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Dec 1, 2010 8:15 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Despite Objections, Southampton Town Board Appoints OTB Official To Top Management Post

Dec 1, 2010 8:15 PM

The pleas of 13 residents who asked the Southampton Town Board on Tuesday to hold off on a rushed appointment to a town management position fell on deaf ears, as the board’s Republican-Conservative majority refused to reconsider a move to appoint Russell Kratoville as the town’s new management services administrator, a key appointment that will cost the town nearly $150,000.

A motion to table the resolution made by Councilwoman Bridget Fleming was defeated by a 3-2 vote, with Republicans Chris Nuzzi and Nancy Graboski and Conservative Jim Malone aligning against the move over the objections of Supervisor Anna Throne-Holst and Ms. Fleming—a familiar split in recent weeks. The subsequent vote to appoint Mr. Kratoville was the same.

Mr. Kratoville is an Aquebogue resident who was politically active in the Riverhead Town Republican circle and currently serves as the financial director/treasurer of Suffolk County Off-Track Betting.

The group that turned out to protest the appointment was diverse—and composed of representatives from civic groups, former political officials and town residents. They lined up at the podium one by one to verbally bash the three Town Board members, while voicing concerns that the board showed a lack of transparency, failed to screen potential candidates and ignored public input.

Aside from the people who spoke on Tuesday night, a dozen letters were read into the record by Town Clerk Sundy Schermeyer. The letters slammed the Town Board majority for the same reasons outlined by the speakers, with many residents stating that they were embarrassed by the unilateral and political manner in which their town government was behaving.

The impassioned group of concerned citizens mobilized within 24 hours after a press release announcing the appointment was endorsed by the majority and published on the town’s website on Monday afternoon—a day before the actual vote took place.

It didn’t go unnoticed.

“What were you thinking?” Nancy Mullan of Quogue demanded. “Did you think we wouldn’t find out? Did you think we wouldn’t care?”

Eastport resident Joe Mangiaracina said the move “smacks of arrogance.” He called on the Town Board to pull together and halt partisan bickering.

“I watch some of the sessions on TV,” he said. “It’s almost embarrassing, the carping that goes on.”

Southampton resident Neil Tiger, a former Democratic Suffolk County Board of Elections commissioner and a self-described friend of Mr. Kratoville, who worked with him at Suffolk OTB, urged the Town Board to reconsider the appointment and to follow the right procedure and hold off.

“I ask you once again,” he said. “I implore you. Do the right thing.”

Former Democratic Town Councilman Dennis Suskind also paid a visit to Town Hall on Tuesday night to express his disappointment over the move. After the meeting, Mr. Suskind said he was considering running for Town Board in November—something he said that hadn’t crossed his mind until Tuesday night’s events. Three seats will be up for grabs on the board—Supervisor Throne-Holst’s, Ms. Fleming’s and Ms. Graboski’s. Ms. Graboski cannot run again for the Town Board seat because of term limits.

George Lynch, who advised former Democratic Town Councilwoman Sally Pope on her campaign, was angered by the move. At the end of his comments, he angrily slapped the podium and cried, “Enough!”

“We might as well live in a dictatorship,” he said.

The issue of next year’s election was one that surfaced in many of the comments, with residents vowing to remember the appointment of Mr. Kratoville when they cast their votes for Town Board.

When the actual vote on the resolution was cast, Ms. Throne-Holst and Ms. Fleming summarized all of the concerns that were expressed and voted against the resolution. Ms. Fleming said she didn’t understand why the process was rushed and no one else was screened for the position, and she asked what the downside would be to tabling the resolution.

“People are not lukewarm about this,” she said. “They’re outraged.”

Ms. Throne-Holst also said the measure violates a hiring policy that the town has in place for management positions, which, among other things, calls for the creation of a selection committee charged with conducting a search. “It’s a shameful moment for the town at this juncture,” she said.

There was almost no hesitation as the majority approved the resolution—three “yeas” in unison. During the comments, the majority’s members remained stone-faced as shouts of “You should be ashamed of yourselves!” and “November comes fast!” came from the audience.

In defense of the majority, Mr. Nuzzi reiterated his statements from earlier in the week, stressing that he was confident in Mr. Kratoville’s abilities. He also said the appointment was being made now in order to allow Mr. Kratoville to spend time learning the ropes from Town Management Services Administrator Richard Blowes, who is retiring—although he will move to a part-time position in Town Hall, as executive director of the town’s Housing Authority.

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Wow! what a black-eye for Southampton Town. This position, one of the highest paid (non-police) positions, was supposed to be eliminated for cost savings and redundancy and out of NO WHERE three of five Board members secretly appoint someone? When was the position advertised? Who else was interviewed? What about a civil service list? I demand proof that the answers aren't never, no one and exempt.

