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Jul 3, 2018 4:18 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin And Gershon Come Out Punching In First Days Of Congressional Campaign

Perry Gershon at a Democratic rally in East Hampton over the weekend. 
KYRIL BROMLEY
Jul 3, 2018 4:53 PM

The race for the 1st Congressional District seat on the ballot this November got off to an immediately prickly start within hours of Perry Gershon declaring victory in the Democratic primary election last Tuesday night.

By mid-morning on Wednesday, June 27, U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin’s campaign had issued a biting response to Mr. Gershon’s election, “congratulating” the wealthy businessman for “buying his way into the general election” and repeatedly calling him “Park Avenue Perry,” in jabs at the more than $1 million of his own money he pumped into his primary campaign coffers, and his recent switch in voting registration from New York City to East Hampton.

“It’s amazing that the Democratic Party was so desperate that they nominated a liberal Manhattan Democrat who has never even voted here in a November election for Congress,” the statement from Mr. Zeldin’s campaign said. “The few Democrats who did decide to vote chose someone who sees this district as one that can be purchased. Park Avenue Perry will learn the rest of that lesson the hard way in November.”

Mr. Gershon this week shot back, spotlighting Mr. Zeldin’s close ties to the Trump administration and some of its more controversial figures and his support by the National Rifle Association, as he had done throughout the Democratic primary campaign.

“Far be it for Lee Zeldin to talk about where money comes from—he gets the most money from the NRA of anyone in the New York delegation,” Mr. Gershon said.

The Democratic nominee declined to comment on his personal contributions to his own campaign, other than to note that even without the approximately $1.3 million he has given his campaign, he still raised more than $750,000 in third-party contributions—more than his four challengers in the Democratic primary combined. Kate Browning, who came in a close second at the polls, raised about $490,000.

Mr. Gershon also nodded to the relatively robust turnout for the Democratic primary vote on June 26 as a sign that Democratic voters are energized and will come to the polls in large numbers in November to counter the Republican wave in 2016 that carried President Donald Trump into office and Mr. Zeldin to an easy win in his first reelection campaign with 59 percent of the vote.

More than 21,000 Democrats cast ballots in last week’s primary, compared to just over 12,000 in the bitter 2016 party primary between Anna Throne-Holst and David Calone, which also left rifts within the party that cost Ms. Throne-Holst in the general election.

“I think Democratic turnout made a big statement,” Mr. Gershon said of last week’s vote. “You could see the energy. It was palpable. The party has clearly shown that we’re all getting together for a change in NY1.”

Mr. Gershon said his campaign will focus on what he sees as Republican mishandling of health care and tax reform that has left New Yorkers reeling financially, especially those in costly, high-property tax areas like Suffolk County. The environment and “common sense” gun safety legislation also will be on his agenda.

“Republicans need to be held accountable for the loss of income tax and property tax deductions that are crippling residents of NY1,” he said. “We also need to address health care and protect the [Affordable Care Act] and protections for pre-existing conditions that Republicans and Lee Zeldin are trying to get rid of.”

For his part, Mr. Zeldin’s campaign touted the congressman’s Long Island roots, military service—he is still a major in the Army Reserves—legislative successes in Congress and aid delivered to constituents.

“When local fishermen, boaters and small-business owners recently reached out to Lee Zeldin concerned about navigation conditions at Moriches Inlet, we all witnessed how effective our congressman is with his immediate and successful advocacy to secure an emergency dredge,” his campaign said. “Congressman Zeldin consistently delivers for the Long Islanders he represents.”

The Republican statement on the race made clear that Mr. Gershon’s New York City connections and immigration policy will be key issues, at least at the outset. The campaign’s statement hearkened back to the debate about so-called sanctuary cities, to border security policies and referenced the MS-13 gang, which has Latin American roots, three times.

The tone from both sides sets the stage for what is sure to be one of the most closely watched races in the country as the two major parties battle for majority control of the House of Representatives in 2019. The 1st Congressional District is seen as one of just a dozen districts nationwide that can swing easily in any given year between Republican and Democratic candidates. Over the last 30 years, the two parties have exchanged control of the seat five times, with Democrats holding it for 10 terms and Republicans for eight.

As attention focuses on the race, so will financial support from outside donors marshaled by the political parties and political action committees. The 2016 campaign for the district drew nearly $8 million in campaign contributions for Mr. Zeldin and challenger Ms. Throne-Holst, the vast majority of which came from outside the district.

Mr. Gershon will start off the campaign at a substantial financial disadvantage to the incumbent, as challengers usually do.

After having spent some $1.6 million on the primary, he has about $450,000 on hand, according to the most recent campaign finance reports. But Mr. Gershon said this week he also raised $60,000 in the four days after he won the nomination.

As of June 6, the most recent reporting date, Mr. Zeldin had more than $1.5 million in the bank for the start of the general election, a similar advantage to the one he held over Ms. Throne-Holst in 2016.

In 2016, Ms. Throne-Holst ultimately outpaced Mr. Zeldin in fundraising, and in campaign spending, but still lost by nearly 20 percentage points on election night.

Mr. Gershon said he is confident that his campaign will be able to keep pace with the advantages that incumbents always have in congressional races: “We’ve shown our prowess at that. I think we’ll be able to give Mr. Zeldin a good run.”

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I challenge any democrat to name a single idea of Park Avenue Perry's that is attractive to them.
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 8:33 AM
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Fix America's crumbling infrastructure.
By Pacman (180), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 9:44 AM
Get ready and hold on to something solid the Red Wave is coming
By widow gavits (208), sag harbor on Jul 4, 18 8:35 AM
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The Red Wave? Really, Ms. Gavits? I don't think so. I'm not counting on a Blue Wave for this district, though I think it's real. Here in CD1, we'll just work our butts off and that's how Perry Gershon will win.

So Slime, you want some Perry ideas I like? How about gun safety? How about keeping families together? How about real health care? How about saving our state and local tax deduction? How about ending the Putin-Trump bromance?

Those are just a few, and if "Park Avenue ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1861), Quiogue on Jul 4, 18 11:25 AM
"Park Avenue Perry?" That's the most creative thing the Zeldini side has ever come up with! I love it!

I watched Gershon's television commercials for the past 2-3 months and two things became immediately apparent: the man's campaign is extremely well-funded, and his professed positions are all knee-jerk Progressive hot buttons.

He's a clown -- a well-funded clown, and a well-heeled carperbagger! "Park Avenue "Perry?" Yeah, that works!



By Frank Wheeler (1796), Northampton on Jul 4, 18 10:25 AM
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I have a few, Slime.
How about common sense gun control.
How about universal health care and Medicare for all.
How about protection from insurers trying to abolish health care policies for pre existing conditions.
How about protecting the environment and our natural resources.
How about speaking truth to power when necessary.
How about representing ALL the people of the district instead of a select few party loyalists.
I could go on if you'd like...




By fritzdaddy (27), southampton on Jul 4, 18 10:27 AM
It's too bad that young people and Hispanics have low voter turnout : (

By Aeshtron (130), Southampton on Jul 4, 18 10:40 AM
Calling Mr Gershon Park Ave. Perry makes Zeldin a chip off the old block head, who of course is our disgusting President Bone Spur.
By country joe (32), sag harbor on Jul 4, 18 11:54 AM
I don't like guns but I know enough that criminals don't care about gun control laws. Drugs are illegal too but why are they everywhere? It's just an election tactic that uses emotion over logic. Bashing Trump doesn't work either. Separating ILLEGAL immigrant families is something the ILLEGAL immigrants brought upon themselves by entering the country ILLEGALLY. Enter through the port of entry legally and apply for citizenship and you are doing it the right way.
By lirider (236), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 18 11:57 AM
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It's all about affordable health care for all. I don't care about any of the other BS. Tell my why a new Southampton Hospital will not be affordable to all. The hospital is owned by a state agency and is profitable, yet increases the cost to taxpayers every way and every year at rates far above inflation, not only directly for common ordinary citizens but also indirectly for the exorbitant taxes we pay for the healthcare of teachers, first responders, the EIGHT different kinds of police that ...more
By dfree (547), hampton bays on Jul 4, 18 1:14 PM
If you can't afford insurance or don't have enough money for healthcare then do something about it. This coming from a person that had to pay for his own knee surgery. I decided that I can't get wiped out again so I made it happen. It's not up to other people to take care of you otherwise people wouldn't want to become doctors and we would have no innovation in medicine.
By lirider (236), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 18 9:58 PM
It's not up to other people to take care of you "--totally wrong.

If you need treatment--you receive it. Its the law.

And I get stuck with the bill

And I'm sick of it!

By aging hipster (160), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 7:26 AM
I'm pretty sure my hospital bill came to me not you. As far as people with no SS# or ID I'm not sure.
By lirider (236), Hampton Bays on Jul 5, 18 9:18 AM
If you can pay for it you will. If you can’t the taxpayers will through Medicaid
By razza5350 (1901), East Hampton on Jul 5, 18 10:36 AM
Lapdog Lee is in full panic. The dude was co-sponsor of a gun law that would have allowed Gang members to lawfully bring concealed weapons into our communities. Why would he endanger Long Islanders and law enforcement? Answer: A few thousand bucks from
NRA...

Has Lapdog Lee spoken against the loosening of pesticide regs that will damage sport and commercial fishing in Long Island Sound? Nope.

