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Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas Spota’s office has dropped a trespassing charge filed against an East Quogue woman in July after she was arrested for taking pictures of the Air National Guard base in Westhampton, while she had two guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in her car.
The decision to dismiss the misdemeanor charge filed against 53-year-old Nancy Genovese was made following an investigation conducted by the DA’s office, and comes less than one month after she filed separate lawsuits against Suffolk County and Southampton Town alleging that she was falsely arrested.
The misdemeanor charge was dropped on November 17 after an investigation found that Ms. Genovese had remained inside her car and outside the base’s property at Gabreski Airport just prior to her arrest, Robert Clifford, a spokesman for the DA, wrote in an e-mail.
The dismissal came after Ms. Genovese filed identical lawsuits on October 23—one with the Southampton Town clerk’s office, naming the town as a defendant, and one with the Suffolk County Clerk’s office, naming the county as a defendant. The lawsuits allege that Ms. Genovese was arrested and imprisoned “without probable cause or other legal justification,” that her vehicle was searched and her two guns were seized unlawfully, that she was verbally abused by Suffolk County Sheriff’s Department officers while she was detained, and a slew of other charges related to her arrest and subsequent detention.
Ms. Genovese’s lawsuits do not list the amount of money she is seeking in damages but charge that she’s owed “reasonable compensation to be determined by a jury, punitive damages, and attorneys’ fees and expenses.” The Manhattan law firm representing her in her civil case did not return calls seeking comment.
“Apparently, they can arrest you for anything they want and say, ‘Oops, sorry,’” Ms. Genovese said of her arrest and the subsequent dismissal of her charges. “They tried me, they found me guilty, and they were going to punish me in there.”
Ms. Genovese was arrested on July 30 by Suffolk County sheriff’s deputies after Air National Guard officials said they saw her taking photographs near the entrance of the base at Gabreski Airport. Authorities said they found an XM-15 assault rifle and a shotgun—both registered and unloaded—in her car, and an estimated 500 rounds of ammunition in her trunk at the time of her arrest. She said she was on the way home from a shooting range at the time of her arrest.
She was charged with third-degree criminal trespassing and was released four days later from the Suffolk County Jail in Riverside after posting $50,000 bail.
Most of Ms. Genovese’s allegations detailed in her lawsuits were directed at the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Department.
Suffolk County Attorney Christine Malafi declined this week to comment on the specific charges, citing the pending litigation. But Ms. Malafi noted that the county has requested a deposition from Ms. Genovese in response to her claim. During the deposition, which might be given in December, the county will question Ms. Genovese about the allegations and her background.
“My office looks forward to vigorously defending the county against her claims,” Ms. Malafi said. “The Sheriff’s Department did what they thought they had to do to protect public safety.”
Chief Michael Sharkey with the Suffolk County Sheriff’s Department said Tuesday that his office was aware of the lawsuit filed by Ms. Genovese but could not comment on it.
When reached last Thursday, November 19, Ms. Genovese said that Sheriff’s Department officers failed to tell her she was under arrest until about 2 a.m. on July 31, after she had been questioned without a lawyer present for about eight hours. Ms. Genovese said officers with the Sheriff’s Department only told her she was under arrest after they had found her Myspace.com profile online, which Ms. Genovese said expresses politically conservative viewpoints.
At that point, Ms. Genovese said, officers began calling her a “right-wing extremist.” She said a similar characterization by a county prosecutor, whose name she could not recall, at her arraignment contributed to a Southampton Town Justice Court’s decision to set her bail excessively high, and led her to believe she was being treated unjustly by authorities for her political beliefs.
“Even if it was a trespass [third-degree] violation, who gets a $50,000 bail?” said Ms. Genovese who described herself as a “conservative” person. “It’s absurd.”
The lawsuits also level some charges against Southampton Town Police. Ms. Genovese’s lawsuits allege that an off-duty Southampton Town Police officer originally approached Ms. Genovese while she was taking pictures while sitting in her car and outside the base, demanded that she hand over her camera, and then alerted Suffolk County sheriffs and base officials of her presence.
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The ANG base is hardly a top secret location. It is accessible from many points on its periphery and old air force structures are rented out to people who access them on ANG roadways.
Justice would include Ms. Genovese being given an official apology from the ANG commander, the Suffolk Sheriff who arrested her, and, last but far ... more from least, the off-duty STPD lieutenant who "reported" her behavior, together with reimbursement with any legal costs she may have incurred. Drinks and dinner wouldn't be a bad idea either. Her attorney should make all these a requirement, in addition to a substantial monetary sum, as the reward to compensate her for defamation of character.
The stupidity of this incident would be mind-boggling anywhere else in the United States, but on the East End, alas, it is s.o.p. Note that it was instigated by an cop from the STPD, an organization that removed the word, "discretion", from its dictionary decades ago.
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Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
The rounds were about 140, not 500. There is nothing wrong with pulling over to the side of the road, opposite the display chopper and taking pictures. The firearms have nothing to do with any of this.
There is no intent to cause harm. After 6 hours on the road, the FBI DHS the base and other initials I don't remember, released me...why did a low level police offer ... more arrest me for a charge that is not even a legal charge? Why did they lie through their teeth about me? I have a perfect background so they made up lies to "sell papers."
Why did I have to pay all that money to prove I an innocent?
Anyone who has had to deal with bad police officers, will not speak well of them. You and I both know, we have good and bad cops, we have abusive cops and this is what I had to deal with, corrupt bad cops.
Do you have any idea how long it would take for me to get out of my convertible, remove the triple locks and cases on each firearm, remove them from the LOCKED cases, open the truck and load these firearms?
Dont be ridiculous.
This entire event is a travesty of justice, a BIG injustice.
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
ex: http://www.gearthhacks.com/dlfile7055/Gabreski-Airport,-Westhampton-Beach,-NY.htm
Total comments by Quioguebirder: 8
What is everyone sooooo scared about that they need enough firepower to "assault" something or someone.
