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Mar 22, 2013 4:06 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

FAA Will Keep Gabreski Airport Control Tower Open

Mar 27, 2013 12:45 PM

The Federal Aviation Administration announced Friday that it will keep the air traffic control tower at Gabreski Airport open, just weeks after threatening its closure—and the closure of 188 other towers across the country—due to federal spending cuts.

The tower at the Westhampton airport was one of only two dozen such facilities fully funded by the federal government that were spared from closure. Another 16 towers that are partially funded by the federal government also were saved at the last minute, increasing the 
total number of spared towers to 40.

The FAA still intends to close 149 towers across the country over a four-week period, starting on Sunday, April 7, according to a statement released by the agency. Earlier this month, the FAA announced that it 
had to close 189 towers in 
order to trim more than $600 million from its $15.2 billion budget for the remainder of 2013, as part of the across-the-board spending cuts known as sequestration.

“We heard from communities across the country about the importance of their towers, and these were very tough decisions,” said U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood in a prepared statement.

In a statement, U.S. Representative Tim Bishop of Southampton said the FAA has determined that keeping the Gabreski tower open is in the “national interest,” explaining that the reversal was motivated by the fact that the Air National Guard’s 106th Rescue Wing is based at the Suffolk County-owned airport. The base shares airspace with privately owned planes and aviation businesses.

ANG officials did not return calls and emails this week seeking comment on the FAA’s about-face.

“The preservation of FAA’s control tower at Gabreski is very welcome news to all of us who support the 106th Air Rescue Wing, as well as the general aviation community who rely on the tower to safely guide aircraft in and out of the airport,” Mr. Bishop said in a statement.

Anthony Ceglio, the manager of the airport, this week described the FAA’s decision as “huge,” explaining that the control tower is the “main reason the airport operates safely with the number of aircraft that take off and land throughout the year, especially in the summer.”

Originally, the FAA said it was going to close those towers that oversee fewer than 150,000 total operations each year. Last year, Gabreski had approximately 77,000 operations.

Like Mr. Bishop, Mr. Ceglio credited the presence of the ANG for saving the tower, which costs the federal government more than $500,000 a year to operate.

If the tower at Gabreski had been shuttered next month, pilots would have been forced to follow “non-tower” protocols, meaning they would be solely responsible for the operation of their aircraft when approaching and departing from the airport. At the present time, pilots are required to follow that protocol only at night; air traffic controllers are employed during the day.

The tower at Gabreski, as well as the 23 other facilities, were spared because federal officials decided that their closure would pose “significant threats to national security” following consultation with the Department of Defense or the Department of Homeland Security. 
Potential economic impact was another factor, according to the FAA.

Mr. Ceglio said there are two banner-towing companies, one glider-towing firm and several charter jet companies that currently fly into Gabreski, and that some had expressed concern over the possible closure.

“If the tower closed, it was presumed that some companies might fly to other less busy airports,” Mr. Ceglio said. “That could have negatively affected jobs at the airport and in the surrounding communities that supply fuel to the airport, catering supplies for aircraft, rental car businesses, taxi companies, etc.”

Paul Mejean, the chairman of the Gabreski Airport Noise Abatement Work Group, said the continued presence of air traffic controllers should keep pilots safe. He noted that there are, on average, about 300 takeoffs and landings every day at Gabreski during daylight hours each summer.

“This works out to one every three minutes,” said Mr. Mejean, who lives in Quogue. “With 
that volume of uncontrolled traffic, there would have been the real possibility of a tragic accident.”

Equally important to those who, like him, live near the airport, the air traffic controllers will continue to steer pilots away from the most densely populated neighborhoods that surround the airport, when weather and air traffic permit. If the tower had closed, Mr. Mejean worried that pilots would have selected whatever runway was most convenient to them, ignoring the airport’s noise abatement policies.

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VP Biden needs to come to Southampton for his summer visits also.
By PBR (4427), Southampton on Mar 22, 13 4:27 PM
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My very first thought!
By Frank Wheeler (1330), Northampton on Mar 22, 13 6:14 PM
BINGO!
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 22, 13 8:20 PM
Good news all around. The tower at Gabreski Airport serves a much larger community than just Westhampton Beach and the 106th ANG. Residents and pilots should be grateful for this cooperative good work of our Washington representatives, particularly Tim Bishop because it is is home base. But thanks go to Rep. Steve Israel and to Rep. Peter King as well for their critical input and support.
By foodie (74), Remsenburg on Mar 22, 13 5:36 PM
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Five comments up above, and four of them of them reference Joe Biden -- would you believe it? Only foodie has it right, pointing out that Gabreski serves a much wider community than Westhampton Beach and the 106th ANG (and Joe Biden). You other fellows need to come up out of your burrows, sniff the air, and take a look at the big world out here. There's a lot more to it than political sniping -- real bipartisan cooperation, for one thing, as in Reps. Bishop, Israel and King, two Dems and a Republican, ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1237), Quiogue on Mar 22, 13 9:51 PM
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> "real bipartisan cooperation"

You first, TB.
By Frank Wheeler (1330), Northampton on Mar 23, 13 12:48 AM
It's not a matter of who goes first, but if it were, I already did -- I praised Republican Peter King above for his work on Gabreski. I also just recently congratulated Chris Nuzzi (on another site) for introducing a measure providing a check on the authority of the Southampton ZBA, which has been overly generous in granting applications.

Apart from me, there's more bipartisanship in Southampton politics than most people realize. Both major parties regularly have members of other parties ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1237), Quiogue on Mar 23, 13 9:59 AM
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By Turkey Bridge (1237), Quiogue on Mar 23, 13 10:00 AM
Oh for the love of the late Marty Lange (who was such a self-contained bipartisan Supervisor that he ran and won at different times on all three "major lines"), TB, we see that admitting your sometime support for the likes of Nuzzi and King has so unnerved you that you hand stuttered on the "Submit" button. (Please, get off dial-up and get on the cable.)

Yes, many Town Board resolutions ARE passed unanimously (mostly of the "housekeeping" nature), but it seems that the politically-tinged ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1330), Northampton on Mar 23, 13 1:07 PM
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There is enough fat to cut in the federal beuracracy without the taxpayer feeling it. THANK GOD FOR THOSE WHO FORCED THE SEQUESTER! Living proof that we spend too much on wastefull BS. Amazing that when we last had the federal government shut down, it was only the "non vital" services that tok the hit. Why are there non-vital programs in the first place?
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Mar 25, 13 8:03 AM

Did you see Mayor Bloomberg yesterday:

Government has right to ‘infringe on your freedom’ New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Sunday: Sometimes government does know best. And in those cases, Americans should just cede their rights
This on the eve of this Reuters headline
CYPRUS TO SEIZE CITIZENS' CASH

Good old Socialism/Communism.....one small group of people mess up and the group as a whole suffers.

This is what happens when the statists ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Mar 25, 13 9:48 AM
BHO has already experienced a faster drop in the polls than any modern second-term President. In the immediate wake of his reelection, Gallup found Obama with a nearly 60% approval rating. Last week, his approval rating was just 46%. At this point after his reelection, even George W Bush had a 52% approval rating, and his reelection was much more closely contested.

Voters seem to embrace Obama more warmly when he's campaigning, rather than when he's governing. It isn't just his poll numbers, ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 25, 13 9:26 AM
Keep wishing, Dan. Don't pay any attention to the fact that you can't wish away the 2012 election and you can't wish away the next four years. Yes, there will be stumbles and even defeats for parts of the President's program, but rest assured, it will go more his way than yours.
By Turkey Bridge (1237), Quiogue on Mar 25, 13 7:12 PM
No Lies , Just the Facts Maam Just the Facts
Mar 25, 13 9:19 PM appended by 27dan
JUST THE FACTS! On the Economy, Obama Has Lost His Polling Advantage over the GOP by John Sexton 23 Mar 2013, 11:12 AM PDT 2post a comment Share This:Nate Silver at the NY Times looks at the trend in recent polling and finds that President Obama no longer holds an advantage over the GOP on handling the economy. Nate Silver , LOL A FOOL@HOME TRUSTED SOURCE
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 25, 13 9:19 PM
Steward ship , LOL How does he find the time,

Eight months into President George W. Bush's second term, the Washington Post wrote that Bush's frequent trips to his Texas ranch symbolized "a lackadaisical approach to the world's most important day job" and gleefully noted that Bush was intent on setting the record for being on "vacation"--or away from Washington, D.C.--for the most number of days of any president.

But when President Barack Obama vacations in Hawaii, sets up a fantasy ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 26, 13 9:17 PM
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HEY Doc! he went that way
Whats UP Doc !
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Mar 26, 13 9:19 PM
Funny!
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 26, 13 9:34 PM
We have watched the banks become thieving robbers on Obama's watch. Banks "too big to fail",800 million dollar drug laundering caper,Corzine missing 1.6 billion.Where is it? I don't know.Has he been arrested? No not in Obama's land of Oz.I'm sure that others have watched this mess and are stealing with both hands. Money laundering is very lucrative.They have to keep that drug trade functioning.
By TianaBob (256), S.Jamesport on Apr 4, 13 5:10 PM
Biden's $321,665 Limo Bill

After two items last week on the cost of lodging for Vice President Joe Biden's early February trip to Europe, other news organizations began to investigate further. Wolf Blitzer's show The Situation Room on CNN uncovered a contract apparently also related to the same visit to Paris:

Also on the receipt was $321,665 for a limousine company.

By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Mar 25, 13 5:14 PM
Ben Carson responded to attacks by MSNBC Host Touré today with a calm, even toned response claiming that it's time for people to move one from prejudice and group think based on ethnicity. Dr. Carson said:

Mar 26, 13 9:13 PM appended by They call me
LOOK IT UP FOR YOURSELVES YOU MIGHT LEARN A FEW THINGS !
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 26, 13 9:13 PM
"Freedom to decide on their own health decisions?" Aortion is murder.