Tell me how this smells of anything but POLITICAL PATRONAGE. Then Mr. Nuzzi has the nerve ...more
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 29, 10 6:01 PM
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It doesn't need to go through Civil Service as it's not a union position.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Nov 29, 10 6:56 PM
Not all civil service positions are "union" positions. One has nothing to do with the other. This is a civil service position. The title is Town Management Services Administrator. Here is the Suffolk County Job Spec for this title:

TOWN MANAGEMENT SERVICES ADMINISTRATOR 3766

DISTINGUISHING FEATURES OF THE CLASS
An employee in this class coordinates and administers a town's management services. The incumbent oversees electronic data processing ...more
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 1:56 PM
This is politics at its worst and the losers are all of us in the Town. First the position is reinstated and then a political appointment is made. Is anyone else sickened by the behavior of the committee of three, I am especially surprised at Nancy Graboski - I wonder what position has been promised her when she leaves the board.
By sunshine (47), southampton on Nov 29, 10 6:05 PM
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I'm very sickened! Good question about Mrs. Graboski! Would also love to know who Mr. Mr. Kratoville's Rabbi is.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 29, 10 6:10 PM
The Gang of Three strikes again. Is this legal?
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Nov 29, 10 6:31 PM
no. In 2008 the Town Board adopted a resolution requiring search committees for all major administrative positions. This is one, if not the highest administrative position. I'm looking to see if I can find the resolution online.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 29, 10 7:16 PM
Legality is a good question:
We are supposed to be operating under a "Sunshine" law in NY when 3 or more of them, the town board, meet, as they had to do to produce this arrogant political power-play resolution. In my humble opinion they are violating the law and rubbing the whole town's nose in it to boot. Here's the skinny right from the NYS Sunshine law.

"Meeting" is defined to mean "the official convening of a public body for the purpose of conducting public business." As such, ...more
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Nov 29, 10 7:18 PM
ks tmat lake Obamarback Aooriig Amwrica with hll hCs Cza?s? Itthink so. Libsbcracr me p. Tue biTgestbbuttewhipbing n modprn h story and you ill srill nhink itsathe other side thats wrong. Only In America!!!
By double-D (96), southampton on Nov 30, 10 4:32 PM
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By double-D (96), southampton on Nov 30, 10 4:34 PM
I asked if Obama and his czars came about this way. Behind closed doors.Bipassing our political system and making his own. Anna is as Independent as the Bishop signs that were placed at the road side of her house.
By double-D (96), southampton on Nov 30, 10 4:40 PM
Depends if this is an exempt position or not. Where is the salary coming from to pay Mr. Kratoville during the weeks while he transitions with the current incumbent who will still be on payroll through Jan. 1st and then still on the books due to his payout? Here is the resolution for tomorrow. If you agree this is outrageous protest at 6pm, during the public portion of the Town Board meeting! Here is the resolution:

Resolution 2010-1206
Category: Personnel
Sponsors: Graboski, Nuzzi, ...more
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 29, 10 6:45 PM
According to Suffolk County Civil Service, who administers titles for Southampton Town, this is an open competitive title. See above posting for details.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 1:57 PM
I guess the Town likes to "gamble"
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Nov 29, 10 6:55 PM
THis man was Deputy Supervisor for the Town of Riverhead, then holds a position aat OTB with Marietta Seaman....now we get him.
No advertisemet, no interviews, no public input....I am sad for my Town.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 29, 10 8:18 PM
I find it hard to believe that a person living in Southampton did not get this job.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 29, 10 8:36 PM
well when you limit the candidates to no one who would know the position was publicly available, to only those who have family who have lived on the East End since the 1600's, and to only those who have been loyal Republican soldiers and are willing to be manipulated by sour grapes and blind partisan control by a small unrepresentative group, the odds get slim for a Southampton Town resident.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 1:03 AM
So, if you are so upset abut it show up tomorrow night at 6:00 pm and let them know what you think. We do not exist in a vacuum. Make yourself heard or keep quiet and accept what they've got in plan for you. These forums are good for those who need to express something - somehow but the real power you have is when you show up in person to let yourself be heard. DO IT!!
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Nov 29, 10 8:51 PM
funny part is that NY OTB is the only bookie in the world that loses money. Where are all the tea baggers who want less government?
By littleplains (305), olde england on Nov 29, 10 10:03 PM
Wrong decision.

Wrong position.

Wrong method.

Wrong person.

Wrong salary.

Wrong time.

Politics at its slimiest.

I defy anyone to justify this lunacy.
By VOS (1232), WHB on Nov 30, 10 1:10 AM
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By VOS (1232), WHB on Nov 30, 10 1:11 AM
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By VOS (1232), WHB on Nov 30, 10 1:15 AM
This is Chris Nuzzi at his worst-just a bad guy.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 30, 10 6:07 AM
When Garbowskis seat comes up its time to break the majority and vote in an independant or democrat. This postion should have been advertised and not politically appointed. OTB and SCWA are homes for wayward politicians and the cycle needs to stop.
By North Sea Citizen (564), North Sea on Nov 30, 10 6:15 AM
Once again political horse hockey at its finest. Do we not recall the walk on resolutions that the power of three used to fill the vacant appointed board positions earlier this year, the budget last minute resolutions, now this backdoor appointment.
Lets get real here, is there another board room we don't know about, something fishy is going on in town hall and it stinks.
By Brad (28), Northampton on Nov 30, 10 7:50 AM
Hmmm....Good question. Where does the real town board meet? You know, the council of three.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 30, 10 8:16 AM
you mean the group of three who continue to violate NYS Sunshine law?
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 1:59 PM
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Here is what the agency that grants certification for "public finance officer" has to say about their own certification. "The Certified Public Finance Officers Program (Certification Program) of the Government Finance Officers Association of the United States and Canada (GFOA) is a broad educational self-study program
While GFOA certifies that an individual who passes one or more of GFOA’s certification examinations demonstrates certain competencies, GFOA withholds an opinion as to ...more
By Viewpoint (26), Southampton on Nov 30, 10 8:24 AM
Why this particular Republican? What has he done or is expected to do for the ST GOP?
By highhatsize (4186), East Quogue on Nov 30, 10 10:08 AM
You mean what has he don-ATED
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 12:26 PM
What have we become a Monarchy????????????????? One Person Rule for some of the people???? Why the secret??????????????? why not consult our elected supervisor?????????????????? What the heck is going on???????????????????????????????????? Let alone is the job needed???????????????????????????????????