You know what's really scary? That someone in the car next to you might have the same or more in the trunk of their car! That's actually something ... more to get a little paranoid about.
Total comments by HarborDad: 9
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
There are nuts all over the world with illegal weapons, people who go to the range, join the NRA, register their firearms when its not even required by New York state, have no prior arrests, and so on, are not the ones you need to worry about.
BTW it is an AR 15, semi ... more auto, an arms specialist looked at them on the road in those six hours. I have no assault weapons, only firearms for target practice.
Its the illegal guns and people who do not follow the law you have to worry about. I didn't break any laws.
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
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Ohhh..... that word I hear middle school kids use on a daily basis??
...as the kid said one day at the dinner table, "I don't get it Dad. Who chooses which finger is the bad finger to point at someone?"
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Total comments by PrivateerMatt: 300
They had us on the road for 5-6 hours, questioning me. The big scene they made is where the problem lies. They made a mistake and had to justify the over reaction.
There had to be 100 people running back and forth with troops, FBI, FEMA DHS and so on., all with a cell in their ear, "taking orders from way up there."
The scene was a ridiculous amount of force. Look at the default pic of me, ... more that was taken by Vera Chinese of the Southampton Press about one hour after I was home. You can see the bruises on my arms from some abuse inside the jail. A correctional officer told me as soon as I went in, "we tried you, we found you guilty and we will punish you in here." And they did.
I was also told over and over again, "we will make an an example of you for all right wingers and tea baggers."
This is such an injustice. I believe there will be many more of these arrests because of the white house release of their labels, "right wing extremists", bible loves, returning vets, now being labeled home terrorists.
I am creating a professional page for anyone wrongfully arrested. I will fight this and other injustices against law biding American citizens being abused by our law enforcement.
Thanks for your input. Nancy
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
She was licensed to carry the weapon, and ammo, and yes I think she was on her way to or from a shooting range.
NO LAWS WERE BROKEN !!!
Why was she arrested? Over-zealous police action IMO.
Harbor Dad and peoplefirst, you are IMO fear-mongering based on "what ifs" which do NOT apply to this case. Just the facts, please.
Total comments by PBR: 193
The NRA has turned this country back into the wild west with way too many weapons and way too many killings. This woman was so over-armed that it would have been extremely imprudent had they done nothing, regardless of licenses which can be faked. The police did the right thing and, in the end she was acquitted. Maybe she'll have learned a lesson.
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
You would take away the freedom to bear arms given to us in the Constitution. What would you take next? The freedom of speech for not agreeing with you?
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Total comments by INS: 524
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
As for a knife I could probably get 10-15 no problem! LOL
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Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
Total comments by INS: 524
I don't think you're funny, Ins. In fact, if you think that your postings are helping make the case for gun owners, you are mistaken. ... more You have only helped to make the case for those of us who believe that certain people should not be allowed to own weapons.
Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
Total comments by INS: 524
People have become so paraonoid ove the use/ownership of guns they have forgotten just exactly what it is that creates a weapon....the person weilding it. A gun, a knife, a fork, or any other object for that matter is just that, an object. It is the irresponsible person who uses the item wrongly that makes it dangerous.
Total comments by Upstatecitizen: 2
Perhaps you need to read and pay more attention to the exploding spectrum of international and domestic terrorism news , and a little less time on 27E. The time to learn how to use a firearm isnot AFTER some demented student, ex -Army sniper, psychiatrist, or domestic terrorist has laid waste to your neighborhood. No one is asking people to go all Rambo. BUT, if one is constitutionally and mentally capable, it behooves one to develop the skill set before one needs ... more it. For example, aren't all young adults trained in Israel to manage guns?
The sad news, as we have learned on multiple occasions, is that terrorism is NOT a problem confined to "other" places. Be Prepared, as the Boy Scouts would tell you.
ALL firearms are weapons that kill. Can you please lose that ridiculous "scary assault weapon " lingo? -- it is SUCH an uninformed, ignorant, fear-inciting media misnomer. What do the other weapons do? Slap you on the wrist? Sheesh. In the USA, we have MILLIONS of LICENSED, LAWFUL, clean-recorded, finger and palm printed responsible American citizens who own millions of firearms as a defense against an IMMINENT deadly threat. If you don't want to be one, fine.
Now hand me my bayonet, please...oops, nope, can't have that, either. The absurdity would be hilarious but for the earnestness with which it's delivered...
For the record: NOT an NRA member, NOT a Republican nor Conservative nor right-wingy anything. Except a supporter of the Constitution, including the Second Amendment: and that's not a right wing issue.
This lady's arrest was a travesty. Thanks for your consideration of this post.
Total comments by Jean: 31
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Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Maybe the off duty SHTP detective that reported her was at the range and had seen her fine choice of weapons, then decided to follow her.
Total comments by INS: 524
Total comments by sayitaintsojoe: 26
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Total comments by PrivateerMatt: 300
First, you seem to have chosen an ironic moniker (screen name), considering that your basic instinct seems to be to slaughter any expression of Free Speech here.
Do you really think that you have the rights of the "people" "first" in your heart?
Second, you have repeatedly said that certain notions are "facts" when they are actually "opinions" that the voice in your head has put forth?
Do you not recognize this? Are you aware that the voice in ... more your head is not you?
Just the facts please.
Total comments by PBR: 193
If I complain about the NRA and guns I am "infringing upon your first and second amendment rights" but when you attack my opinions you are being what - patriotic? I am sick and tired of turning on the news and hearing that someone walked into a store ... more or a school or an army base and randomly killed innocent people with their "licensed and legal" guns.
You can go on and on about constitutional rights written when it took ten minutes just to load a gun, but tell that to the families of those who have lost a child to gun violence.
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Total comments by INS: 524
Total comments by Blue Sky: 31
The cops knew that the firearms were legal and they no doubt verified her local domicile from her drivers license. What on earth were they thinking.? She has a stronger right to have firearms in her trunk than she does ... more to have golf clubs. The former are specifically guaranteed her in the Constitution.
