From what I understand based on a witness they were beating on him to let go, he didn't or wouldn't. It didn't take too long before it was too late and he left.
Regardless of whether he was a good friend, Friend of Tony, someone died because of his actions. Not sure how one thing has anything to do with the other. All he had to do was get off a table, he chose not to which started the chain of events. Friend or not, he killed someone in anger. " Apr 15, 10 8:17 AM
Yes he was. I fondly remember his parents as well. Very sad news." May 5, 10 3:49 PM
Mr. Lupia was a wonderful man who was dedicated to our community. He shall be greatly missed." May 5, 10 3:53 PM
This building is still in use. If there are health and fire issues our Town Inspectors should be closing it down. Which is it, a trap or a great night spot? The Town needs to figure it out." May 5, 10 3:56 PM
This is too common a story, people build what they want regardless of the building department's input; or without the proper permits, then complain when the Town asks them to rectify the situation. They created the situation by not doing what they were supposed to do. It is easy to get carried away with renovations, doesn't mean they should get away with building what they weren't supposed to build." Jun 24, 10 1:12 PM
The King Kullen PDD was a perfect example. The problem is not the buildings the problem is that in order to build more than "as of right" there was a benefit to the town. The benefit wasn't supposed to be King Kullen. The benefit was the town building that was built and rented to us for an outrageous amount monthly. How is that a benefit to the Town? The other benefit was the "park" that was built on the site. Have you seen the park? Probably not since it doesn't exist. Or if it does it certainly doesn't look like a park since no one seems to know that it is there.
The benefit to the town is not supposed to be the buildings that are built. Yes, we needed another supermarket. Was that a good reason for the Town to allow more than "as of right"" Jul 1, 10 6:22 PM
It had to have been a PDD because it is much larger than what it used to be. In order to play let's make a deal there is a PDD. If someone comes along and wants to build "as of right" it a PDD isn't needed. Of course, why would anyone want to build "as of right" when clearly SHT will allow them to build much much much more!
ENOUGH already!" Jul 8, 10 6:20 PM
One way or the other there are condos...this way they are only on one side of the canal. They are "upscale" condos. They own the property on both sides of the canal, no matter what the fate of the Canoe Place Inn, they were building on both sides. " Jul 8, 10 6:24 PM
"He later called them back, explaining that he made a mistake, and then signed a second affidavit stating that he had been contacted by Officer McManus and Southampton Town Police Benevolent Association President Pat Aube, the latter of whom Lt. Gonce said was already aware of Ms. Kabot’s arrest. "
Right there at the end of the article." Jul 8, 10 10:16 PM
Who said that they are building "new low rent apartments"? I seem to have missed that. Instead of building a 4 story luxury time share on the west side of the canal, they are building condos on the east side. Surely we all realize that they were going to build on both sides of the canal one way or the other. They didn't buy the parcel on the east to let it sit there with a bunch of drunks partying on the dock at Tiderunners. They were asking for a footbridge, that was so their residents could get to the other large structures they were planning on building." Jul 8, 10 10:26 PM
"Oldest Inn in the Country (to our knowledge*)
1. Oldest Inn in Maine & New England (if above is true)"
They don't sound too sure of themselves here do they? Which others ones are there? Is there a limit on historic inns that should be left standing?
Everyone groans about how HB is dumped on, then they refuse to have any vision and try to allow something that would add character or charm.
" Jul 8, 10 10:34 PM
I would love to have had them "save" the racetrack, even if it wasn't in HB. Surely we could have more than 1 historical thing saved? Not to mention, 1 thing left in HB?" Jul 9, 10 12:54 PM
Would you think she should have given someone else's name? That is her name. When you get stopped by the police and they ask your name, you give them your name. If she said I am Linda Kabot Supervisor, then I'd agree with you. Otherwise, what was she supposed to say?
I noticed in the paper that Officer Gonce had been demoted and has now been promoted. Then his name appears here also. Anyone know what that is all about?" Jul 9, 10 4:18 PM
I thought she lived in Quogue...how would she drive from WHB to Quogue and go through SHT?
Also, she'd had a drink, she never said she didn't. She said she wasn't DRUNK. The roadside test is not 100% and is prone to tamper. If she hadn't had a sip of anything alcoholic at all, then I'll bet she'd have taken it. Still doesn't prove she was drunk.
You say WHB has nothing to do w/SHT yet Pat Aube figures into this equation and I thought he was with SHT.
Why did the officers turn off the camera which was against policy? Surely you have to think something is curious here." Jul 9, 10 4:23 PM
So the officers not following departmental procedures is ok? Is that just because it was Linda or are they allowed to do it all the time?
Whether or not she was drunk, the Officers were wrong in what they did also. " Jul 9, 10 4:24 PM
If we have Police Officers who don't follow procedures, we have more problems than whether or not Linda was drunk.
There are TWO issues here...was Linda drunk, does the WHB Police misuse their authority and follow policies. " Jul 9, 10 4:27 PM
Restore the CPI, CLEAN UP THE AREA. Why does cleaning up the area have to include tearing down the Inn. Do people still not understand that the Inn as we know it will not exist after the Rechlers are done? No one wants what is there now to remain. Restoration means it will be restored ie fixed up, made respectable, CLEANED UP... not left as an abused building.
The Rechlers are businessmen. Apparently they think this is a good business decision or they would not be making it.
" Jul 9, 10 4:43 PM
They are doing what developers always do...asking for more than they really want so they can haggle it down to something "realistic" which is generally still more than they should have.