Dr. Carson sounds more and more like a viable candidate for prez each time he speaks. The liberal media is firing up the character assassination machine . can't have a conservative black man out there, he doesn't fit their narrative.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Mar 27, 13 7:44 AM
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Can you believe how the rightie loons have hijacked yet another story on 27east. They have taken a conversation about the FAA and Gabreski and, as with every other story, used it to spew their bs about abortion and race! You guys are whacked! Wow.
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Mar 27, 13 9:29 AM
MORE RED INK FROM THE SPRINK BREAKER

The U.S. government could save taxpayers up to $8 billion by selling off the estimated 55,000 to 77,000 vacant properties it owns or leases.

At a time when the White House says it cannot find the $18,000 a week it needs to fund tours, unloading unused properties to save taxpayers billions might seem like a no-brainer.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 27, 13 3:15 PM
The sequester proves that the bloated federal government can cut spending and not adversely impact the taxpayers. In order to change the scenario the Obama regime must change the minds of the population, hence the elimination of White House tours. The big government advocates can't cut spending, it would be the beginning of the end for their house of cards.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Mar 28, 13 7:29 AM
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As spring break begins school children and Phil have yet another week of taxpayer paid vacation.

Across the country, thousands of students will travel to Washington, DC. The trips, funded by bake sales and other events throughout the year, will allow the students to take in Washington's historic landmarks.

One premier destination is off-limits this year, however. A few weeks ago, the obama Administration announced it was suspending public, self-guided tours of the White House ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Mar 28, 13 3:20 PM
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Cheep BS shot Stop playing the race card. UD is saying they vacation 1 time a month and have little concern for the people.

LET THEM EAT CAKE!
Mar 28, 13 3:46 PM appended by 27dan
Also I think every last one of us here on 27 East have stated we agree with you Phil. You should have the right to sleep with a man if you choose,It your business, we do not care one bit.
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 28, 13 3:46 PM
Cutting brush at the ranch Vs separate million $ vacations every 5 weeks for BHO, JOE, Michelle and now even the children

Between fantasy golf arrangements W/ Tiger, Celeb. party's,B Ball and clubbing with Jay Z, all using Air force 1 with full Secret Service Detail & logistics . oh forgot flying out to dinner on Saturday "Date Night"

Do the Math $$$
Mar 31, 13 4:14 PM appended by They call me
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 28, 13 4:14 PM
Thank you Dan! That remark was horse shat and you know it. "we know why"

No Phil why don't you tell us. I deserve an apology for your raciest assumption. You are just like the rest of the MSNBC slanderous crowd.

Which of my words do you base such a wild accusation on ???

You should be ashamed of your tactics
Mar 28, 13 4:00 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Bet you look a hell of a lot more white than me. Shows what you know!
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Mar 28, 13 4:00 PM
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Mar 28, 13 4:27 PM appended by They call me
You do know where to put that thumbs up
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 28, 13 4:27 PM
Jay Leno hits seven-week high in viewers

Everone remember to support Jay Leno tonight!
The Tonight Show just hit a all time high in total viewers with 3.52 million in the 18-49 demo with 982,000 viewers, according to Nielsen ratings.
The ratings bump for the week of March 18-22 came as Leno began taking nightly jabs at his employers NBC like referring to them as the snakes that we know they are, as news hit that a succession plan was in the works to replace him with prgressive ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 28, 13 4:44 PM
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By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Mar 28, 13 5:18 PM
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There he goes again... but don't dare post a picture of him, use his family name or the name of his school... hell have a fit.

So few words allowed that describe this hypocritical miscreant
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Mar 28, 13 5:35 PM
YOU WILL DRINK THE KOOL AID
Mar 29, 13 12:46 AM appended by They call me
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 29, 13 12:46 AM
But its ok to post peoples last names right?
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 30, 13 3:29 PM
He really looks like a nice kid, To bad your going to poison his mind
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Mar 30, 13 4:00 PM
He did not post your name just you likeness on a kool aid pitcher It was you that posted B F last name who's the hypocrite???
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Mar 31, 13 12:07 AM
when my name was posted.
You're a bunch of hippocrates

By philathome (4737

IS IT ME OR IS THIS GUY DELUSIONAL
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 31, 13 12:35 PM
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By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Mar 28, 13 6:19 PM
I think phil works at the press it seems they cover for him a lot.I saw joe hamptons post. the comment did not curse it just articulately spelled out phils nature. you are a mean man full of hate phill it did not take me long to figure that out.
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Mar 28, 13 6:27 PM
Which is why Phil's posts are some of the most removed. But don't worry, he has save screen shots of them all.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Mar 28, 13 9:44 PM
Say what? Huh? Your posts are removed because several of us take you on? Another "makes absolutely no sense" post from the minister of deflection and projection. A legend in his own mind I tell ya.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Mar 30, 13 7:18 PM
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Oh yeah, its the quantity, not the quality that gets your posts yanked. Delusional as usual foolathome.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Mar 30, 13 9:03 PM
Ya, A carrot for a carrot, Dam It
Mar 31, 13 12:36 PM appended by They call me
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 31, 13 12:36 PM
'Ten Commandments' Rerun Beats Jim Carrey, Tina Fey & 'Girls'

According to Nielsen, ABC's annual rebroadcast of Cecil B. DeMille's The Ten Commandments (1956) pulled in 5.9 million viewers Saturday night. The religious epic, which stars Charlton Heston as Moses, has been a ratings winner for ABC every year since 1973 when the network first began its tradition of airing the classic over the Easter/Passover weekend.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 1, 13 9:10 PM
oh lord phillip do you ever listen to yourself, It cant be true what they say about you being a counsel to children. It just cant be true.
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Mar 28, 13 10:08 PM
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Mar 29, 13 12:47 AM appended by They call me
All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Mar 29, 13 12:47 AM
Missed by a mile there Phil!!!! Way to deflect from the real issue at hand-----again.Once again you and you alone have injected race into the discussion, very consistant. People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Mar 29, 13 7:36 AM
From control tower to racism in three easy steps. I like all the arguing over politics. I mean they do such a good job in DC and are so worthy of the passionate attacks and defenses.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Mar 30, 13 8:57 PM
Phil, there was a white Easter bunny in Speonk today. WHITE! Can you imagine such a thing. Clearly Speonk´s outrageous and blatant racism directed at the president and other rodents giving out free stuff.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Mar 30, 13 9:05 PM
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By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Mar 31, 13 12:11 AM
You are such a conniving sneak I saw that post and there was no name calling just factual observation of your character that is on display each and every day for all to see.

Nice bit of reverse engineering on your part.

You are twisted and the fact that you say you counsel children is even more twisted.
I take your challenge post your name and I will post mine I will even meet you for lunch and hand deliver it!
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Mar 31, 13 1:48 PM
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That was not a threat, I just took you up on your challenge. But the paranoid voices in your head told you it was a threat again. I would live to get together for coffee at a dinner with all the players here and without the press censoring every other word .
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 1, 13 12:28 AM
Well Phil, you kind of implied that you would go first.
Apr 1, 13 7:26 PM appended by dnice
Please don't. We don't need to know who anyone is.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 1, 13 7:26 PM
I am afraid of paranoid wackos like you Phil. Only an idiot would post their name. You using child psychology to try and get someone to man up and post their private info is a rather childish and desperate move. You attack posters and insult them and then you want to play the sympathy card claiming that your family is being used against you? You are a sad little man.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 2, 13 10:51 PM
Your hands are as dirty as anyone else when it comes to name calling and insults. You think that because you didn't use a "curse" word that your posts are somehow holy. It is laughable that you act like a wounded duck, hilarious really and I doubt that anyone is buying it. All it is is deflection.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 3, 13 8:35 AM
Phil, kind of strange that you are the only one I can't have a civil discussion with. You are the common denominator in all of these nasty exchanges with me and others but keep thinking you take the high road. You're awesome.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 3, 13 7:15 PM
I don't have a crowd Phil. My views have remained consistent since I started posting and I really have no problem with anyone else on this board. I have tried giving you the benefit of the doubt a couple of times but you insist on being you. Shame on me for that.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 13 3:54 PM
Interesting idea
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 1, 13 8:26 AM
APRIL FOOLS...NOT - Obama Proclaims April the Month to Teach Young People ‘How to Budget Responsibly’ and has proclaimed April “National Financial Capability Month,” during which his administration will do things such as teach young people “how to budget responsibly." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You can't make this stuff up.

“I call upon all Americans to observe this month with programs and activities to improve their understanding of financial principles and ...more
Apr 1, 13 11:34 AM appended by Mr. Snerdley
When Obama was inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009, the total debt of the federal government was 10,626,877,048,913.08. As of the close of business on March 28, 2013, the total debt was $16,766,988,432,792.62 an increase of $6,140,111,383,879.54 since he took office and an increase of $53,377 in debt for each of the 115,031,000 households in the US.
By Mr. Snerdley (140), Southampton on Apr 1, 13 11:34 AM
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You're obviously a racist whose intention is to smear Barry Soetoro. How dare you use facts when discussion the Almighty?
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 1, 13 4:30 PM
Haven't any of you figured it out yet?

They DON'T give a **** about you. ANY of you. The vast majority of the people who hold just about any position of authority in this country, especially in Washington DC don't care about YOU. Their main concern is their wallet, and the interests of their sponsors. Because, let's "get real" about it, these people have "sponsors" who "donate" to their campaigns for office. With a scant few exceptions, all the people you "elect" are bought and paid ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 1, 13 9:17 PM
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Couldn't agree more.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 1, 13 9:30 PM
535 members of Congress.

Average net worth: $996,000

Quite a "fortune" for people (generally) paid $174,00 per annum...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 2, 13 7:57 PM
Phil - your 4760 posts serve as a textbook for bipartisan analysis.