I think moving forward we should make all future governmen employee not have a pension...and not have medical...let them get a taste of realtiy...

This is government running amuck!
By Quogonian (14), Quogue on Nov 30, 10 11:20 AM
I think you meant an Oligarchy...The last sentence should it read: "This is a government run by schmucks. "...?
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Nov 30, 10 11:42 AM
You really think the world would be a better place by taking a pension and medical benefits (that Southampton Town employees pay a portion of) away from someone making $35,000/year?

Maybe pensions and medical benefits could/should be reduced for those people in *political appointments*, but civil servants make financial sacrifices and work for their town/count/state/country to serve their fellow citizens, not line their pockets.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 12:29 PM
I know. Isn't Obama a handful?
By double-D (96), southampton on Nov 30, 10 4:43 PM
Disgustingly disturbing. Was the job opening posted? Was there an open and transparent interview process? We cannot allow our local government to be hijacked.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Nov 30, 10 11:20 AM
Quack! Watch your back Anna. This duck thinks there is something very fishy about someone coming in from the OTB. Could this placement have something to do with managing future casinos down the road?
By SisBoomBonacker (106), Hamptons on Nov 30, 10 11:21 AM
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Good decision or bad decision, I don't know. What I do know is it appears that the Board did not do their due diligence. I cannot believe that they did not anticipate the "fallout" from their actions. This is why the public has such a negative opinion of politicians. This looks bad!! This is an important decision, why not take the time to interview as many qualified (regardless of party affiliation) candidates as possible before deciding.
By hurricane24 (5), westhampton on Nov 30, 10 11:30 AM
Ok, so we have heard from 22 people here who express anger, outrage, disappointment, etc. Guess what?? Nuzzi, Graboski and Malone don't care what the comments on this board say! They just keep on doing as they please because nobody gets in their way. GO TO TOWN HALL TONIGHT AND LET THEM KNOW WE ARE NOT THE FOOLS THEY TAKE US FOR!!!
That's 22 people they have to listen to, answer to. This "hiring" is illegal at best, but who is going to challenge it? The only answer is to prevent it from happening ...more
By jumbomama (1), southampton on Nov 30, 10 12:11 PM
We all want what is best for our Town, so we thought! How foolish to think that the last minute, secretive back room politics didn't exist. This type of activity encourages VERY EXPENSIVE, poor government not for the people, or by the people. This is truly shameful. The gang of three should be embarrassed by this in your face maneuvering. This issue will remain an issue for all to see. Not a smart move.
By Lorraine (1), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 12:23 PM
The Republicans are running a "government within a government"...why did we bother to vote for a Supervisor last year? It's high time that Town residents give this board an earful...we want leadership to come from our elected leader. If they can't manage to work with her, then get off the board and we'll put someone there who can.
By Dodger (161), Southampton Village on Nov 30, 10 12:28 PM
Boy does this look bad for the town, it makes you think ,what kind of town do we live, where are the honest polition Thisa really stinks and it is going to get worst
By john o (34), southampton on Nov 30, 10 1:06 PM
This looks really bad...even the usual crowd of apologists is silent.
By VOS (1232), WHB on Nov 30, 10 1:25 PM
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No one mentions the 40k plus in benefits, what are these benefits and how does anyone who comes from OTB, an organization that has lost money for years, get a job managing money. He is unqualified just because of that.
By maxwell (169), speonk on Nov 30, 10 1:38 PM
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ALL OF YOU WHO ARE UPSET BY THIS SHOULD COME TO THE TOWN BOARD MEETING TONIGHT, AT 6:00 PM, TO MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD. JOIN YOUR NEIGHBORS IN TELLING THESE FOLKS WHAT'S WHAT.
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Nov 30, 10 4:54 PM
We all know working for OTB is a political plumb!! now that the state may close all OTB's he need a job that is secure. He couldn't do any worse a job then Mr. Blowes. Ordering 10 extra unneeded relocatebles for the courts in Hampton Bays,black topping the parking lot there without the cesspools being inspected,. They had to be dug up.Going way over budget on the Flanders Senior center and not putting a kitchen in. No education, yet a big salary. Talk about being incompetent!! Now he gets a retirement ...more
By bayview (158), Southampton on Nov 30, 10 5:39 PM
We all know working for OTB is a political plumb!! now that the state may close all OTB's he need a job that is secure. He couldn't do any worse a job then Mr. Blowes. Ordering 10 extra unneeded relocatebles for the courts in Hampton Bays,black topping the parking lot there without the cesspools being inspected,. They had to be dug up.Going way over budget on the Flanders Senior center and not putting a kitchen in. No education, yet a big salary. Talk about being incompetent!! Now he gets a retirement ...more
By bayview (158), Southampton on Nov 30, 10 5:39 PM
This is an outrage! Transparency my@#$@#^%&*&. Back door dealings of the worst kind.
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Nov 30, 10 8:06 PM
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Nancy Graboski turned out to be a big let down, sorry I had voted for her-time for her to go sit on her farm land-she's a disgrace.
By nurse (53), sag harbor on Nov 30, 10 8:53 PM
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I guess since Graboski is termed out she figures she doesn't need to listen to the public. Very disappointing to see someone who usually stood for whats right and best for the town turn to join in the back room antics.
By ridiculous (214), hampton bays on Dec 2, 10 7:43 PM
II watched the TB Meeting on Channel 22. It was so obvious that these speakers were democrats invited by Anna and Bridget. There were democrats who ran for elected office and lost, an ex town leader, of course Dennis Suskind and a few democrat tax payer/friends of ATH invited to make it appear real . Dennis was part of the majority when the town got into this financial mess. He also made plenty of money off this town developing property, looking for favors from cronies on the ZBA and planning board. ...more
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Nov 30, 10 10:24 PM
That's just nasty and no Anna didn't write or set up any of the people that sent in letters or spoke. Please don't spew hate and make up things as facts when they aren't at all true. Also, are you saying that democrats can't be tax payers and therefore don't have the right to protest when procedures and laws are violated? Democrats speaking out at Town Board meetings aren't real?
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Nov 30, 10 10:50 PM
Forget what you think of Anna and her defenders - do you support the board secretly hiring an employee for a position that had been eliminated without taking applications or holding an open and transparent interview process?
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Dec 1, 10 9:32 AM
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Good old reliable reg rep -- so fixated on ATH that she's willing to be the only poster here besides BobbyH defending the Gang of Three. (Actually, neither of them defends the Gang; they're just beating up on Anna.) If Melville were still around, reg rep, he'd star you in his next novel.
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 1, 10 11:29 AM
Nasty? You don't know nasty until you witness just how nasty Ms. Anna is.
BTW how would you know what Anna wrote or did not write? Unless of course you were Anna herself.
Also, I did not say that democrats cannot be tax payers and therefore don't have the right to protest.
Read the comments again.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 1, 10 7:41 PM
Hey Reg Rep,