What has Lapdog Lee done to help his fellow vets? Nothing. Lapdog is afraid ...more
By harbor (365), East Hampton on Jul 5, 18 7:45 AM
Nobody is in full panic but you.
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 8:07 AM
Hold on there harbor, I'm assuming you are referring to the Concealed Carry Reciprocity law. That just ain't so. If they have a concealed carry permit, then they (whoever) passed the state background check which would prohibit concealed carry if certain criteria were met. They (whoever) have been vetted. Where do you get that gang members as a whole can lawfully bring concealed weapons into our communities?

To your pesticide regulation comment, citing H.R. 953 as one example, the loosening ...more
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 8:26 AM
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3 States have no background check for concealed carry:

Picture ID
Application and fee
Done
By aging hipster (160), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 8:55 AM
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So riddle me this, Po: if a state has no restrictions on CCW beyond a legal purchase (see: Arizona), should that state's lack of restrictions enable that person to carry in all 50 states?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 5, 18 11:28 AM
Well, other than any of that having NOTHING to do with what harbor posted, you (and aging hipster) are incorrect. According to the AZ State Trooper website, a finger print card is required at the time of application for a CCW. You would appear to be confusing the ability to carry concealed without a CCW within the confines of the state just as in the other states alluded to (AK for example), however, outside the state, a permit option is available which requires the finger print card and subsequent ...more
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 12:33 PM
...'nuff said.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 12:36 PM
So the answer to that question is: "no, that state's restrictions should be raised to a minimum standard that is deserving of reciprocity."

That we disagree on whether that minimum standard of a NICS check is sufficient does not surprise anyone.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 5, 18 1:42 PM
Sigh... 'nuff said except when misinformation is given. No. The answer if you can get peel yourself away from the teleprompter is...

Finger print cards are run against the same databases as that used by NICS...by the State Police.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 2:11 PM
I get what you are saying, it's the battle cry of Leftists on the issue. States like NY you have to give your first born to get a CCW, but when you "like" a comment like that of aging hipster, it's simply factually incorrect and your argument goes to crap. Not to mention the nonsense spouted by harbor.

Jul 5, 18 2:17 PM appended by Po Boy
You're simply asking the question that fits the answer you like.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 2:17 PM
I knew there were a handful, but it turns out there are 12 states where "constitutional carry" enables permit-free concealed carry.

It's great they recognize that's a standard not deserving of reciprocity when it comes to their own states, and it should be their right to decide whether or not to recognize CCW permits from other states.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 5, 18 2:49 PM
But permit-free concealed carry DOES NOT apply to concealed carry in other states. To carry in another state LEGALLY, you would be required to get a concealed carry permit, pass the print card background consistent with a NICS query, and be issued a permit.

sigh....
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 9:09 PM
It's great they recognize that's a standard not deserving of reciprocity when it comes to their own states, and it should be their right to decide whether or not to recognize CCW permits from other states.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 5, 18 11:47 PM
It's apples and oranges comparing reciprocity to states own rights within the boundaries of their state.

Track changes: We started at "gang members lawfully bring concealed weapons into our communities" which simply was being pointed out as factually incorrect, and ended at individual states rights. Absent was your opinion on that.

That said, you feel better now?


Jul 6, 18 6:24 AM appended by Po Boy
"it should be their right to decide whether or not to recognize CCW permits from other states." So, if a state wished to eliminate regulations on automatic weapons, that would be ok? Afterall...states should be allowed to decide whether or not to recognize automatic weapons.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 6, 18 6:24 AM
Are you saying gang members can't pass an NICS background check?

We clearly disagree on what should enable a person to CCW.

A CCW that only requires an NICS check for CCW reciprocity would enable gang members with clean records to CCW in our communities.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 6, 18 7:39 AM
No. I'm saying the statement, "gun law that would have allowed Gang members to lawfully bring concealed weapons into our communities" is fear mongering scare tactics void of the reality that criminals such as gang members generally don't follow the law.

Could a gang member with a clean record pass a NICS query? Of course. But the possibility and reality of being sought legally is FAR overridden by the likelihood a firearm is carried ILLEGALLY. As we've found and discussed over and over ...more
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 8, 18 2:13 PM
BTW, it you want to assume gag member=bad, then it could be argued that any firearm purchased by a gang member would be used in a commission of a crime, the very act of purchasing a firearm and carrying one is in fact, a crime since it is related to gang activity.

So, either the gang member is simply a law abiding gang member (citizen) with every right afforded to him/her to own and carry a firearm under 2A OR....They're not lawfully entitled to have and carry a firearm as has been alluded ...more
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 8, 18 2:24 PM
Maybe the absence of a conviction is a good reason to allow a gun purchase but a bad reason to grant someone a CCW permit?

Maybe CCW permits should have a higher standard than "not convicted of a crime"?

I think Arizona and New York should each be entitled to make up their own minds.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 10:38 AM
In this case state law infringes on the second amendment right to bear arms. It's that simple.

"Maybe the absence of a conviction is a good reason to allow a gun purchase but a bad reason to grant someone a CCW permit?" LMAO....nope!



By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 10:45 AM
All state laws setting higher standards for CCW than for gun ownership in the home are unconstitutional? Hilarious.

What case would you cite for that?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 11:07 AM
But there isn't a higher standard in those states; it's just a different process. Criminal and mental history is all considered, just as in purchasing a firearm.

By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 11:46 AM
False: many states have higher standards than a mere NICS search, notably a signature from the local judge or Police Chief. Many of those higher standards have been upheld by Heller, as Scalia's majority opinion in Heller helpfully pointed out.
Jul 9, 18 12:02 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Woops, that first "Heller" should be "SCOTUS"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 12:02 PM
And that is....the "different process" jefe.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 12:36 PM
Sure, different process, additional requirements, whatever you want to call them.

The point is, one is harder to obtain than the other, hence: higher standards.

Now, what court case were you citing again?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 12:48 PM
The standards to purchase a firearm and get a concealed carry are nearly identical in NY state (not including NYC). NYS Form PPB3 asks all the same information as ATF 4473 when purchasing a firearm. Now, whether subsequent judgment (not standard as standards are NOT subjective) of the approving official see fit to not issue a permit, that is outside of any standards that have been set, but part of the process, none the less.

I didn't cite a case - you fabricated that, but like it or not, ...more
Jul 10, 18 8:21 AM appended by Po Boy
Amending to clarify that NYC is the same standard for both...but the subjective nature of the decision to issue a permit is more rigid. Again, not a standard...but a subjective parameter.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 8:21 AM
The fact remains that states where "good cause" is a requirement (prerequisite) have higher (more stringent) standards (qualifications) than states which don't.

I don't have an opinion on whether a nationwide reciprocity law would be constitutional, but we know for a fact thanks to Scalia's majority opinion in Heller that the Court has previously ruled in favor of state restrictions on CCW, contrary to your assertion that "state law infringes on the second amendment right to bear arms."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 8:48 AM
Good cause is not a standard, it is a subjective bar. Saying you don't need a firearm to defend yourself is like saying you don't need a seat belt to protect yourself in case of an accident. If you have neither and you need it, it's already too late. And guess what, the issuing officer who denied the permit, was wrong.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 8:55 AM
Jurisdictions with a "subjective bar" for applicants have more stringent qualifications than those without by definition because there is a bar.

The question of "good cause" doesn't refer to the individual's need, but to their qualifications.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 9:00 AM
Good cause speaks exactly to need, it's why Form PPB3 has different "needs" listed, and often why the applicant must identify demonstrated (subjective) threats during the process.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 9:15 AM
After some reading, you're absolutely right: it's not about qualifications but need.

Regardless, saying states with "may issue" laws are not more stringent than states with "shall issue" laws or completely unrestricted CCW is nonsense.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 9:21 AM
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I never said states with "may issue" laws are not more stringent than states with "shall issue" laws.

By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 9:44 AM
Isn't the inclusion of "good cause" discretion a distinguishing factor between "may issue" states and "shall issue" states?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 9:47 AM
Let's try this, where did I say "states with "may issue" laws are not more stringent than states with "shall issue" laws?"

Because, I didn't.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 12:41 PM
You said "there isn't a higher standard in those states" with more requirements than others.

So is there or isn't there a higher standard? Aren't the laws more stringent?

I gather you're distinguishing "higher standard" from "more stringent" but the end-result is that one state makes it harder to procure a CCW permit than the other, so...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 1:38 PM
That was in comparison to purchasing a firearm - which was the topic at the time - you even brought up NICS.

And your boring me with the psychobabble, so...

By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 11, 18 10:10 AM
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Right, I was saying that some states have higher standards for CCW than other states which only require an NICS search.

You said that was poppycock and "it's just a different process."

Is it more stringent, or is it just a different process?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 18 10:41 AM
So, you want to use something I didn't say, to get me to say something you want me to say, even though, I've already said it, just not the way you like it said?

By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 11, 18 12:37 PM
You're way ahead of me. I'm still trying to figure out what "In this case state law infringes on the second amendment right to bear arms" means.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 18 1:31 PM
Sigh... no doubt.

Probably too busy typing and not enough time reading.


By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 11, 18 3:27 PM
I didn't think you'd explain but in case you're still wondering, that's why I asked you to cite a case: questions of whether a state law is in violation of the second amendment are resolved exclusively by the Supreme Court.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 18 3:30 PM
So you want me to explain something I've already explained, in an effort to explain it like you want me to explain it because you ignored the first explanation?
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 11, 18 3:45 PM
Actually, I don't think you explained in the first place: what infringement of the second amendment were you referring to above?

I'm just waiting until you stop replying, like when you insisted that Mr. Bamberger never apologized for what he did.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 18 3:53 PM
So, you want me to explain in the second place what was explained and ignored in the first place?
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 7:34 AM
Neither explained, nor ignored. What infringement of the second amendment were you referring to above?