I'm glad you called out CA for acting in such a partisan manner. Thank goodness we have you serving as a beacon of truth, honesty, and fair criticism of the good folks working for the people, regardless of what side of the aisle they stand. Golf clap, sir. Golf clap.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Apr 3, 13 5:35 PM
Well lets take those ridiculous comments one by one, start at the begining where do you feel anyone is restricting voters rights. Stay focused now only ansewr one qestion at a time
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 2, 13 5:34 PM
I do not want Tim Dickmans view I want yours, Try not to cut and paste for once, You said the republicans want to restrict voters rights, Where? Don't use goggle to look up how Mike Taibbi feels about this, we want to know what you think about this.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 2, 13 9:10 PM
Listen enough of your crap, You should have a valid drivers license or D.M.V ID card , Be of legal age, And Vote ONE TIME NOT 5 ! also this absentee thing is complete BS and is what Acorn used to fill out ballots for cigarettes. We have a day for voting if you want to make it a law that business must be closed than fine ...but one day one vote per person and we will use indelible ink if we have to. WAKE UP AMERICA!and stop letting the progressives guilt you into losing your freedom piece by piece.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 3, 13 4:13 PM
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I recall Anonymous publicizing how they hacked a Republican party attempt to subvert e-voting machines. And, they did stop the attempt to subvert the servers in the network. Super sorry, it's a fact.


"In the video released prior to Election Day, Anonymous warns Karl Rove that he’s being watched. “We know that you will attempt to attempt to rig the election of Mitt Romney to your favor,” a black-robed figure in a Guy Fawkes mask says in the video. “We will ...more
Apr 3, 13 8:58 PM appended by Mr. Z
The statement reads, “We began following the digital traffic of one Karl Rove…After a rather short time, we identified the digital structure of Karl’s operation and even that of his ORCA. This was an easy task in that barn doors were left open and the wind swept us inside.”The “ORCA” that Anonymous is referring to in the press release is a massive, high-tech get-out-the-vote system created by the Romney campaign this year that will keep tabs on potential voters and coordinate with operatives to target who has and hasn’t voted yet on Election Day. Romney’s Communications Director Gail Gitcho bragged about how sophisticated ORCA is saying, “At 5 o’clock when the exit polls come out, we won’t pay attention to that. We will have had much more scientific information based on the political operation we have set up.” In other words, ORCA will know who won Ohio better than any exit polls. But, according to Anonymous, ORCA had nothing to do with getting out the vote and everything to do with rigging the vote. “We coded and created, what we call The Great Oz. A targeted password protected firewall that we tested and refined over the past weeks. We placed this code on more than one of the digital tunnels and their destination that Karl's not so smart worker bees planned to use on election night.” Anonymous alleges these “digital tunnels” were leading to servers in three different states. The release goes on to detail what happened on election night as Rove’s operatives attempted to access these tunnels. “We watched as Karl's weak corrupters repeatedly tried to penetrate The Great Oz. These children of his were at a loss-how many times and how many passwords did they try-exactly 105.” “Karl’s speared ORCA whale was breached, rotting with a strong stench across his playground, unable to be resuscitated,” claims Anonymous.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 3, 13 8:58 PM
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For all who post here From observation here in Florida I can assure you all That many forms of Jim Crow are still alive here and YES the Republicans in my voting district do make it very difficult for ordinary folks to vote. Sad but True. I volunteered to help people to register to vote last year. The slurs and mean actions to me in public were also sad to hear and see.
By summertime (516), summerfield fl on Apr 15, 13 8:43 PM
And after you attempt to answer that question, please show how "republicans" want to DESTROY, powerful statement, the environment. Actual quotes please, not talking points from the Huffington Puffington Post.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 3, 13 7:02 AM
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Not every person Cap they made sure they didn't count a ton of military ballots didn't they Phil, Or did Rolling Stone leave that part out
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 3, 13 4:41 PM
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You made the rediculous statements and are unable to back them up using actual quotes. It's highly unlikelt that there is anyone in the Republican party that has actually stated that "we want to destroy the evironment". If you can't come up with the quote than you are a liar, plain and simple. Just another liberal liar. Gotta go to work, the richest of the rich are waiting, God bless them.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 3, 13 7:27 AM
F Y I
Because of their association with this odd behavior, lemming "suicide" is a frequently used but incorect metaphor in reference to people who go along unquestioningly with popular opinion
The misconception of lemming "mass suicide" is long-standing and has been popularized by a number of factors. In 1955, Disney Studio illustrator Carl Barks drew an Uncle Scrooge adventure comic with the title "The Lemming with the Locket". This comic, which was inspired by a 1953 American Mercury article, ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 3, 13 5:07 PM
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Google:

the truth about wealth in america collective evolution


Watch Joe Martino's video short, and get back to us.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 3, 13 9:10 PM
Obama administration pushes banks to make home loans to people with weaker credit
The Washington Post Published: April 2
The Obama administration is engaged in a broad push to pressure banks to make more home loans available to people with weaker credit, an effort he says will help power the economic recovery but that skeptics say could open the door to the risky lending that caused the housing crash in the first place.
NO NO NO NO NO, Not this time, fool us once...
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 3, 13 4:07 PM
Risky lending was a VERY minor part of the problem.

The actual problem was securitization which let lenders off the hook when it came to any responsibility for the loans they made. They didn't have to hold the note, the just took the commission and ran. Willful disregard for underwriting standards, and the "insurance" on the securities (derivatives bets) were a HUGE part of the problem. You see, when you buy car insurance or house insurance, the company selling the policy MUST be capitalized. ...more
Apr 3, 13 9:23 PM appended by Mr. Z
Let's put this in the "lowest common denominator", if you will. Were it not for the way securitization was structured via derivatives, no "risky loans" would have been granted because those making the loans would be forced to hold the note for 15, 20, or 30 years, and be RESPONSIBLE for the consequences. That's a big word with the self styled "conservatives", right?
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 3, 13 9:23 PM
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Z. Correct except I believe the gamble was born when the gov't got involved and "encouraged" loans to people who couldn't repay them. Not that that made it right and I agree that these corps just about capsized the economy.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 3, 13 10:10 PM
Though it is a "chicken or the egg" kind of thing, securitization of mortgages was begun back in the seventies. It wasn't until the clandestine letter to the CFTC in 1991 by J.Arons (Goldman-Sachs) which changed the definition of a physical hedger that the speculative market was doomed to run amok. After the GLBA, derivatives were permitted to be "black contract", unregulated, and exist in complete and total state in which there was zero transparency. A "free market" is one thing, and bona fide ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 3, 13 10:23 PM
Regardless of any media influence, The means and the infrastructure had to be present to make certain things like securitization and derivatives possible.

Unfortunately you're dead wrong about the payment reality. The reality set in when the majority of previously affordable mortgage is based on an adjustable rate had their monthly payments go sky high after Alan Greenspan raised interest rates 16 times in less than two years. It was his action and his action alone which lit the fuse ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 4, 13 11:16 AM
"It was also "The Maestro" who encourage people to get adjustable rate mortgages in the first place"

Absolutely true. I think that history will judge Greenspan,once untouchable, very poorly.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 4, 13 3:50 PM
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Pardon the grammar, I was running on speech to text.

BUT, I'm sure someone got the point...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 4, 13 9:32 PM

You're the ones with the guns, And we've seen the instable behavior you people are capable of.

By philathome

+++

In a dramatic twist, Phil transitions from racism to a more subtle accusation.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Apr 3, 13 5:21 PM
Nah. Most of us just have brooms and pitchforks. That bump in the night... yeah, that's us. We'll eventually get you and eat you.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Apr 4, 13 5:21 PM
hahahahahaha
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 13 8:17 AM
IMHO the blame falls solely on those who sought out a mortgage, sat down at closing and SIGNED ON THE DOTTED LINE PROMISING TO PAY THE MONEY BACK AND FAILED TO DO SO!!!! No one held a gun to the head of the borrower and screamed "sign the papers!" These were contracts entered into voluntarily and to blaim the lender is absolving the borrower of their responsibility of paying back the loan. Greed on the part of the borrower by getting too big a loan or ignorance in not understanding what they ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 4, 13 5:01 PM
your failure is that you do not realize how complex system actually is.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 4, 13 8:01 PM
You don't grasp the grift, and you don't comprehend just how simply educated most of American society is compared to the complexity of Wall Street's grift.

You think you aren't simple, but the sad fact is you are.
Apr 4, 13 9:29 PM appended by Mr. Z
Assume the position. Robert Wuhl.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 4, 13 9:29 PM
Your failure is in realizing it does not have to be complex. Libertarian platform with the exception of a Strong national defense, Scrap the tax code for a Consumption tax, Let the 10th amendment do the rest.
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 4, 13 10:51 PM
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"Simple" is the solution as UD Just Proved...

And by the way the answer is still... NO NO NO NO NO!
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 4, 13 11:01 PM
The people who made most of the "liar loans" and other forms of loans to people "who could not afford them" knew EXACTLY what they were doing.

It didn't matter to them because no matter what due to securitization they had NO responsibility for the life of the loan, nor did they have the long term skin in the game to make sure the loan was proper.