Answer DagDavid's question. Regardless of WHO was appointed or WHERE they were from or WHO put the resolution on, you really would blindly defend tihs type of action? I don't care of it was Bridget putting up her sister, or Anna her Best Friend or if Nuzzi was putting up my own Mother, it's ridiculous. There was no reason to not at the very least Table it
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 10:38 AM
Nature
Agreed they (all 5) are a disgrace. We need a whole new TB.
I never said I defended them.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 11:46 AM
Why all 5? Why not just the 3 who ran this scam?
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 2, 10 2:37 PM
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By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 9:25 PM
You make ATH out to be Sarah Palin... as for the alleged "affair" between her and.. (Nuzzi?) I would expect a little more collusion when it came to votes AND if it was so reprehensible (ethically) to you, why don't you hand over some investigative documents (photos?) to the Press/Newsday and we can watch the bricks fall where they may. Otherwise, it's hearsay for the sake of hearsay.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 9:30 PM
Can't be sure, but from Nature's comment and the deletion opf reg rep's post right above, it looks like reg rep lost it and crossed the line into inappropriate (and unproven) allegations. Did we forget to take our meds today, reg rep?
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 3, 10 10:12 AM
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By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 3, 10 8:50 PM
Looks like she did it again.
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 5, 10 7:10 PM
Perhaps I’m missing something, but because my only “source” comes from the newspaper and the Town websites, maybe I’m looking at this too “black and white.” Doesn’t anyone else notice the rank hypocrisy on the part of Anna Throne-Holst?

Just so we have it straight:

1) The supervisor first tries to ABOLISH this position, votes against it being reinstated, and then, when she loses, has the nerve to say she wasn’t consulted as to who ...more
By BobbyH (44), Southampton/NYC on Nov 30, 10 11:54 PM
Whoever you are you obviously don't know what you are talking about. Your comments simply mimic those of gang leader Nuzzi. It's always someone else who started this mess. Maybe you are Mr. Nuzzi. Ah, but wait a minute, wasn't Mr. Nuzzi there when all this back-room stuff started? And he's still there. Lets see; how do we connect the dots. . . . .
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Dec 1, 10 10:40 AM
BobbyH
You are right on with your comments. Ms. Anna can do anything she wants and is the first to criticize everyone else.
Anna could not wait to get rid of Blowes (not that he was a bargain) she didn't even tell him about the press release that he was leaving.
When you get to know her well she is a phoney like no other.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 1, 10 8:23 PM
Have you ever met a politician who wasn't a phony? ATH is no saint, but Nuzzi's the worst of the bunch...
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 10:40 AM
This is government corruption at it's worst! The majority conspired to exclude the minority from the decision making process. They took the duties of the Town Supervisor from her against her will. They violated civil service law by by appointing someone to a civil service position without following any of the rules requiring competition and fitness in public employment.