Your comments are well-understood as distractions from the fact your points are half-baked and not very well thought-out.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 7:52 AM
If you can't/won't/don't want to/choose not to/intentionally don't/do but pretend you don't...consider the already made response...

That's on you.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 8:14 AM
Oh I tried. It's unclear to readers what infringement of the second amendment you were referring to above.

What state law was found unconstitutional?

Which judge wrote the decision?

Did anyone dissent?

I'm waiting.
Jul 12, 18 8:44 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
So there's no case, thank you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 8:44 AM
While you're waiting, you can put the time to good use to (again) review my response.

Seemingly you don't want or like the answer. Either way...

That's your problem.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 9:11 AM
Which response?
Jul 12, 18 10:19 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
The one where you pretend an apology doesn't mean you did anything wrong?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 10:19 AM
The one that addressed your question.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 11:26 AM
So none of them. Thanks!
Jul 12, 18 11:47 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Whatever you say, Po. Just keep playing dodgeball.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 11:47 AM
Actually, yes. Clear as day.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 2:55 PM
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Dodgeball? LOL...sometimes the only way to win, is not to play.

If you don't like what's served up, that's on you.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 13, 18 10:29 AM
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I'm telling you my question remains unanswered. You can be helpful and restate your comment here, or (which is what I think is happening) you can continue avoiding the question.

It makes no difference to me.
Jul 13, 18 11:45 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
This is like the time your pretended Alvin Bamberger wasn't clear on what he regretted.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 11:45 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 5, 18 9:03 AM
My point is that we already pay for Southampton Hospital through the property and state taxes that underwrite the exorbitant rates that the highly compensated hospital execs charge the highly compensated health insurance execs to cover local teachers, government workers and the 8 different types of law enforcement we have operating in Southampton. Why do local government entities pay insurance companies for healthcare when there are only two hospital networks in the area? The local politicians ...more
By dfree (547), hampton bays on Jul 5, 18 11:07 AM
What are you rambling on about? Obama made it a law that every single American needs to buy health insurance from a gigantic, evil health insurance. Trump and Zeldin are working to undo that.

Meanwhile, Perry Gershon wants the government to handle EVERY aspect of your healthcare.


From Russian Oligarchs to the NRA, your hysterical world salad is a heaping bowl of nothingness.
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 5, 18 12:00 PM
Educate yourself: google: russian oligarchs nra npr

Also, your reading comprehension is low -- I hate obamacare -- it's proof that the Democrats were in the bag for insurance companies. Too bad the Republican Party which hysterically campaigned against Obamacare has not repealed it and replaced it with something better as they promised. Shame on the Dems for passing that bill without the government option for really sick folks that would then lower the regular folks premium, and shame ...more
By dfree (547), hampton bays on Jul 5, 18 12:49 PM
If you compare the amount of time that The Honorable Lee and Perry Gershon have actually SPENT on the East End, the ratio would be 1/100,000. If you similarly compare the time that they have THOUGHT about the East End, it's closer to 1/1,000,000[+]
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 5, 18 11:50 AM
The hysterical left has spoken. And as usual, has said absolutely nothing.
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 5, 18 11:57 AM
@ even flow (& Frank Wheeler & Sturgis)

The Honorable One implies that PERRY GERSHON is a carpetbagger?!

Truly, subtlety of any kind (but particularly irony), is wasted on the Right-Wing.
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 5, 18 1:54 PM
Zeldin needed the twisted Bannon as a crutch to raise money from his white nationalists breeding on the East End. Time is running out on the Republicans whose greed and cruelty have shown themselves as the enemy of the people. Time to shut down Trump and his acolytes who are slowly and systematically robbing us of democracy.
By Jolly Roger (18), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 12:27 PM
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I’ll take the veteran, pro 2A, pro business , pro USA, Lee Zeldin over the screeching limousine liberal candidate any day
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 5, 18 12:29 PM
I’d take anyone over Zeldin, the people who campaign for him are pathetic. White nationalist, crooks and losers. Your well served. Hey bigfresh how about the explanation on why you called Obama , Hussein? You said you’d use him whole name now, but explain why you called him Hussein Obama.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 1:06 PM
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By Mr. Snerdley (390), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 2:33 PM
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HUSSEIN is his middle name and I feel it's appropriate to call Him by that name , it fits a Muslim sympathizer , one who would not use the term Radical Islam, one who proclaimed his Muslim faith in an interview with the weasel George Stephanopolis, one who bowed to the Saudi king. But to make you happy I will use Barak Hussein Obama's full name from now on.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 5, 18 4:24 PM
Hey bigfresh, as usual a quick fact check foils your lame argument. A few seconds of research debunk your Obama quote. But you tried. As to not saying radical Islam , your boy trump uses it to inflame his base, in your case it’s working like a charm. Trumps first visit was to where in the Middle East? Saudi Arabia. To try and mend fences from the Obama’ yrs . Keep up your rhetoric, it’s lame , but you and your base love it. Thank you for answering the Hussein question. Keep up ...more
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 6:28 PM
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@ bigfresh

One has but to see your name appended to know that everything that precedes it is a lie.
-------------------------

SNOPES:

"My Muslim Faith

Barack Obama admitted to being a Muslim during an ABC News interview?

CLAIM: Barack Obama admitted to being a Muslim during an ABC News interview.


STATUS: False."
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By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 6, 18 4:02 AM
@ bigfresh

One has but to see your name appended to know that everything that precedes it is a lie.
-------------------------

SNOPES:

"My Muslim Faith

Barack Obama admitted to being a Muslim during an ABC News interview?

CLAIM: Barack Obama admitted to being a Muslim during an ABC News interview.


STATUS: False."
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By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 6, 18 4:02 AM
Hat , Are you a Muslum ?
By joe hampton (3164), The Hamptons on Jul 7, 18 10:12 AM
Joe, he just posted a fact that bigfresh distorted.how does that make him a Muslim? What it does make him is someone who can look something up and call bs. Hey joe, are you relevant?
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 7, 18 11:50 AM
Can you actually spell it?

Perhaps you should try spelling M-U-S-S-E-L-M-A-N.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 9, 18 9:52 PM
Zeldin Represents Trumps ambitions to eliminate any program that supports the middle class and their future, rumps bigotry, ignorance, supports Guns that killed many of our Children and devastated the ability of our Children to feel safe even in school. Anyone is better than any Trump supporter and their Racist mentality. Zeldin will lose .

By 1percent (48), Quogue on Jul 5, 18 1:53 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This message brought to you by the Democratic National Committee.

Vote early and vote often.
By Mr. Snerdley (390), Southampton on Jul 5, 18 2:25 PM
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A strong economy benefits all of us , well those of us who actually work for a living , that's truly supportive of the middle class, taxing working people into oblivion and forcing them to buy an over priced insurance policy with coverage they don't need is not.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 5, 18 4:27 PM
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And a tariff war does not achieve that.

Do you listen to yourself?
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 5, 18 9:27 PM
There's lots of issues in the community that need to be sorted out. One minor one is all the plastic campaign signs are removed and properly disposed with after Mr Gershon win. Hopefully he has his campaign members do this simple task.
By yogi1 (11), on Jul 5, 18 2:29 PM
I'll vote for whoever can safely eradicate all of the ticks on Long Island.
By TheGoodLife (43), Westhampton Beach on Jul 5, 18 4:24 PM
Another corrupt member of Trump's staff OUT. Drain that swamp! Just need to get rid of the big swamp king himself and we can get this country back on track instead of going in reverse.
By johnj (877), Westhampton on Jul 5, 18 4:29 PM
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Zeldin down by 7 points in today's poll.
By allpeoplecount (13), eastport on Jul 5, 18 5:09 PM
LOL....what poll might that be? Polling only people at the hookah lounge you hang out at doesn't make for a statistically valid poll.

Just sayin'.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 5, 18 9:18 PM
You pulled the lever for a pathological liar. It would be an insult to the party in question to call Trump a 21st century Franklin Pierce.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 5, 18 9:26 PM
I'm not sure who you are referring to.

How exactly is Zeldin a pathological liar?

And no, I didn't vote for Hillary. Did you?


By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 6, 18 6:20 AM
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Radio, TV Host Ed Schultz Dead at 64 / CAUSE OF DEATH SAME AS ALAN COMBS: TDS
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 6, 18 12:04 AM
Chim chim they call me, heartless with no clue as always.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 6, 18 5:23 AM
I walked into Bookampton yesterday and asked for Trump's new immigration book.

The owner said "Get the f'k out!"

I said, "Yeah, that one."...
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 6, 18 6:38 AM
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Hahahahah
By Sturgis (447), Southampton on Jul 6, 18 7:34 AM
Seems clear to me that when They call me said

"Radio, host Ed Schultz had Died at 64 , with the cause of death being the same as Alan Combs: TDS

he was joking same as Slimes comment, so why did it get removed ? I tought it was spot on !
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 6, 18 7:38 AM
Seems to me joking about someone's death is in bad taste. Like if I said Trump's policies are terminal to conservatism and that's why Charles Krauthammer died.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 6, 18 10:00 AM
Immigration is when one follows the law and rules to become a citizen. What we have is an invasion.

I have also enjoyed the RINO hunt this primary season also, they are becoming endangered soon to be extinct.

Come November all the MAGA Candidates who are for secure borders and Immigration reform the American way, the Trump way will win even in the Blue Strongholds as Legal Hispanics and African-Americans are having their eyes opened to what Trump has done for them.
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 7, 18 8:48 AM
How can we be sure that's not what immigration means?

