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Jan 11, 2018 4:03 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Public Hearing Set For Discovery Land Subdivision In East Quogue

Jan 11, 2018 4:35 PM

The developer behind the controversial “The Hills at Southampton” project, which was voted down by the Southampton Town Board last month, is back—although now its in front of a new board with an entirely different proposal.

A public hearing for the developer’s latest plan—a 137-unit subdivision targeting nearly 600 acres off of Spinney Road in East Quogue—was scheduled by the Town Planning Board for February 22 at 6 p.m. It will be the only public hearing on the agenda that night, according to officials at Thursday afternoon’s Planning Board meeting.

The developer, Arizona-based Discovery Land Company, is looking to build 137 units—a mix of clubhouse units, club cabins, village lots, village estates, and woodland estates. It also would put workforce housing units on a nearby property that has been included as part of the larger development, but would have been preserved under its previous planned development district, or PDD, proposal.

The subdivision proposal notes that 118 units are allowed under the site’s 5-acre residential zoning, the most restrictive in the town. The developer tacked on another six units because of its purchase of Pine Barrens credits, upping the total of units to 124. The last 13 units were added by citing the Long Island Workforce Housing Act—under the law, a developer can get an additional 10 percent density if the units are used for affordable housing.

Discovery Land first filed the pre-application for the subdivision in October—a little more than a month before the Town Board struck down its PDD targeting the same swath of land.

At the time, the developer was seeking permission from the Town Board for a PDD to build 118 units and an 18-hole golf course on the property.

For the special PDD zone change, the developer would have needed a supermajority support. The proposal only received three votes—from Supervisor Jay Schneiderman, Councilwoman Christine Scalera, and former Councilman Stan Glinka. Councilman John Bouvier and Councilwoman Julie Lofstad both voted the project down, citing concerns about its environmental impact.

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... these people proposed what they thought was the most environmentally sensitive project before the town in the form of their PDD, and they got hammered.

Do they really think they are going to now propose something that is worse and get approval?

Enough, stop wasting everybody’s time. Get out of town ,while the gettin’ is good.

By William Rodney (467), southampton on Jan 11, 18 5:05 PM
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Um, if this meets current zoning regs then they can build it. What part of that do people not get?
By G (316), Southampton on Jan 11, 18 7:23 PM
Take a look at the setback requirements of the current zoning.
By MikeMirino (4), east quogue on Jan 12, 18 4:44 PM
I love the arrogance of the NIMBY Libtard.

Shooting down the Hills was a horrible mistake. Much like shooting down Tuckahoe center.

We now have pissed off developers that are going to build the worst thing they can under the zoning laws...
By Draggerman (710), Southampton on Jan 11, 18 8:37 PM
So we should let developers do whatever they want? HMM i guess you think it would be ok with you if the east end becomes another Jersey Shore. How about some 30 story condos on Dune Rd. Clearly, you don't understand what a special the east end is if you are willing to sell whats left of it to the highest bitter.
By JM11968 (68), southampton on Jan 12, 18 1:07 AM
Of course developers should not be able to build whatever they want but their properties are permitted to be developed and they will be developed. We can react to their proposals with kneejerk reactions in an attempt to prevent all building or we can be realistic and weigh the realistic options and work with them to create projects with little or no negative impact on our populace and resources.

Your condo scenario is far beyond realistic but illustrates the ignorance of those who believe ...more
By VOS (1022), WHB on Jan 12, 18 3:33 AM
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i'm not suggesting we should have no development just smart development. 5 ace zoning and up zoning areas is Smart! Furthermore, ,I for one would be for promoting water front resort dinning in HB is a great idea but the town stupidly voted for 37 condos.
By JM11968 (68), southampton on Jan 12, 18 11:49 AM
Good luck selling 5 acre lots in Spinney Hills !!
By bigfresh (3087), north sea on Jan 11, 18 9:05 PM
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This proposed development comes as no surprise. The applicant repeatedly stated they’d move forward with an As of Right project if the PDD was denied. The opposition, who hoodwinked the public that the applicant would not develop the site if the PDD was voted down, can assume the responsibility. It’s a shame that two members of the Town Board, who were unwilling to work with the applicant to address their ill conceived concerns and obvious prejudices have robbed the EQ community from ...more
By Lion (261), southampton on Jan 12, 18 7:14 AM
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Let's hope that it adds another 100 children to the school system.
By tenn tom (168), remsenburg on Jan 12, 18 7:29 AM
Let's hope its 50 Asians and 50 Norwegians.
By pw herman (763), southampton on Jan 12, 18 8:46 AM
Where is the golf course going to be? Is there a way to register for a membership?
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (428), southampton on Jan 12, 18 10:26 AM
it's doubtful that there are enough buyers willing to purchase multi million dollar, 5 acre properties in the back woods of East Quogue to sell out this project. The impact will be much less than the gloom and doomers are predicting.
By bigfresh (3087), north sea on Jan 12, 18 11:03 AM
5 acre zoning doesnt mean that each lot has to be 5 acres.
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (428), southampton on Jan 12, 18 11:12 AM
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CR 200 Zoning (Country Residence)
Lot minimum area per home 200,000 sq. ft.
Lot minimum width 200'
Side yard minimum 50' of a required total of 125'
Front yard 100'

Without special permission no golf.
No golf = weak interest
By MikeMirino (4), east quogue on Jan 12, 18 4:55 PM
Are you suggesting that a grid of five acre lots should be constructed with each and every condition you list required for each and every lot or can you agree that utilizing the same total area and clustering smaller lots with less pavement and more contiguous open space would be more beneficial to the environment?

Be careful what you wish for, as the Hills opponents should have been.
By VOS (1022), WHB on Jan 16, 18 12:51 PM
How about a law for all developments of greater than 100 units that requires that the developer post a bond that finances the supply of fresh water for 1000 years to all local residents affected by any future pollution caused by the development. That would be assessed and owed before the bulldozers are unleashed.
By dfree (346), hampton bays on Jan 15, 18 12:07 PM
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