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The Appellate Division of the New York State Supreme Court last week reversed a decision prohibiting day laborers from congregating at a preserved parkland site on Aldrich Lane in Southampton Village while looking for work each morning.
The appellate court’s decision, rendered on November 17, lifted the temporary injunction issued by a Suffolk County Supreme Court last year that forbade the use of Aldrich Park as a hiring site for day laborers, as the village had proposed. As a result of the ruling, the laborers are free to gather at the park and negotiate daily employment, at least until a lawsuit over the matter filed by neighbors of the site is settled. That lawsuit is currently in Suffolk County Court in Riverhead.
Southampton Village Mayor Mark Epley said the village no longer has any specific plans for using the parcel, known as Aldrich Park, as a formal hiring site.
Southampton Town and Southampton Village jointly purchased the 6-acre park in 2001 with Community Preservation Fund money, and, six years later, Mr. Epley had proposed using the vacant property next to the 7-Eleven at the corner of North Sea Road and Aldrich Lane as an open-air hiring site for day laborers, utilizing a U-shaped driveway. The village was planning to make it illegal for day laborers to solicit employment on North Sea Road and surrounding arteries as a way to shepherd the men to the park. No buildings were planned, although the mayor had suggested that portable bathrooms and benches might be added to the site, and in April 2007 village crews planted bushes to screen the site from the street. The mayor maintained that the cost of the work would be covered by donations.
The plaintiffs in the lawsuit, a group of three homeowners on Aldrich Lane, asked the Supreme Court to stop Aldrich Park from being used as a hiring site while their lawsuit was pending. The Supreme Court first granted their request, but a Manhattan advocacy firm called LatinoJustice intervened on behalf of two unnamed day laborers and worked to have that initial decision overturned.
“We’re delighted,” said Ghita Schwarz, an attorney at LatinoJustice, which was formerly known as the Puerto Rican Legal Defense and Education Fund. “The courts made the only decision that it could.”
The crux of the initial lawsuit filed by the Aldrich Lane homeowners—whether or not it was illegal for Southampton Village to use property purchased with Community Preservation Funds as anything but a public park—was not resolved in the Appellate Division, Ms. Schwarz noted. That matter still lies in the hands of justices at the Suffolk County Supreme Court in Riverhead.
Anton Borovina, an attorney at Borovina & Marullo, PLLC in Melville, who is representing three families who live on Aldrich Lane, said that the appellate court lifted the injunction because his clients did not show that they would be “irreparably harmed” if the village went forward with its hiring site plans.
“My client failed to show irreparable injury caused by allowing these people to congregate,” said Mr. Borovina.
Mr. Borovina, however, disagreed with the Appellate Division’s decision, and maintained that the parcel will lose its qualities as a park if it is used as a place to link employers and day laborers. “It is ridiculous to suggest that a park, once converted to commercial use by the snap of a finger, can be reverted back to park use,” he said.
Mr. Borovina said that he will discuss the options for fighting the Appellate Division’s decision with the three families. He declined to state what options lie before them.
Ms. Schwarz said that there is nothing she can do for the case until the homeowners make a move in Suffolk County Supreme Court.
LatinoJustice was founded in 1972 by three Latino attorneys who wanted to fight for equality for South and Central Americans living in the United States. The advocacy group began representing two day laborers who frequently obtain work on North Sea Road in 2007. The day laborers are referred to as “John Doe No. 1” and “John Doe No. 2” in the lawsuit to protect their identities, Ms. Schwarz said.
“They’re protected because there is an enormous inflamed atmosphere in the park,” Ms. Schwarz said. “There were protesters yelling scary threats at the day laborers, activists and nuns, who were also getting called offensive names.
“The park has a history of violence and fear, and we wanted to make sure the laborers who were so brave to come forward weren’t going to be intimidated by vigilante groups,” she continued.
Another portion of the appellate division’s decision involved whether or not LatinoJustice would be allowed to represent a migrant worker’s rights group called Coalition for a Worklink Center, and other individual activists. The Appellate Division is only permitting LatinoJustice to intervene on behalf of the two unnamed day laborers because the coalition and the other activists do not have a vested interest in the lawsuit, Ms. Schwarz explained.