Because it would render common phrases like "legal immigration" and "illegal immigration" redundant or contradictory.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 7, 18 9:02 AM
immigration

: an act or instance of coming into a foreign country to live

Definition of law

: a binding custom or practice of a community or nation: a rule of conduct or action prescribed (see prescribe 1a) or formally recognized as binding or enforced by a controlling authority (2) : the whole body of such customs, practices, or rules The courts exist to uphold, interpret, and apply the law.

Legal:

: conforming to or permitted by law or established ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 7, 18 10:10 AM
That the word immigration is not limited to "when one follows the law and rules to become a citizen"?

I don't know, since by your own definition it has nothing to do with legality.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 7, 18 11:08 AM
Immigration, invasion, or mass exodus?

In 2007 the Salvadoran migrant population in the US was nearly 19% of El Salvador’s entire population. In 2007 there were 1.1 million Salvadoran migrants in the US. In 2007 The population in El Salvador was 5.7 million.

In 2016 the Honduran migrant population in the US was nearly 10% of Honduras’ entire population. In 2016 there were 950K Honduran migrants in the US. In 2016 the population in Honduras was 9.1 million.

In ...more
By SDG1776 (91), Southampton on Jul 7, 18 11:59 PM
Why should birthright citizens be accounted for?

They're not immigrants by definition.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 7:25 AM
Agreed, they shouldn't be accounted for because they are citizens and not immigrants, however, at a conservative 4.2 million plus, they do impose a fiscal burden on taxpayers for services received.
By SDG1776 (91), Southampton on Jul 9, 18 5:26 PM
TheGoodLife said : I'll vote for whoever can safely eradicate all of the ticks on Long Island.

Not good enough needs to be the ticks, MS 13, and Sharia practicing Muslims
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 6, 18 1:56 PM
Record 155,576,000 Employed in June; 10th Record for Trump

"Our economic policy can be summed up in three very simple but beautiful but beautiful words," President Donald Trump told a rally in Montana Thursday evening: "Jobs, jobs, jobs,"

KAG!
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 6, 18 2:10 PM
Which is funny, because it used to be "stocks, stocks, stocks"

I wonder why Trump doesn't talk about the stock market anymore?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 6, 18 2:14 PM
You don't wonder. You want a soapbox to score cheap points.

Go reread the article you cited in the other thread. The answer lies within.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 7, 18 7:59 PM
ROCK STAR LEE ZELDIN
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 7, 18 8:22 PM
Like mili vanili? As close as I can get for Zeldin.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 7, 18 8:26 PM
I think that's one potential explanation: that the stock market just isn't doing as well as it was when he wouldn't shut up about it.

POTUS is a master of mass media messaging, so I think that makes sense, but I'm open to alternative explanations.
Jul 7, 18 8:27 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, "points"? What're we playing?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 7, 18 8:27 PM
"What're we playing?"

Pin the tail on the Democrat donkey.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 8, 18 1:49 PM
Thank you for your positive contribution to the conversation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 7:21 AM
You reap what you sow.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 10:12 AM
And again, thanks for your constructive contribution.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 10:44 AM
Don't ask questions you don't want answers to.

That would be constructive.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 10:48 AM
I'm earnestly interested in your opinion. Your assumption that I don't is just that: an assumption.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 11:05 AM
And you got it! Stop the passive aggressive complaining.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 11:33 AM
To be clear, what's your opinion on the fact that Donald Trump has stopped talking about the stock market?

I don't think you have shared that with us, but instead YOU complained, insinuating that I am not earnestly interested in your view.

In any event, you are not the only user commenting here.

Dan, what do you think? Has Trump stopped talking about the stock market because it's just not doing that well anymore?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 11:47 AM
LOL. Still on the soapbox in search of cheap points. As I've stated over and over again reread your own citation.

Now, ask us again why the President isn't hanging out with his old "buddies", that one was classic!


By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 11:58 AM
I don't think that "buddies" one was me, but you're still not actually expressing an opinion unless you share the opinion in the article, in which case you're just expressing it in a roundabout way to avoid saying it: Trump doesn't want to talk about the stock market anymore because it's not doing well.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 12:04 PM
Sure it was you. Same deal, ask some hokey question in search of a cheap spin.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 12:34 PM
What's the spin, that you sidestepped the direct question about your opinion again?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 12:45 PM
The answer to your repeated question was in the article you cited. Not only is any opinion I may have irrelevant, it's simply nothing more than a veiled attempt scoring cheap points over nothing. The spin attempts are laughably obvious, just like when you threw out the bait on why the President wasn't handing out with his ol' buddy. Too funny.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 8:27 AM
Don't worry Po, I don't think your opinions are irrelevant :)

Who's the president's old buddy? I have no idea what you're referring to.
Jul 10, 18 8:38 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I'm here whenever you need validation, buddy!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 8:38 AM
Thank you for your positive contribution to the conversation.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 10, 18 8:49 AM
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I posted here my objections to Zeldin and his racist supported congressional bid. again ARE we screening ANTI Zeldin POSTERS ??
By 1percent (48), Quogue on Jul 6, 18 6:41 PM
In November 2016 the Dow was around 18,000. It hit over 26,500 in Jan 2018. That's a 8,500 point rally, over 47%!!! So now we may have a correction after a one and a half year rally. That is standard market action - nothing goes straight up. In fact, any professional trader (of which I am one) will tell you that corrections are a sign of a healthy market. Mr. Trump has plenty to brag about and he is the reason the Dow is as high as it is. No reason to speak on market actions that are routine, ...more
By Taz (478), East Quogue on Jul 9, 18 12:12 PM
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In other words, the president is willing to take credit for routine activity when it benefits him but not when it works against him. Par for the course.

Speaking of, he doesn't talk about golf as much as he used to either, huh?
Jul 9, 18 12:32 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Since you laughed, I'm glad the "punchline" landed ;-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 12:32 PM
LMAO.

That's a long way to go for a punchline Shecky.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 12:43 PM
I'm earnestly interested in your opinion. Your assumption that I don't is just that: an assumption.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3224), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 11:05 AM

Yeah, sure.

By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 9, 18 12:46 PM
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That the president should only comment on the stock market when it suits him is a perfectly valid opinion I respectfully disagree with.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 12:49 PM
And, how much money has been printed out of the clear blue sky between those milestones?

The answer would be more than 1.4 TRILLION dollars.

How far do you think that much coin can prop up said market index?
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 10, 18 4:59 PM
Mr. Trump is entitled to take credit for all that he has accomplished, including a booming stock market that sees a positive future. To make a big deal of a routine correction is what his opponents are trying to do. If 2 years ago, one could imagine another president, whether it be Hillary or a republican other than Trump, and see where this country is now, 2 years later, the stories would be very different.
By Taz (478), East Quogue on Jul 9, 18 1:13 PM
I'm of the opinion that presidents get too much credit AND blame for the economy, but if your position is that Trunp's tax policy sparked the boom cycle isn't it equally likely that his trade policies triggered the correction?

What if you're one of the folks asked to be "patriotic" about your losses?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 18 1:29 PM
PRESIDENT Trump! Making liberal Democrat heads explode since his inauguration, priceless.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 9, 18 5:49 PM
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Only the best people.

“Being a loud-mouthed **** in the ghetto you would think someone would have shot this ***** by now.”

~ Michael Selyem, fervent Trump supporter and soon to be former Deputy DA
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 9, 18 9:50 PM
Lack of common decency, from the right wing,will make a good persons head explode, figuratively.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 9, 18 6:08 PM
BTW bigfresh, the latest OECD report is out.

It basically states you're full of ****.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 9, 18 9:57 PM
What if we put Mr Z under investigation. For what you ask? We'll call it the Trump Rule. Investigate to find something, and if you can't find anything. Go after his associates, friends and family. Look for crimes in their backgrounds, and when you find one squeeze until they give up something, anything on Mr Z.
THINK YOU AND YOUR PEOPLE CAN STANDUP TO THAT Z ?
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 10, 18 11:04 AM
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I don't have any "people". I don't subscribe to one party or the other. I'm not a Democrat not am I a Republican so put that in your pipe and smoke it.

For you to impugn the Russia investigation and Mr. Mueller simply because you think it's unfair just proves your mettle. Pot and the kettle, snowflake, etc.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 10, 18 3:26 PM
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You want some cheese with that whine chim chim?
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 10, 18 11:09 AM
He's Pro-Second Amendment?
He's Pro-Life?
He's Anti-Illegal Immigration?

The one time I wish the Media and Hollywood elites are correct.

If only he is all those things....
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 10, 18 8:31 PM
It's only just begun, watch the impotent liberals scream in rage when President Trump appoints conservatives to replace the haggard Ginsburg and aged Breyer and a very possible bonus would be diabetic radical Sotamayor.

MAGA TIME!
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 10, 18 8:36 PM
Wow, hoping for a person's death. There's that hateful rhetoric I hear so much about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 18 10:03 PM
Keep your religion out of our government. That's the major problem most with "pro-lifers" and "conservatives". They try to disguise their faith based beliefs as secular.

Sad...
Jul 10, 18 10:29 PM appended by Mr. Z
Fair shake you'll be happy when there are no women on the Supreme Court. Let's see if Trump nominates one, considering his behavior in regard to them...
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 10, 18 10:29 PM
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bird if you had an A i am sorry for your loss...


there is counseling available for anyone in need out there
By Erin 27 E (1068), hampton bays on Jul 11, 18 2:54 PM
Says the ignorant who knows not of religion. Do some homework, back up your claim that God is the single most cause of death and war....then maybe you can speak on religion. Hint....since you lied......you won't find any proof to your statement....sad......


