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Dec 28, 2012 4:52 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Public Hearing Set To Discuss Plan For Inpatient Facility On Quiogue

Jan 1, 2013 5:57 PM

East End Hospice is pushing forward with plans to build an eight-room inpatient facility on land it owns on Quiogue, though it could still be months before the organization receives the final green light from Southampton Town.

The Southampton Town Planning Board deemed the site plan application for the new facility complete at its meeting on December 20 and scheduled a public hearing, during which community members are invited to share their thoughts or concerns, for Thursday, January 24, as the next step in the process. After the hearing, the board will accept written comments from the public for a period, and will then consider making changes to the site plan based on the feedback.

Kerri Meyer, the senior clerk of the planning department, said the finalization of the site plan could still take several months, or even up to a year, if the board suggests changes that require East End Hospice to update and resubmit the document.

Once it breaks ground, the organization anticipates construction to take between 12 and 16 months.

East End Hospice provides home health care for the terminally ill and bereavement counseling for families who have lost loved ones. The inpatient facility would provide patients who cannot stay at home at the end of their lives with the care and services they require around the clock, Priscilla Ruffin, the organization’s CEO and president, said.

The plans call for an 11,951-square-foot facility with eight patient rooms, a cafeteria, bathrooms and an office, as well as 15 parking spaces. The facility will be built on 4.8 acres at the corner of Meeting House Road and Hampton Street, and bordering Aspatuck Creek.

But Ms. Ruffin explained in an interview last week that more than half of that property, including land along the water, will be preserved under a conservation easement. The entire property was donated to East End Hospice in the will of Elmo Monfrede, who was a good friend of the founders of the organization, Ms. Ruffin said.

There is an existing single-family home on the property, which will remain on a subdivided 27,500-square-foot lot. An old antiques store that also sits on the parcel and has been overgrown with vegetation will be demolished during the building process, according to the site plan.

“It really is going to be a beautiful piece of property,” Ms. Ruffin said. “This is sorely needed by the community. It’s going to meet an incredible need for the people of the East End.”

Quiogue residents whose homes border the property have expressed concern that the lights and traffic at the facility will disturb an otherwise quiet neighborhood. Ms. Ruffin said the architect in charge of the building plans, Roger Ferris, has taken care to minimize the impact on the surrounding environment. She also said Southampton Town has strong ordinances in place to reduce light and sound pollution, and added that the organization will do “whatever it can to be a good neighbor.”

“We see things changing and people need more and more help, and this is going to provide them with that help,” she said.

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Here's one resident fronting on Aspatuck Creek who's all for the project. The full review process should take place, with special emphasis on protecting the creek's waters and habitat, but I'm confident Hospice will prove to be as good a neighbor as could be desired. I've lived on the creek for a long while and known Hospice for a long while, and am sure they'll get along just fine.
By Turkey Bridge (1808), Quiogue on Jan 1, 13 11:18 AM
Gee Wiz how come The new Section eight Hilton in Hampton bays did not get this kind of review process.

Anna? Care to comment? Tim Maybe You? Hello anyone there?

though it could still be months before the organization receives the final green light from Southampton Town.

The Southampton Town Planning Board deemed the site plan application for the new facility complete at its meeting on December 20 and scheduled a public hearing, during which community members are invited ...more
By 27dan (2310), Southampton on Jan 1, 13 12:19 PM
dan, you said: Gee Wiz how come The new Section eight Hilton in Hampton bays did not get this kind of review process.

Are you referring to the motel now being used as a shelter by the County? The reason it didn't get review was because it didn't need it... there was no change in use. Nice try though at making Anna look bad (who, btw for what it's worth has adamantly opposed its existence going as far as to insinuate that everyone living there is a bad person and does not belong in her ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 1, 13 12:33 PM
Someone has to do more, you don't have to live here. They have DESTROYED this water front family values neighborhood. Come look at it ! Its a disgrace.
It looks like a ghetto.
People walking around talking to themselves,large groups of loitering disheveled looking slobs, garbage in the street. baggy pants gangster looks as they skulk down the road at all hours. Their fouls mouths yelling at there children and who ever they are "talking" to on there cell phones as the get out of taxi's ...more
By 27dan (2310), Southampton on Jan 2, 13 9:22 AM
dan-the-man - did you NOT see this place before the County took it over? It was just as bad... where's your proof that the bankrobber had been there a week before? I never saw it reported... the police have never said that there is more crime or more calls to that place since it's been changed over.

