusing alcohol while on the job"? Additionally the text that was quoted certainly indicates that there was an ongoing discussion before this occurred. As usual, no one here knows all the particulars of what transpired. While this may be a shock to the community, it doesn't mean that it was a shock to the organization. I don't know the truth, but I do know that people are typically not fired for no reason what so ever...especially when they were as visible as Mr. McAllister." Mar 21, 14 8:03 AM

I seem to be reading a different article than you. I didn't see anything like that written. ???
" Mar 21, 14 8:05 AM

Yes, it states that she is the "Communications Director". Nothing odd there.

" Mar 21, 14 8:11 AM

Well said. People 'care' but only if it means it doesn't affect their way of life directly. Save the bays - but don't take away my chemicals. Save the bays - but don't put up a waste water treatment plant. Save the bays - but let me clear cut my property. " Mar 21, 14 8:13 AM

UPDATE: Driver Charged With DWI In Fatal Car Crash

My sympathies to the family. What a tragedy.
" Apr 19, 14 8:41 PM

Southampton Masons Celebrate 100 Years

Congratulations Gentlemen!
" Jun 11, 14 10:35 PM

Shinnecock Indian Nation Angered By Kardashian Posing In Headdress

They weren't in the Hamptons, they were in California. Where would you like them to go? I am not a fan, but seriously, if you are looking for an insult you are sure to find one." Jun 26, 14 10:08 PM

Former Peconic Baykeeper Launches New Group

I completely agree. They changed it, but I am still wondering why his marital status has anything to do with his professional life.

But then again, the Press seems to love the dirt.
" Jul 3, 14 8:18 AM

Owner Of Illegal Apartments In Hampton Bays Cited With 50 Violations, Faces $100,000 In Fines

While it is great that the Town finally did their job, one wonders what exactly took them so long to get around to doing it. This is not a new situation and it is only one of many long standing rentals with violations.

Let's see if they continue the momentum or if it was a token to shut people up." Jul 3, 14 8:23 AM

UPDATE: Police Identify Woman Who Drowned In Hampton Bays Swimming Pool

Can't release any info; can't say who it was, but you can give the street address?

" Jul 11, 14 7:59 AM

Flanders Road Warning Signs Could Be Moved Back From Highway

That doesn't make sense to me...a business owner can not put up a sign without a permit and that is on their private property. People have had their small signs taken down when they've had work done, ie landscaping, pool company, etc. That is on private property.

There are plenty of signs that are up that have no permit. That doesn't make it right and it makes it annoying for those who follow the laws. Why bother to adhere to the laws if no one has to take them down if they are in violation of the law." Jul 24, 14 8:53 PM

Southampton Town Will Seek Injunction To Close Illegal Hampton Bays Apartment Complex

Do tell SHTownHB? Half of the CAC this is juicy. Can you back that up with specifics? " Jul 24, 14 8:58 PM

New Signs Along Flanders Road Warn About Dangers Of Distracted Driving

I don't think it is political, it is the law. It isn't a certain party's law, it is the law.

Does anyone actually think that a large billboard is going to stop people from texting? Looks like just another distraction.
" Jul 25, 14 9:44 AM

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