You don't understand the grift, and you are part of the problem.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 15, 13 9:18 PM
Holder: OBAMA 'My Boy'

Attorney General Eric Holder in an interview on the Tom Joyner radio show

“I’m still enjoying what I’m doing, there’s still work to be done. I’m still the President’s wing-man, so I’m there with my boy. So we’ll see,”

OMG PHIL THAT WAS DOG WHISTLE IF I EVER HEARD IT... WHAT A RACIST!
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 4, 13 11:06 PM
What a Redistributing Crooked Liar ? OK
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 5, 13 6:46 PM
Who is we? I would like to know who stands with you. Maybe it's the voices?
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 13 5:36 PM
Well then that is a double standard isn't it?
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 6, 13 5:37 PM
What do you call a guy who can't differentiate disagreements with policy from race?
Hint, it rhymes with smillratblome.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Apr 6, 13 7:54 PM
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You don't grasp the concept of personal responsibility or the legality of a contract! If someone is too simply educated to understand a contract then an attorney is neccessary.
I still blame the ones who defaulted for the problem.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 5, 13 7:16 AM
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Way off intended topic - I think they are both to blame but it is time for consumers to get their heads out of the sand. I have never done anything because some gov't official told me it was a good idea(Greenspan, adjustable rates). I think I could safely assume that most consumers that signed bad loans heard what they wanted to hear instead of researching and making better decisions. It is way too easy to assign blame to the banks, even if they are a bunch of con artists.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 5, 13 8:51 AM
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By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 5, 13 7:55 PM
No Phil, tell us what we want to call him ?
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 5, 13 9:57 PM
After a week of almost non-stop corruption revelations, including charges that Bronx Assemblyman Eric Stevenson took bribes to write a bill to help his friends, Bloomberg also included Gov. Andrew (HUD) Cuomo in his revulsion of all things Albany, implying that one of the things that aids corruption is the practice of the governor sending lawmakers something called a “message of necessity” so a bill can pass quickly, without anyone having a the chance to study it.

“Why ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 5, 13 10:01 PM
Phil what do you think about Obama's recent comment about CA attorney general. Guaranteed if a republican had said it you would be crying murder
By razza5350 (1634), East Hampton on Apr 5, 13 11:49 PM
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My hope is that Phil's posts are meant to be over the top and provocative.
My fear is that he may be serious. That would be sad and somewhat concerning.
By double standard (1457), Remsenburg on Apr 6, 13 9:19 AM
Somewhat concerning ?



By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 6, 13 7:11 PM
Thatcher, Reagan, John Paul: What Real 'Hope and Change' Looked Like
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 9, 13 9:38 AM
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Thatcher On Socialism: "He Would Rather The Poor Were Poorer, Provided The Rich Were Less Rich"
What a great leader she will be missed.
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 9, 13 9:44 AM
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Talking about socialism did you see this outrage

MSNBC Ad: Kids Don't Belong To Their Parents, Kids Belong To Communities

In an promo spot, MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry says:

"We have never invested as much in public education as we should have because we’ve always had kind of a private notion of children. Your kid is yours and totally your responsibility. We haven’t had a very collective notion of “These are our children.” So part of it is we ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 9, 13 9:53 AM
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By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 9, 13 10:35 AM
Besides being a rabid racist bigot, Melissa Harris-Perry is a devout Marxist Totalitarian Statist- hence her Collective Propaganda, aided by her employer- the Obama Propaganda Network- MSNBC.

By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 9, 13 3:10 PM
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By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Apr 9, 13 11:40 AM
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By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Apr 9, 13 3:41 PM
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By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 9, 13 4:50 PM
Coward? What's your real name peoplefirst? I'd be happy to discuss this issue in person.
By RealityFirst (597), Bridgehampton on Apr 9, 13 4:59 PM
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What's your real name, tough guy? You attack little old Hazel for language but don't have the balls to do the same with your fellow patriots?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 9, 13 7:40 PM
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HMMMMM seems like the screeching from the leftists is getting louder by the day. Could it be that they see that their boy Barry is screwing things up so badly that even the main stream media is calling Him on it?!
As to the topic of this thread: Sequester is a good thing, it's showing that nothing of substance is being cut, just some things to make us, the taxpayers feel the pinch and make Barry Soetoro look like He truly cares. Another scam perpetrated by the Demokratz. They can't allow ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 9, 13 5:36 PM
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I am also sadend by the death of a great woman she liberated Great Britain from the chains of socialism and together with Reagan, John Paul won the cold war. she was a true leader and an example to all the weak-kneed politicians of today! May she rest in peace knowing she did a great job!

By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 9, 13 6:11 PM
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Corks are popping because there are still some socialist leeches left in Great Britain who saw her as a threat to their way of life. A similar situation unfortunately exists here in the USA, there is a class of leeches who demand handouts from the government and deride anyone who disagrees with them, they're labeled as racists, bigots or whatever the buzzword of the day is. Read Phil's posts for a glaring example. Off to WORK now, the 1% of the 1% are waiting,.May the rich get richer!
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 10, 13 6:52 AM
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By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 10, 13 10:27 PM
Liberal politics breeds dependency. Dependency makes you a servant to those whom you are dependent. Conservatives want to give people the tools and skills and opportunity to help themselves. There is nothing more liberating than to be able to produce and provide for yourself. For the government to keep handing you something for nothing appeals to the worst characteristics of human nature - selfishness and laziness. breed self-loathing. Want to feel worthless? Then hand over your life to someone ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 10, 13 9:57 AM
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A socialist community organizer with no practical experience,never held a private sector job,what could go wrong?
.

By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 10, 13 10:00 AM
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Looks to me like Obama is the greedy one WOW!

Budget: 41% Increase in Income Taxes

obama released his long-delayed budget blueprint. Arriving more than two months after the statutory deadline, the budget contains a mix of increased spending, higher taxes and very little real deficit reduction. The White House is quick to argue that the increased taxes fall only on the wealthy, by limiting deductions and credits. The budget document itself, however, shows personal incomes taxes ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 10, 13 4:48 PM
soaring 41%, as a share of the economy, over the next decade Buried deep on page 191 of obama's budget is a table showing tax collections as a share of the overall economy. Last year, personal income tax collections by the government equaled 7.3% of the economy. Under Obama's budget, however, income tax collections as a share of the economy would spike to 10.3% by 2023. This represents a 41% increase in just a decade.

In others words, the government will take 41% more out of personal income ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 10, 13 4:49 PM
Fool@home said "I'll wait for the full analysis of the budget" Well Its HERE!

A Senate Budget Committee analysis of President Barack Obama’s newly released budget says the plan achieves just $119 billion in net deficit reduction, not the $1.8 trillion the White House claims. The analysis finds that Obama’s budget would generate $8.2 trillion in new debt, increasing total U.S. debt to $25.4 trillion over the next decade.

Lord Help Us!
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 10, 13 4:42 PM
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That is very scary how could we ever pay that down ?
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 10, 13 10:07 PM
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$25.4 trillion !!! The problem with society is that the average person thinks that everything that happens has only happened in their lifetime. It is why global warming idiots can gin up support. It is why socialists can con the current population to their form of pyramid schemes. It is why obama can run his illiterate mouth and get people to believe him. I use the word illiterate because he does not understand anything that he has learned and forces his mind to accept dogma and ideology that any ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 10, 13 5:01 PM
If you count the last 30 posts you have 4 that have disappeared people first 1 and witch hazel 2

reality first has two but really only one since it was a double post.

Do you ever slow down long enough to see how you sound to the rest of us?

just wondering?
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 10, 13 10:06 PM
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Apr 10, 13 10:19 PM appended by Mr. Z
As a segue, do you know why Lyme's disease is so hard to combat? It's life cycle is not based on iron like human hemoglobin. The bacteria bases itself on Manganese, similar to cyanobacteria which base their lifecycle on Arsenic. One day, you may finish playing "catch up", but I doubt it.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 10, 13 10:19 PM
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By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 10, 13 10:32 PM
You of coarse are entitled to your opinion and that is all it is....
others have different ones do you really think all that oil is organic...lol
Thomas Gold, a respected astronomer and professor emeritus at Cornell University in Ithaca, NY, has held for years that oil is actually a renewable, primordial syrup continually manufactured by the Earth under ultra hot conditions and tremendous pressures. As this substance migrates toward the surface, it is attacked by bacteria, making it appear ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 10, 13 10:48 PM
Sorry, only two comments until my renewal is straightened out. There's nothing quite like having your bank accounts compromised.

Yes the "abiotic" theory of oil was first proposed by Soviet scientists almost a century ago. The theory stipulates that calcium carbonate (limestone) subducted into the mantle by plate tectonics reacts with iron and produces crude oil. The oceans are also a "carbon sink", and absorb most of CO2 as it dissolves into solution from the atmosphere to create carbonic ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 14, 13 11:11 AM
Just more red ink from the usual suspects
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 11, 13 9:16 AM
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Nobody wished Captain a happy 2000 th birthday, You bring a lot of value and insight to this site... thank you for you time and effort
Apr 11, 13 12:45 PM appended by joe hampton
And stop looking at Erin that way...She is barley 18
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 11, 13 12:45 PM
To any of the Obama defenders here: How can He be taken seriously if His budget doesn't balance? Just more defecit spending , right? If He truly wanted to decrease the defecit, the first thing to do would be stop spending money we don't have.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 12, 13 6:57 AM
They are all very quiet as of late, I think the red ink boys feel a bit defeated
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 12, 13 8:16 AM
ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTING!
Democrats are Blocking Resolution to Honor Lady Thatcher
One would naturally think it impossible that anyone would hesitate – even for an instant – to honor the woman who tackled communism head on as prime minister of Great Britain. Lady Margaret Thatcher was a principled politician who helped to foster the special relationship between Great Britain and the United States that we all benefit from today.
A Senate resolution to honor Lady Thatcher was ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 12, 13 8:30 AM
Only the right wing lunatics of 27east could turn an article about an airport into a love fest for Lady Thatcher!

She is disliked by the left for exactly the same reasons she is adored by those who also love Sarah Palin, Michelle Bachmann and Tom Cruz

Thatcherism’s economic program was one of austerity, privatization, and aggressive union-busting. In the mid-1980s, Thatcher’s government said it would shut down 20 coal mines across Great Britain, costing some 20,000 ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Apr 12, 13 9:48 AM
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By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 12, 13 3:09 PM
She was amazing
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 12, 13 4:50 PM
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You nailed it progress. The teabaggers on 27east have lost what's left of their diminutive minds! Guaranteed that undocumented patriot learned all there is to know about Maggie on FOX news in the days since her death!