IN GOD WE TRUST
ONE NATION, UNDER GOD
GOD BLESS AMERICA....

And the original

By the President of the United States of America.

A Proclamation.

Whereas, the Senate of the United States, ...more
By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 11, 18 6:45 PM
Show me a society with a god, that didn't kill in it's name.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 12, 18 11:55 PM
@ Mr. Z

You might as well ask to be shown a society that didn't find social or political justification for killing.

Homo sapiens is a killer species. Our special history, worldwide, manifests that fact. Our finessing of religion to justify homicide is an iteration of our fundamental character.

Even Christianity, a religion whose scripture unequivocally forbids "kill[ing] in it's name", has been tendentiously interpreted, in the face of specific prohibition, to authorize ...more
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 13, 18 1:56 AM
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YAWN......

2 mythomaniacs feeding off mythonaniania.

SHOW ME EVIDENCE THAT A BELIEF IN GOD IS THE GREATEST CAUSE OF WAR AND DEATH.

That is your statement.

Back it up.
Here, let me help you two.....


ig·no·ra·mus
ˌiɡnəˈrāməs,ˌiɡnəˈraməs/
noun
an ignorant or stupid person.


By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 15, 18 12:46 AM
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By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 15, 18 9:38 AM
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By Bayman3142 (181), Southampton on Jul 15, 18 1:53 PM
I had the pleasure of being in the federal court of Sonia Sotamayor back in the nineties. She is far and away the smartest person I have ever met, including those from my decades on Wall Street. My politics may differ from hers, but I respect and admire her, and wish her a long and healthy life. Please refrain from celebrating heath issues of those you disagree with. You are sounding like a leftist.
By Taz (478), East Quogue on Jul 11, 18 12:32 PM
You had me until the last sentence.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 13, 18 11:25 PM
Hey taz,celebrating health issues with someone disagree with is not a leftist thing , it’s just in poor taste.left or right it’s despicable.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 11, 18 1:26 PM
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oh no, i was genuinely not celebrating a health issue, and I am truly sorry if it came off that way, I was merely stating fact. the bonus thing was just in terms of counting the potential for a third pick and again I see how it sounded and stand corrected.
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 11, 18 3:00 PM
Right, you're not happy that she's going to die, you're just hoping it'll happen sooner than later for "the bonus thing", that's totally different.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 18 3:35 PM
Haggard Ginsburg? Chim chim , I don’t believe a word you say.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 11, 18 6:44 PM
I for one don't want to see her die , just retire
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 11, 18 11:34 PM
Can we all agree that hate is not the answer? Leave politics in DC and let people be with their families without abuse? Ironically Sarah Huckabee Sanders' in-laws who were followed to another restaurant across the street and harassed after Sarah & her husband went home....wait for it....are LIBERALS!!!!!
By Taz (478), East Quogue on Jul 11, 18 4:36 PM
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"Report: Lisa Page LIED To Avoid Testifying to Congress"
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If this is true: THEN GO ARREST HER!! Do your fracking job. Hold her in contempt of congress. Fire her ass, freeze ALL her assets and Monies. Lock her credit cards and hold her as a TRAITOR until she talks. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. WE THE PEOPLE are SICK AND FRACKING TIRED of this TWO TIER justice system.
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 11, 18 11:33 PM
What two tier justice system? Did you already forget the IG report's conclusion?

No wrongdoing was found.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 5:24 AM
deleting subpoenaed e-mails , bleach bit and acid washing hard drives and physically destroying cell phones containing evidence of said e-mails is a criminal act and Hillary got away with it. If you or I did that we would have faced criminal charges, but since the Clintons seem above the law it gives the impression of a 2 tiered system.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 12, 18 6:34 AM
Lisa Page did all that?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 6:39 AM
And Peter Strzok!
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 7:34 AM
I guess Po missed the IG's report as well.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 7:48 AM
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Only a democrat would think insubordination isn't wrong doing.

Not to mention the inappropriate text messages which cast a cloud over two significant investigations - one handled with kid gloves and tons of evidence with willful intent, and the other heavy handed with literally no evidence of a crime.

The two tiered system is alive and well with Democrats seemingly oblivious to their own stench.






By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 8:10 AM
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No wrongdoing found.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 8:41 AM
Well, my Democrat friend, I hate to tell you the bad news...

Insubordination was found.

Insubordination is wrong doing.

When investigations are clouded by bias... it too, is wrong doing.

By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 9:04 AM
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No evidence the bias affected the investigation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 9:08 AM
Don't be insubordinate.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 9:12 AM
Yes sir!!!
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 9:15 AM
"our review did not find evidence to connect the political views expressed in these messages to the specific investigative decisions that we reviewed; rather, consistent with the analytic approach described above, we found that these specific decisions were the result of discretionary judgments made during the course of an investigation by the Midyear agents and prosecutors and that these judgment calls were not unreasonable."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 9:26 AM
You may be ok with insubordination at the highest levels, most are not.

Comey's actions 'extraordinary and insubordinate,' report says
By Laura Jarrett, Jeremy Herb and Manu Raju, CNN
Jul 12, 18 11:23 AM appended by Po Boy
BTW, the report also notes the overt and documented bias could not be confirmed as removed from decision making.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 11:23 AM
What actions were extraordinary and insubordinate?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 11:50 AM
The actions you have chosen to classify as "no wrong doing."
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 2:54 PM
Ok, what specifically?
Jul 12, 18 3:37 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
C'mon Po, this one is so easy, just search the text of the report for the single instance of the phrase "extraordinary and insubordinate." Hint: it has nothing to do with the actual handling of the investigation.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 18 3:37 PM
Read the article.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 13, 18 10:24 AM
LOL, read the IG report.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 11:17 AM
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Every political party needs a convenient punching bag. Hillary Clinton is the right wings . It helps to attack her to deflect from the genuine craziness of its own party.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 7:38 AM
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President Donald J. Trump appeared to have met his key objectives for the Brussels NATO summit Thursday, revealing that alliance members would “substantially” increase their commitments, and much faster than previously planned.
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 12, 18 9:15 AM
I admit even as a supporter and voter for Trump, I’m shocked at his rapid successes! This man never slows down....and RARELY loses. MAGA!
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 12, 18 9:18 AM
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Hey 27dan, that’s according to trump, probably the least reliable source of truth.we will see how it shakes out. I hope he doesn’t forget his lip gloss before his date with Vlad.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 9:18 AM
Maybe Obama left some of his lip gloss in the OO.....
By Sturgis (447), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 5:18 PM
Maybe Sturgis, but he didn’t have the relationship with Vlad like trump does.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 6:59 PM
Yea ,he had other relationships where he used plenty of lip gloss...
By Sturgis (447), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 8:35 AM
Lip gloss.......try knee pads
By Biba (464), East Hampton on Jul 13, 18 8:37 AM
Trump likes the knee pads ..... just don’t mess up his hair.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 9:34 AM

TRUMP STORMS LONDON...

Dinner At Churchill's Home...

As popular as Obama in middle of first term...

85% approval with Republicans...
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 12, 18 8:01 PM
85% of republicans approval with republicans?thats shocking!!! Best president , according to his base, of all times.27dan, careful when your doing them cartwheels of joy, you don’t sprain a wrist.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 8:14 PM
Disgraced FBI Agent Peter Strzok Proclaims: I’ve Never Been Biased in Any Case, Never Recused Myself

Disgraced FBI agent Peter Strzok said Thursday that his disparaging comments about “ignorant hillbilly” Trump supporters were not meant to disparage Trump supporters as ignorant hillbillies.

By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 12, 18 8:32 PM
democrats showed bias in asking you to believe that strzok was telling the truth when he said that he did have bias but that he could keep it from his work. except, he sent 40,000 emails showing bias from his work email address to his fellow co-workers.
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 13, 18 7:38 AM
Nobody is asking anyone to believe anything. They're asking for evidence to the contrary.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 7:56 AM
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By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 12, 18 8:34 PM
McCain is just as guilty.
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 12, 18 8:35 PM
What are they guilty of chim chim?
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 12, 18 8:47 PM
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DEFIANT STRZOK CONFRONTED FOR 'STOP'-TRUMP TEXTS
Threatened with contempt for refusing to answer at hearing
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 13, 18 7:22 AM
Tell the whole story 27dan. His FBI handlers advised him not to answer.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 7:27 AM
Democrats want to give the purple heart to strzok.

Evidently they equate being wounded in battle to cheating on your wife, lying under oath, spending 26 years as a dirty cop, subverting democracy and sloppily conducting the first ever coup of an duly elected President. Huh.
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 13, 18 7:36 AM
You'd think if he wanted to stop Trump from getting elected, he would have leaked the fact that Trump was under FBI investigation before the election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 8:05 AM
Fore, that would be too easy. I don’t get their argument. Trumps elected.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 8:12 AM
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Their argument is that, despite being unable to point to any specific action, the investigation of the Trump campaign MUST HAVE been influenced by bias despite an absence of evidence.

It's not a very good one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 8:31 AM
Trump wasn't under investigation. Leaking that false information would have blown up in the FBI's face and hinder any efforts to use the phony Russia collusion story as cover for the less than on the up-and-up shenanigans - if he did in fact win. When he did win, the Russia collusion dumpster diving went in to full swing.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 13, 18 10:51 AM
That's why I didn't say Trump, I said the Trump campaign.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 11:01 AM
"The US intelligence community knows that the Russian government attacked the US. This is not a Republican or a Democrat view -- it is simply the reality. All patriotic Americans should understand that Putin is not America's friend, and he is not the President's buddy. We should stand united against Putin's past and planned future attacks against us."