The Town Supervisor and minority board member have an obligation to the the community to force the re-establishment ...more
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 1, 10 2:10 AM
The people have spoken and are outraged. Will the Political Pigs ever stop gorging themselves off the taxpayers dollars. Never, they feel "entitled". The State, County, and Town governments are full of this type of patronage. Voting won't stop it, but we can make sure they don't have a life-long career if we vote them out every election.
By uncleronk (136), southold on Dec 1, 10 9:41 AM
The Republican-Conservative majority has really over-reached this time. This caper is so over the top, that if the Dems can make sure folks remember it next November, they'll be home free.
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 1, 10 11:31 AM
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A disgusting show of arrogance which is fully in keeping with the national republican party's disregard for the general public.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Dec 1, 10 3:15 PM
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Remove PostAllen Lawrence Fein
Southampton Town Republicans: What's with the behavior of your "gang of three"? They effeciently blew much of that goodwill feeling that they worked so hard to earn from voters. Looks like an inside patronage job shoved down taxpayer throats. Such an important job, huge pay and benefits, and no open application/vetting process. Even if the new man may be very qualified, what a PR fiasco. Waiting for clarity.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 1, 10 4:57 PM
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I even voted for one of you. Please don't make me regret it.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 1, 10 4:58 PM
Whats the deal with Blowes retiring...but taking a part time position within Town Hall? Not my idea of the word RETIRE. Hope he's entering his part time job with zero credits from his old one.
By c'mon now (46), southampton on Dec 1, 10 5:44 PM
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I saw the list of typical work activities for the position of town management administrator, and I have to ask whos been doing all these duties in the past? Why cant they continue to do it? Will the people who carried out these duties before be terminated? And how many other people will we have to hire to assist this position?
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Dec 1, 10 5:50 PM
in the budget the supervisor submitted the people actually performing the duties - not supervising them - were to be reassigned to other areas in order to eliminate the redundant supervision since the government is too small to justify the position. In the majority's amendments they restored the entire department and took some more functions away from the comptroller's office.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 6:09 PM
Good Question, Golden Boy.
This is a discrace.....They (gang of three) are holding meetings away from the public and making policy for the people of the town in the process.
We need to bring true democracy back to Southampton town.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 1, 10 9:49 PM
As James Thurber (not Casey Stengel) famously said "You could look it up".

On November 14, 2000, the SH Town Board passed resolution #1307 "Hiring Policy for Management and Professional Positions". It was passed unanimously. The gang of three, lead by Boss Nuzzi, are most certainly aware of this and most certainly have committed a violation, in fact, of knowingly disobeying what is town law. But what do they care? Who among us is going to hold their feet to the fire and seek prosecution? ...more
By EastEndHomie (27), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 12:00 AM
OMG an OTB official?
The triad of REPUBLICAN "no new taxes?" creeps who put him in place need a big kick in the shorts.
OTB-- of all patronage jobs.
The LOT of them should be escorted out of office. I'm appalled.
Way to screw the town, kids.
By Jean (79), whb on Dec 2, 10 12:36 AM
I am reminded of the comment of one judge busted in the Operation Greylord sting in Chicago in the '80s wherein 17 judges and various others were convicted of fixing trials. "I like guys who take dough.", he said, "You know where they stand."

In these changing times and dire economic circumstances, it's nice to see that the ST GOP preserves tradition in handing out patronage.