The last gasp for relevance by a bunch of angry, middle-aged, high school dropouts
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 12, 13 3:22 PM
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i just read this and i am sickened by it.thought maybe it would help you realize the horror of what you seem to glorify phil

Why Dr. Kermit Gosnell's Trial Should Be a Front-Page Story
The dead babies. The exploited women. The racism. The numerous governmental failures. It is thoroughly newsworthy.
The grand jury report in the case of Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, is among the most horrifying I've read. "This case is about a doctor who killed babies and endangered women. What we mean ...more
Apr 12, 13 6:23 PM appended by Erin 27 E
lord hear our prayers
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 12, 13 6:23 PM
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Can You Imagine the Coverage If It Were Dogs?

“Had Kermit Gosnell killed dogs, HLN would be giving it wall to wall coverage as they do all sorts of sensational trials. Nancy Grace would be in full outrage mode every night.”Last night on twitter, Dave Weigel of Slate noted he was just hearing from twitterers about the gruesome trial of Kermit Gosnell. Those who care about the story owe a tremendous debt to Kirsten Powers taking to the pages of USA Today to write about it.



Apr 12, 13 6:34 PM appended by 27dan
“Had Kermit Gosnell killed dogs, HLN would be giving it wall to wall coverage as they do all sorts of sensational trials. Nancy Grace would be in full outrage mode every night.”
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 12, 13 6:34 PM
This is no different than the Germans who ignored the Jews being loaded into box cars. It did not fit their "template" either.

The press now sees only ideology. If humans are brutally killed that is an embarrassment to their ideology.

Phil it seems clear your ideology as well trumps human life and you seem to think the infanticide should continue.

Apr 12, 13 6:50 PM appended by joe hampton
I urge everyone to please seek out and read this story for yourself. It is not easy to read but you owe it to humanity
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 12, 13 6:50 PM
Erin said... " Kirsten Power's USA Today column makes a powerful, persuasive case that the Gosnell trial ought to be getting a lot more attention in the national press than it is getting.

THE POINT WAS...

the Gosnell trial ought to be getting a lot more attention in the national press than it is getting.



By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 12, 13 6:57 PM
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I agree with Dana Perino: Media Needs To Be Held Accountable On Gosnell's Murder Trial

While discussing the lack of Media Coverage of the trail of Dr Kermit Gosnell, who is charged with murdering seven newborn infants Dana Pierino pointed to Breitbart News' coverage for exposing the media blackout.

Well Done!
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 13, 13 2:37 PM
As usual, small-minded patriots are incapable of critical thinking. Firstly, u turn an article about the FAA into a celebration of Thatcherism, and then you turn to abortion without realizing what the story even means.

Instead of encouraging more restrictions on reproductive rights, Hogue said, the Gosnell trial should serve as a warning about the consequences of denying women access to safe and affordable abortion care.

"This is exactly what happens when you place undue restrictions ...more
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 12, 13 8:11 PM
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witch, I know first hand what the story means, no one is trying to put anyone down for the past, its ok,
what is important is the principles you take with you into the future.we need to support our daughters and sisters in there time of need. it takes a little bit of self sacrifice and shared personal responsibility.didn't you read the article I posted? for me its not ok to keep promoting a lie to hide behind in order to not admit the biggest mistake i ever made. let go of this belief you know ...more
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 12, 13 9:08 PM
This thread jumped of the tracks, as most on this site do, long ago.

Witch Hazel, on this point I agree with you. While I disapprove of abortion, I feel that making it illegal would result in people seeking it out anyway and more than likely in a less than safe manner. Prohibition almost never works.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 13 8:58 PM
dnice, We are not talking about Marijuana or a gin and tonic here we are talking about a brutal act of taking a life. I am a libertarian on almost everything but please consider what you just said.Its just wrong, Its murder of a defenseless child.

I did read your article Erin and I did shed tears.How horrible a thing to call it "reproductive rights" its barbaric and so so cold.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 12, 13 9:20 PM
I agree TCM, but prohibiting it isn't going to stop people from doing it with some back alley butcher. I make my own choices based on my faith and let people make theirs. It is a very divisive subject and I am not trying to offend anyone with my opinion.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 12, 13 9:53 PM
It should be a crime punishable like any other murder
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 13, 13 12:46 AM

What if Gosnell Had Used an AR-15?

Thanks to conservative new media, the Kermit Gosnell trial is finally part of the national dialog. But before the mainstream press got around to doing their job, ten congressmen took to the floor of the House to protest the lack of media attention being paid to the horrifying story. One such congressman, Rep. Chris Smith (R-NJ), contrasted the abortionist's trial to another ongoing narrative that the media covers obsessively: gun control. “If ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 13, 13 2:32 PM
You would have to change the law and this misconception of womens health choice first and I am talking about the back alley butchers being held accountable not the mothers
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 13, 13 7:14 AM
Pro Now: Most of the article about Lady Thatcher reads liike a list of great accomplishments, thanks for making the point that she was a great Prime Minister! If the Demokratz are in fact holding up the resolution it's just more pandering to the Parasite wing of the party.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 13, 13 7:31 AM
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Right on Cap
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 14, 13 12:59 PM
Thanks for chiming in right on cue Phil, once again you've made my point!
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 14, 13 7:32 AM
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By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 14, 13 7:32 AM
I'm glad the senate finally passed the Thatcher resolution despite Dem attempt to gut It,
On Tuesday, the US Senate finally passed a resolution to honor recently deceased former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher. Senator Bob Menendez (D-NJ) had been holding up the resolution over the resolution’s word choice. Fighting him on that was Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY). Menendez was reportedly offended by McConnell’s language, which Menendez thought insulted other ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 16, 13 9:11 PM
Hey joe, in case you missed it, this one's for you:

Yes the "abiotic" theory of oil was first proposed by Soviet scientists about a century ago. The hypothesis stipulates that calcium carbonate (limestone) subducted into the mantle by plate tectonics reacts with iron and produces crude oil. Also, lest we forget, the oceans are a "carbon sink", and absorb much of the CO2 created on the planet, as it dissolves into solution from the atmosphere to create carbonic acid, thus reducing the amount ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 15, 13 9:29 PM
Due to ObamaCare, Nation's Largest Movie Theater Chain Cuts Employee Hours

Monday, Regal Entertainment Group, the largest movie theatre chain in the country, announced that thousands of employees will have their work hours cut as a direct result of the added cost of the new ObamaCare mandates that become effective later this year.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 16, 13 2:34 PM
Don't let him fool you ...He knows it's all part of the plan for single payer coverage and redistribution of wealth

. Just like he knows the real reason they want to repel the second amendment it so they can further infringe on your rights with no fear of reprisal
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 17, 13 8:22 AM
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Spiteful is forcing employers to pay for things they cant afford if you dont like your job go get a differant one
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 16, 13 5:50 PM
No, Its so the employer can take better care of there familys, That is why they took on the Risk and Sacrifice of starting a business. You want better benefits work your way up the latter. It should not be an automatic.

"It appears that Regal entertainment is not only denying their employees access to health care, they're cutting their hours so the employees can't afford it on their own"

We told you this would happen. You and the OWS crowd are NOT going to extort from us what you ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 16, 13 9:03 PM
Who is we?
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 16, 13 9:22 PM
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Ragals employees are free to go elsewhere at any time
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 17, 13 7:54 AM
Without all those employees the business does not function. Where do you draw the line on exactly who is worth how much?

I mean all rational sane seriousness, how many cars do you really need? How many houses do you really need? The American corporate structure has become the poster child for avarice greed gluttony and any other "mortal sin" which escapes my memory at this time.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 17, 13 8:27 AM
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Typical liberal blather. Business exists to make a profit (GASP) for the owners. Employees are offered a compensation package, which may or may not include health insurance, by the owners and are free to accept it or not. What you fail to understand is that in order for a business to be successful and have employees they have to be profitable. A lot of small companies with a few employees simply can not afford to provide their employees with benefits, a better than average wage but not health insurance. ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 17, 13 7:29 AM
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Perhaps you have not heard of Isthmus engineering?

they run an incredibly successful business design, based on egalitarian democracy, not totalitarian dictatorship. everytime I read your dribble, I'm reminded of the English aristocracy this country rebelled against to establish itself.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 17, 13 8:16 AM
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Good for them sounds like a great place to work. so your point is what?
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 17, 13 8:24 AM
Regal is by no means a small business. Maybe if it didn't cost damn near 50 bucks to go out to a movie with you girl they. might be making a better profit on volume.

For Regal not to be profitable with the price is the charge is ludicrous.

In truth be told, For decades are management at the family business managed to provide everyone with health benefits regardless. Even when we were far smaller than we are now. Somehow I doubt the employees or now forced to suffer are the ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 17, 13 12:45 PM
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All you and Phil do is bitch and complain, If you think the movie costs to much its simple stay home. Its called supply and demand or were you absent from class that day?
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 17, 13 2:02 PM
Its none of my business how much a company makes or does not make nor is it yours. If you work at Wilmar and you think Cost co treats there employees better than go apply for a job at Cost co. I personally would choose to work at Wilmar a non union company where if I worked hard and got noticed I could move up the ladder and into a position where the benefits as well as a Mercedes would be in my future do to hard work! Wilmar over time rewards hard work and long hours in a way Cost co cannot. But ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 17, 13 4:48 PM
Why would you squander all your hard earned money on a Mercedes, when a Jeep at less than half the cost will get you just about anywhere?

And yes, I do stay home instead of going out to the movies. That wasn't the point, and as usual you missed it. The point was is that the people whose hours, and compensation is being slashed are not responsible for how the company is run, or the pricing structure. But, as usual in American Kleptotocracy those who are responsible use their power and ...more
Apr 18, 13 5:25 AM appended by Mr. Z
Isn't this similar to what was said when "Robber Barons" were sending people needlessly to their deaths in squalid, unsafe working conditions? "Its none of my business how much a company makes or does not make nor is it yours." ------ The first step in solving a problem, is realizing there is one. Willful blindness, and ignorance will never be a component of logical problem solving. Ever.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 18, 13 5:25 AM
DEFEATED obama RAGES " Demand more power for democrats"

With the failure of the Democrats’ attempt to exploit the Newtown school shooting to press forward gun control measures, President Obama took to the microphones along with the relatives of Sandy Hook victims to demonize his opposition. This, of course, was his strategy all along: knowing that he did not have 60 votes in the Democrat-controlled Senate to pass his gun control legislation, he pressed forward anyway, hoping to paint ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 17, 13 7:02 PM
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BHO was practically frothing, he was so pissed. It was a beautiful display of temper.
It was glorious to watch on C-Span, Did anyone see Feinstein , I about wet my pants watching her seething and almost incapable of making sentences.
It's a great day in America.