~ Senator Ben Sasse, (R) Nebraska
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 14, 18 7:22 AM
Even flow, deep breaths, your hyperventilating.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 7:58 AM
Strzok, another weirdo hero for the weirdo leftists.
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 13, 18 8:32 AM
Jim Jordan, another hero of the freedom caucus. He has bad eyesight and a terrible memory.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 9:32 AM
A farce. More opera buffa from the Republican House Oversight Committee.

Gowdy et al. continued to beat the drum of Strzok's bias without being able to show a single example of its influencing his professional conduct.

We don't expect people in authority (whether judges, cops, or FBI agents) to be free of bias. All we ask of is that they remain impartial despite their biases.

That's what the evidence shows that Strzok did.

The fat lady should have sung within ...more
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 13, 18 9:35 AM
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LONG LIVE TREY GOWDY et al.
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 13, 18 10:07 AM
Trump, the real Manchurian Candidate


"As I have repeatedly said, it is clear, based on the evidence, Russia had disdain for Secretary Clinton and was motivated in whole or in part by a desire to harm her candidacy or undermine her presidency had she prevailed."

~ Trey Gowdy
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 14, 18 7:24 AM
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Funny thing about gowdy. He’s a former prosecutor.seems to be not a very good one at that. He grilled Hillary Clinton for hours and hours. What was his final outcome? Not one thing. Same with his questioning of Strzok , all bluster no content.cant tell what he’s worst at , legislating or prosecuting.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 10:17 AM
Welcome to the swamp.
By Po Boy (2507), Water Mill on Jul 13, 18 10:22 AM
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I welcomed it on inauguration day.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 18 11:08 AM
They are loving trump in the U.K. giant welcoming parades and rallies. Wait, sorry. They are protesting his visit. He’s very unpopular in a popular way.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 13, 18 11:28 AM
The world has never seen such a great leader like our President. They have absolutely no clue on how to deal with someone with common sense! I am so glad America's deplorables put him in office! Thank you DJT! Keep MAGA!
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 13, 18 9:56 PM
Make
Asbestos
Great
Again
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 13, 18 11:28 PM
Remember when people took you seriously?
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 14, 18 3:45 AM
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Russian asbestos company puts Trump’s face on product

By Mark Moore, NY Post July 11, 2018
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By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 16, 18 9:30 AM
Farage: Trump Truths ‘Have Hit Establishment Like a Bombshell’

Nigel Farage has said, remarking that the U.S. President ‘gets’ the public’s concern over mass migration.

Immigration is being forced down the throat of every western country against our will. It's no accident, we are being led by evil people. Thank God we have Trump here in America.
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 13, 18 9:49 PM
"The tax cuts are working, federal deficit drops by 16.1%- Oh wait a minute you mean the deficits went up over 16%- never mind"
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 13, 18 11:29 PM
@ Undocumented Democrat

I feel so sorry for my Republican friends. Principled conservatives are caught in the dilemma of either supporting a capricious, egoistical boor who is their notional leader or of undermining the electoral chances of Republican candidates of conscience like themselves.

Their agony will be revealed in the midterms when Republican voters stay home in droves while the true believers of the Trump "base" deliver his candidates of significantly-less-than-fifty-percent ...more
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 14, 18 2:00 AM
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You take up a lot of space to say absolutely nothing. Almost as bad as the gig you just had.
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 14, 18 3:41 AM
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@ even flow

I am happy to let readers decide which of us has said "absolutely nothing", even flow, not to mention which of our comments is, at the very minimum, COMPREHENSIBLE.
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 14, 18 9:02 AM
I found a genie in a bottle last night and she granted me one wish.
Of course I asked her to make it so I live forever, but oddly she said she was prohibited from granting that one.
So, I just told her I wanted to live until a democrats is elected President.
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 14, 18 7:31 AM
Slime, you should have asked that genie for a little common sense.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 14, 18 7:36 AM
Strzok--who slept with an FBI co-worker behind his wife's back, texted that he wanted to stop Trump, that he was an f'ing idiot, and that Trump voters were ignorant hillbillies--just claimed that he held himself to the highest possible standard while investigating Trump....
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 14, 18 8:11 AM
Deep State Treachery....

This cabal is trying to OVERTHROW the FREE Republic. And, that includes Rosenstien. These indictments were designed to embarrass Trump while visiting the Queen. They were also timed to stir the pot before the Trump/Putin meeting.

Now Rosenstien wants 279 PROSECTORS to vet Kavanaugh? This is more treachery. How? Because DoJ staff lawyers ALWAYS do vetting. Using PROSECUTORS makes this a criminal WITCH HUNT.

WHERE is JEFF SESSIONS?
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 14, 18 8:21 AM
Chim chim, the indictments were handed down to protect our democracy.something you don’t seem very concerned about. If trump had any sense or dignity he would cancel the meeting with Putin. He’s lacking in both departments, so on he goes.i do applaud the way your going after Jefferson Beauregard Sessions. Another trump sycophant bites the dust.whos the next AG? That loud mouth on fox judge what’s her name.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 14, 18 9:20 AM
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Mueller’s Latest Indictments Show That ‘Witches’ Are Very Real

By David French, National Review
July 13, 2018 4:09 PM
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 15, 18 8:03 AM
Jeff who ?
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 14, 18 8:41 AM
Trump's Truths are bottomless mother lode gold mines:
- CNN = ABC = CBS = NBC = Fake News
- No Wall = No Border = No Nation
- NFL's Flag Kneelers = SOB America Haters
- Mueller's Coup = Witch Hunt

Time for one more Trump Truth:
- Jeff 'Sewer' Sessions = Fake Attorney General
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 14, 18 8:46 AM
Tower of secrets: the Russian money behind a Donald Trump skyscraper

The Trump Toronto reveals the links between a shadowy world of post-Soviet money and a future president

Tom Burgis, Financial Times July 11, 2018


It is precisely this approach to the provenance of the money that has sustained Trump’s business career that concerns many who have examined it closely. After a series of corporate bankruptcies in the 1990s and early 2000s left the property business ...more
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 15, 18 7:42 AM
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By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 15, 18 8:25 AM
Yes, from that liberal rag The Financial Times.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 18 8:31 AM
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Your a genius chim chim
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 14, 18 8:49 AM
Democrats don't understand America or her citizens.
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 15, 18 8:26 AM
Psst, Democrats are also citizens.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 18 8:31 AM
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By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 15, 18 9:27 AM
Disgraced FBI special agent Peter Strzok told House Judiciary and House Oversight Committee members Thursday he has never acted in a biased manner also belives he is not biased.... Comey told him so.
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 15, 18 10:44 PM
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By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 16, 18 5:04 AM
For you CNN watchers out there.....

Kicking off summit with Russia's Putin, Trump says 'I really think the world wants to see us get along'

When obama met putin he sat there like an inconsequential piece of furniture ,, Putin made obama shrink on a world stage ,,,, you could clearly see who the international statesmen was and who's the stooge ,,,, When you look at the body language between Trump and putin you see 2 equals ,, putin saw obama as prey

Thank you Donald Trump ...more
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 16, 18 11:17 AM
What an amazing man. Trump 2020.
By Erin 27 E (1068), hampton bays on Jul 16, 18 11:20 AM
And there you have it folks. Putin and Trump are now equals. You can't make this stuff up.
By johnj (877), Westhampton on Jul 16, 18 4:40 PM
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By Mets fan (1186), Southampton on Jul 16, 18 12:50 PM
A great day for America and Americans. We now have a partner in Putin. He’s a powerful leader who kills his adversaries with impunity. If you have an opposing viewpoint you could wind up on the wrong end of a nerve agent. He’s the kind of leader we need.like trump , he does not believe in the free press.these two a_ _ hats deserve each other.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 16, 18 5:12 PM
The Donald repudiates our own intelligence agencies and plants his lips firmly on Vlad's buttocks.

How long will the Republicans permit this disloyal pandering to continue before they abandon party loyalty and join loyal Americans in getting rid of this credulous, dangerous cretin?
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 16, 18 8:20 PM
Trump derangement syndrome has gone over the top and people have lost there mindsI know, its going to be so fun to watch what happens after the red wave in November and its going to be really fun to watch what happens when Trump wins his second term with super majorities in both the house and the senate. The popcorn factories better be ready for a serious ramp in production!
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 16, 18 10:50 PM
Sad day in America.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 16, 18 9:18 PM
Nov. 8, 2016 was a sad day in America. This is the Death of America and Trump supporters are applauding it.
By johnj (877), Westhampton on Jul 17, 18 8:48 AM
The President has every right to push back against an allegation made by a hostile msm and dem opponents for self-serving reasons to undermine his efforts to pursue our interests through diplomacy. He is correct that this phony collusion clap trap has hurt U.S. interests.
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 16, 18 10:47 PM
False: the assessment of our intelligence community is what Trump rejected.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 18 10:54 PM
"Things that make you go hmmmm..."
DNC emails hacked in September, and the first week of October...


Trump campaign cancels ad buy, promises future expansion

By Shane Goldmacher 10/07/2016 03:25 PM EDT
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 16, 18 11:30 PM
"When the history of Donald Trump’s presidency is ultimately written, July 16, 2018, will have a special entry. On a day when the setting called for a show of strength and resolve from an American president, Trump instead offered deference, defensiveness, equivocation and weakness.