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Total comments by EastEnd68: 173
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Total comments by sunshine: 5
Total comments by darwin: 37
Total comments by Southampton: 15
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Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
Total comments by Southampton: 15
... Are you guys living in a parallel universe? Do you have ANY idea of the ramifications of this "cute little park", being used as a hiring place for ILLEGALS???? Not to mention the rising crime rates, which is happening in other towns who have hiring halls, or areas. What part do you not get? How 'bout a hiring place for LEGAL immigrants...better yet, a place for TAX PAYING RESIDENTS!????
I am extremely disappointed and sickened by this ... more decision. And sorry to be so blunt and uncivil, but all who agree with this are delirious.
Total comments by Jan : 4
Total comments by local: 41
Total comments by MaryMac: 36
Total comments by jlc52: 7
Yes, this is a land use issue and the judge has ruled that because it ... more is a park, people can assemble there and freely negotiate for work. The ruling does not designate that area as a hiring site, it has upheld the land's use as a park where anyone can gather.
Total comments by dagdavid: 192
People can assemble in parks, but they can not urinate, defecate and litter in them. The Village Police should be making arrests for these offenses on a regular basis. These things fall under local jurisdiction.
You say if you have a problem with the current immigration law write congress, the problem is with non-enforcement of ... more existing laws. Last time I checked congress just wrote the law they don't enforce it.
Everyone who is against this call ICE and make complaints, if they get enough they will have to take action. These "laborers" are criminals lets start having them busted!
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Total comments by dagdavid: 192
What do you have to say to defend their public urination and defecation? How about the littering? For the record I mow my own lawn and would never let one of these ... more invaders do it.
Total comments by INS: 524
To accuse these people of urinating and defecating in public is an abhorrent attempt to dehumanize them instead of dealing with the core issues which are, as I have stated, federal issues not local.
I will not ... more argue common decency and the basic tenets of humanity with you which is why I refer to the law and facts: As far back as 1896, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that:
"The Fourteenth Amendment to the Constitution is not confined to the protection of citizens. It says: ’Nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty or property without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law.’
These provisions are universal in their application to all persons within the territorial jurisdiction, without regard to any differences of race, of color, or nationality; and the equal protection of the laws is a pledge of the protection of equal laws."
You may not like that or wish to change the constitution, but this is factually correct.
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Total comments by darwin: 37
Total comments by Southampton: 15
Total comments by intheknow911: 46
Total comments by Ms. Jane Q. Public: 79
What angers me most is the very same people that want to blame everything on immigrants are the same people who stand up for corporate America and big business who are robbing them blind every day. You cannot talk to these people about immigration, ... more they are simply too bull-headed. I do, however, find comfort that there are some people out there like yourself who choose to embrace human decency instead of hatred and fear. Thanks.
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Total comments by yearrounder: 148
I don't know what it means to be American, now you are really grasping at straws, Free Speech for starters. Which I am exercising here. The sooner "these people" are deported the better for America and real Americans who have pride in their country.
As for them being license plate thieves ... more go check with the Village and Town Police departments, ask how many "legal" American Citizens they pull over with switched plates. It is a problem with the illegal alien community.
You say they contribute more than they cost, LOL you are wrong. Give some solid numbers to prove this. Better yet go to one of Suffolk County's health clinic and see who is in there sucking on our tax dollars.
Total comments by INS: 524
Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
The insurance companies and corporations aren't in my way on the roads or littering in our parks, as well as not the subject of this article which is why I'm not addressing those issues at this time or in this forum.
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Total comments by poools81: 9
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"immigrants are crucial to the New York economy. First-generation immigrants - documented and undocumented combined - are responsible for 22 percent of the gross domestic product in New York State, slightly higher than their 21 percent share of the state population.
Let’s get real about addressing the issues, rather ... more than fanning the flames of intolerance. New York is already in a downturn, and a recession is no time to throw a damp rag on nearly a quarter of the economy.
A real solution would have three parts.
One: Raise the wages and improve working conditions in low-wage jobs, expanding opportunities for both immigrants and Americans who are citizens by birth.
