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Oct 6, 2010 12:09 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Saks Fifth Avenue closes Southampton store this past weekend; Water Mill's Citarella also closed

Editor's Note:
Oct 6, 2010 12:09 PM

Anemic sales and a declining customer base are responsible for the imminent shuttering of two well-recognized local businesses, including Saks Fifth Avenue in Southampton Village, which has maintained a presence in the village for more than 60 years.

Saks Inc. announced on Tuesday that it will be closing its Southampton store on Saturday. The landmark store has occupied the iconic brick building in the village’s business district—at the intersection of Hampton Road and Main Street, formerly the site of Southampton Town Hall—since the 1970s. Previous Southampton locations stretch back to 1946.

Shutting its doors one day later, on Sunday, is Citarella in Water Mill, where a printed sign posted on the door this week announced the imminent closing, citing a poor customer base.

Likewise, sluggish sales were the reason given for the Saks closure. “The Southampton store did not meet the company’s profitability standards. The planned closing is consistent with our strategy of focusing on our most productive stores,” Saks spokeswoman Julia Bentley explained in an e-mail, noting that, at 15,000 square feet, the Southampton Saks Fifth Avenue is the company’s smallest. “It is very difficult to represent the Saks Fifth Avenue brand in such a small space.”

Asked about sales specifically at the Southampton location, Ms. Bentley replied that Saks does not disclose the sales volume or trends of individual locations.

The store associates were notified Tuesday morning by the store manager, Ms. Bentley said. The Southampton Saks employs approximately 35 people. A statement from Saks said the employees will either be offered the opportunity to transfer or receive a severance.

The local closing is one of seven for the high-end clothing retailer in the fiscal year 2010.

Ed Stagman, senior vice president for store operations, was roaming the Southampton store Tuesday afternoon, saying he was evaluating what work needs to be done before the business closes to the public Saturday, noting that there is a lot of merchandise to clear from the two-story building. There will be no going-out-of business sale: the store’s merchandise will be transferred to other locations.

Bob Schepps, president of the Southampton Chamber of Commerce, of which Saks has been a member, said he was stunned by the news of the closing and said Saks will be sorely missed in the village. Its closing is a big hit to the local economy, he added.

“I feel for the 35 employees that will be looking for work,” Mr. Schepps said, adding that the chamber will try to help the affected workers by reaching out to its Saks contact and posting local job openings on the chamber’s website.

The building Saks is leaving behind has been owned by Robert Rattenni of East Hampton since 2002. He said Saks’ lease started in 1985 and runs through December 2011. Mr. Rattenni said Wednesday morning he has received nearly a dozen calls from a wide variety of potential tenants. After a long stay in the community, he said it found it “unfortunate” that Saks is leaving, but he is hopeful to have a new tenant in place by the spring.

Meanwhile, Citarella has been one of two anchors of the Water Mill Shoppes plaza off Montauk Highway, along with Blockbuster, which recently announced financial troubles. The posted announcement, which is signed by Joe Guerra, store executive, states that even with the store’s proximity to the newer Citarella in Bridgehampton, which opened in 2009, and difficult economic times, the company had remained optimistic it could still attract a strong customer base in Water Mill.

“It is now obvious that the Bridgehampton and Water Mill locations cannot coexist,” the announcement says.

Store representatives authorized to speak on the subject could not be reached for comment.

Citarella also has a store in East Hampton, which is not slated to close; another of the company’s shops in East Hampton, Tutto Italiano, was shuttered abruptly last week.

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omg - the fabric of our society--what will Timmy Bishlop do now?
By uncleronk (136), southold on Oct 5, 10 2:28 PM
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35 people have lost their jobs
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 5, 10 3:28 PM
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Wrong, 35 people will have the opportunity to transfer or lose their job. Please try to stick to the facts I know it is difficult for you, but I believe you can't do it!
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 6:42 PM
And this may prove difficult for some people...such as a single mother with a child in a local school who would have to now drive to Walt Whitman Mall. You are a really inconsiderate and negative person.
By ahhhndrea (25), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 11:57 AM
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And what if they cannot transfer, Ice? Ahhhndrea is right about you.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 3:56 PM
I am inconsiderate and negative because I repeated what the article said, to correct the misstatement of progressnow. I didn't say haha they lost their jobs who cares, so you and your opinion are meaningless to me. I never said that it may not be difficult for some of the people to transfer.

peoplefirst - you once again make an ignorant comment, look at what I wrote the answer to you dumb question is right there.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 8:02 PM
Wow and you are calling peoplefirst ignorant???
By ahhhndrea (25), Southampton on Oct 8, 10 11:49 AM
Wow, your reading comprehension is comical! I said he made an ignorant comment again, which is different than calling him ignorant, but you are obviously too challenged to understand that. 8-)
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 9, 10 12:36 AM
Considering I graduated magna cum laude (if you know what that means) from Harvard that is pretty laughable. I think that it is pathetic that you seem only capable of insulting people...you must have a very sad and lonely life. I feel bad for you.
By ahhhndrea (25), Southampton on Oct 12, 10 3:08 PM
glad we have a mega mall going up on 39 when downtown village is dying.
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 5, 10 3:00 PM
sounds like a lot of new jobs being created, and I know of 3 local businesses moving in
By (2), on Oct 8, 10 1:30 PM
hey....the new hiring hall !!
By clamdigger (79), Quogue on Oct 5, 10 3:18 PM
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what a shock,at least we will not have to look at the botox prunes crossing the street ,making you want to hurl the western omellete you just had at sip and soda.
By STANNER (15), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 5, 10 3:38 PM
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Mega mall Do you hear yourself ?
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 5, 10 10:21 PM
Where am I going to get my laura Mercier cosmetics?
By P.A.B. (23), East Hampton on Oct 5, 10 3:39 PM
time to nationalize all retail.
By justduckey (58), artist colony on Oct 5, 10 3:54 PM
yesterday I found out Citarella's in Watermill is closing its door as of this Sunday and now Saks is closing. So sad ...
By pkf242 (6), Watermill on Oct 5, 10 4:00 PM
why is this sad? Citarella built a much nicer store in Bridgehampton. Obviously, they planned on closing the Water Mill store all along. There is not enough business now (or ever) to support both stores.