I am sure this will not be the end of this war, but we have won this battle.
We will win the war, the left just doesn't know it yet. Proud to be an American

By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 17, 13 7:06 PM
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At least now when Al Quaida comes we will be ready
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 17, 13 7:14 PM
I would bet that no elected official will lose office because of this. They were afraid of the opposite which is why they voted the way they did.
'90%" was a failed campaign by proponents of gun control.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 17, 13 8:42 PM
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Hey Phil, it's none of your business what wally mart or cost co pay their employees unless you work there. If the emplolyee doesn't like the compensation offerd they are free to explore other options that may better compensate fthem or their SKILLS! Notice the word skills, there are some that are worth a lot to an employer and some that aren't . Hence the minimum wage. Once again being in the public sector, probably represented by a union, this is a foreign concept to you.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 17, 13 7:26 PM
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Ignorance is bliss, and evil rules when good men are ignorant and do nothing to inhibit malfeasance.

Sorry bf, but your existence in your test tube life catering to aristocrats leaves you biased and out of touch with the rest of society who live outside this "playground".

Willful blindness is one thing. Being legally blind from a mental standpoint in the information age is inexcusable.

Apr 17, 13 8:29 PM appended by Mr. Z
"The duty of youth, is to challenge corruption." ~ Kurt Cobain ---- Thank the stars I'm two decades younger than you...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 17, 13 8:29 PM
I raise my hand in your general direction.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 17, 13 8:43 PM
What, I had a question to ask? So defensive these days.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 18, 13 11:00 AM
Boston Bombing Culprits Identified?

I have been looking at these pictures for hours yet they did not make the news all night what are they waiting for. I guess the spin doctors are still re writing history

Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
April 17, 2013

UPDATE: FBI briefing on Boston bombings postponed. The FBI said it “needs more time to prepare” before speaking to the media. Struggling to get their narrative straight in the aftermath of ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 18, 13 12:35 AM
White-Hispanic? Nope, they already used that one. We will be treated to something all new like like Afro-Anglo or Middle-Eastern-Caucasian.

By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 18, 13 6:56 AM
I am not "whippig up" anything just telling you what I am seeing and wondering like the rest of us
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 18, 13 6:29 AM
My initial fear is that this would be found to be domestic, not foreign. Bombing the Boston Marathon, on April 15th no less, smacks of some serious planning.

Don't be too surprised if we find out the culprits were our own.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 18, 13 8:47 PM
Gosnell Employee: I Saw Ten Babies Breathe Before They Were Killed

The final prosecution witness against Kermit Gosnell, the abortion doctor on trial for the capital murder of seven babies and one adult patient, was Kareema Cross, a former employee of Gosnell's. Thursday Cross testified that she saw ten babies breathe before Gosnell killed them.

Absolutely disgusting and evil !
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 18, 13 6:18 PM
Islamic terrorists from Chechnya.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 19, 13 7:01 AM
ISLAMIC CONFIRMRD ...
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 19, 13 10:25 AM
You did not think they where going to be Buddhists from Taiwan did you ?
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 19, 13 10:45 AM
It's been 4238 days since the 9 11 tragedy! Still the left refuses to acknowledge the on going treat of Islamic terrorism and the acts of horror committed by extremists of Islam for religious beliefs & achieving their political agenda. Since 911 Islamic terrorism has taking place in the Mid East, Africa, Europe, Southeast Asia, South Asia, and United States. Islamic terrorist organizations have repeatedly engaged in tactics including suicide attacks, hijackings, kidnapping and recruiting new members ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 19, 13 10:41 AM
REPORT: Dead Bomber had YouTube Links Devoted to Jihadist Mythology

Boston Marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev had a link on his youtube to videos connected to Islamic terrorism.
Apr 19, 13 3:57 PM appended by 27dan
They were likely not right-wing Americans, as some on the left had predicted and hoped.
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 19, 13 3:57 PM
It appears yet again that the progressives have struck out.... Auora Co (Had to be a tea-party member).... Gabby Giffords shooting (Had to be a tea-party member), Boston Bombings Qoute: Cenk Uyger and David Sirota of Al Jezeera run Current tv "Hope he is white and anti-government" You guys keeps praying that one of these events can be linked to the Tea Party that you claim is racists and Violent, but yet each time it is proven to be either a mentally unstable basment dwelling colloge age individual, ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 19, 13 4:41 PM
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By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 19, 13 4:46 PM
In Islam, there is no nation-state, only the Caliphate. You can be a good citizen and you can be a good Muslim, but you cannot be both in a non-Muslim society. The left was absolutely frantic in their efforts to divert blame for the Boston attack away from the usual suspects (Islam) and toward the US. to belive this you must be mentally ill
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 19, 13 6:25 PM
Really how about this for starters, Can we get you on the record that Michael Moore is a complete azz at the very least
Michael Moore: 'Two Americans Bomb Boston Marathon ... RestOfWorldYouAreSafeNow"
Filmmaker Michael Moore has now sounded off on the ongoing situation surrounding suspected Boston Marathon bombers and Muslim terrorists Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his older brother, Tamerlan. Naturally, he blames America:
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 19, 13 8:43 PM
at least they got them those poor people at the race. just terrible
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 19, 13 8:56 PM

The sad part is this wasn't a bad act by a liberal; radical Muslims are as diametrically opposite from liberalism (at least the classic definition of liberalism) as one can get, yet liberals rush to defend and excuse the actions of jihadis at every turn.
The only thing radical Islamists have in common with American liberals is a deep-seated hatred of the United States.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 20, 13 7:23 AM
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MUSLIM TERRORISTS PHIL MUSLIM TERRORISTS!!!!
Why is so hard for you to admit that there are radicals MUSLIMS that are waging war against our country? There's a long list of attacks and attempted attacks thwarted here, 2 world trade center bombings for starters sneaker bomber on a plane, underwear bomber, these two pieces of excrement in Boston. Come on, don't you see a pattern here?! Are you incapable of seeing the truth? Could you also hate the USA with the same passion? HMMM
Where are ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 20, 13 8:10 AM
Hey, bigfool, did you scream "terrorism" when that kid slaughtered 20 children in New Town? Did you scream about religious affiliation after Aurora, Columbine, Oklahoma City, Virginia Tech? Why not? Can terrorism only be carried out by Muslims? The religion of these kids is insignificant. They were disturbed losers who wanted to kill and maim, just like that right-wing "Christian" Timothy McVeigh. You are an ignorant fool, bigfresh. A radical zealot incapable of rational thought. Your reaction ...more
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 20, 13 9:47 AM
Perfectly stated, Hazel! The act of terrorism carried out in New Town was no less heinous, yet extremists like bigfresh did not call for change to gun laws to prevent it from happening again. In fact, they fought against the children on behalf of the terrorist. But now, before the facts are all in, they want answers and solutions because these kids were Muslim? Bigfresh, you want to pick and choose which terrorists to attack and which to defend based on religion, but you lack the courage to support ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Apr 20, 13 10:03 AM
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Bigfresh, don't forget to thank those overpaid, big government, union workers who caught these bastards.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Apr 20, 13 10:20 AM
I think you have really lost it Hazel. The politically correct BS is going to be the death of us. We have had Muslim shoe bomber, underwear bombers, 9/11, the list goes on forever. We even have Muslims declaring war on the US, and you don't think we should profile terrorists. Whenever I travel it has become so stupid that they are searching old ladies, and infants for weapons. They have created fear, and only the small minded won't be fearful. When all the officials are done slapping themselves ...more
By chief1 (1599), southampton on Apr 20, 13 11:18 AM
Hey, Chief, question, how many people were killed ny the shoe bomber? How many killed by the idiot with the shoe? Who radicalized McVeigh? Did the Muslins radicalize the VA tech shooter? Was the New Town murderer a Muslim? How about the kids from Columbine, were they Muslim? Why walerebthese mass murders amy less a form if terrorism than the one's you've mentioned? Because you and your teabagging cohorts don't give a shit how many die unless it was done by a Muslim? Appears that way. This ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Apr 20, 13 5:34 PM
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Peoplefirst, name one common sense solution that would have prevented Newtown. As far as I know, not one has not been presented by ANY of our elected officials.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 20, 13 9:31 PM
You really are a fool aren't you. Did you forget the little incident on 9/11 2001? Remember the nearly 4,000 killed, thousands more injured, and trillions added to the debt to rebuild and revitalize this country? The ironic thing is the islamists hate the liberal ideas of this country, and the liberals are protecting Islamists rights! I remember 9/11 well the liberals like Schumer were yelling for war, and to find these terrorists. The liberals were hiding scared to death, and waiting for Bush to ...more
By chief1 (1599), southampton on Apr 21, 13 10:04 AM
Phil, limiting magazine sizes would have done nothing as the little wacko was adept at changing them out, even when they weren't empty. Remember the Virginai Tech shooter? He only had 10 round mags. Mental health screening , which I believe is absolutely necessary, would have done nothing in this case as he took his mother's guns.

Again I ask, what common sense solution would have prevented Newtown? Then answer is none. You can't prevent crazy.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 21, 13 8:42 PM
How about you head over to Wiki, and take in the "List of terrorist incidents".

