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May 1, 2012 1:27 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Planning Board Reviews Eight Plans For Estates At Remsenburg

May 2, 2012 12:07 PM

The Southampton Town Planning Board hosted a public hearing last week to discuss eight possible scenarios for a proposed subdivision in Remsenburg that could feature between 19 and 22 houses.

During the hearing on April 26, Kyle Collins of KPC Planning Services in Westhampton Beach, a planning consultant for property owner Lawrence Citarelli, addressed the board and presented the key differences between the different plans for The Estates at Remsenburg. Each proposal, Mr. Collins said, takes into account different suggestions posed by Planning Board members, community members and other consulting boards within the town for the nearly 23-acre property that is located just north and west of the intersection of Nidzyn Avenue and South Country Road. The location of the subdivision entrance also varies in each plan; half of those presented have it along South Country Road, while the other half propose entrances on both South Country Road and Nidzyn Avenue.

“Given the extent of additional subdivision layouts being considered, we thought that it was appropriate that we asked for this public hearing to be reopened,” Mr. Collins said during last week’s hearing. “I do not want to labor on previous plans looked at; rather, I want to focus on the alternatives.”

The original plan remains the preferred choice of both Mr. Citarelli and Mr. Collins. That plan proposes 16 new homes and preserves three historic structures now on the land for a total of 19 houses. It also offers about 6 acres of open space along Nidzyn Avenue. The entrance to the subdivision would be located on South Country Road, and the plan includes two flag lots. Three of the proposed houses would share a common driveway.

Thomas Collins—who is not related to Kyle Collins—the chairman of the Eastport Fire District’s Board of Fire Commissioners, attended the hearing and stated that flag lots can pose problems for firefighters when responding to emergencies. He requested that the Planning Board keep that in mind when evaluating the proposals, several of which called for multiple flag lots with long driveways.

Kyle Collins noted that his client’s preferred plan remains the best option in terms of flag lots.

“Map number one would be the best interest in terms of public safety,” added Thomas Collins. “In the interest of public safety, the flag lots are a joke for us—we oppose every flag lot for this reason.”

The second plan is a standard yield map that calls for the demolition of the three existing structures and the construction of 20 new houses on 1-acre lots. The entrance to the development would still be located on South Country Road, and the developer would agree to create a nearly 1-acre park near the subdivision’s entrance. If he opts not to leave aside land for the park, Mr. Citarelli would have to pay a fee to the town, Mr. Collins said.

Mr. Collins stressed that his client does not support this version of the plan, which features a cul-de-sac like the original proposal, and included it only because a yield map was required by the Planning Board to show how Mr. Citarelli can legally develop his land. That plan does not include any flag lots.

The third plan also is a standard yield map but it includes two units of workforce housing. It also calls for the razing of all three existing structures and the construction of 22 new houses, with two being set aside as affordable housing. Again, the plan sets aside only about 1 acre for a park and it does not include any flag lots. The entrance to the subdivision would still be on South Country Road.

Plan four also includes a workforce housing component and calls for 22 houses on smaller lots; lot sizes range from a third to a full acre. All three historical homes will be renovated and resold, and 6 acres would be designated as open space, though not all in one area. The plan also boasts a half dozen flag lots and a cul-de-sac on the north side of the property.

The biggest difference from the three previous plans is that the subdivision would feature two entrances, one on Nidzyn Avenue and another on South Country Road. Nidzyn Avenue residents have argued that the road is too narrow to accommodate additional traffic generated by the subdivision, while those who live on and near South Country Road have complained that an entrance there will ruin the bucolic nature of the area.

“To me, this is all about our own properties and safety,” said Nidzyn Avenue homeowner Fred Berg while addressing the Planning Board. “The [entrance] road belongs on South Country—it is a wider road and it has shoulders. Nidzyn Avenue is a narrow road. It is very dangerous and you have to be careful. I implore upon you to have the road on South Country.”

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We don't need more houses in Remsenburg there are already too many for sale. The school district will expand and taxes will increase. Just because this guy bought this property and thought he would make a killing developing it doesn't mean we have to give in to him. Say NO NO NO to this.
By maxwell (169), speonk on May 2, 12 1:19 PM
The supply and demand issue is the builder's risk. Residents have no right to intervene in a venture because of their opinions about risk. There will be homes there, so perhaps it is time to accept the best plan.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on May 5, 12 11:17 AM
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Mr Citarelli purchased this land to develop he is proposing far less then he is entitled too . The land was for sale for a while anyone could have purchased it . I hope he makes as much money as he can this is america . People tend to forget about his civil rights . People need to voice concerns and work with the developer because if he does what is allowed by town zoning it benefits no one . Have an open mind because I know of a couple of subdivision in the hamptons the community fought the developer ...more
By Remsen (68), Southampton on May 3, 12 1:58 PM
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It's actually a nice plan.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on May 5, 12 11:08 AM
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