If anyone can recall a performance by a U.S. president that rivaled the one seen around the world Monday, let them come forward. In the meantime, Trump’s extraordinary joint news conference with Russian ...more
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 17, 18 2:54 AM
If Trump had confronted Putin during the press conference, the news media would have claimed that Trump was admitting his election was illegitimate.

Trump didn't play their game, which is why they've gone off the deep end -- again.

P.S. To all the morons claiming Trump caved, I would remind them of another Republican president, Ronald Reagan, who said during his visit to Moscow in 1988 that the Soviet Union was no longer an evil empire.
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 17, 18 7:00 AM
highhatsize talks like he has only seen Russia through Rock IV. Yhe cold war is over.
Jul 17, 18 7:10 AM appended by They call me
highhatsize talks like he has only seen Russia through Rocky IV. Yhe cold war is over.
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:10 AM
Is there an echo in here?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 18 7:17 AM
The president has every right to push back against msn, with Putin nodding in admiration of his puppet. What a joke. Sold out.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 5:11 AM
The president has every right to push back against msn, with Putin nodding in admiration of his puppet. What a joke. Sold out.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 5:12 AM
Donald spoke for a majority of Americans who want diplomacy and open dialogue with Russia. Democrats want another Cold War. Good for Donald.
By joe hampton (3164), The Hamptons on Jul 17, 18 6:57 AM
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He wasn’t elected by a majority. He threw The United States under the bus. You can frame it anyway you’d like. He sided with a foreign adversary over our own intelligence assessment. He then when on a dialogue about Hillary Clinton’s email server. All the while his handler Putin was smiling knowingly. Trump is a useful idiot to Putin. He played him for what he is, a bulls_ _ _ _er who can’t fool anyone anymore, except his shrinking base. As for morons, even Fox News had some ...more
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:16 AM
short memorie.

President Obama ridiculed Mitt when he called Russia our biggest threat.

Obama promised the Russian PM MORE flexibility with Russia AFTER the “reset.”

Obama dismantled missile defense in Europe to appease Russia.

And Obama facilitated use of chemical weapons supported by Russia in Syria.
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:24 AM
Not one word of that was the product of your original thought. Those are all rote word tracks fed to you by your media. It's a terrible fate.
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:37 AM
Russia just hacked our election. It’s the foundation of our democracy. The intelligence community investigated it, determined Russia was behind it. Trump was just on stage with Putin and sided with Putin. Frame it anyway you want, go back in history and you won’t find anything as lame and hurtful to the truth as what trump did.trump is an unprepared fool and bulls_ _ _ _ _ er. Your blind faith in this loser is astounding.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:30 AM
Can you elaborate on ''Russia just hacked our election''?

By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:34 AM
OH! OH! I'll take this one. Russia:

1. provided material support to the Trump campaign
2. stole the private data of the DNC and Clinton campaign
3. stole voter registration data from several state boards of election
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 18 7:44 AM
Maybe you should read more news slime. DNC server and podestas emails, leaked before the election. Fla congressman sought stolen emails from Russian operatives. Go do a little research. But, you don’t believe it anyway. Your in the traitor trump camp.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:41 AM
Thank God for president Trump. You have had two years to prove you're supposed Russian collusion. Time to move on and make America great again
By widow gavits (208), sag harbor on Jul 17, 18 7:46 AM
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You understand the difference between interference and collusion, right?

Interference was found and indictments issued.

It's collusion if/when a member of the Trump campaign is charged with soliciting or knowingly accepting support from a foreign government.

Go Mueller, Go!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 18 7:54 AM
Making Russia great again! Blaming America first!! Why no disparaging name for Putin? I'm a deal maker, I'm a great deal maker, I make deals that's what I do. Had low expectations for yesterday, what happened to his bravado? Lost it to his master Putin.Traitors all of you who support Drumpf. Let's start with tariffs on soybeans, guess who picked up the China trade, Russia of course. Nothing came out about Syria at all. I guess his Russian master is going to put his puppet, the barbaric Assad right ...more
By Mets fan (1186), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 7:52 AM
"Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of “high crimes & misdemeanors.” It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???"

- Former CIA director John Brennan
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"One of the most disgraceful performances by an American president in memory."

- Republican Senator ...more
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 17, 18 8:30 AM
Our leader for another 6 years. And a dam good one at that !
By widow gavits (208), sag harbor on Jul 17, 18 8:34 AM
"Donald Trump’s press conference performance in Helsinki rises to & exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors'. It was nothing short of treasonous. Not only were Trump’s comments imbecilic, he is wholly in the pocket of Putin. Republican Patriots: Where are you???"

~ Former CIA Director John O. Brennan

"The president must appreciate that Russia is not our ally. There is no moral equivalence between the United States and Russia, which remains hostile to our ...more
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 18, 18 4:10 AM
Leaderless
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 8:49 AM
Remember the meeting with the Russian diplomat in the Oval Office? You know the one with only a Russian photographer? Guess who was in the pics released by the Russians? None other then Mariia Butina, freshly arrested Russian agent and friend of the NRA. This witch hunt is getting witchy . She also met with half wit son Don jr at a NRA convention. Great family.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 9:44 AM
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By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 17, 18 9:56 AM
. . . so says the anti-American less than quarter wit.
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 18, 18 9:21 AM
I’ve got better hair then the whole pea brained family. Everyone of them born with a silver spoon jammed so far up them they can’t walk or think straight. But, that’s my opinion. Don sr. Married three times, many affairs, which will be cleared up with the mueller investigation. Beats regular people out of money after doing work for him. Makes fun of the disabled. Don jr. Recently divorced. I could go on and on. Losers with no morals. My opinion also.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 10:05 AM
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Nobody would vote for you.
Jul 17, 18 10:17 AM appended by pw herman
You need to apologize for all your awful red inked posts aimed against long time subscribers expressing their opinions here. Speak only when spoken to.
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 17, 18 10:17 AM
PW calling someone out on red ink? That's rich.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 18 10:48 AM
I’m on a quest not to get my posts deleted. I’m ignoring the trolls.id like to apologize to the editors for my posts that got deleted. They were a little rough.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 10:32 AM
a question for our Democrat Party faithful here: did any of "the Russians" actually vote for Hillary? All they did was bring to light the corrupt swamp that is the modern Democrat Party, super delegates anyone?
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 17, 18 10:39 AM
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This is a straw man. Nobody is saying votes were changed, or even that the outcome of the election was affected.

For criminal charges related to interference, it's enough that Russia:

1. provided material support to the Trump campaign
2. stole the private data of the DNC and Clinton campaign
3. stole voter registration data from several state boards of election

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By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 18 10:43 AM
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They have succeeded into farther driving a wedge between the American people. Your lack of condemnation is astonishing. If you don't think that they have been working on this subliminal messaging for decades, you are really naive if you think it has no effect. Divide and conquer, with the perfect useful idiot at their command.
By Mets fan (1186), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 12:30 PM
Not just a river in Egypt.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 18, 18 3:50 AM
If a foreign govt hacking and stealing private emails and posting them is ok with you, you’ve got a problem. They were able to sway voters opinions right before the election. Your innocent little question raises more questions to your willingness to break the law. I like “the Russians “ like it’s fake news. It’s settled by our intelligence agencies at this time that the Russians did hack and affect a presidential election, as well as one documented congressional race. ...more
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 17, 18 10:51 AM
I am not condoning any foreign government hacking into any American's information. That being said , claiming that "the Russians" affected the outcome of the last Presidential election is up for debate, Hillary was the worst possible candidate possible, a creature of the swamp hand picked by the Democrat Party, corrupt to the core. She lost it all on her own.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 18, 18 6:01 AM
Trump is a pathetic excuse for a president and world leader. He’s never told the truth about anything. To claim he’s the second coming of a great man is patently false. If by “the Russians” releasing the emails changed the mind of ONE person, that changed the election. To say no one was swayed by the release of the private emails is just avoiding the obvious. Trump wasn’t elected with the majority of votes, to say he was a better candidate is ludicrous.the whole swamp ...more
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 6:44 AM
DC is made up of leeches who have fed at the public trough for most of their entire careers, Democrat or Republican affiliation doesn't matter most are leeches. Trump has called BS on the whole scam and they are freaking out, the MSM is dependent on the swamp for its' very existence so they are myopically , reflexively anti Trump and you seemingly have swallowed it all Fred, hook line and sinker.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 18, 18 6:57 AM
All the leeches are elected by citizens of the USA. If every politician is bad, the whole country is complicit in putting them there. The media calls truth to power, that’s why the “ president “ calls it fake. He’s the fake, a bullshi_ _ _er. He can’t stand to have his filthy feet held to the fire.if I swallowed the hook , your gut hooked with your far right wing beliefs. At least I have enough common decency to say the loser of a “president “ is a citizen. ...more
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 7:09 AM
Donald Trump: New Air Force One Will Be Red, White, and Blue
By 27dan (2420), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 17, 18 11:14 PM
John O. Brennan: "...exceeds the threshold of 'high crimes & misdemeanors'. It was nothing short of treasonous."
Jul 18, 18 4:13 AM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, it was so nice to see Mama Hannity coddling poor little Donnie. Most of "the right" here are Hannity sycophants. The parroting is sufficient evidence of that.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 18, 18 4:13 AM
Last week, however, CNN reporter Tal Kopan found a striking admission from CIA Director John Brennan. When he first applied to join the CIA, and received his polygraph test, he was asked this standard question:

Have you ever worked with or for a group that was dedicated to overthrowing the US?
Remarking on this last week during a panel discussion at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference, Brennan said: “I froze.... This was back in 1980, and I thought back ...more
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 8:01 AM
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Voting for Gus Hall doesn't make someone a traitor.