The, "Oh, My!", reaction of several posters reveals their parochial attitude towards firearms, specifically the attitude of NYS residents to firearms. The enormous majority of other states think of them as sports equipment and personal protection rather than tools of terrorism.
If you don't think that individuals should be permitted to own firearms, change the Constitution. But good luck, you will find yourself about forty-eight states short.
Ms. Genovese spent four days in jail because of these Bozos!? She is probably using the shotgun to keep order in the mob of tort attorneys begging to represent her.
For every story about gun violence against innocents, there are twenty of guns protecting their rights. I particularly like the one I read about the young female office worker walking up to her front door and, upon hearing a noise behind her, turning to see a man whom she knew to be violent running full-tilt at her with the intent of grabbing her before she got into the safety of her home. She took a snub-nose revolver from her purse and pointed it at him. He tried to stop so abruptly that he fell backward and got a road rash on the back of his head.
Total comments by highhatsize: 303
This woman has a solid lawsuit if she wishes to pursue it.
And yes, peoplefirst, I certainly number myself as one of those "constitution {sic} thumpers" you vilify against all reason. It is that very same Constitution (and Bill of Rights) which allows you to bleat your knee-jerk drivel on this website whenever you feel like it.
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Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Give me a real world example of how there are twenty gun owners protecting my rights.
I could care less if someone owns a hunting rifle, but an assault weapon designed to kill people and 500 rounds of ammunition? Really.
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Total comments by yearrounder: 148
You need to slow down and read he said a "FEMALE OFFICE WORKER".
You really crammed the foot in your mouth on that one!
Hope your shoe was clean!
Total comments by INS: 524
A rifle and 500 rounds do not an "armory" make. That's just over-the-top silly.
I have not changed the discussion -- or anyone's mind, it seems -- a whit. For those who can actually read, there was no "personal attack," but an attack against the "drivel" which PF posts here.
If you don't understand the difference, then that's probably why you hear of someone with a semi-automatic rifle and 500 rounds ... more of ammunition, and attempt to portray it as "an armory."
That too is drivel, as is your assertion that her Constitutional protections would be dependent on the color of her skin or her ethnicity. Bush and Chaney might have thought as you do, but I do not, and I doubt that the majority of those here you attempt to paint with that brush, do either.
Please, more reason and less hysteria.
Total comments by Frank Wheeler: 506
Thank you for your intelligent comments. Yes I was cleared by all higher officials. It was the under sheriff, Caracappa who is a media hungry official with no experience who did this, who lied about my mental state because he had nothing to justify any of what he did.
I was told for 12 hours I am just being questioned,I was not under arrest, I was going home. It was not until Caracappa saw my Myspace page, in the middle of the night, with my political views that ... more he told me I was under arrest, and he used a trumped up charge like trespassing 3 on a county road. its cost me a fortune to defend the charge. I paid to take it to trail. .
I am living in the same home 31 years raised three children in private school all their lives, alone. Caracappa thought he was arresting someone who could not fight back, who would not go after him for false arrest and deformation. He is wrong.
Anyone, please do email me any of you if you have questions, I can document my answers and am happy to reply to your questions. I broke no laws, I was so badly abused in that place for days I will now spend all my time and money on stopping this from happening to anyone else, or at least helping those wrongfully arrested.
Nancy
mystc4star@aol.com
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
What gave under sheriff Caracappa, any right to arrest me for a bogus charge that has been dismissed? He had no right, he just wanted media coverage.
Please, think about what you are saying before your so fast to judge someone ... more with different (legal) views then yourself.
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Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
You are nothing less than hysterical, and out of control. Try posting something rational for a change.
Wanna take that as a "personally attack?" Fine! You're the one making these overly emotional comments that have no basis in reason. I think you're one of the ones the Beach Blogger referred to as a "pants-wetter" yesterday.
Total comments by Frank Wheeler: 506
Total comments by dagdavid: 192
It really looks like she did NOTHING illegal, yet she spent four days in jail.
As long as the courts continue to interpret the Second Amendment as they have, she's got a lawsuit possibility.
Although I fail to see how "The right to bear arms IN AN ORGANIZED MILITIA" (which I read to mean the National Guard) gives someone the right to have an assault rifle in their car ... more trunk. But the law's the law, and she did nothing wrong.
BTW, it's states like Virginia and their incredibly lax attitude (want a handgun with those diapers, ma'am?) about handgun sales that supply NY criminals with handguns. The weapons come right up I-95. Ask the local cops who liase with the ATF task force types. And an assault rifle isn't for target shooting, hunting, or "sport", is it? The name inherently means it's for ASSAULT purposes, no? Unless assaulting folks is now a sport...
Total comments by Undertow: 57
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Who gets bail of $50,000.00 for trespassing 3? Think about that for a moment. If I didn't have the means to make bail, I would have been in there for the duration of the trial. This is wrong. I have seen Judge Burke let a man accused of holding up a 7-11 with a pistol, ... more go on his own reconnaissance.
The sheriff turned away the bail bondsman in an effort to keep me in that place so they can continue to "punish me." This is corruption at its best.
This can happen to any one of you.
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
Total comments by pstevens: 84
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Total comments by INS: 524
Don't you think, upon more rational reflection, it would have been a short war with only 500 rounds on hand?
You really need to calm down.
Total comments by Frank Wheeler: 506
Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
No one warned me at any time. I gave the FBI info when asked if I was ever there before. I don't lie. I was there to take pictures weeks prior. I didn't have my camera and was leaving the side of the road. The troop came over to me, while parked, in my convertible, looking for my camera, on the road.
What did he say... "Nice car, when can I drive it." He was flirting with me!!
There is no infatuation with the base. I was making a "support out troops web page" for that ... more base for Christmas. I wanted a pic of the chopper on display.
Dont believe everything you read.
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
I'm an avid shooter and support the Second Ammendment !