You will find that since the beginning of the last century, and even beforehand, groups and individuals have been committing atrocities in the name of whatever they irrationally believe in. Yiou will also find that almost no country is immune to such acts. Be it "God" (the vast majority of the time), or personal agenda terrorism is nothing new. Heck, through the course of the '70's we averaged at least three ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 21, 13 9:04 PM
Phil, these are the types of posts I have come to expect when your position has been bested. You can never show any facts to back of your ridiculous claims. Your bitterness and petty small mindedness always shine through. You accuse others of name calling, hate, etc. but never bring any substance to a debate, instead resorting to the same tactics you pretend to abhor. You are the king of copy and paste but never have an original idea. That is why you will never have the respect of anyone you ...more
Apr 21, 13 11:35 PM appended by dnice
I only had to post it once too.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 21, 13 11:35 PM
Hey Phil the correct term is calling the pot black.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 21, 13 11:52 PM
OK Phil: The attacks at Columbine, Sandy Hook, VA Tech etc. were committed by deranged INDIVIDUALS . The terrorist against our assets abroad and on our soil were committed by animals in the name of a RELIGION, an organized religion. Big difference.There is an organized effort to kill us just because we're Americans , the animals don't care if you're a Republican, Demokrat or Marxist we're infidels and must be converted or killed. Of course we're all outraged and mourn for the victims of all violent ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 21, 13 8:09 AM
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The RADICAL Muslims have declared war on us in case you haven't noticed.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 21, 13 9:56 AM
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Big Fresh, you are really nuts. Sonehow you cannot see the tree for all the forest around you. The way I read Phil's post was just sayin'. He wrote the truth in a very gentle way.
You have more Democrats around you than I do here in Fla. So you might like it better if you moved to The Villages. Just think 90,000 Republicans; and the paper, Sun TV channel and radio are all owned by one family who watch every word just to make sure The Republican word is out there. And there are plenty of Long ...more
By summertime (516), summerfield fl on Apr 21, 13 5:26 PM
Ive been to the Villages it is nice to be around so many patriotic folks who love there country maybe someday I will go back
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 21, 13 6:23 PM
Back in 2008 Boston Mayor Menino gives away city land to the Muslim community so they can build a mosque next to a city park that the mayor says the city will maintain. Now that Mosque is associated with the Muslim Brotherhood and the older Boston Bomber. The older Bomber forces his Christian white middle class "girlfriend/wife" to convert to Islam and dress as he demands or he beats her.( REAL WAR ON WOMEN) The older Bomber is investigated by the FBI on request by the Russian Government because ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 21, 13 10:20 PM
of statements he has made on social media and his website. He runs off to some Wakkistan terror central bootcamp for six months last year leaving his "loving wife" and daughter. Obama declares that Al Qaeda is no longer a threat and the older bomber re-enters the US no questions asked by the FBI. Boston has the largest Chechen Muslim population in the US. Good luck Beantown... Have a Kumbaya politically correct day.

Like you said Dan Facts are Facts!
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 21, 13 10:21 PM
Facts are Facts , You can bet that terrorist sleeper cells are hiding all over the place. It's too late to be concerned over who we let enter our nation,

The enemy is here and the fact that we have the 2nd amendment might just save your life one day.

I was just reading that one of the Marathon bombers You Tube links showed an hour-long speech by an Islamic teacher called Shaykh Feiz Mohammed, while other videos are labled “Terrorists” and “Islam”.
The ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 21, 13 10:11 PM
The radical cleric, encouraged his followers to become martyrs for Islam.

He said: “Teach them this: There is nothing more beloved to me than wanting to die as a mujahid.” This as more than 1,000 FBI operatives were working to track down the cell and arrested a man and two women 60 miles from Boston in the hours before Dzhokhar’s dramatic capture after a bloody shootout on Friday.
A source close to the investigation said: “We have no doubt the brothers were ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 21, 13 10:12 PM
There's an incredible disconnect between the left and reality. The EXTREMIST Muslims are at war with us as evidenced by the terrorist attacks on us in the name of Islam. That's a fact. Not sure why you won't admit this, could it mean that some here agree with the terrorists in principal and see our great nation as deserving some type of punishment? Phil's rants certainly point in that direction, same with Witch Hazel and Progress Now, America haters to the core. Off to work, gotta keep the 1% of ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 22, 13 6:43 AM
I was just reading that one of the Marathon bombers You Tube links showed an hour-long speech by an Islamic teacher called Shaykh Feiz Mohammed, while other videos are labled “Terrorists” and “Islam”.
The ...more radical cleric, encouraged his followers to become martyrs for Islam.

Guess you missed that post

By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 22, 13 9:57 PM
Bigfresh is incapable of rational thought. His mind is so overwhelmed by Fox News talking points and hate of anything he does not understand. He is like any animal - unable to reason he is left with no choice but to thrash against the bars of his cage, screaming about nothing, leaving others to think while he takes the easy way out.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Apr 22, 13 7:30 AM
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Does the NRA and its supporters defend the rights of terrorists to buy guns and ammo? You bet they do.

"The Boston bombing suspects engaged in a deadly firefight with police last week, possessing six bombs, handguns, a rifle and more than 250 rounds of ammunition. But the Tsarnaev brothers did not have proper licenses to possess the firearms, according to the Cambridge Police Department -- a revelation that comes just days after the Senate voted against strengthening and expanding background ...more
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Apr 22, 13 12:50 PM
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Ahh, here comes Captn Crunch with the king of witless, moronic, talking point repsonses.

"Firstly, let’s just establish how insanely stupid your argument is. The very definition of a criminal is someone who breaks the law and commits crime. Criminals break all kinds of laws. They kill, steal, rape, assault, traffic guns or people, drive too fast in the slow lane, drive too slow in the fast lane, don’t register their car on time, under report on their taxes, and the list goes ...more
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 22, 13 1:54 PM
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"HAHAHAHAHA... too funny."

Oh yeah, the whole situation is a freakin' laugh riot. Let's just continue with the status quo because the criminals don't pay attention to the laws. No sense in going after the criminals who sold or gave the weapons to the Tsarnaevs either, right Cap? No sense in making every purchaser go through a background check because if they really want one they can go through a licensed dealer. Do you really find some warped logic in requiring a background check ...more
By VOS (692), WHB on Apr 22, 13 2:44 PM
Edwin Meese, and Ronald Reagan and the hundreds of others who were indicted, resigned, or were criminally convicted in the POTUS' administration wouldn't be the "evil" you speak of, would it?
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 22, 13 8:28 PM
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By chief1 (1599), southampton on Apr 22, 13 3:01 PM
Do I have to deliver the "difference between freedom, and anarchy" post?

Seems like a few people here don't get it...


"As society becomes more civilized, Government—national, State and local government—is called on to assume more obligations to its citizens. The privileges of membership in a civilized society have vastly increased in modern times. But I am afraid we have many who still do not recognize their advantages and want to avoid paying their dues."

~ ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 22, 13 8:20 PM
Cap Said, "Funny how you want answers to the Boston bombing, but not the Benghazi attack !"


BOOM, RIGHT ON THE MONEY!
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 22, 13 9:55 PM
So Phil, I put on my tin foil thinking cap and up with this solution and I am curious if you , P.N and the witch will even answer what I am about to propose.

How about everyone has a box on their drivers license that if checked off means they have passed the de facto background check and are clear to buy a weapon.This would be on everyones DL and not necessarily mean they are looking to buy a weapon.

If they chose they would have to show this to purchase a gun but never have to ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 22, 13 10:21 PM
Frankly I think it should be as difficult to buy a gun, as it is to haul hazardous materials on the road.

The background check for HazMat is thorough for a reason, and so should making sure someone is responsible enough to own a gun. Seems to me they are both equally as dangerous, and have similar potential for harm.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 23, 13 6:32 AM
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I have passed the Haz Mat test first time around really was not that difficult.We have know problem with a back round check the problem comes in when you build a data base of gun owners thats when freedom will truly be lost.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 23, 13 7:05 AM
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You forgot the part about the background check through the FBI, CIA, and NCIC via fingerprinting at the state troopers barracks. And the otherthe thing is it was a necessary freedom in 1770.

Now we have police forces a standing military and even grocery stores. Hunting is no longer required for survival, nor is a militia. And truth be told we kept accurate information on storehouses of weapons and ammunition throughout the Revolutionary War and during the 19th century. Scribe and ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 23, 13 8:24 AM
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Common sense never applies to you people... kinda of like how when I called up last week to inquire why a police officer can drive without a seat belt. The Police Dept. told me that police take a " spacial drivers coarse that teaches them skills that exempt them from wearing a seat belt but when I inquired about where I could take this coarse they could not give me an answer!
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 22, 13 10:30 PM
I fail to see the humor in what Joe said,

Do you find government restriction of your personal liberty's funny? The seat belt law is unconstitutional and a perfect example of how the gun restriction will work.

I am old enough to remember with clarity how outraged the public was (At least the men) about the notion of the government mandating that you would have to use a seat belt while driving or be fined.

They passed the law but did not enforce it for about 5 years. Even ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 23, 13 9:47 AM
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Phil said, "I've passed both background checks and mental competency tests"

Too bad he cant get past the S.H.P ombudsman. He must have agreed with you Dan but all the red ink makes it hard to know for sure.
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 23, 13 1:30 PM
You have no constitutional right to drive. Any driving we do is a privilege, and as such that privilege is regulated by the state. (in the case of seatbelts, it is really the insurance companies tell the politicos what to do)
By But I'm a blank! (952), Hampton Bays on Apr 23, 13 4:10 PM
Yes, at least I do , But I also believe they should have the right to raise speed limits, set their own cell phone, seat belt laws and DWI limits without fear of lose of funding from the feds. The 10th amendment should not be compromised
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 23, 13 6:53 PM
Except for that pesky 2nd Amendment
By But I'm a blank! (952), Hampton Bays on Apr 23, 13 8:27 PM
Witch , Pro Now et al: It's amazing that none of you can see that radical Muslims have attacked us an are planning more violence. Did you see the report about the Royal Canadian Mounted Police arresting two Al Queda funded terrorists who planned to de-rail a passenger train between Canada and the US? There's no racism or bigotry in pointing out the facts. Why are you folks unable to call a spade a spade? Most Muslims are peacefull law abiding people, the RADICALS among them are the problem.
...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 23, 13 7:04 AM
The way I see it it is the inability for the " peaceful law abiding Muslims" to publicly denounce the actions of the radicals.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 23, 13 7:09 AM
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B.F. Asked "Could he have been radicalized by going to school in Boston surrounded by America hating liberal teachers and professors"

Right on point! I think we all know the answer to that is a big YES!
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 23, 13 1:34 PM
Most morons like BF and his teabagging compadres are, of course, anti-intellectual. They hate thinking people. Blame their radicalization on top quality education? You guys are truly idiots of a degree not usually seen outside of the deep south.