Supporting an autocrat of an adversarial government who murders his own people however...
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 18, 18 7:03 PM
Leftist Logic:

Obama caught flirting with Putin on a hot mic - "Magical"

Trump authorizes the sale of lethal weapons to Russian adversaries in the Ukraine, Trump closes consulates and boots 60 Russian diplomats out of the country, berates Germany for propping Russia up by buying their oil, Increases NATO's cash flow to better keep Russia in check, Trump authorized missile strikes of syrian posts - openly targeting strategic operations and allies of Russia., ome of the toughest ...more
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 8:00 AM
Our President is correct for trying to calm down the rhetoric from the Alt. Left about Russia being the Evil Empire. Thanks to this administrations policy's,tax cuts and hard work we are on the cusp of a new economic boom that already has everyone back to work and the US firmly in the drivers seat. Russia has already lost there economy is half that of California! Its China we need to focus on.
By joe hampton (3164), The Hamptons on Jul 18, 18 9:06 AM
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I agree that China is the economic adversary Russia wishes it was.

Now if only we had some kind of trade deal that allowed us to effectively isolate China and coerce reforms from them...some kind of Partnership across the Pacific...if only.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 9:17 AM
Joe, there is no “alt left” . The right has that in the bag with alt right. You know Pepe the frog, Richard Spencer, neo nazis . The group that traitor in chief called good people.as for the administrations policy, I can’t wait to be able to walk on our polluted oceans and bays after destroying all our environmental laws and rules. One last thing, take a look at charts of the stock market. Tell us when they started to go up.forgot to add, trump was trying to put out a giant fire ...more
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 10:13 AM
500,000+ SOUTH KOREANS SIGN PETITION OPPOSING RADICAL MUSLIM IMMIGRATION
Are they racist white supremacists too?

They need to stay in there own backward thinking country's
By Ditch Bum (544), Water Mill on Jul 18, 18 5:19 PM
interesting all caps statement. an interesting thought experiment. though this didn't actually happen.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (554), southampton on Jul 18, 18 5:44 PM
GOP = G-U-L-L-I-B-L-E
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 18, 18 7:04 PM
Hot news flash, the South Koreans aren’t Caucasians. So how could they be white supremacists?i tend to think no one wants radical anything, be it Muslims or any other religion for that matter. You get two thumbs up for trying to stir something up. Five thumbs down for a lame post.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 5:36 PM
Many a "right winger" thought they heard "trains" when they were handing out brains and took a trip.
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 18, 18 7:05 PM
I knew I should have researched the article before responding. You got the info from a right wing blog. Plus , it was a immigration issue, nowhere did it say radical Muslims.you added the radical part.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 5:46 PM
LIMBAUGH: "Left in a panic, actink like recent escapees from asylums"'

Trump hatred 'irrational to the point it can't be explained'
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 18, 18 5:55 PM
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Oh it can be explained :he's the embarrassing racist uncle of the family.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 18 7:44 PM
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Limbaugh , loud mouth blow hard. He speaks, the sheep listen.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 18, 18 6:21 PM
/\ realizing his party has no political future. Not handling it well
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 19, 18 6:25 AM
Mansour: If You Think U.S. Intelligence Is Never Wrong, I Have Some Yellowcake for You

The remonstrations of history are rarely heeded in moments of mass hysteria, and the current frenzy to punish Russia for “stealing” the election from Hillary Clinton is no different.
While it’s nice to see the Party of Alger Hiss finally take America’s side in a conflict with Russia, their new bellicosity seems a bit cynical. As Ann Coulter mused, it would have been nice to ...more
By They call me (2420), southampton on Jul 18, 18 9:23 PM
After Comey, McCabe, Brennan, Clapper and Strzok/Page ... what's to trust.
By Undocumented Democrat (1733), southampton on Jul 18, 18 9:25 PM
Confidence in Intelligence Led by Brennan, Clapper, Comey, Thanks to guys like these the American people may never look at the intelligence agencies the same again. People used to look up to them. Not anymore.Brennan seems to be the head of the snake. He started this whole Russia Collusion lie. His tweets are also unhinged. I hope he gets “unmasked
Jul 18, 18 11:32 PM appended by joe hampton
The CIA, FBI are are a far greater threat to our republic then Communist Russia. Those who enforce the law should not be above the law!Comey, Brennan and Clapper are all criminals and liars and should be in prison. They destroyed America's confidence in the intelligence community. They made those organizations political when their job should be protecting national security.
By joe hampton (3164), The Hamptons on Jul 18, 18 11:32 PM
Derpity derp derp, derp derp.


'Trump's son should be concerned': FBI obtained wiretaps of Putin ally who met with Trump Jr.

Michael Isikoff, Chief Investigative Correspondent


The FBI has obtained secret wiretaps collected by Spanish police of conversations involving Alexander Torshin, a deputy governor of Russia’s Central Bank who has forged close ties with U.S. lawmakers and the National Rifle Association, that led to a meeting with Donald Trump Jr. during ...more
By Mr. Z (10413), North Sea on Jul 19, 18 6:18 AM
@ They call me

Please, post some more brainless Breitbart poop. We are so tired of reading factual accounts of Trump's treasonous Russian bromance.
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@ joe hampton

Contemptible.

There is no one, no matter how long or honorable his service to our country, who is proof against defamation by despicable Right-Wing curs.
By highhatsize (3700), East Quogue on Jul 19, 18 2:19 AM
They made those organizations political when their job should be protecting national security.
By joe hampton (3164), The Hamptons on Jul 19, 18 7:58 AM
The traitor in chief has convinced his followers to only believe what he says. It’s classic. He knows he’s guilty, he is setting the table for the mueller showdown. You clowns are convinced by the biggest liar in history. You devour every lie like a baby bird eating a worm.you believed the would and wouldn’t lie. After the Helsinki debacle, the traitor in chief has zero credibility.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 5:18 AM
/\ notice how Democrats haven’t gotten anything right in 10+ years?

Doesn’t stop them from acting like they know everything that’s happening around them.
By even flow (757), East Hampton on Jul 19, 18 6:23 AM
Even after impeachment there were sycophants who thought Nixon got a raw deal.

Go Mueller, go!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 6:29 AM
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As the first bi-racial President of the USA Barak Hussein Obama so eloquently stated "Elections have consequences". If the far left wants to regain power , they must field a slate of candidates palatable to the voters, good luck with that.
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 19, 18 6:40 AM
Let the traitor in chief keep doing what he’s doing,that’s a big boost for the left. If having trump elected as a president is any indication, the bar is set very low.maybe we should start a birther movement against trump. I’m not sure he’s human half the time.birtherism worked to delegitimize Obama.you still follow the idea bigfresh, but you guys are easily misled.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 7:05 AM
Barak Hussein Obama did a fine job of being the worst president in modern times with no help from anyone else
By bigfresh (3676), north sea on Jul 19, 18 7:17 AM
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Time will tell, the loser in the Oval Office now is destined to be the worst in history.he is already, we just got to see it to the end. Your judgment is clouded on anything about Obama.you being a birther never had clear judgement on anything he did.but carry on, the right needs cannon fodder like you to protect the traitor in chief.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 7:29 AM
A boy called Fred S. lived with his parents in a village on the hillside. His parents, like most of the other people in the village, were democrats.

Everybody in the village took turns to look after the politics, and when Fred S. was 10 years old, he was considered old enough to take his turn at shepherding the democrats of his village.

For 18 straight months Fred S. screamed ''TREASON'' at the top of his lungs...and at first, the people came running.

But after a while, ...more
By SlimeAlive (954), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 7:54 AM
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Slime, great story. Keep going. I referred to trump as trump or the president, up until Helsinki. Now he’s nothing but a traitor. Keep telling stories of my growing up. I could use a good laugh.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 8:12 AM
The big joke needs a good laugh.
By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 19, 18 8:27 AM
Just wait for the punchline.

Go Mueller, go!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 8:46 AM
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By pw herman (1095), southampton on Jul 19, 18 9:07 AM
I’ll speak for myself. I love our country, just not the loser , traitor “ president “. I can’t speak for fore, but he sounds like a flag loving patriot.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 9:17 AM
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Au contraire, PW. I'm as American as apple pie!

That we disagree on what is best for our country is no sweat off my back.
Jul 19, 18 9:21 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Agreed Fred. POTUS is a poor representative for America, but our institutions are as strong and resilient as ever.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 9:21 AM
president trump is doing an excellent job !

cnn and fake far left talking points say our president cant be trusted, meanwhile cnn and msnbc ratings have fallen below the food & cartoon networks, for a lack of trust.
By Erin 27 E (1068), hampton bays on Jul 19, 18 7:54 AM
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That’s exactly where the presidents ratings are, low.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 8:09 AM
Putin was the Democrats Golden boy when their god Obama wanted his friendship. Trump trouncers Hillary and suddenly Russia is World Enemy No. 1. So typical
By joe hampton (3164), The Hamptons on Jul 19, 18 2:15 PM
You can try to re-write history, but you can't deny that the Obama administration clashed with Putin's Russia on several occasions, including Chrimea and Syria.

Also, Obama signed the Magnitsky Act into law in 2012, sanctioning high-ranking Russian officials, which Putin was particularly inflamed by. Isn't that why he wants to "chat" with Bill Browder? The former ambassador to Russia whose attorney was assassinated after uncovering rampant corruption by Russian officials.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (3869), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 18 2:30 PM
Joe, go lay down. You’ve eaten bad food or something. Your delirious.
By Fred s (969), Southampton on Jul 19, 18 2:25 PM
harbor hot tubs,