Total comments by PrivateerMatt: 300
"A true assault rifle" has been heavily restricted since 1934, and illegal in NYS for ever longer. And civilians have not been permitted to own a new one since 1986
People blithering about "assault rifles" and "assault weapons" have very little idea what they are talking about. Many of them are functionally no different than some of the rifles (and shotguns) which people LEGALLY hunt with on a daily basis during season.
Total comments by Frank Wheeler: 506
Total comments by PrivateerMatt: 300
Why should one require a reason to exercise a right set forth in the Constitution of the United States?
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Total comments by INS: 524
The first statement is in quotations because I was quoting someone else's comment.
The second is my response to that statement, saying that no civilian in this country should require a reason to exercise a right that is theirs, is protected by the US Constitution, and has been repeatedly upheld by the courts. This is not my opinion, it's the law of the land. I just happen to agree.
I have no problem with your opinion that assault ... more rifles are fun to shoot, make you happy, and therefore help you in your pursuit of happiness. I happen to agree with that also.
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Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
As for my foot it never made it to my mouth because I didn't misread plainly written words as you did, I misinterpreted the quotation marks meaning.:)
Total comments by INS: 524
Now that this is clear,
This is opinion: The facts are that no civilian in this country has any reason to own an XM-15 assault rifle
This is fact: I believe that every person in this country has the right to protest guns and not to be shot.
Just because you believe something doesn't make it a fact nor does calling it a fact make ... more it one.
Total comments by INS: 524
Also, the statement that one would not object to the arrest were the suspect Muslim or Black is specious. "I" certainly would.
In any case, while the incident suggests that some bored cops conjured up a terrorist fantasy to add spice to their mundane, quotidian existence, I have no principled objection to their behavior until the decision was made ... more to charge Ms. Genovese. To do so with the evidence of her innocence at hand was profoundly stupid, but up until then she had complied with requests rather than obey commands.
I grant that finding firearms and ammunition in her trunk, in this part of the United States, is suspicious, especially when added to her taking photos of a "restricted" facility, (whatever that means.) I would hope that the police would behave with the same skepticism were the suspect turbaned, bearded and wearing a thawb. However, had he the same proofs of innocence as Ms. Genovese possessed, I hope that the cops would release him at the same time that they should have released her.
Regarding her firearms, the shotgun is the premier protection against home invasion, (plus a dog). Assault rifles, (which are simply rifles that have a hand grip forward of the trigger), are owned by millions of firearms enthusiasts because the destroy stuff dramatically. They are fun to shoot at the range, and they would come in handy were civil chaos to erupt following a natural or governmental disaster. (Remember St. Thomas after their latest hurricane. Not only were civilians looting, the National Guardsmen were too! Residents saved their homes by standing in front of them with firearms. [I think that the National Guard predation was peculiar to St. Thomas. The same would not occur here.])
500 rounds of ammunition isn't that much to firearms enthusiasts. Some shoot more than that in a week. This has created a cottage industry of shooters who reload used brass cartridges to save money.
Some posters herein have demonized Ms. Genovese. I don't know why she is interested in the ANG base, or in firearms, but she was an innocent.
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Total comments by Bayman1: 128
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More importantly, the Second Amendment was added to the Bill of Rights not because of concern for defending against foreign invasion, as the USA decided ... more post Revolution that it would always have a standing army and navy to protect itself. Rather, it is designed to permit citizens to keep its own government in check in the event the government over reached its grasp.
Total comments by CommonSense: 47
And despite an earlier Commenter's assertion of her belief about the Second Amendment only pertaining to a militia, the Supreme Court decided that one last year: the Second Amendment, as with every other amendment to the Constitution, is an INDIVIDUAL right, not a collective one!
See: District of Columbia v. Heller at http://www.oyez.org/cases/2000-2009/2007/2007_07_290 .
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Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
What would happen if you were pulled over, would depend on how busy the officers are that given moment.
This is a total injustice. I would not trust police on any level after this. Carry a camera, carry an audio recording device in your car, that you can turn on if pulled over. Protect yourself. Register your firearms too.
It seems even if you do not break any laws you now are "Guilty until proven innocent" in our great country.
Don't pull ... more your car over for any reason. These police can do as they please, have no regard for our constitution and will search your car then lie about that too.
btw, I didn't know there was a range in there or that it is a public range. I was coming home from a range up west. How do you like that range?
Enjoy!
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Total comments by sayitaintsojoe: 26
Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
Thanks for posting. Could you clear up few allegations(?):
Were you in jail for four days? Your post seems to suggest that you were only detained for six hours.
Were you told prior to the day of your arrest that you were prohibited from entering the ANG base or taking photographs?
Parenthetically, it appears that both the Suffolk Sheriffs and you are unaware of the latterly, salacious meaning of, "tea-bagger", that has pretty much prohibited its ... more use in polite discourse.
Total comments by highhatsize: 303
Sure. I was on the road with my two adult sons (I called to the scene) for about 6 hours questioned by FBI, DHS, FEMA the base and so many others. I was released by them.
About 12 am I was cuffed, we were told I would return home later tonight, I was going in for more questioning. After Caracappa saw my myspace, he told me I was under arrest in the middle of the night.
I was arraigned Friday afternoon with bail left at 50,000.00. My sons were given the ... more wrong time to be there with bail allowing them to keep me for the weekend. I was there 4 nights and 5 full days, until Monday Aug 3 about 5 pm.
No I was never ever told not to return. I made another post above addressing this. The troop wanted to drive me car as I was digging for my camera on the road side in my convertible.
I was told flat out "we are going to make an example of you for all right wingers." Yes I was also called a tea bagger. My twitter page mentioned I had gone to the tea party in Riverhead on April 15.
I am aware of the term but you have no idea how much worse they were. That term is nothing compared to what else I was called. I was not allowed to sleep. I was not given change of clothes or even a tooth brush.
I was denied antibiotics for a leg injury I had happen home that morning. it turned to a staph infection. It just now might be healed by may be in the bone. I was told by 4 drs, one more day in there and I would have lost my leg. Pictures are up on myspace its now public if you want to see them.