The plan truly hasn't changed much. Just the location. One way or the other there was going to be construction on both sides of the canal." Jul 9, 10 6:34 PM
If this wasn't Linda, would it be ok for the Police to go again police dept. procedures? " Jul 9, 10 6:38 PM
Exactly, why does he have anything to do with WHB? " Jul 9, 10 7:08 PM
I absolutely agree!! Wouldn't that be great? " Jul 9, 10 9:23 PM
No one said the INN was built in 1635...this is the oldest continually used site. Check out your research and not just what you find in Mrs. Wetterau's book. There are plenty of publications which predate that and offer more information" Jul 13, 10 11:13 PM
Do you honestly believe that if the Inn is destroyed they will NOT build condos? There is no plan, no where that do not include condos. They did not spend millions purchasing acres of property to build nothing.
4 story structure on one side and who knows what on the other; or two stories on both sides, which includes preserving an "historic" Inn.
There are condos, no matter what, they aren't asking us they have the right and that is what they plan." Jul 13, 10 11:15 PM
Guess the rest of the towns that want affordable housing will have to take East Quogue's share?
Who would that be exactly?
" Jul 15, 10 11:39 AM
But would you call your friends, politicians and PBA representatives? It was after midnight, why call them?
I don't know if Linda was drunk and she surely should be prosecuted if she was. BUT, that doesn't mean the cops can do whatever they want. There are 2 stories here, not one." Jul 18, 10 9:15 AM
Cheyne has always been a great kid! Thanks for printing this story.
Well done Cheyne!" Jul 18, 10 9:17 AM
I don't get it either. Why would she still want to stay with him and why in the world would you grant an order of protection that keeps you in the same house. I love the "bars him from threats or acts of violence" line. That is the stupidest thing I ever heard of. Does anyone really think those words will change his anger? Of course if I were Ms. Major I'd be long gone." Jul 22, 10 11:00 PM
Good point." Jul 28, 10 11:24 PM
What do you mean it is under water? I seem to have missed that part." Aug 8, 10 9:51 PM
"Hampton Bays United—a group that includes 14 leaders representing the Hampton Bays Civic Association"
Who are these 14 "leaders" does anyone know? Do they have names? Does the Press know who they are or who they represent?
" Aug 25, 10 9:10 PM
Are you sure about that as-of-right thing? You'd better make sure that you double check your facts before doing as some do and passing on bad information. According to the article, the Town will present exactly what they are entitled to as of right. That should be interesting.
This developer has I am sure, done his homework. Finding out what is as of right and whether it would be viable would be part of that homework.
I do know that there is a question of whether or not the PDD sewage plant is appropriate. With as of right there is no sewage treatment plant. Same thing with the Allen's Acres condos, they built as of right and there is no sewage treatment plant. The PDD plant may not be top of the top, not sure that has even been stipulated, but at least there is one.
This entire thing is a game and a Civic group that presents half truths and misdirection is not serving its community." Aug 26, 10 4:16 PM
Yes they are. Mary Jean claims that it isn't state of the art. The point was that without a PDD there is no treatment, state of the art or not.
"The United group is just the executive committee members of all of the HB associations."
Sorry this is not true. " Aug 26, 10 9:07 PM
They can build a lot more that you seem to think. " Aug 26, 10 9:08 PM
That makes sense. I figured there had to be some approval of it other than by the developer." Aug 26, 10 9:59 PM
I wouldn't begin to debate that anything to do with the town defies logic! " Aug 26, 10 10:36 PM
You certainly have a point. They do own the property they do have property rights. Why is it that no one thought of the possibility of development BEFORE the property was sold. I seem to remember a plan a few years back to develop the canal area as a "wharf" similar to Gossman's in Montauk. Oh my these same people were in an uproar. Now, we are looking at more development. Unfortunately development happens and forward thinking is needed. After the property is sold there is little you can do since people, all people even developers, have rights. I am not for development but unfortunately the only thing you can do is attempt to control it, which seems to be happening in this case.
As for the terms of the restoration, this is exactly what Ms. Throne-Holst has been saying. They are working on the details of a contract that would stipulate what needed to be done for the restoration as well as a time line. They can not build condos then ignore the Inn. Also, these restraints would pass on to any subsequent owners. The Inn would be preserved for all time. Can anyone around here think of another instance where this has happened in Hampton Bays? No, we have no landmarks law. Why don't the Civic start arguing for that, for FUTURE buildings?
During at least two meetings Ms. Throne-Holst has discussed what contracts would be in place if the PDD goes forward, that will provide for proper restoration of the Inn. Meetings including the Town Historian will be held with the developers to insure that the proper materials will be used, it will be historically accurate, etc. At this point Ms. Green accused Ms. Throne-Holst of wasting our tax dollars and representing the developers. Ridiculous. The community asked the Town Board to really truly represent us for once in a PDD and when they do they are accused of wasting tax dollars and representing the developers. Who is supposed to present this to us? " Aug 27, 10 9:50 AM
Thanks for the back up.
The question has been asked about what assurances we'd have, which is valid. " Aug 27, 10 2:10 PM
Actually Tamaany Hall was after the 1920s...hence this building.
If the Rechlers preseve the facade as they have offered or not, it shall still bring in jobs. Surely you realize that no one wants to keep the building in the state it is in, nor do they want a bar/club there. Additionally restoration removes the fire hazard, perhaps you need reread what the intent is." Aug 31, 10 4:25 PM
I didn't address the condos, you said to tear down the building. That is two different things.
There will be condos regardless of the Inn is torn down or not." Aug 31, 10 7:27 PM
The tiderunners is a landmark? You have to be kidding!
" Aug 31, 10 7:28 PM
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