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Jay Jacobs, the applicant behind a plan to create a seasonal day camp in North Sea, is suing two of the project’s most vocal critics, seeking $65 million in damages, claiming that they defamed him in a flier about the project.
The two individuals, John Barona and John Gorman, are president and vice president of the Little Fresh Pond Association, a group of neighbors who have mobilized with other groups in opposition to Mr. Jacobs’s plan to create a summer children’s day camp on about 17.3 acres of land along Majors Path in North Sea. Traffic, noise and potential pollution to neighboring Little Fresh Pond are at the heart of their concerns. The camp could eventually boast an enrollment of 350 to 400 children, and about 60 counselors who would live... more
The two individuals, John Barona and John Gorman, are president and vice president of the Little Fresh Pond Association, a group of neighbors who have mobilized with other groups in opposition to Mr. Jacobs’s plan to create a summer children’s day camp on about 17.3 acres of land along Majors Path in North Sea. Traffic, noise and potential pollution to neighboring Little Fresh Pond are at the heart of their concerns. The camp could eventually boast an enrollment of 350 to 400 children, and about 60 counselors who would live... more
This is simply a (common) ploy by a wealthy predator to clobber critics into submission by compelling them to spend thousands of dollars (or more) defending themselves against a specious suit. Mr. Jacobs has no ...more hope of prevailing but, even if this action is dismissed for want of cause by the trial judge, the respondents will have to spend big bucks.
Governor Cuomo has interesting friends. There was the revelation less than a year ago that a "friend" of his, a lobbyist, was advising him on NYS medicare regulations to the benefit of his client hospitals. Now comes Mr. Jacobs, another "friend" who bashes small fry with legal thuggery by virtue of his enormous wealth.
The Town Council should deny Jacobs' application and send him back to Albany. Southampton Town already plays host to enough "friends" of his type.
lawsuits because they seek to stifle legitimate political expression. Citizens are allowed and encouraged to comment on land use and environmental matters - thats why there are public hearings. A lawsuit of this type if only meant to scare people into not commenting. Jay Jacobs should be ashamed.
It was clear in the debates that she hadn't bothered to check out readily available background on Southampton issues, and kept referring to her up-island experience in a series ...more of patronage jobs with Nassau County, Oyster Bay, and Brookhaven (yes, Brookhaven!).
She claims that she and her husband live in Water Mill, but they also have a Syosset address -- he works full time for Oyster Bay Town. She's only voted in Water Mill for the past two years, and he's never voted there, voting instead in Syosset for the last 10 years. Southampton Republican? I think not.
I know this isn't your point, and as I said, you may have one, but let's try for a little accuracy, too.
This is why the neighbors are so upset! Would you like more traffic and Majors Path to be widened? Would you like school buses going up and down Major's Path, Mary's Lane, North Sea Mecox Road? The camp charges about $8000.00 per child per summer - It is not for local children - It is sad to see this happen to one of the areas of the town ...more where the local people live - It is not South of the Highway but guarantee that is who this camp will have as participants! So So So sad......,
"...inequities are what drive the OWS protests. People don't want handouts. It's not a class uprising and they don't want civil war -- they want just the opposite. They want everyone to live in the same country, and live by the same rules. It's amazing that some people think that that's asking a lot."
However, why such a grand scale? The size proposed is ridiculous for the site, IMO. Must everything in "The Hamptons" be excessive, and gargantuan?
Oh, wait, I almost forgot the personality type we're dealing with...
As to the topic at hand, the developer is overplaying his hand and has turned public opinion against him personally and by default, the whole project. Town Board members, approve this at the risk of your career in local politics.
These people don't play by the same rules. If you wised up, maybe you'd notice.
And, there is no intentional "swing". Just sharing with goldenrod, and it's an A-B conversation, so C your way out...
Mr Jacobs give out many scholerships to alot of local kids in East Hampton,Sag Harbor,and surrounding areas.I want to thank him and his great staff for another great summer learning how to cook,sports,use cameras
and many new friend from all walks of life more things that are offered at camp.
It is the same old story of not in my ...more back yard,would you reather the kids hang out on the street cornor,if we can"t help all kids what"s next.
How can Jacobs be a real Deomkrat? I thought they were anti-capitalism after they backed the FLEABAGGERS.
You have to be the most short sighted fool I have ever encountered when it comes to establishing a sustainable society.
By taking what you feel entitled to, you don't really earn what you deserve, and thus broker millions into unemployment, and poverty.