Which reminds me of another quote, this from Cornelius Vanderbilt, "What do I care about law, ain't I ...more
Dec 2, 10 12:52 AM appended by highhatsize
Sorry. Read "Malone" for "Miller"
By highhatsize (4186), East Quogue on Dec 2, 10 12:52 AM
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Miller???? It's Jim Malone. He was such a hard running candidate, attending community events everywhere. Seems so out of character that he would act like this now. Bizarre. Still awaiting clarity.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 8:22 AM
You were duped.
By dagdavid (646), southampton on Dec 2, 10 11:38 AM
OTB and SCWA two prime patronage dumping grounds.
By uncleronk (136), southold on Dec 2, 10 8:37 AM
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Do we really have to wait till election day? What is the procedure for removing a dishonest (law breaking) elected official in Southampton Town? We really shouldn't allow this situation to continue till election day. They are only town board members. Why should they be exempt form the laws/rules they created?
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 9:01 AM
... I liked the town board better a few years back when Graboski and Nuzzi sat there and did not say anything, because they did not know anything, The only difference between then and now is that now they are talking.
By William Rodney (559), southampton on Dec 2, 10 9:59 AM
Note the timing of this hiring (during a freeze). OTB is closing and this guy is out of a job. Obviously the word came from the GOP for Southampton to absorb yet another one of their favorites -- at taxpayer expense. No one can ever say that they don't take care of their own. We also got Benincasa fin this way, and a few other patronistas.
By Phanex (83), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 1:11 PM
Right on, Phanex. That's what's going on here, I think. I don't pretend to know about Mr. Benincasa's case, but this one looks like orders from on high to save one of the Republican faithful. It's sort of like Tony Soprano getting a soldier a job in a strip club.
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 2, 10 2:45 PM
He's probably even taking a salary cut. According to seethroughny.com in 2008 he earned $102,375. So with COLAs and such since then he is probably currently making more thatn $107,000.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 6:01 PM
One republican owed the party something and this was the payoff ,not to hard to understand,it just stinks to the high heavens. and we the taxpayers half to pay.
By DJ9222 (85), southampton on Dec 2, 10 3:05 PM
Since I was on seethroughny.org I looked up who earns $107,000 and up in Southampton Town wages. 69 people do. Blowes makes $117,000 so at least they downsized the salary a bit for this new person. However, of the 69, the majority are police. Only 7 of the 69 are civilian employees and only 4 make more than what the new person will make. The 7 are Lance Aldrich, Blowes, Ed Deyermond, Allyn Jackson, Bill Jones, Cheryl Kraft and Jefferson Murphree.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 6:17 PM
Ed Deyermond and Allyn Jackson retired, and from the info on the towns web they will be working p/t for $30,000 a year.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 8:40 PM
yes the info is a year old but what's your point? Blowes will also get a nice part-time job. Don't you have a problem with 3 senior employees taking their pension and then a part-time job with the same employer?
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 13, 10 4:02 PM
Id like to know who knows this guy and who got him in. Why wasnt anyone else interviewed for the position. I dont agree with the hiring but at least interview more candidates, dont take us for total buffoons.
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Dec 2, 10 6:26 PM
Golden Boy
Put your thinking cap on. Who had a high level job with OTB that is also connected with the Town of SH and the GOP.
Come on think.
By reg rep (408), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 8:50 PM
The name of MARIETTA SEAMAN comes to mind.
By clam pie (161), Westhampton on Dec 3, 10 10:16 AM
I just visited the Southampton Town webpage and discovered the Ethics Board is one of the only boards with no regularly scheduled meetings or contact information provided. What a surprise!
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 6:38 PM
Well, I can't comment on the no contact information, but the no regularly scheduled meeting makes sense. They handle ethics issues as they come in.. so there may be stretches of time when there are none, and there are times when they may have a serious issue they need to deal with immediately.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 8:31 PM
Like now?

When town board members violate their own rules, and civil service regulations who holds them accountable? In December they don't care about re-election, so being scolded by the community doesn't bother them much.
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 9:43 PM
The Ethics Board of southampton Town is an advisory board to the Town Board. They can only make suggestions to the town board and it is up to the board to take action on the ethics violation.