They would love a place in the village of Southampton, but that hasn't happened yet.
By C Law (341), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 8:02 PM
FYI, Water Mill is two words.
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 10:01 PM
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big deal
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 5, 10 10:22 PM
yes it is a big deal, to the people whose areas are misspelled.
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Oct 6, 10 11:07 AM
or mispronounced

















By loading... (558), quiogue on Oct 8, 10 11:17 AM
i heard a High end Chef and Businessman are opening a Culinary Market in the old Citarella spot in Water Mill Called AVANTI Culinary Market (cant wait)
By (2), on Oct 8, 10 1:32 PM
Main St. turning into a ghost town. Taxes and license fees are probably murderous. Limiting government probably should be considered at the local level, too, so companies can afford to stick around.

I would like to see an independent accounting of the bloated payrolls and wasteful spending at Town Hall. Businesses in a resort community aren't able to both support the political class and stay in business.
By SHPredatorDept (72), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 4:30 PM
WTF are you rambling about? seriously
By C Law (341), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 7:37 PM
are your seriously purporting that village taxes did the store in?

Step away from the Rand dood!!
By C Law (341), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 8:07 PM
No way it couldn't have been the unsustainable culture of avarice, and excess, could it?

Southampton: Overdeveloped, Overpopulated, and Oversexed...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 5, 10 10:33 PM
Don't worry folks. I hear Stony Brook University is going to buy the property. They have a five-year plan. Don't sweat it.
By Mr Suffolk (113), Twin Forks on Oct 5, 10 4:35 PM
... would maka a nice night club.
By William Rodney (544), southampton on Oct 5, 10 5:01 PM
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No matter what your stance, Saks closingit's doors here is bad news for our area.

Oh, sure, we locals LOVE to criticize the traffic, the rich, the Mercedes and Range Rovers that clog the local roads, but please consider one thing:

It's the presence of the wealthy in this area that keeps it from becoming a miserable, depressed berg like Upstate New York.

Saks was a big draw for the wealthy crowd and weekend shoppers with money.
By elliot (250), sag harbor on Oct 5, 10 5:27 PM
Not to mention that the article states that 35 jobs will be lost and I can only assume these were local workers.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 5, 10 6:24 PM
Sorry elliot, but that is spoken like a true transplant. The east end for centuries was just fine without an overbearing influx of NYC wannabes raping the farmland to build their trophy homes, many of which are on the market, due to these people not being as rich as they thought they were. If the east end does fall into a depressed state it will likely have been facilitated by the loss of farmland and identity.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 7:11 PM
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Elliot....you are right!!

First Saks Fifth Avenue.....then Nello's...then The Pink Elephant.....Then Sant Ambroeus.

What will we do then?
By C Law (341), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 8:23 PM
Well said, ICE, well said...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 5, 10 10:38 PM
local or not they re people!!!
By dlb (21), sag harbor on Oct 6, 10 6:10 AM
I have to agree with ice on this one. Are you insane? How do you suppose this area made it years ago? My family was one of the family's that settled here long ago. How did they do it back then? Fishing, farming, local shops, and so forth. Back then the families that settled were pretty well off if not rich themselves.
The business from the city is what brought the quality of life down for the locals. If the rich from the city didn't influence the cost of living by bringing property value up ...more
By trueEH (2), east hampton on Oct 6, 10 3:45 PM
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No I'm not insane. Things were different back when "your family" owned the place. Yes, they are survived by farming, knitting, weaving, etc. Very cozy and rural--- but it's a different world now- don' cha' know?

The same areas upstate ( and the rest of the country) were also busy and prosperous back in the day. Now their depressed urban s*#*# holes.
Wealthy people bring prosperity. To most everyone in the area. Period.
By elliot (250), sag harbor on Oct 9, 10 12:24 AM
We will never be Buffalo bro!
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 9, 10 12:37 AM
@ Ice:
Your Mouth to God's Ears! ( Hopefully.)
By elliot (250), sag harbor on Oct 9, 10 3:30 PM
I can't help but think that some of these absurdly empty retail stores are next in line.
By traffic (26), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 5:30 PM
This building will be empty. The old library on the corner of Main and Jobs is empty. The Parrish Art Museum will be leaving an empty building in 18 months, more or less.

Good thing we're building a new court house.
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Oct 5, 10 5:30 PM
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Its all part of the cycle when the landlords realize they have to lower the rents the tenants will come back and when the stores are full the rents will climb again. Its called the free market people. If you don't like it move to communist china.
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 5, 10 10:27 PM
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The last time the "cycle" was this out of control, was during the "Roaring Twenties", and look what that bought the country.