You act like before this change occured it was a wonderful motel for families to come vacation during the summers... the clientele is basically exactly the same - and you really show your ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 2, 13 9:50 AM
Thats right Gnat to many people with no personal responsibility in a store that was not meant for them. Don't like that factoid, TFB. You want me to have more compassion? I give more than most every Sunday pal. At least that money is spent responsibly.
Like I asked you before
Why should any neighborhood hood have to absorb this quantity of section eight no responsibility welfare residents.
Lets put one of these gems in North Haven and see what happens.
By 27dan (2310), Southampton on Jan 2, 13 11:00 AM
Somebody from Stop and Shop management told you they don't want the business from people using food stamps? Is that what you mean by saying the "store was not meant for them"? Who is it meant for? Are there other groups 'it wasn't meant for"? Maybe certain ages, races, religions, national origins? Tell us about it Dan, we're all ears.
By VOS (1056), WHB on Jan 3, 13 11:37 PM
Great job of hijacking the thread, Dan. It doesn't make a lot of difference to me, but if you want exposure for this issue, no one will look for it under an article about something else entirely. Do a protest demo or something that makes its own story, and then let fly under that piece.
By Turkey Bridge (1808), Quiogue on Jan 3, 13 10:39 AM
You can't see the symmetry between a facility to ease suffering caused by catastrophic and other serious health care difficulties and people who suffer from catastrophic and other serious wealth deficiencies.

However, Dan does raise at least one factually valid point: the lack of affordable subsidized housing in every hamlet within the Town. Subsidized and other mechanisms to create affordable housing should not be ghettoized, but should be shared town wide.

I know George, you ...more
By NTiger (543), Southampton on Jan 3, 13 10:37 PM
They are shared Town-wide. All subdivisions over 5 lots in size must have an affordable housing lot. There have been affordable housing projects in North Sea (amongst condos well above 500k in price) and in Sagaponack and Tuckahoe and I'm sure other hamlets within the Town. HB/Flanders will always have more because land is cheaper and density is higher.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 13 9:52 AM
Nature is right, and NTiger, with his typical Bolshie talk about "serious wealth deficiencies," is wrong as usual.
By Turkey Bridge (1808), Quiogue on Jan 4, 13 1:54 PM
" a store not meant for them"? Are you really serious?

I bet if you ask Stop and Shop, they will tell you that everyone with cash, credit cards or food stamps are ALWAYS welcomed in the store.

Do us all a favor, if you have children, don't subject them to your warped mind set.
By But I'm a blank! (1277), Hampton Bays on Jan 3, 13 4:56 PM
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By local 84 (318), riverhead on Jan 3, 13 9:05 PM
Definitely time to change the subject. Back to the story please. East End Hospice was a Godsend in my brother's and my brother-in-law's final days. I can't think of an organization I respect or value more. I think this is a wonderful project and am sure it will be done with the utmost respect to the area and neighborhood. No, I don't live in that area, but would welcome them as my neighbor any time.
By rraynor (3), Westhampton on Jan 4, 13 9:30 AM
I don't understand what there is to dislike about this project... it's small in size and is a good cause and the land was donated for that specific use. Who is this hurting?!
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 13 9:53 AM
Listen Gnature, you think your cute , but we are not talking about work force housing here. This place looks like the South Bronx. You still have not answered the question so I will try one more time. Why should any one neighborhood be subjected to 60 section 8 units in a concentrated area.Tell you what I have a beautiful home. Do you what to trade since you seem to think these people are such a pleasure to look at each day.Who is going to buy my house except more of the same, or is that the part ...more
By 27dan (2310), Southampton on Jan 4, 13 12:57 PM
"You are no longer worth my time - enjoy living in your spiteful them vs. us world."
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 4, 13 1:06 PM
enjoy living in your narcissistic world where you think your opinion is so unique
By 27dan (2310), Southampton on Jan 6, 13 11:20 AM
narcissistic? Says the troll who rips off my avatar...
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 7, 13 9:14 AM
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I think the missive is muddled. No one would deny EEH's effort as noble. I have not been a beneficiary of them directly but have had family members in palliative care. We all agree on that.