Hmmmmmm..........like that would ever happen!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 9:39 PM
I echo this and will add that someone has to bring up the allegations so... if no one says anything, the Ethics Board can't just bring charges against someone. It's not unheard of for a Councilperson to bring one against another board member (it happened recently in Brookhaven) but the ethics board is required to keep HUSH HUSH. So... even if ATH brought allegations against "the three kings", no one would know about it until AFTER and a decision was made. Say what you will, but the Ethics Board ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Dec 2, 10 10:38 PM
Yes....however.....after the ethics board makes a decision they cannot do anything with that decision except bring it to the town board and the board decide on an appropriate action.
That is a structural problem in this situation.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 2, 10 11:09 PM
First, any individual can request the Ethics Board review a matter. If they make a recommendation that gives them standing to refer the matter to the Attorney General for an opinion which only a municipal body can request, such as the Ethics Board, which acts under municipal authority.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 1:48 PM
On a positive note, benevolent dictatorship is particularly direct and efficient. There will be ample time before the next election for voters to decide if these three are running our town well or not.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 3, 10 12:14 AM
Unless they decide to extend their terms of office. Running for re-election is an unwanted inconvenience to most dictators.
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 10:08 PM
The thing that bothers me is that they seized powers beyond those of the offices they were elected to. No one asked the voters if they wanted to make the office of Town Supervisor only ceremonial in nature. It seems to me that these three republican thugs hired this guy from OTB to help them run town government at their direction from behind closed doors. This is a complete breakdown of a government based on democracy.
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 5:42 AM
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There was a time when you and your family had to be registered as a Republican if you wanted a job or promotion with Southampton Town government. I wonder if it is that way again?
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 6:15 AM
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Right you are ... the words are "Just go down and sign up" ... then you're taken care of.
By fix-it-now (216), sag harbor on Dec 3, 10 8:49 AM
To the voters of Southampton-you elected Chris Nuzzi. You got what you deserved.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Dec 3, 10 11:05 AM
We thought he would be one vote on a five member town board. Who would have thought they would dismiss the minority members and proclaim themselves a dictatorship?
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 9:37 PM
Thats right we did
By joe hampton (3429), south hampton on Dec 4, 10 6:10 PM
I always wondered why there was a need for five town board members when three imbeciles will suffice...Get rid of two board member positions and use the money for something else... Leaf pick up maybe.
By V.Tomanoku (788), southampton on Dec 3, 10 3:01 PM
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Why three imbeciles when one could decide even quicker. Even more and faster Leaf pick up. Unless the dictator doesn't care about your leaves.
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 9:52 PM
We need five Board Members, and we need five board members who operate in the sunshine. (In public)
God knows who is pulling the strings here.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 3, 10 5:10 PM
With all the current unemployed experienced people in our community, I hope that our three benevolent dictators chose the best person for such a key position. Since this all occured behind closed doors, we humble voters will never know. On the other hand, when leaders really know what is best for their citizens, much time is saved when no public call for applications is advertised, people don't have to sit patiently through hours of vetting hearings, and the public is spared informative debate. ...more
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 3, 10 5:51 PM
Do you really believe what you just wrote, or is it sarcasm? Yes, if we are lucky, the benevolent dictators will love and take good care of us.
By METCOMedia (116), Hampton Bays on Dec 3, 10 9:23 PM
So far...not so good.
By VOS (1232), WHB on Dec 4, 10 4:34 PM
Me, sarcastic?
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 3, 10 10:02 PM
And now the shouting subsides......I hope that the people remember who is really running the town.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 5, 10 7:26 AM
There is a special "ANTI-BULLYING" performance at the Westhampton Beach Performing Arts Center tomorrow (Monday December 6th) at 10:00 AM and 12;30 PM. I'm willing to pay for any and all Southampton Town Board members (especially the "Gang of Three") who wants to (or should) attend. Please pass the word to them if you can.
By foodie (74), Remsenburg on Dec 5, 10 2:02 PM
I don't know about that -- they might take it as a learning opportunity. Don't forget the story about the kid who went to confession and said he'd taken liberties with a girl in the parish. The priest named four different young women, asking in each instance if it had been that one. The kid didn't squeal, and when he came out and his friend asked him what he got, the kid replied, "some prayers to say and four good leads."
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 5, 10 7:17 PM
HaHa thats great
By GoldenBoy (350), EastEnd on Dec 5, 10 7:40 PM
Time to vote for change. When it comes time to vote, be sure to support the condidate that will put the people and not the party first.
By North Sea Citizen (564), North Sea on Dec 6, 10 6:17 AM
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Elections have consequences. We are screwed with the Chump in Chief in Washington and the Three Stooges in Town Hall.
By bigfresh (4595), north sea on Dec 6, 10 7:05 AM
THE WHOLE SOUTHAMPTON TOWN GOVERNMENT IS AN EMBARASSMENT AND SHOULD BE REPLACED WITH A BETTER SYSTEM
By jose1 (28), southampton on Dec 6, 10 3:52 PM
If things don't work out, I will feel quite betrayed by Jim Malone and will get active in all efforts to remove him from elected office. However, I am optimistic that the town will ultimately be very well served by the new person hired. Nevertheless, in our democracy, voters expect different behavior by our Council. This issue should not just go away. The ends don't justify the means.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 6, 10 5:47 PM
Another thought: the Council violated hiring regulations established by the town, according to some. What exactly do our by-laws dictate? Perhaps such regulations are not laws, but recommended guidelines. If there really are laws that have been circumvented by our council, then just find a judge to put a temporary injunction to that odious council resolution where the fellow was hired, and then go back to square one and follow our hiring regulations to be fair to other qualified candidates.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 6, 10 5:59 PM
Good Idea.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Dec 6, 10 9:12 PM
Whether the Ethics Board can or will do anything about this fiasco is not all-important. Those of us who are outraged should write letters to them demanding an inquiry.
At least later the gang of three won't be able to say no one was upset enough to report them.
Also, does anyone know if there State and Fedl laws about this kind of behavior? Can someone find out to what government agencies we can complain and ask for a serious investigation. Maybe these thugs will be censured, impeached, ...more
By baywoman (165), southampton on Dec 6, 10 9:13 PM
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I will contact Town Hall, and get those actual "laws" on town hiring, if indeed they even exist. It is quite usual for politicians to appoint qualified party-faithful people from their own team. Most like-minded party members would go along with this kind of politics, anyway. Recall that the three leaders behind this whole mess sat "stone-faced" at the meeting last week when they were publicly villified speaker after speaker, so an angry letter campaign does not excite me. These are three intelligent ...more
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 6, 10 9:55 PM
My understanding is that the policy, adopted by resolution in 2000, became procedure - not law - requiring a search committee and the like. Look beyond the Town to New York State law that governs all political subdivisions, of which the Town is one. Also look at Federal equal employment opportunity laws and finally Suffolk County Civil Service laws. Let us know what you find.....
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 6, 10 10:38 PM
This from the article: " Ms. Throne-Holst also said the measure violates a hiring policy that the town has in place for management positions, which, among other things, calls for the creation of a selection committee charged with conducting a search. Sounds like a rather toothless policy! May as well scrap it.
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 7, 10 12:42 AM
It's been six days now and I am only just now beginning to recover from my shock at the unethical behavior of the ST Council Republicans. Especially egregious is the collusion of Honest James Wilson Malone, who chose to forgo a salary of over $100K as Suffolk County Deputy Clerk in order to be elected to the Town Council. Who would expect such base behavior from one so noble? (Press, June 17, 2009)