The last twelve years or so should go down in History as the greatest, non-violent crime in our nation's history.
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 5, 10 10:41 PM
BS
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 6, 10 12:24 AM
The old library on the corner of Main and Jobs is not empty. It has been a thriving year-round education center for the Parrish since 2002.
By southamptongirl (1), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 10:46 AM
That's right. Shouldn't we all know by now that we experienced an economic bubble? Landlord's need to lower rent. many of these building were bought years ago and not much more than tax is owed on them. So why is it that rent remains insanely high? Why is it that the shops remain to over price their items if selling them for less means selling more? Thus, being able to make ends meet and pay the rent. For that matter, how much money is being spent redoing the displays in the windows in some of these ...more
By trueEH (2), east hampton on Oct 6, 10 3:54 PM
Actually, joe, it's not 'BS'.

The crock of bulls88t, was the allowance of Bill Clinton to sign the GLBA, which led to Brooksley Borne's worst nightmare.

joe, DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO BROOKSLEY BORNE IS?

I don't beleive for one moment you do, and I think you are the kind of fool that has allowed for the self destruction which has occured, because you have been brainwashed by some Irving Berlin song and dance number.
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 7, 10 1:26 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By shakeypolitics (2), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 6:42 PM
This is very sad for the viilage, what can go in to replace that ?
The Main Streets of this country are slowly becoming dinosaurs
last year we read about Easthampton Village LuXury Store Closings
now Watermill and Southampton losing a Historic Landmark unfortunately
this seems like only the beginning
We try to stay open year round but its a tough winter out here for Retail
When you can, try to Shop Locally !!!
By shock (70), whb on Oct 5, 10 6:51 PM
Saks a historic landmark.... LOL!!! Come on, you don't really believe that do you?
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 7:14 PM
FYI, Water Mill and East Hampton are both two words. Jeez, how can people live here and still not know that?
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 10:04 PM
Does it really matter ?
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 5, 10 10:27 PM
Shopping local would be great, but there's nothing local that's affordable!
By Sag Native (54), East Hampton on Oct 6, 10 10:28 AM
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as a matter of fact Yes. Yes it does matter. Those of us who grew up here and live here would very much like to have the names of our areas spelled correctly.
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Oct 6, 10 11:06 AM
Well you see Southampton and Westhampton are one word so normal human beings would assume easthampton would also be one word. And Watermill has been spelled that way on maps for years why would someone assume differently also because the term watermill is one word. So you can stop caring about the spelling of the towns. Most people don't care and trust me the post office can figure it out.
By thehbcrew (3), flanders on Oct 6, 10 4:42 PM
ohh and Water Mill got its name from the Watermill which the used for directions east or west of the watermill. So yeah.. Watermill
By thehbcrew (3), flanders on Oct 6, 10 5:10 PM
Indeed, Zip Codes make spelling the town correctly irrelevant.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 8:05 PM
Most people? Just the transplants and carpetbaggers who haven't been here long enough to see it correctly spelled in news stories and on the fronts of the post offices. Such a shame that anyone would say that correct spelling shouldn't matter. Just another nail in the coffin of the English language.
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Oct 6, 10 8:34 PM
The only "historic" signifigance Saks has, is toward a soceity of social ignorance...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 7, 10 1:29 AM
That s sad news. You would think that a big chain would have the ability to hold its lagging stores up until times are better. The village now has a big issue with the empty Libray and the defection of the Parrish Art Museum.
By North Sea Citizen (538), North Sea on Oct 5, 10 7:05 PM
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Add in the abrupt closing of Citarella's Tutto Italiano location on the highway west of EH, and if the posts above are correct about Citarella Water Mill and possibly Hildreths closing ???

pkf242 and shakeypolitics please chime in with details.
By PBR (4917), Southampton on Oct 5, 10 7:24 PM
Citarella's is indeed closing. Hildreth's is not considering closing, according to the COO.
Oct 6, 10 9:51 AM appended by BOReilly
Henry Hildreth: "Over my dead body is Hildreth's going out of business!"
By BOReilly (135), 27east Web Editor on Oct 6, 10 9:51 AM
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Brick and mortar retail is dying. Not just a village issue, but the Village of SH is dying also.

The reason? No young people. They are all in Sag Harbor.
By C Law (341), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 7:34 PM
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A Patagonia store would be nice there. Outdoorsy type of clothing and surfing too.Otherwise, there is always the break glass and call Hooters option. My thoughts are with the employees.
By V.Tomanoku (744), southampton on Oct 5, 10 7:42 PM
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To bad Hooters isnt selling more franchises, Hooters of the Hamptons would have a nice ring to it. Maybe current hooters owners are allowed to build
By thehbcrew (3), flanders on Oct 6, 10 4:45 PM
That would be a hoot.
By V.Tomanoku (744), southampton on Oct 11, 10 8:35 PM
Well I don't know about the rest of you but i am totally F***** this Christmas!
By bobba (39), southampton on Oct 5, 10 8:49 PM
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Oh by the way from a well enducated RE prof (not from out here by the way) two words...... Great Opportunity!
By bobba (39), southampton on Oct 5, 10 8:51 PM
I haven't been back for many years....so sad to hear what's happening to the business area...I remember when Saks was a seasonal store along with Henri Bendel's and Elizabeth Arden...even though I miss Southampton, I'm not sure I want to see what it's become!
By cousinelizabeth (1), endicott on Oct 5, 10 9:25 PM
Perhaps Saks would have performed better if the lines were painted on Hampton Road and properly direct people to Main Street. I mean c'mon, how long does it take to re-stripe a road after it's re-paved?
By Uniblab (24), Water Mill on Oct 5, 10 10:07 PM
Or maybe they would have done better if they spelled it Sa Ks
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 7, 10 12:39 AM
This is simply the natural result of an economy bloated by gluttony, and avarice. An economy driven by dollars worth as much as some ether on a hot city sidewalk. Wall St. placed their bets on derivatives, and the country lost their bet.