Two: Create an earned path to citizenship, so that undocumented immigrants who are here today can move out of the unregulated economy and into regular jobs.
Three: Revise our immigration so there’s more opportunity to come to this country legally and less pressure for people to find unauthorized ways in."
I agree that it takes courage to try and resolve an in issue in a humane, tolerant, and successful manner and that a hallmark of hate and bigotry is cowardice.
Total comments by yearrounder: 148
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Total comments by AndersEn: 34
A NYC Firm (Not Long Island or Southampton) acted on the behalf of "Two unnamed day laborers" to have the ruling overturned. Whether these laborers are legal or not is not disclosed.
Is it just me or is anyone else wondering about the identities of these day laborers? Moreover, can some legal firm from out of town acting on behalf of two anonymous people have more legal clout than local homeowners who pay high property ... more taxes?
Total comments by elliot: 36
For reasons unknown to me in East Hampton the day laborers assemble at the RR station. Does East Hampton have a way of doing something that Southampton does not? Our station has a covered roof and the Village can place porta potties there while the govt works on the greater immigration issue and sealing our porous borders. Until they resolve ... more the matter here in the village, I will not permit my daughter(for safety reasons) nor do I buy anythng at 7-11.
Total comments by North Sea Citizen: 86
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That being said, I want to point out two things:
1.) We are obviously not going to solve this complex issue on an internet forum.
I would hope that the comments at least reflect some kind of sober, constructive exchange about the issues rather than simply venting personal emotions- valid though they may be.
2.) The COMPELLING ISSUE in this ... more article is the Supreme Court decision that was overturned on the local homeowners by a powerful, politically connected advocacy firm in NYC- working on behalf of "unnamed parties" who may or may not be legal citizens of the United States.
This is a scary concept.
The legal, taxpaying homeowners (our neighbors!) lost their temporary court decision to anonymous parties. How does this bode for their case?
Perhaps it's time that we local taxpayers and homeowners employed the services of a powerful, out of county advocacy firm. Apparently, our local attorneys do not have the clout.
Total comments by elliot: 36
The influx of illegal Hispanics is wholly the fault of the federal government. It could be ended completely if enough money and manpower were applied. The face is that the Republicans won't because their constituency, "loves those hardworking, cheap Mexicans", to quote one Republican Congressman, and the Democrats are afraid of alienating Hispanic voters. ... more (Grossly speaking, other factors also apply.)
I empathize with these people. Yes, they send $$B home every year to their families to better their lives. That seems admirable to me. A few of them commit crimes and violate our vehicle laws, but most of them work hard and keep their heads down.
Their culture and language is foreign. That was true of many of our ancestors and they were pilloried for it. But if the Feds ever get their act together and end the deluge, those remaining and their descendents will be absorbed seamlessly into American society, (which will be somewhat different because of their cultural contribution).
Its hard for me to get angry at a group that has stormed our borders to WORK. The fact is that we can't survive as the economic life boat of Central America but these folks are doing exactly what our folks did generations ago.
Total comments by highhatsize: 303
Total comments by dagdavid: 192
No one in my family funneled money out of this country. My family had the advantage for the most part of already speaking English but those who didn't learned in short order. I also believe you missed the entire point of why my family and most others came here, the American Dream and to embrace this country as their own. Many of these immigrants are just here to earn and take it home to ... more their countries. They care not for our country just for our money.
Where is yearounder to berate you for using the phrase "these folks" is it that different from "these people"?
Total comments by INS: 524
Bigotry:intolerance toward those who hold different opinions from oneself
This could describe most on here. As for hatred although may sound good to you when making your points it is in error. I don't hate illegals, but I don't want them here either. That goes for all of them be they from wherever they may, yes even Ireland.
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Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
By the way that is Oxford's American Dictionary's definition, take it up with them.
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http://balkin.blogspot.com/2009/11/privileges-or-immunities-clause.html#4364237924936323437
Total comments by Publius: 284
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When I said that Hispanics are doing the same thing that our ancestors did, I referred to immigrating for economic reasons. Some immigrants arrived because of persecution, but the vast majority came here to take advantage of the relatively highly-paid work available.