Btw look at the catholic school graduations, bishops, Pope and family pics as my children received their sacraments.
This is such an injustice. Suffolk county is nothing but corrupt and they will now have to explain their actions and words. Thank you!
Nancy
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
I agree you are innocent. You did nothing wrong and were let go. However, we are only hearing your side of the story and, from what I hear you saying, I think the police did exactly the right thing. I am sorry, Ms. Genovese, but you sound ... more a bit extreme in your ideology and perhaps that came across to the authorities. Combine that ideology with semi automatic weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition and all of the violence and hatred being espoused by the far right, along with the fact that you were taking photos where you should not have been doing so, and the police have a pretty strong case for holding you until they were certain you did not represent a threat to anyone.
I would agree that they probably held you for too long, but if you want to have the right to carry around weaponry of this type in your car, then you had best accept that there may be consequences.
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Total comments by HarborDad: 9
I am certainly NOT defending myself! This case is over, DISMISSED!
I am "telling my story,"
I already had my "real day in court." This case is over, dismissed, now let these officials defend their words and actions on the other side of the docket. If you went through half of what they did to me along with 53,000.00 in bills to start, you would want it back too. I have not seen anyone post any law I broke.
I am here, as you call it, a "court of ... more public opinion" to let all of you know as my neighbors, we have a serious problem out here with our police, our justice system and other officials, on every level.
Maybe if your life long good, reputation and creditability as a respected parent, law biding citizen of the east end of LI, and an American, were destroyed, in one night by a young, media hungry sheriff, with nothing to charge a person with, you might understand what I am saying.
As for "bringing religion into the conversation," this is still America, yes, we are Catholic and it plays a big part in our lives. I am a proud single mom raising her children to be productive young adults. Religion is a big part of my background and important to me and my family! I raised my children to be RC and they went to private school all their lives.
Maybe filing those Notices of claim will help prevent this from happening to someone else ...my keyboard cant hurt that either.
Thank you for your opinion.
Total comments by mystcstar: 45
What a patriot you are!
Total comments by littleplains: 149
If I so chose to do those things I have that right. I dont want to live your life, let me live mine the way I chose without judging me.
I was at peace driving home from the range, on that nice day with my roof down on my car, until I was stopped by police who ran out of donuts.
Again, this is America, I am self supporting. I have no one to answer to except God. I read the bills in congress, which is more then I can say for our hired reps.
Most of ... more America is waking up to the corruption in the country. It begins right here in our lower levels of government.
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How about you left-wing buddies in ELF, PETA and Code Pink? Would you consider them "non-confrontational and peaceful?"
I did see, however a news clip of someone carrying a gun at a tea party, to which I assume you are referring. What you probably didn't realize (because almost ... more no news channels showed the person from the front, rather just the gun hanging over his shoulder) was that he was at the tea party to support Obama, as a counter-protest.
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Please read if you want to make a sensible comment.
I don't need permission to pull over on the (opposite) side of the road.
Your joking, right
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During the Summer I contacted you via your myspace or facebook , I forget which . If you want we can go shooting there one day. Email me at buddybaer@gmail.com and we'll message each other .
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If ... more the ANG commander wishes to atone for his part in this stupid and cruel farce, he should send some of his airmen out to walk the old base fence line and rip out ALL those misleading warning signs. He can start with the ones facing Route 31.
The ANG base is not a secure facility. The security gate only keeps sightseers off the base. If one is renting one of the old air force outbuildings on the base, one goes right through the security gate to the on-site access road.
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NOTHING said by mystcstar is detrimental to her case. She has stated the facts from her perspective with understandable outrage. If you can find any data in her posts that backs your assumption, post it.
I am sorry that Ms. Genovese had this horrible experience but hopeful that her case will go to trial and the autocratic, capricious behavior of the Suffolk County Sherrif will be publicized. Alas, this is probably a forlorn hope. When the DA sees the facts of the ... more case, he will settle out of court for almost any amount, (including a non-disclosure agreement), rather than reveal in court that the sheriffs department employs such infantile oafs.
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highhatsize is right on ... the police primary function is community service ... not excessive over reaction ... true I didn't hear anything about a strip / body cavity search .. but still this was over the top ... their job is a piece of cake ... their main threat is from other cops as they jockey for position and how about the chief ...he dared to recommend to the town board that some should be retired ... the police budget is an ever expanding hole
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Your problem, PF, is the irrationality of your arguments, based on your emotions as so many of them are.
For instance, you speak repeatedly of "semi-automatic assault rifles and 500 rounds of ammunition." The woman has stated that the number was "160," ... more and since she was on her way home from the range, this seems credible.
And not only do you reference a non-existent firearm ("semi-automatic assault rifle" -- look it up!) but you do so in the plural despite all reports that she had a single rifle.
But it's clear that you don't care about facts, only about emotion and raising alarms,
You, PF, are a hysteric -- the Beach Blogger refers to you as a "pants-wetter," and it fits.
So -- if you can muster it up for a change -- more reason and less emotion.
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The "pants-wetters" was a quote, but it still applies -- you seem unable to control yourself.
Your point of view is one thing, your erroneous statement of facts are another. But as I've already pointed out, you seem to care nothing for the facts.
And I see you have your own little claque ... more forming, other like-minded non-rational commenters. Good, you need all the mutual support you can muster.
And, "gee," yourself, YR, what do you fantasize I might find "a little sensitive?" Or is a non sequitur what passes for meaningful discourse with you?
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To all of those ... more who Frank refers to as my claque, thank god there are some solid liberal thinkers out there to combat these "ditto heads" (Not my word, someone else said it) Wow, this is fun!
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Anyway, you make a believable case for the outcome.
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The STPD: Mobs a Town Council Meeting in uniform & insults the Supervisor. Repeats the performance a year later sans uniforms.
The Westhampton Beach PD: Two officers suspended for stealing another officers gun and planting it in his car to discredit him.