You can only inflate a balloon so much...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 5, 10 10:45 PM
Saks didn't have a good selection. I never could figure out its buyers thinking. This is a resort community bursting with parties and entertainments of all types yet it often didn't carry clothes for them. I am very sorry for its employees though. Won't be easy finding work out here. As for empty stores, blame greedy landlords for upping rents to impossible levels.
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Oct 5, 10 11:26 PM
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change is good. this happens from time to time. if that store offered products and services that people wanted, it would still be in business. by definition it must not have been a big draw, home offices don't close money making stores. the federal and local governments are the only ones not scaling back. its what smart organizations do.
By justduckey (58), artist colony on Oct 6, 10 6:44 AM
and don't think for a second that the outstanding questions about taxation and the uncertainty in the corporate environment didn't contribute to this closure.

Congressman Bishop received a failing grade for his tax and spending votes in Washington on a Congressional Scorecard just released by the National Tax Limitation Committee (NTLC). Committee President Lewis K. Uhler commented, "Congressman Bishop received a score of 0 out of a possible 100 points which translates into a grade of "F". ...more
By justduckey (58), artist colony on Oct 6, 10 6:50 AM
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Why do you insist on posting this nonsense on every story?

the National Tax Limitation Committee, thought it may sound like some official government body, is nothing more than a far right conservative political organization founded by Reagan lackey Lew Uhler, a right-wing ideologue trying to advance his extremist agenda which is to increase the power of corporations over our government. Laughable that you would quote his "study"
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 6, 10 9:33 AM
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This coming from someone so far to left Hugo Chavez looks like a moderate.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Oct 6, 10 11:57 AM
chavez, marxism, socialism, blah, blah, blah. I notice you do not dispute the assertions made about this right-wing group.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 12:49 PM
Hey, I just checked this justduckey's comments, and he must be one of Randy Altschuler's cybergoons beating up on Tim Bishop in the Congressional race. The man has posted this identical comment under 5 articles, this one, the two on the East Hampton and Southampton budgets, the one on the Army corps and sand removal, and the one on Blumenthal running for Assembly. It has zip to do with any of the pieces it's under. It's like a campaign robo-call. What a jerk!
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Oct 6, 10 1:40 PM
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Of course I dispute your unfounded assertions.

You do believe in the principles of socialism, do you not?

Confiscation of what one group earns for the benefit of others who did not is at the heart of your "social justice" philosophy is it not?
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Oct 6, 10 1:47 PM
Get real Obama is a Fascist not a Socialist or Marxist. He is a Globalist puppet.
I will still vote for Bishop, because Randy is pure evil!
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 8:09 PM
Good ole ICE has the congressional contest down cold. A penetrating analysis, and right on.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Oct 6, 10 9:49 PM
Hey, Ice the far right tea party leaders Christine O'Donell, Sharon Angle, Rand Paul, Jim DeMint, Sarah Palin, et al believe that if a 14 year-old girl is raped by her uncle she should be forced by the government to have the child. That is NOT an exaggeration of their stance. Talk about tyranny and fascism! And yes, Altschuler is pure evil.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 7, 10 1:53 PM
I think women should have the right to choose and law abiding citizens should be able to have guns. This makes it difficult for me to jump on one bus or the other.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 7, 10 2:39 PM
Citarella's in Water Mill IS closing. Details to come.
By BOReilly (135), 27east Web Editor on Oct 6, 10 8:56 AM
That's a really expensive fish store. The customers there should all try Cor J's in Hampton Bays. Jimmy will set you up.
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Oct 6, 10 10:34 AM
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Perhaps they can put a clothing store in there with affordable prices , like a TJ Maxx, H&M, Century 21 and then it will be packed again and everyone can get their jobs back plus some...!
By Infoseeker (274), Hampton Bays on Oct 6, 10 9:14 AM
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TJ Maxx is just what main street Southampton needs! Maybe a Marshall's.... Puke!
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 8:11 PM
OMG I GET TO SAY IT---->
55 comments and no one has said .... yes yes yes, im about to burst ...