Frankly, I don't know if my ancestors were legal or illegal. It's been that long.
Since I esteem familial ties over national ones, the fact that Hispanics wire a lot of their earnings home is laudable ... more in my eyes.
I think that it is a national policy mistake to allow immigration in the current numbers. Non-english speaking immigrants create cultural ghettos where they associate with each other. This can delay the incorporation into American life of the group for generations, as happened with the Italian immigrants and as has, and is, happening with the Asian immigrants. But the statutory law would prevent this were it enforced.
I do agree with you that immigrants should not be permitted access unless they intend to become citizens rather than just using America as a cash machine. However, this is near impossible for an illegal Hispanic man with his family still living south of the border.
It's wishful thinking, but the Feds should create a national identity card, (based on social security identification, fingerprinting and DNA), that would allow us to discover just who is here illegally. From that point on, illegals should be treated on a case by case basis. Those who have labored honestly should be put on the citizen track with the intent that they be allowed to bring their immediate family in at a later date. Those that have become criminals should be deported.
However, none of this will happen because the political will to do it is absent in Congress.
Total comments by highhatsize: 303
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Total comments by Jan : 4
The issue is this...."LATINO JUSTICE". (that's the name of the NYC advocacy group)
If any of you had even bothered to read the article before you had gotten onto your self-important soap boxes to espouse either your a.) venom or b.) brilliant socio-political manifestos, you would have noticed that Latino Justice has just scored a cork-popping legal victory over the big, bad homeowners ... more of the Hamptons.
With this victory, minor though it may be, we shall now see NYC "advocates" wielding very large and influential sticks within our government that will affect life on the east end in ways that we can't begin to imagine.
Total comments by elliot: 36
Thank you.
Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
Hire American and keep the money here !
Total comments by AndersEn: 34
I googled "Latino Justice, Hamptons", and searched it in this publication and I still don't know what you are talking about. Why not just state it plainly?
Total comments by highhatsize: 303
According to their website they are making quite a name for themselves in legal circles.
Again, what concerns me so deeply is how an out-of -county legal firm can represent two "anonymous" defendants to successfully overturn a Suffolk Supreme court ruling which initiallydefended the rights of Southampton property owners. (temporary though it may be)
Total comments by elliot: 36
This is a small bump on the way to securing the park as such, a park. It is not meant for conducting business or commerce without the proper permits. Which would be for special events only, not a daily detriment to the tax paying home owners and their respective property ... more values.
Total comments by INS: 524
This is a small bump on the way to securing the park as such, a park. It is not meant for conducting business or commerce without the proper permits. Which would be for special events only, not a daily detriment to the tax paying home owners and their respective property ... more values.
Total comments by INS: 524
Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
AndersEn:
Hire American and keep the money here !
Lets start by buying American (GOOD QUALITY OF COURSE NOT JUNK OR DISPOSABLE) made products, stop buying products that come from China, India etc.
Lets create jobs HERE!!!!!!!
Total comments by Bel: 27
1-All workers MUST show legal documentation including a valid SS# checkable by using CARDCHECK!
2- All employers MUST show proof of workman's comp insurance.
3-All employers must pay by check with the proper witholdings taken out and documented.
ICE should set up a checkpoint at the ... more entrance to check for laborer's documentation.
None of this mentions race or nationality, ust legal status of both the employer and employee.
Homeowners are not exempted from following these rules.
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Total comments by Draggerman: 33
Your ... more life may be miserable, but instead of looking for a scapegoat, look in the mirror. You are disgusting.
Total comments by fcmcmann: 137
Total comments by INS: 524
Have any of you tried to find a rental or buy a house to find you lost out on it because 20 non US Citizens were renting it.
Have any of you responded with your local Fire Department or Ambulance to one of these houses to a reported emergency. Adults are running away and hiding in the bushes, they leave 5 year old children alone in the house.
IF YOUR ... more LEGAL WHY RUN AND HIDE
WHAT DECENT HUMAN LEAVES THEIR CHILDREN BEHIND?
Total comments by MACK: 8
its a great feeling when you pay taxes, work your ass off, and pay high medical coverage prices only to go to the hospital and wait for hours to be helped. Then some one who will not even speak English walks in does not answer even a quarter of the questions you had to and gets seen right away.