The Suffolk County Sheriffs Dept: Undersheriff arrests a woman on trespassing charges when he knows ... more that she wasn't trespassing after she has been cleared by the DEA, FBI, DHS, ATF, CIA, NSA and AARP. (Sorry, got carried away with the acronyms.)
Do you see a pattern of behavior here that suggests arrogance, ineptitude, and unprofessional conduct?
The fact is that unless their elected superiors keep the police on a short leash with no slack, a police department will degenerate into a gang the serves its own interests rather than the public. We aren't there yet but the above incidents show that we are on the road. What the East End needs is a supervisory authority with no local political interests to investigate the East End police departments and restructure them so that they answer to their Chief of Police and the elected civilian authorities ALONE and not to the PBA. The various incorporated municipalities out here should apply to the NYS Attorney General for just such and investigation.
Lastly, one deluded soul compared the East End police to combat troops. Give me a break. This is like comparing a Corgi to a wolf.
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Well written, well said. This sad part is it is all too true, just as many other are aware of this who have not been mentioned. I am afraid our police are really out of control.
The reason I went for the trial, is very simple, if these media hungry, abusive officers are not exposed, behavior like what you mention above and my "knowingly unlawful arrest" will continue.
Imagine a group of them, on the road with us, as they were laughing ... more and shouting ideas as to what would be a good charge to arrest me on; shouting one idea of a charge for the injury on my leg as an "unreported bullet wound."
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The Total Information Awareness Program was renamed the Terrorism Information Awareness Program and is now ... more under the administration of the Director of National Intelligence. There is little doubt that the FBI is still executing programs similar to COINTELPRO and that the CIA and NSA are active in domestic spying.
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What happened to you sends a chill up my spine. And I say this being a SMSgt in the MN ANG. I am a fulltime technician at the base in St. Paul. I do know that there are concerns by ANG Security Forces about people observing or taking photos of the base for the wrong purposes. When I think of your story, I think that could have been any of us on our way back from the rifle range or sportsmans club. Many people are fascinated by the aircraft or armored vehicles that the military ... more positions outside their perimeter and like to take these photos. In your case it seems the authorities jumped to conclusions.
I am also an NRA member and realize that many people have a bias against guns, legal guns! I own an AR-15 and other weopons. Some people just don't understand what the 2nd Amendment is all about. I'll leave it at that so some of you liberals can chime in.
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1. Is it illegal to take pictures of the base? YES
2. Are signs Posted? YES, and multiple
3. Did the Govt. over react? NO
why? because your weapons weren't visible. After they stopped you for illegally taking photo's, they check your trunk and find what?? or are you saying the 500 rounds were not visible in the 'front of your car'
4. Police Over-react? Probably, but if they had, any ambulance chasing lawyer would do your case free and take ... more 30% of your settlement
5. Where's is the Website in support of the troops? granted, your probably past this idea, but really, you must have a beta site? or were these your first photos
Falsely detained/arrested? Are you an antiterrorism expert dealing with the threats on the East coast? ANG Base is one of the furthest east, remember hilary jumping to save the base from closure a few years back?. and your sitting there taking ILLEGAL pictures. As of today:
703 billion dollar WAR, yes we are at WAR
American Military Deaths in Iraq: 4,365
Total Wounded Soldiers 31,571
Civilians Killed 100,000+ because of WMD's in IRAQ
Wakeup people. We are at war. A person was sitting outside a base taking pictures, CLEARLY MARKED ILLEGAL. The MP,FBI,CIA, NSA or whoever else stopped her were doing their job protecting soldiers in the base and abroad. I'm sure they would have not kept her if she didnt have and an ASSAULT RIFFLE and camera. The Base did not keep her 4 days, it was the local PD.
Use your brain? Your sitting outside a base, in a time when these BASES are getting shot up, doing something ILLEGAL.
And please don't say your making a website to 'support our troops' without a link. It takes 5 minutes to make a beta site on google, godaddy, yahoo, etc. where the F is the link, with a date before the arrest?
Ill concede, the Police keeping you for 4 days could be a case like the DUKE LACROSSE TEAM, which everyone remembers. It took a while, but the DA Mike NIFONG, was removed from office, Sentenced to Jail, albeit 1 day, sued and responsible to pay 180.3 million to the falsely accused teammates, and the bankruptcy judge ruled against Nifong saying bankruptcy did not wipe the debt away.
So really, Your bashing the the Feds, ANG, Base, DHS, for protecting those who sacrifice their lives so we can sit on our *ss and debate the principles of the constitution and bill of rights
Focus your attention on the local PD, if no lawyer, in this economy will take your case for a % of your winning then look in the MIRROR.
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don't listen to many of these left wing LOSERS. The liberal media has brainwashed many of the people who responded here spewing their venom. You know you didn't break any laws or use bad judgment. I'm glad you are standing up for your constitutional rights. I hope you sue everyone involved in this mess. It's nothing more that a media sham. Take it to the Supreme Court if you have to. Send the message that your rights MUST BE PRESERVED AT ALL COSTS!! I hope you win a lot ... more of money!!! Please keep us posted. Do you have a website? I'd like to make a contribution to your legal fund.
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I did not fight for "MY RIGHTS, I fought for (all of) "YOUR Rights!"
I will keep you posted. Will has the story, we spoke today for last minute questions for the paper edition coming out this week.
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"Another Martyr?"
You are kidding right?
Here is an American citizen obeying the law who was caught up in over-zealous police action. Are you suggesting she left the house intending to be a martyr? No way IMO!
If she is a martyr for standing up for her/our rights, you might as well start accusing the Founding Fathers of this fine country for Declaring OUR Independence from England.
Perhaps this foggy day has clouded your judgment?
Have ... more a good Thanksgiving.
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Would you stop already.. You say your a single mon of 2 kids. Do you have nothing better to do? Is this your new hobby, arguing your point of view on the southampton press blog site. Do you watch the news? Military bases being shot up, schools being shot up, restuarants, etc.... YOU DID NOT THINK!!