CASINO!!!!!
By david h (405), southampton on Oct 6, 10 11:05 AM
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Slots on Main???
By V.Tomanoku (744), southampton on Oct 6, 10 11:59 AM
You get the prize, bro. By the way, is your avatar busy tonight?
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Oct 6, 10 9:54 PM
You can probably say bye-bye to Radu Physical Culture. The writing is on the wall...
By Toto (25), southampton on Oct 6, 10 12:25 PM
hey philathome, if the shoe fits wear it brother. and progressnow - if you don't think this is the most important issue of your time you should check your boy chris matthews.
By justduckey (58), artist colony on Oct 6, 10 12:42 PM
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What the heck does Chris Matthews have to do with it? If you are implying that he is somehow the leader of the progressives the way that Sarah Palin is the leader of your party then you are mistaken.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 1:39 PM
Actually, the destroyer of currencies George Soros and his billions funding a myriad of leftist front groups is the leader of the "progressive" movement.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Oct 6, 10 1:51 PM
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... would make a nice strip club.
By johnj (986), Westhampton on Oct 6, 10 2:57 PM
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why am I reminded that October is Breast Cancer Awareness Month?
By loading... (558), quiogue on Oct 8, 10 11:53 AM
Let's turn it into a spinning/cycling gym and get those skinny hoes and their bentleys off butter lane and into the cheese shop.
By bridgewoodsmom (13), bridgehampton on Oct 6, 10 3:11 PM
Cheese! Pasta ! Bread ! Whole Foods or Trader Joe's - BRING IT ON! Let's get all the SH boney-ass broads into a real food store. Everyone is getting real sick and tired of the Schmit's/La Parmagina/Tates price gouging and crap quality (ok, Tates excluded on that one). I vote for Whole Foods first because of the healthy selections and reasonable prices on prepared foods. Trader Joe's would be my second choice, you will never see better prices on cheese and snack/convenience/party foods. Some new ...more
By SisBoomBonacker (106), Hamptons on Oct 6, 10 3:55 PM
I can agree with you on Schmidts being overprice, but their food is good quality.
Tate's is overpriced AND poor quality, not to mention has rude management. However, I take great exception to you including La Parmigiana in your mix! Their food is excellent tasting, made from quality ingredients, reasonably priced and family run, exactly everything I think a local place should be.
By RealLocal (76), Bridgehampton on Oct 7, 10 9:42 AM
leave la parmagina out of this...their prices are not that terrible and the food is always great
By Kaiser Sozay (31), east end on Oct 7, 10 4:54 PM
I love how Saks reps say that it's the too small space that's making it close. I love how after all these years of being open, now it's closing due to poor customer base. COME ON PEOPLE!! LMAO!!!
By LovedHerTown (130), southampton on Oct 6, 10 4:24 PM
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I hate to hear of any store closing in the village as it is hard to find a replacement tenant. However, the excesses of the last decade have to work through the system. I hope over time the village can rebuild its base with occupants that closely resemble the values and needs of the community—that is the only way the village will thrive. The “pop ups” are not a long term solution. The super high end shops only meet the needs of the transient. Back to basics with affordable rents will be the ...more
By surfmat (15), Southampton on Oct 6, 10 5:58 PM
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Fortunoff is gone, now Saks. Staples hasn't opened yet in Bridgehampton, four months after advertising for help. And I could go on.
Will Pier 1 leave too, as I've heard?
Saks will likely be replaced by an upscale 99 cent store (like $ 1.59)
There are no jobs out here, and our duly elected government is juggling statistics to hide its failures, not just Democrat or Republican, but the whole Washington mess, which is tied to Wall Street.
On second thought, maybe Saks could become a ...more
By MattS (7), E H on Oct 6, 10 6:40 PM
Screw Citarella, what we need out here is a Trader Joe's.
By btdt (439), water mill on Oct 6, 10 7:49 PM
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Maybe if the old coots who run the village of Southampton allowed shops to be open past 5 pm, they might get decent stores in here. Drive through the village at Christmastime - it's absolutely beautiful. And totally empty. Niot a soul on the street. not a shop open and selling items. Where I grew up, my village was bustling at Christmastime and everyone was in good spirits.
By btdt (439), water mill on Oct 6, 10 7:58 PM
gee I remember as a kid walking around the old Saks store which I guess is where the USB on Main street is... I remember how exciting when they announced their move....sad to see them go....but maybe a great opportunity for a new retailer to come in ???
By Jon (4), Easthampton on Oct 6, 10 9:41 PM
Well I have to comment on this one. I actually was ready to drop a few bucks in saks over the summer and couldn't find much to buy. I was disappointed in
the selection. Everything looked old fashioned and quite tacky. I must say that
they would have been better off with better buyers for the store. I found one simple Donna Karen dress in black which I purchased. The rest of the dresses looked
out dated. -On a different note I think that we the local people should try to shop in
our ...more
By patricia (8), southampton on Oct 6, 10 9:56 PM
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Marxism, Socialism, however you try to label Saks, it was a representation of a culture of greed, and avarice which could not sustain itself, because gluttony only knows one end...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 7, 10 1:31 AM
And like every other capitalistic entity it has the right to exist and the right to fail. sorry if that does not fit into your brand of theology
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 7, 10 8:12 AM
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Okay. so what happened to AIG's, BOA's, Chase's, Citigroup's, GM's, Crysler's and but not least Fannie and Freddie's right to fail?

The seems to be a multi billion dollar hole in your statement.
Oct 7, 10 2:46 PM appended by ICE
last but not least
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 7, 10 2:46 PM
I agree Ice. Now your getting the idea.
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 7, 10 5:53 PM
Capitalism does not give anyone the right to avaristic behavior, and excess.

That is a cultural problem, more than an economic one.
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 7, 10 7:12 PM
Some people should move to Beijing where there ideology is more tolerated and they would feel more at home.
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 8, 10 12:47 AM
Fannie and Freddie's CEOs are each "compensated" to the tune of $4 to 6 million yearly for their *ahem* performance. Nice work if you can fund it.
By loading... (558), quiogue on Oct 8, 10 12:40 PM
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Please, joe.