Who did replace Jim as the Senior Deputy Clerk and Chief Fiscal Director for Suffolk County ...more
By highhatsize (4186), East Quogue on Dec 7, 10 10:35 AM
Gee, highhat, I don't know. Do you think maybe he never resigned?
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Dec 7, 10 9:40 PM
What! Is there no limit to Republican trickery and high-handedness?
By highhatsize (4186), East Quogue on Dec 8, 10 10:59 AM
I received the full resolution about "Hiring Policy" #1307, November 14, 2000. It applies to management and professional positions that are classified by Civil Service as exempt, competitive and non-competitive. Being a humble and simple physician, I would have liked to see an elaboration of what positions this applies to, and less of the legal BS. Appreciating the the spirit and intent of this hiring policy, and convinced that the three council people were in violation of this intelligent hiring ...more
By allenfein (66), Southampton on Dec 7, 10 8:46 PM
The position is a civil service position. I didn't see any reference on the County site that says it is exempt. Bottom line, they either violated their own hiring policy, OR, worse, violated civil service law. Either way there is an official complaint to be made and followed-up on.
By sirpoochala (78), Hampton Bays on Dec 13, 10 4:06 PM
Question: Where are our friends from the Tea Party in all this? They are the self-declared prime guardians of the public purse, the relentless scourges of taxes and government spending. So here's a whole town department that the Supervisor determines is redundant and can be eliminated, which she does, wiping out all that expense, including its $150,000-a-year head man. But then, three Town Board members, with little or no explanation, restore that unnecessary department and hire a new chief ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 7, 10 9:36 PM
They never criticized Bush for bailout procedures, but tear apart Obama for it.

Pot, and the kettle, eh?

Why should this be any different? The Tea Party, criticize Republicans? The H**L you say!!!
By Mr. Z (11698), North Sea on Dec 11, 10 1:57 PM
They did it a little late in the game, for my tastes. Look like saving face when they did.

There have been well over half a dozen bailouts in the last 15 years, the largest being TARP.
Dec 11, 10 11:32 PM appended by Mr. Z
Maybe if more money was set aside as working capital, as well as "rainy day" funds, and less on ridiculous salaries, jets, cars, perks, lavish homes, and all the other avaristic B.S. these idiots entitle themselves to, they could bail THEMSELVES out. But they don't. They squander capital on themselves, and look to us to save them from their own failure, and repeat the same behavior. Anyone else have a problem with that?
By Mr. Z (11698), North Sea on Dec 11, 10 11:32 PM
Lather, rinse, repeat...
By Mr. Z (11698), North Sea on Dec 11, 10 11:37 PM
Sorry for the delay in responding -- had to take my pills after reading Captn America's effrontery: "All appearances indicate the issue is handily under control and nothing more is required to be said." Several images come to mind: The party line of the People's Republic of China after the Tianamen Square disturbance. The emperor walking naked through the streets. An ostrich with its head in the sand. A man sitting on a pile of fresh manure on a hot sunny day, remarking how lovely the air ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 12, 10 3:12 PM
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By BigOne (22), Hampton Bays on Dec 8, 10 8:24 PM
There is only one rule or policy-"majority rules."
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Dec 10, 10 3:31 PM
About my above comment of Dec. 7 at 9:36 PM, which is already a couple of days old with no takers (other than the 6 who liked it -- thanks, folks), maybe the reason no Tea Party people are jumping on this is because there are no Tea Party people around here. That's been suggested to me as a possibility, and it could be so, but still, we all know there are a whole lot of fiscal conservatives posting on this site. Just look at the comments under any of the several pieces about the Bishop-Altschuler ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 11, 10 12:49 PM
Sorry - above post left unfinished. Continuing -- So: WHERE ARE ALL THE FISCAL CONSERVATIVES IN THIS?? Let's hear from you folks. Surely you're not holding your peace because this scam is the work of two Republicans and a Conservative? You wouldn't do that, right? Come on, talk.
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 11, 10 12:52 PM
This is skullduggery at it's finest, and I was, shall we say, less than thrilled upon learning about it. I refrained from comment, however unusual that may seem.

It's the same "special interest" policy that seems to consistently be status quo.
Dec 11, 10 1:59 PM appended by Mr. Z
Ahem: "Mr. Kratoville has contributed more than $5,000 to Republican committees and candidates in Suffolk County and Riverhead Town since 2000, according to New York State Board of Elections campaign financial disclosure reports. He was appointed to the position of deputy town supervisor in Riverhead Town in 1996 under Republican Town Supervisor Jim Stark. Mr. Kratoville was appointed the head of the recreation department in 1996, where he also oversaw the senior services department."
By Mr. Z (11698), North Sea on Dec 11, 10 1:59 PM
With respect -- which is sincere and based on long observation of your posts -- I believe that refraining from comment is the worst thing one can do right now. This is one of the most brazen instances ever of rank patronage and disdain for the rules in Southampton politics. The saying goes something like, "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." I intend to comment on this until people are sick of hearing it, and I hope many others do likewise. We have ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1967), Quiogue on Dec 11, 10 4:21 PM
Actually, I simply wanted to choose my words carefully.

BUT, you are absolutely correct.
By Mr. Z (11698), North Sea on Dec 11, 10 11:30 PM