You are not only an oligarchist at heart, but a fiscal anarhist in theory.
Former Federal Reserve Chief Alan Greenspan, is that one in a billion a**hole, who made America ...more the dissembling mess it is today."
~ Matt Taibbi, Griftopia (2010)
Welcome to the forum.
It will lead you to the 1960 Democratic National Convention address he delivered on July 15, of that year.
Do yourselves a favor, and delineate the crux of his speech, then compare ti to the "modern day".
What I thought was, "My, how little things have changed...".
"We" can start by creating total, complete separation of personnel in the employ of the SEC and Wall St. You are either a cop, or you aren't. You don't switch sides to work for the highest bidder. No more centralized "too big to fail". Lots of little banks, are safer, ...more and BETTER for the economy. More competition. You're not afraid of that, are you?
Next, a serious revampment of conflict of interest in the banking industry. A fiscal entity like Citigroup WAS illegal, became lawful ex post facto, and should not exist. The sharing of information in such an institution may as well be insider trading.
The biggest step of all, serious fiscal limits on lobbyists, or their complete elimination. They not only denigrate the voice of the people, they spend countless MILLIONS every year influencing policy. Almost 250 members of Congress are millionaires, and they most likely didn't do it on 170k a year. The purchase of influence, and VOTES must be put to an end.
That's my top 3, and all the time I have for the moment, but remember this:
Be careful how grandiose your delusion of self worth becomes. What you cannot, or choose not to do in society, must fall to someone else, and that doesn't mean they are worth significantly less than you. It takes ALL of us to make this planet work, and there are those who have not the ability to be more than a street sweeper, but, what would we do without that guy?
In the end, it has nothing to do with a "worker's paradise", and everything to do with everyone playing by the same rules. Honestly, I really found the Communist Manifesto to be wordy, and poorly thought out.
However, I'm MORE than sure you've read it, and even Bastiat, Voltaire, Anthony, Thoreau, Douglass, Huxley, Asimov, well, you get the picture...
The earth will most likely turn for 2.5 billion more years, and the sun will be a burnt out husk of iron in about 4.5. Sure, that's going to happen no matter what.
No society, corporation, or even goverment functions properly with the burden squarely on one man's shoulders. Anything producing "success", on a grand scale requires a team. One man, cannot do everything success on a large scale not only requires, but normally demands.
If ...more you think we are going to "make it", as a species, as we are, you are HIGHLY mistaken. If we truly are of only a handful of sentient species in the galaxy, or even the universe, it would be a travesty should we wink out of existence.
It's interesting how our society can so well covet rare things, but takes for granted how rare "We" are...
"Although anyone who speaks publicly has the responsibility to be truthful, lawsuits that limit free speech are not appropriate. It is particularly important when community members have concerns about environmental impacts that they should not be afraid to speak out. I am hopeful that some of the emotion will be ratcheted down and that the lawsuit will not be ...more pursued, but that the application will be considered by the appropriate boards, on the merits, with free and open comment by all stakeholders."
I still don't think the rich are the problem , but we'll have to agree to disagree on that for now.
The problem is disparity, or income inequality. Our infrastructure is in the toilet, but no one wants to pay taxes, because our government is a failure at regulation, enforcement, and responsibility at the Federal, and State level. Why, in a country so "great", do we get a D- score on bridges, and highways.
One part of the problem, is the low value placed on the "common man", by the "elite". Sure, there should ...more be a "bottom" to start at. But when it's so far to the "top", well, look at the last decade. "We" fell pretty hard...
Unless someone is mentally challenged, there's no reasonnot to succeed.
No disputes the neccessity of paying taxes, the rub comes when OUR MONEY is pissed away on worthless programs and redundant beuracratic departments, eg. department of education, federal and state. We are over regulated, I agree with you on that point too.
GREED.
Those programs are the recourse that remains, when the "elite" wholly undervalue the people that make their existence possible.
Your intellectual prowess, is simply STUNNING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everything in nature is about balance. I could lecture on, and on, ad infinitum about balance. However, that would not be succint. You are correct about a "motivating factor", and hardship is a good one. The most endearing, and educational part of History, is "daily life". Not just facts, events, names, and dates, but how society lived through the centuries.
To read about ...more an empire of the past, and delve yourself on just how the "plebian" existed, well that's not just reading...
Oh, well. You pick the vernacular.
GREED.
Sheer ignorance, on your part, to not have wised up to that by now...