If we keep living the way you profess, to boom, and bust, your great, or even your grandchildren will be speaking Chinese...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 11, 10 12:16 AM
i think u meant" nice work if u can find it", not "fund" but a very very very funny & apropriate typo (obviously the 'i' is next to the 'u') - but in case u slid a very dry joke in on use i'd like to giv you your credit!
By david h (405), southampton on Oct 12, 10 1:13 PM
Thanks Patricia for encouraging people to shop Locally, Yesterday I worked in my store and every customer I had was a local, it was really encouraging to see that, The mom and pop shops that are here need support to survive the wave of retail and business ups and downs .WHB Independent businesses support
the 3/50 project, Check it out and you will see how important it is to our local economy to promote and support your local independent retailer as well as the consumers who shop with them.
Stay ...more
By shock (70), whb on Oct 7, 10 8:07 AM
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26 more days and the radicals go back in there box. We all can breath easy again for a while. Another generation as now seen the damage and the hoax that is progressive politics.And in our great system of checks and balances they have rejected it ! Good bye Harry, Nancy, Barney and Maxine . Please where every you go after we reject you take little timmy with you.
By 27dan (2703), south hampton on Oct 7, 10 8:27 AM
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Boy are you going to be eating crow in 26 days! Don't worry, I'll be here to remind you. By the way, did you hear that old Ronnie did not pass the republican purity test?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 7, 10 12:41 PM
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The U.S. Chamber of commerce is soliciting and USING foreign money to buy adds to get republicans elected. 96% of ALL monies spent by democrats comes from individual donors under $200. 75% of ALL monies spent by republicans comes from UNDISCLOSED sources and, of the other 25%, all but a small fraction came from just 3 billionaires. Ronald Reagan my _____.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 7, 10 12:47 PM
fcmcmann:

"96% of ALL monies spent by democrats comes from individual donors under $200".

This is a lie, and since you're repeating it...well, what does that make you exactly?



By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Oct 7, 10 2:13 PM
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http://www.opensecrets.org/overview/DonorDemographics.php

Small donors favor Republicans, and large donors favor Democrats by a huge proportion.

Which party got the most money from BP? Democrats

Which politician recieved the most from BP in the last few elections cycles? Senator Obama.

The Dems were also, by far, the largest recipient of Wall Street political contributions as well.

By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Oct 7, 10 2:23 PM
Both parties take money from special interests, so please don't point the finger at the other, just look in your mirrors.
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 7, 10 2:51 PM
Realityfirst, she is most definitely not lying. The democratic national committee just raised a record amount of money, $16 million dollars - 80% of which came from individuals donating $200 and under (http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43081.html)

Now, while the RNC raised substantially less, in the same amount of time groups like the Chamber of commerce and Karl Rove's super-pac outspent democrats by tens of millions of dollars, the majority of which came from large donors, ...more
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Oct 7, 10 3:23 PM
I never comment, but I feel very Honored to see Ms. Nancy Pelosi on this blog! Please all give a standing O!!!!!

PLEASE FCM before you comment on politics PLEASE understand history basics.
it is illegal for the USCofC to accept and use money for political adds or gain. it is audited and controled (much unlike your liberal friends who are on thier last scotch and soda)
btw tell Mr Soros i said hello......... Oh who is that at my door...... the Soros police...... so sorry mien ...more
By bobba (39), southampton on Oct 8, 10 9:30 PM
Al FRANKIN!!!!!!!! funnier as a politician!!!!!! wake up everyone!
By bobba (39), southampton on Oct 9, 10 8:38 PM
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Then you have local oil billionaire David Koch and his brother giving $200 million to fund tea party organizations because he wants less restrictions on business. He knows that if their candidates get in he and others like him will be free to run their expansive empires without restraint. Very scary. http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2010/08/30/100830fa_fact_mayer
By goldenrod (505), southampton on Oct 7, 10 7:29 PM
If people continue to patronize these ripoff businesses listed above, they will continue to get away with it. Example, I needed a stick of butter in a hurry recently, so I went to Sag Harbor's only grocery store. They only sell 1/2 pound packages at 2.99 per half pound. I can go to BJ's and buy 4 pounds of butter for 7.99. That same 4 pounds in the Sag Harbor store would cost me almost $24.00 Now tell me, is something wrong here or what?

That's why I make a twice monthly trip to Riverhead. ...more
By BruceB (142), Sag Harbor on Oct 7, 10 8:34 PM
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So go to Bjs its your right and get a haircut while your there
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 8, 10 12:49 AM
God you're not nice!!! You could have stopped at "So go to Bjs its your right".
By unelana (29), North Wales PA on Oct 8, 10 9:49 AM
I see I say things you don't like to hear. Hmm, I wonder why? Your biggest enemy Joe are sites like Amazon, Ebay, Itune's etc. They have wiped out antique dealers, book sellers, record shops etc on the east end. This is still no excusefor some businesses to rip off the locals. And you wonder why I go to Riverhead.
By BruceB (142), Sag Harbor on Oct 8, 10 12:36 PM
I was kidding my good man, don't get so bent, I have no problem with amazon or ebay (ituns yes, like most proprietary software I think It monopolizes things to much and fosters union style corruption and back room deals) Go to Riverhead I go all the time ill pick you up on the way. Go to the Amazon itself to find I deal its your constitutional right. But I still think you need a hair cut
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 9, 10 1:19 AM
I think Joe has listened to far too much Irving Berlin, and should stop in for some "American" rose colored capitalistic glasses while he's over there. Oh, wait, he already has a pair.