Are you going to sit outside a school and do the samething and then scream you have every right to sit in front of a school full of children with a camera and a trunk containing ... more guns and ammo because there are no signs posted that say you can't? What if someone was caught outside your childrens school doing it? Would you not be sitting here saying that they should be arrested and never see the light of day again? Those who deny all accountability have something they are ashamed of. I'm sorry but you need to be quiet. Go hire your lawyer, go to court, fight the police department. Hey you might win.....then your lawyer gets half, you get known as the woman who sued the local P.D. and you can teach your children how to screw up, blame someone else and win a lawsuit. You should try falling in a parking lot somewhere. It's easier to get a settlement.
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You don't like guns this is obvious, this is your opinion which you are entitled to although it is not supported by the law. You cite all the mass shootings, but one problem none of the shooters were women! You position is weak and irrational.
Go to ... more DC and try to out lobby the NRA! LOL Good Luck you will need it!
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Actually I have three children and am a very proud mother. I supposed to remain quiet until Nov 17.
Post your rude words, it’s "YOUR right" to do so, the same constitution that gave me the RIGHT to be exactly on the side of the road, across from the base, WITH MY LEGAL FIREARMS, without the threat of arrest.
You may not have thought about how rude your being in this post, does that give a media hungry sheriff the right to arrest you for your words? Not right ... more now it doesn't, but keep trying to re-write our constitution and maybe someday you will be arrested for your words.
Furthermore, let me explain something to you kindly, if I want to pick up my child from school and take a picture of her coming out of the door, while my firearms are triple locked in my vehicle, I will do it, it’s simply my right. My firearms are not an issue in my case.
Perhaps you need to read all the facts prior to making such a silly post. Caracappa will have to explain why he made a false arrest, why I was so badly abused while in is custody. He has NO excuse.
I could care less about "labels" they mean nothing to me. I did nothing wrong, I am ashamed of nothing. Why would "win a lawsuit" if a travesty of wrong doing didn't occur, you contradict yourself.
BTW, right now I am redecorating my house, in and outside, you're right I have nothing better to do. Dont worry about my children, they are good kids and doing quite well.
YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO JUDGE ME, I can tell you have not read all the facts. Have a good day.
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Your post is hysterical and callous.
Recall the sensational mass murder cases and imagine how different the outcome would have been had any of the victims been armed.
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Correct and there was on college attacked, left out of the news: a student went to his vehicle, grabbed his legal firearm and he is he one who prevented more murders, not our police.
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It's NOT about the right to bear arms
It's Not about real or imagined threats of terrorism.
It's about CELEBRITY.
Genovese was totally unknown to the public before her two arrests.
She was a "nobody"
But she's got an audience (and fans) now.
Over a hundred of us logged on to talk about her.
She's relishing every minute.
She will be back. Same place. Same guns. Same charges and arrests.
How ... more do I know?
Because she's got the taste of celebrity now.
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Unfortunately my attorney and I have to turn down all TV, News and radio interviews, for now, anyway.
My book will be out in the Spring!!
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I dont know who you are but I can assume someone who is "no longer a friend of mine?"
Anyway, I replied to this already, go read the answers.
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BTW, Google her name.
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"I did not fight for "MY RIGHTS, I fought for (all of) "YOUR Rights!"
Phoney!
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Ms. Genovese has an AGENDA!
And it AIN'T about protecting "our" rights.
Again. Google her name for an eyeful.
Best to all and drive safely,
Elliot
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I read so many lies, here is another lie...someone printed that "she bribed a soldier." I wonder what I bribed him with.
Call the court, fact check. This is where deformation of character comes in.
I have a great background so Caracappa had to "make up lies" to get his name in the paper. I won’t support our SHPD, I have never seen a worse bunch of unprofessional officers ... more in my life, they do what they are told to do, and I don't mean their superior officers.
The ONLY PROFESSIONAL POLICE out on the east end are the NY State Troopers, and I was told that 32 years ago. I also have cops friends in all departments.
On top of that my friends, my attorney and I turned down all TV interviews.
I am "just a mom," a regular retired person, some of us have one difference, I like to target practice, it’s my sport. Some of you have no right to condemn me for that.
Thanks and hugs
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First, the hoplophobes try to finesse reality to make Ms. Genovese culpable even though she is and was completely innocent.
Then, when this won't fly, they claim that she is a media whore.
Her posts on this site are replies to the specious and preternaturally stupid personal attacks by irrational hysterics. If you don't want her to post further, stop posting rubbish yourselves.
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My sincerest congratulations on your release and vindication. You did NOTHING wrong, and I hope you own them when it's all over.
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Then you chastise this woman for trying to tell her story?
Telling her that tthe pope is against weapons when even even Christ in his own words believed in self defense (Luke 22:36 Jesus speaking to his disciples)
American Standard Version
"And he ... more said unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise a wallet; and he that hath none, let him sell his cloak, and buy a sword."
Ms. Genovese, my advise to you is to contact the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association for help with your lawsuit.
This is why the majority of Upstate New Yorkers would jump at the chance to succeed from the Westchester co. line north and become West Vermont!
I see that the libs here want it one way, all the "rights" for themselves and None for anyone who won't fit their Liberal/Socialist/Communist agenda.
By the way, you can buy 500 rounds of .22 rimfire rifle ammo for about 12.00 in any sporting goods store...It's the size of a common brick for the knownothings out there.
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God bless you and all others wo have supported me and see how I was wrongfully arrested.
Nancy
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Wait until you see what she does next!
I guarantee that you read about her again.
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I did as you urged, Elliot, and Googled the woman's name. One of the items that came up had her being arrested "for trespassing outside the ANG base." Hello? Does anything ever think about anything for a moment before writing something like that???
Your hysterical -- as in irrational rather than "funny" -- comments, Elliot, are those of a "pants wetter," or as HHS observed above, a hoplophobe.
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That's all right, girl. Just go look up "hoplophobe" and then get back to us.
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Good post!
I guess the police TOTALLY overreacted when they found a shotgun and an XM-15 Assault Rifle and ammo in her car. You can forgive them, though, for being kind of hinkey after 9/11.