YES I did say "will not speak English". I have found many of these people do speak English when they want to get payed or their life is in danger, ... more but other than that they refuse to.
How about that car accident last summer when the passenger of the vehicle was killed and the driver ran away?
How can any of you call these people decent. I know this does not represent the entire foreign community but it is a good example of many.
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Total comments by Draggerman: 33
Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
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Have a strong aversion to something
Hate is an intense opinion and doesn't demonize someone as you would intend it too, it shows commitment to ones position and is not automatically a bad thing if it is tempered with reasoning. You say hate as if it automatically indicates the lack of legitimate concerns.
Total comments by INS: 524
Mr. Shaw, please consider making people provide real names, just as they must when writing an editorial, and I am sure you will see a much more civilized, productive debate as many would not dare put a face to such vile comments. I will happily ... more post under my real name when the policy applies to all.
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
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I do not expect someone so blinded by hate, fear, and bigotry to ... more capable of understanding the consequence of their words, but I do hope the editor is able to see how dangerous your bias truly is.
By the way, the first amendment protects you against persecution from the government and has nothing to do with the ignorant expressions of disdain you post on a newspaper forum. Would you be willing to use your real name and stand behind your baseless accusations? To put a real name and face to your hatred? I doubt it.
Total comments by peoplefirst: 289
Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
You show your weakness by attacking someones choice of an avatar, don't you realize it is done to get under your ... more skin and it works, you are such an easy mark.
I may switch mine to Stalin just because I know it bothers YOU!!!!! LOL
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Total comments by bigfresh: 32
Total comments by Draggerman: 33
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Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
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Total comments by K Aventi: 6
And just a small point... almost 70% of workers hired from hiring sites nationally are hired by private citzens not BUSINESSES.
Another small but intersting point...over 80% of the illegal immigrants we have in this country came here legally but over stayed their visa's. That is NOT a felony it is a code violation. And to quote DAGDAVID if you want that changed do the work to change the law at the federal level.
It seems immoral to me to have our government issue visitor visa's to people makeing $200 a month in their country and really expect them to just get on a plane and go back. They pay 10,000 American Dollars to buy into these obviously currupt systems. As one blogger mentioned I do not have a problem with workers storming our borders, I do agree they should be interested in citizenship and becoming American. This can be done with the proper political will. It will have to be done in a hate free pragmatic environment. Such an environment simply does not exist at this time and the tone of many of the comments here today show that crystally clear.
Total comments by Bob Schepps: 17
Total comments by UNITED states CITIZEN: 109
I don't mind the anonymous postings on this site, I think it makes the argument so much more interesting and fun! It allows people ... more to be honest while setting aside political correctness.
Total comments by hamptons2009: 7
If so many "American citizens" are interested in the jobs being "taken" from them, why aren't they standing on the corner looking for them alongside the day laborers? Sorry, but that's where the "day" jobs are found. They must not want such work badly enough to actually stand on the corner and look for it.
The status quo exists for reasons that have little to do with green cards, or hatred, or bigoted thinking, for that matter.
All ... more the energy devoted to getting emotional about would be better directed elsewhere.
Total comments by M. O'Connor: 16
And thus there is emotion on this topic because the American citizens are being lied to on many levels as well as being stollen from and at the same time being swindled to make them feel they are heartless not taking care of the poor...(which is unfair when they are taking care ... more of themselves so that they will not become the poor or their children...American Citizens follow the United States Constitution and follow the laws of the United States and our American men have fought long and hard for these rights...IF YOU REALLY WANT TO HELP THE ILLEGALS YOU WOULD TELL THEM TO GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRIES AND FIGHT FOR THEIR CULTURE(SINCE THEY STRESS IT SO MUCH HERE)AND TO FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY WANT HERE FOR THEIR COUNTRY AND FAMILIES LIKE WE HAVE DONE HERE IN THE United States of AMERICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Total comments by UNITED states CITIZEN: 109
Total comments by fix-it-now: 168
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-11-29-citizen-day-laborers_N.htm
Total comments by hamptons2009: 7
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