Simple cause, and effect. All those multi-million earning CEO's, are the ones whose lifestyle of ego, self entitlement, greed, and avarice created the cost of living in Sag Harbor, which drove up the cost of everything, including butter.

Are we still angry with the 60's counter culture, joe?

Rough ...more
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 9, 10 11:30 AM
42, Still old enough to remember common sense based society.
Oct 10, 10 10:15 PM appended by joe hampton
And for the record I prefer the Ray Charles version to the Kate Smith
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 9, 10 10:15 PM
Bruce, I shop at BJ's when I happen to be in Riverhead too. But you should realize that the distinction you make is between mass merchant's and Mom & Pop's. No independent grocer can even buy butter wholesale for less than $2 a pound. That's why they need to try to compete by selling better quality and specialized product instead, and by offering better service (at least you get a bag in Sag Harbor). But since we've snubbed them anyway, they've been forced to cater only to the wealthy snobs. ...more
By Rounder (1), Southampton on Oct 9, 10 11:22 PM
Is worth it to go to Riverhead....so let go to Off Saks @ Tanger!!!!!!!
By Bel (86), southampton on Oct 7, 10 10:23 PM
If you guys took all your energy that you are using here to disucss this subject and went to a Brick and Mortar store and spent $5, us business owners would be in a much better situation. You people are annoying with all the bickering. Do something positive instead of this crap
By Puros (30), Hampton Bays on Oct 8, 10 1:08 AM
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Why can't we all just get along?? Why can't "comments" be made without personally attacking one another??? Riciculous!! It's not that deep, people!
By unelana (29), North Wales PA on Oct 8, 10 9:58 AM
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People are angry to begin with, and it shows.
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 9, 10 11:37 AM
Not angry just tried of the redistribution of wealth, union payback thing. Stop punishing success never worked never will. We need to go back to "Voodoo economics" No worries 24 more days till the people speak. Sorry Z I still believe in the American dream. I do not want to live some Jacques Chirac Parisian night mare
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 9, 10 10:12 PM
Oh I am sorry.......About 20 years ago, a lovely Italian girl who happened to work along-side me in a Swiss bank, shared her grand-mother's divine Tiramisu recipe with me. My world - and consequently many of my friends and family's worlds - has never been the same since.
Over time however, I've made the recipe my own, changing it slightly to adjust for these modern (and less sugar-enamored) times. There Une is that better
Oct 10, 10 9:25 AM appended by joe hampton
And the fact that Ice agreed with you post is most confusing lol
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 10, 10 9:25 AM
Success is one thing.

Success, oops, I mean excess at the expense of the better part of society is another.

If you like living in a Plutonomy, where ONE percent of the population holds NINIETY percent of the wealth, go for it.

But the majority of us in Gen X who have been burned by your generation's "ideology", will tell you to put a sock in your percieved rhetoric...
Oct 11, 10 12:20 AM appended by Mr. Z
Your "dream", is a NIGHTMARE for people in my generation. Can't own our own homes. Forced to move in with, or take over our parent's homes to stay here with our families. Or, worse yet, forced to throw up your hands, and move away from your family to maybe have something a little better. Again, put a sock in your Irving Berlin BS...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 11, 10 12:20 AM
Ok, ok, joe hampton, "sweet" story. Would love to have the recipe for that Tiramisu - please. Oh, and yes ICE did agree with my comment and I accept it without question. Enjoy your day.
By unelana (29), North Wales PA on Oct 11, 10 9:27 AM
Stop your complaining and get to work my friend, If you have to move to get a better job than move. People are tied of the entitlement rhetoric. Small government is the answer. Charity on a local level when necessary. Guess what not every one gets to be quarterback. Welcome to life! Competition is necessary and if the Chinese do a better job than us than we deserve what we get.You can't make a entitlement society work for ever Z, it will fail. History shows us this time and time again.I don't know ...more
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 11, 10 10:57 AM
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Y'know, you really are a JACKA$$.

I AM the quarterback, you presumptive fool. I am a retail department manager, and my regular salary, along with extracurricular sidework, would be enough most anywhere else. I proved myself worthy of a managerial postion in LESS THAN A YEAR of taking the original job I started with. I have not only come back from being struck by lightning, and being out of work for months, but I struggled with an undiagnosed sleep disorder for well over a decade, up ...more
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 11, 10 12:31 PM
Bravo! Bravo Mr. Z ....Very nice dissertation, I have no problem with you wanting to stay with loved ones, but if you chosse to live here then stop your belly aching, You never stop blaming Wall St and " My so called generation". I am not Gordan Gecko. I don't even own stock. I just work hark and try to make smart decisions, but at the end of the day I am responsible for my success as I was the several failures before I got it right.I was surprised you didn't blame President bush for your sleeping ...more
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 12, 10 12:00 AM
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If you like to call it "belly-aching", that's fine with me. Whatever you choose to call it, I don't see it that way. There are PLENTY of jobs out there. Many require more, or much more than a high school diploma, but they are out there. I scan Careerbuilder, and CNN jobs consistently. There are openings, just not in most people's chosen field. I'm a CDL driver with hazmat, tank, and air brake endorsements. Don't see me driving a truck, DO YOU? The jobs are not available in that field here ...more
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 12, 10 12:17 PM
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By They call me (2693), Delta Quadrant on Oct 12, 10 1:03 PM
Well, now we know you have two I.D.'s, and I couldn't help but return the favor for the belly-aching crack.