The sole issue is this the best spot for a commercial enterprise? I think not for two reasons. First it is a large "footprint" of an enterprise near water. If it were any other organization this would not be so well met. Secondly is the rapidly changing scene in Quiogue. In the early 90's I was ...more
By Hambone (492), New York on Jan 5, 13 12:38 AM
Hambone - first rule to understanding Land Use is that there is no such thing as "never be developed". You can show me a property that's nothing but wet muck and I'll show you a way to get it developed. It's a sad but true fact, especially in the land of money.

Additionally it's approximately 5 acres in size - ~ 12,000 square foot home and will have 8 permanent residents. Is that REALLY any different than what goes on in Quogue, Quiogue, Westhampton Beach, Westhampton Dunes, West Hampton? ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 7, 13 4:08 PM
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I agree, that given engineering today you can pretty much build anywhere. The questions is should you? IMHO, if it were solely a residence current land use would say it is fine. Recent events (Sandy/Irene) should cause you to question that.

Now in this instance it is a commercial venture. IMHO again, I do not think Quiogue will benefit from commercial development in that spot, nor given all the proposed/enacted development over the last decade.

Now I prefer to keep the mission ...more
By Hambone (492), New York on Jan 8, 13 9:53 AM
Points well taken - however it's not a "commercial development" as much as it's a "multi-family" housing development. There's a distinct difference, especially when you consider it coming into a residential neighborhood. You could even make the argument that it's similar to a rehab facility - not exactly a "business" but more of a place where people are living.

Is it wise to allow it to be built on the banks of a creek? Well, it will meet FEMA flood zone requirements so what more can ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 8, 13 10:27 AM
I beg to differ here. It is a business, a not for profit business but much more of a business than a "multi-family house". The people staying there won't list it as a permanent address, won't vote in S'Hampton (unless they were SH residents first) and won't have other members of their family with them.

They will have commercial laundry service, "red bag" refuse, back up generators, etc.

Regardless of EEH's mission, that land is not for commercial use. The exemption should ...more
By Hambone (492), New York on Jan 8, 13 10:35 PM
My point is that in the eye's of Land Use, the Planning Board and planners - it's seen as a form of multi-family housing. If you don't want it - I suggest attending hearings and writing your council people.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 9, 13 8:02 AM
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By 27dan (2310), Southampton on Jan 7, 13 7:28 PM
Look at it this way -- Seafield Center, at Main St. and Seafield Lane in Westhampton Beach, is an alcoholic rehab facility located in one of the most desirable neighborhoods in the village. It's a lot bigger than the proposed Hospice project, and a bigger threat to peace and quiet, simply because it's a fair presumption that anyone is a bigger threat to peace and quiet than people who are so ill they need end-of-life care.

I live two blocks from Seafield and know people who live nearer ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1808), Quiogue on Jan 9, 13 10:22 AM
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Thanks TBridge - this was a point I was trying to make. It's not like they are putting in a shopping center... it's something that will laregely go unnoticed, especially due to its proximity to Montauk Highway.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Jan 9, 13 4:09 PM
Also...there is a slight difference. Seafield was an existing building and grounds. The proposed hospice involves razing a medium two story house (granted...a complete eyesore) and building a much larger footprint
By Hambone (492), New York on Jan 9, 13 10:55 PM
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