Your cure for political and social asphyxiation is to get a bunch of guns?
Oh... Mr. Wheeler, to respond (without name calling) You're correct.
I am a Hoplophobe. This silent majority of Glen Beck zealots has given me an irrational ... more fear of gun OWNERS with a right wing, political agenda see 'Patriot' post above)
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Btw, I could careless about Beck, I had one of his videos emailed to me, during the winter.
I added that one video to my myspace blog, Caracappa jumped the gun so to speak.
I have been shooting targets all my life. I have a right to take this on as a sport, my dad started me at age 5. MY sport, has no political concerns, its just a sport, so give it up Elliot!
I BROKE NO LAWS!
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My attorney told me not to. I plan to donate to our troops for sure, absolutely, I just don't know where yet, I would think injured, those whom have served and have trouble finding work. I will work that out. I am looking into a professional graphics designer for that site to set the site up well. I know many returning vets are suffering ... more and need our help.
The NYS troops will receive money also as they are professional police.
I feel bad our Southampton town police are not liked so much, but they brought this on themselves by being selective. Yes, they risk their lives to protect us everyday, but most are very unprofessional.
And again, this is the last time I am saying this, if on the road the FBI, DHS, the BASE released me, they knew I was of no threat. Why did a low level officer take me in for more questioning and arrest me for tres 3 12 hours later. Ah, headlines, lies and more headlines!
I am no threat, I am "just a Mom." Think about those statements and questions your both scourging out, for one minute before you jump the gun and start another rant, because if you cant debate this rationally, your on ignore.
I have broken broke NO laws, period.
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So since all you want to do is make sure everyones rights are not violated and you want to support our troops.Can we assume that when you finish with your multiple lawsuits against anyone you can file against and win (since you are innocent) that you will be taking out your legal expenses and out of pocket monies and donating the remaining money to the troops? After all by making the town, sheriff and anyone else pay for their wrong doing you would have proved your point.
highhatsize--it ... more seems that you have nothing good to say about any law enforcement no matter what the subject. I wont even reply to any of your comments. You seem to be just a little editorial kind of guy trying to make himself look like more than he really is.
Thanksfully we have la
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Why were the Suffolk County Sheriff's involved at all. Do they have jurisdiction over the Army National Guard Base? Are those signs posted by the Sheriff's Department? Seems they were outside their jurisdiction making false arrests.
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When is the last time you read the constitution?
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The rest of the time they spend cowering anonymously behind their modems wringing their hands about "neocons," the NRA and anything else that fails their Liberal test.
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"The NRA is more powerful than you and all your pinko buddies will ever be."
Hence, the justification of our worries.
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Ms. Genovese, you have a strong case perhaps. Save it for the courtroom and stop posting here, I'm begging you - for your own good.
And if you think FOX News, or ANY mainstream media news outlet is unbiased, let alone "fair and balanced", I want what you're smoking. Lots of it.
You posts aren't doing you ANY good. Stop. Repeat - stop.
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However I have to wonder; the SC sheriffs drove to and FROM SH court at over 110 MPH, to get me out of court by 1230. They told my sons to be there at court at 1 PM July 31.
How safe does that make any of you feel on sunrise highway?
Btw we were in a work zone partially, also.
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I jog at a Refuge that borders the base several times a week. All there is on the south side of the base is a 5 foot fence with many gaps. In fact, there is one gap the hunters from the base use to get on Refuge property - with their guns & bows by the by. They also have a small racetrack where they race base vehicles & personal vehicles ... more around & around.
If this was all about base security - then why is the southern border open & unprotected? No security cameras either....... Have a jog or walk & see for yourself.
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I think that it is time to pull the plug on this thread. It has gone on for so long that new posters are entering who are have not followed the discussion. They are repeating the groundless opinions that have already been addressed and are using the forum to libel you.
The circumstances of your arrest and imprisonment are so outrageous that your civil court victory is a foregone conclusion, only the AMOUNT of the award is in question.
Let that assuage your ... more anger over your Unamerican treatment. Further posting here will only encourage ignorant ideologues to bait you further and to vent their spleen.
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I agree with you and others. I shall not return to this page, I am done, my words have been said, there is nothing more for me to add , I refuse to defend myself against such stupidity of others whom have not even read our Bill of rights and constitution!
I have said my peace.
All of you who have supported me, I thank you for that and your well wishes. However, its time to say goodbye.
Have a great holiday season everyone!
Nancy ... more Genovese
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Or "piece," as the case may be.
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Nancy Genovese getting arrested -$1,000.00
Price of Handcuffs- $100.00
Nancy Genovese leaving bitching site- PRICELESS
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Also, last time I checked you cannot arrest someone because their political views differ from your own.
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Maybe Ms. Genovese is a nut job, maybe she's a "teabagger," maybe she owns too many guns, is anti-government, or thinks Glenn Beck is the second coming of Jesus. But all that is irrelevant. You can't arrest someone on "suspicion," only on PROBABLE CAUSE that a CRIME has happened, is underway, or about to happen. In this case, ... more since she was arrested on trespassing charges, that means the sheriffs believed they had probable cause she was trespassing. But we now know that was bogus from the start since she was on the side of a public road.
If it were legitimate, the DA would have gone to trial or settled, not dropped the charges completely.
She's INNOCENT.
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I am not going to get into a argument with you regarding your situation. Your the one who got on this site and decided to air your side of the argument. When you make your case a public case then anyone including me can have an opinion. It is my right. I am not judging you I am stating the facts you used poor judgement. I do not worry about your children. I worry about my own. What I do worry about is nuts like you driving around with guns in their trunks. If it walks like a nut ... more and talks like a nut then I believe we have a nut. Enjoy your 15 minutes of fame. By the way, I am glad your so far away that you can not sit outside my childrens school with guns in your trunk because then you and I would have a problem. Enjoy being a nut. Straight jackets come in sizes of one size fits all so you wont have to be fitted for one........
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