The last thing I have to say on the subject, is that if you watch the news, more people feel the way I do, than the way you do about the state of things.

And, last time I checked, getting struck by lightning during the second week of January is really a freak accident, not my fault.

HAVE A NICE DAY!!!!!!!!!
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 12, 10 11:06 PM
I am not hiding that fact about that screen name lol . Now Z... If you look at the latest polls I think you will find that currently your statement does not hold up.The countries fury is currently aimed at radical Democrats. The voters appear to be pragmatic more than ideological. They were prepared to vote for change and more government activism just two years ago. How could they not have expected that in choosing Obama over John McCain?—but now have decided they got more government activism than ...more
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 13, 10 1:54 PM
Citarella's management claimed the store was closing because of the competition from their new store in Bridgehampton according to the notice they placed in the store. Apparently the Watermill or Water Mill, store was on a month to month lease and the landlord found a long term tenant. So that must have accelerated their decision to consolidate.
By V.Tomanoku (744), southampton on Oct 8, 10 12:27 PM
Uh, please! The Citarella machine is just putting spin on the very bad PR they are getting for the Tutto & Water Mill closings and how they treated those employees. I hope this "consolidation" is going to re-set the employee morale at the Bridgehampton shop, because they are also a miserable bunch of people and you can see that in the attitude they project to customers. It simply comes down to Citarella milks the clientele in the summer and they make their money while the sun shines - while the ...more
By SisBoomBonacker (106), Hamptons on Oct 8, 10 1:11 PM
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By the way. I think La parm serves mediocre italian food to anyone who is not italian
By good vs evil (4), southampton on Oct 9, 10 8:50 AM
Best meal I had in a while was at Mohegan sun last month Bobby Flays....Wow good stuff!
By joe hampton (3349), south hampton on Oct 9, 10 10:18 PM
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they are opening a new store in southampton location will be up coming?the old saks building hmmmmmmm
By asurest (117), easthampton on Oct 10, 10 2:50 PM
It would be sadder if a farmer went out of business. You can get another high end tenant or any other tenant for that matter but could you get another farmer to keep land from being developed. Businesses like Saks, Nello's, and Pink Elephant are planned to create an air of snobbery and elitism. It keeps the riff-raff out and only those who have it and those who wannabe in. It is loss of jobs but with a new busier tenant, jobs can be created. I had to laugh, Saks had an ad in today's Sunday newspaper. ...more
By Mets fan (1433), Southampton on Oct 10, 10 5:09 PM
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"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are."

~ The Talmud...
By Mr. Z (11367), North Sea on Oct 11, 10 1:07 AM
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The rumors I have heard are : Ralph Lauren Home is moving into The old town hall. Rite Aid is pulling out, Citerella is taking over the old Gristedes...

Wonder if there's any truth there?
By Draggerman (903), Southampton on Oct 12, 10 7:19 AM
It was about 2 to 3 years ago that Saks closed it's Mens Store on Main Street, rendering the remaining store useless to many of us, and for that matter even before they closed it they stopped selling more moderate price merchandise.
Saks has closed many stores in the past several years, and they probally will close many more.
By EEGO (10), Bridgehampton on Oct 12, 10 1:47 PM
Regardless of whether Saks catered to the wealthy or its closing is a sign of the times, it saddens me a great deal that a store that has been in Southampton for so long is gone. I remember so well as a teen in the 60's wishing I could afford to shop there! So many shops come and go; and with the exception of Herrick's, Hildredth's (and perhaps a few more stores), so little of the past remains.
By Mrs.Sea (267), Sag Harbor on Oct 12, 10 2:49 PM
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How about having a store there that you can enjoy shopping and actually afford it. Your sentiments for these summer people rip-offs is misguided.
By Mets fan (1433), Southampton on Oct 12, 10 6:44 PM
Mets fan: What gives you the right to comment on my sentiments? I am entitlted to feel the way I do. If you have a problem with the summer people, do not involve me.
By Mrs.Sea (267), Sag Harbor on Oct 13, 10 1:57 PM
I do not have a problem with the summer people, I made a great living servicing them and our locals. I'm glad these rip-off stores are going and maybe the locals will get a store that we will actually shop and buy something on Main street. Stores go out of business because they don't meet the needs of the community. Ripping off the summer people for two months and not doing anything the rest of the year doesn't make a good business plan anymore. Hence ,all the old rip-off stores that succeded before ...more
By Mets fan (1433), Southampton on Oct 13, 10 2:27 PM
Here is my idea for what to do with the building:

Install a check cashing store, an OTB, a Chinese take out, a nail salon, a bagel shop, an AT&T store and a real estate agency or two.

There. I fixed it. Something for everyone :)
By elliot (250), sag harbor on Oct 12, 10 4:47 PM
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Southampton is overdeveloped. I'm glad to see any contraction, although I must say this one is sad
By deKooning (97), southampton on Oct 13, 10 9:36 AM