Terrorists succeed beyond their dreams when jackasses like you respond with such stupidity.
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 23, 13 2:54 PM
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Just smart enough to run the machinery, but not quite enough to pull the wool of their eyes...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 23, 13 6:11 PM
Carney: Internet Sales Tax "Is Simply About Leveling The Playing Field"

QUESTION: Does the President support legislation allowing states to require Internet retailers to collect sales taxes? And if that were to pass, would he sign that into law?

JAY CARNEY: We believe that the Marketplace Fairness Act will level the playing field for local small business retailers who are undercut every day by out-of state on line companies. Today, while local small business retailers follow ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 23, 13 10:04 AM
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We need a fair in understand will financial system. you know that darn well.

I don't think this is something I would rant about that thanks for the credit. I remember being in Pennsylvania and plopping down 3 20 dollar bills for a $59.99 pair of Nikes. The change was one penny.

Try that here. I think that if they're going to tax necessities, then that means the state doesn't consider them such and in such case we should all be allowed to run about naked as we please.
Apr 23, 13 10:57 AM appended by Mr. Z
"fair and understandable financial system" Dang speech to text. Gee, a sect of the population "playing by different rules". There's a shocker in America...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 23, 13 10:57 AM
27 East has become nothing more than a teabagger bath house. A haven for the looniest that Long Island has to offer.
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 23, 13 2:56 PM
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oh really witch, i am new here but a quick check revels you have been singing the same tune for years, so save it for the teachers lounge.


Kabot: Throne-Holst Contributions Violated New York State Election Law
You are absolutely right on, Razza. I would never have voted for throne-holst before Kabot jumped in. I visit these boards infrequently because they are over run by right wing zealots and it is certainly no surprise that they support this failed former supervisor. I wish ...more
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 23, 13 9:50 PM
We've been attacked on multiple occasions by RADICAL Muslims. FACT

Multiple terrorist plots by RADICAL Muslims have been discovered and thwarted. FACT

RADICAL Muslims preach hatred and jihad (holy war) against the USA, FACT

Why does the left refuse to face the FACT that there is a war being waged against us?
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 23, 13 4:28 PM
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Might I interject a query?

How many innocent lives have been destroyed, or ended for the war on "radical muslims"?

Far too many. Don't mind breaking a few eggs, unless you're the egg in question, right?
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 24, 13 4:20 PM
The facts are the Muslim extremists are the biggest terrorist risk to this country. That is a fact not a far right idea.
By chief1 (1599), southampton on Apr 23, 13 4:39 PM
we should profile whoever is a probable threat, that is how Israels airlines have had such a small occurrence of terror plots succeed. I dated a man from greece and when we flew to europe the tsa screened him hard and we were both ok with that since we felt safer flying that day.
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 23, 13 7:04 PM
Breaking News - - - Congressional report concluded that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton was responsible for cutting security at the consulate in Benghazi ahead of last year’s attack there, and that the administration lied about why it downplayed terrorism as the cause of the assault.

A new report — the result of months of investigation by five different House committees — says there was plenty of intelligence that presaged the attack, but the State Department ...more
Apr 23, 13 6:46 PM appended by They call me
CHARLES KRAUTHAMMER: I say I don't know what he is thinking, but I sure know what he is saying and doing. The lengths to which he will go to avoid telling us the truth about the enemy is becoming comical, it's certainly embarrassing. For example, he will never -- forget about the word jihadist, he'll never use that. But he refuses to use the word Islamist which is used throughout the Muslim world. It's used by journalists, authors, on the street, in the parliament, everywhere, in Egypt, it's used in Lebanon, it's used everywhere by Muslims. And yet, Obama won't touch it because he refuses to use any words that might imply a connection between radical Islam and terrorism, which as anybody who is over the age of 9 knows is the single greatest cause of terror in the world today.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 23, 13 6:46 PM
Thanks for your response Phil. More proof that the left doesn't have the testicular fortitude to call Islamic terrorism by name. Absolutely pitiful, not surprising , just pitiful. Next time a bomb goes off blame your president, He won't admit we're under attack either.
As to credibility, you have quoted from the Huffington Post, Daily Kos and the grandmother of all propoganda rags the New York Times, no credibility for you!
As to profiling: The majority of terrorism has beem committed ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 24, 13 6:39 AM
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Now the Boston bomber is in real trouble exposeing Islamist motive,
It is one thing for Dzhokhar Tsarnaev to be seen on security camera videos placing one of the bombs that killed three people at last week's Boston Marathon. But now he's really crossed a line.

Tsarnaev is telling investigators he and his brother were motivated by religion to plot their carnage, media reports citing anonymous federal sources say.

Radical Islam. It's a label banned by the obama administration. ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 24, 13 11:18 AM
Brillian article from the Guardian

f only Americans reacted the same way to the actual threats that exist in their country. There's something quite fitting and ironic about the fact that the Boston freak-out happened in the same week the Senate blocked consideration of a gun control bill that would have strengthened background checks for potential buyers. Even though this reform is supported by more than 90% of Americans, and even though 56 out of 100 senators voted in favour of it, the ...more
By witch hazel (214), tatooine on Apr 24, 13 10:53 AM
90 % LOL, The defeat of which is certain to be used as a political football in the coming days,weeks and months since we learned this morning that the two terrorist brothers responsible for Monday’s Boston Marathon Bombing Attack were involved in a running gun fight with Police last night. As well as the vow by The President to resort to executive fiat to dictate that which he could not achieve via the vote in Congress.

90 percent of 300 million plus Citizens really support expanded ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 24, 13 11:10 AM
Yeah Cap, that damn "gun toting" Harry Reid.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 26, 13 1:16 PM
Witch Hazel a few lines up you said "Most morons like BF and his teabagging compadres are, of course, anti-intellectual. They hate thinking people.

Going on to say... you and your band of merry men with quality education where Superior? Phil works at a school and has stated "I've passed both background checks and mental competency tests"

Yet look at the 7 year old mentality in this from above :

Teabaggers know all about testicles.
By philathome (4897), Southampton ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 24, 13 11:03 AM
uh excuse me sir, I was talking to Witch Hazel or maybe you one and the same ?
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 24, 13 1:42 PM
made me laugh
Apr 24, 13 2:45 PM appended by Erin 27 E
the part about a 7 year old mentality, maybe he teaches the second grade
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 24, 13 2:45 PM
Update, And just disgusting .............

Media Matters Ignores Gosnell Grand Jury to Defend Planned Parenthood

Media Matters for America accused Breitbart News and Rush Limbaugh of falsely accusing Planned Parenthood of hiding the horrific crimes at Kermit Gosnell’s abortion clinic. In doing so, they ignore grand jury testimony that Planned Parenthood did fail to report Gosnell to authorities.
The senior fellows at MMfA need to read and take a closer look at the grand ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 24, 13 2:57 PM
Way to avoid the facts there Phil, playground taunts and insults are a pizz poor excuse for a debate. Terrorism exists.
As for the abortionist,you are a disgrace to the human race.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 24, 13 6:27 PM
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How many innocent lives have been destroyed, or ended for the war on "radical muslims"?

Far too many. Don't mind breaking a few eggs, unless you're the egg in question, right?
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 24, 13 7:45 PM
How about radical Christians?

Do the Crusades ring a bell? Or the Spanish Inquisition? How about witch hunts? Or maybe the destruction of pagan (Roman/Greek) temples, or the complete removal of their rights in the 6th century? How about Hypatia of Alexandria? Or the genocidal Italian explorer Christopher Columbus? Pizarro? Cortes?

How many lives have been ended by radical "Christians"?

At least fifteen centuries worth...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 4:03 AM
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Apples and oranges Mr. Z , apples and oranges. When , in the name of Christianity, was the last attack on the US? IN THE NAME OF JESUS BECAUSE OF A BIBLE QUOTATION!
Why can't the left admit that there is minority of Muslims waginy holy war (jihad) agaist the USA? The facts are there but still the left wants to deflect attention from the reason for the attacks.
Your liberal public school indoctrination is starting to show around the edges, Genocidal Italian explorer Columbus. He came ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 25, 13 6:56 AM
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For your information he did exterminate at least three different tribes of indigenous people. Columbus came in search of wealth and riches for the monarchy of Spain. True to their abhorrence of physical labor, he and his men behaved liike savages slaving out, maiming, and killing the natives either indiscriminately, or because they did not mine them enough gold. And wasn't Timothy McVeigh a Christian?

" Liberal education"? At least I have an education of some sort. Your ignorance is ...more
Apr 25, 13 11:18 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, I'd skip the Washington Irving version, since it's complete and total bull****.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 11:18 AM
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By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 25, 13 4:26 PM
And, it would seem you have so quickly forgotten about the Sikh temple massacre in Wisconsin. Six people were killed by a white supremacist. There's nothing quite like the volatile mix of Christian Identity, and bullets...
Apr 25, 13 4:48 PM appended by Mr. Z
I mean, have you read the Old Testament? Leviticus, Dueteronomy, EXODUS?? The list of what offenses did not warrant death is a far shorter list. A great many of those who became "Christian" still followed the Old Testament, in addtion to creating the "New" one. Those who fail to learn from history...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 4:48 PM
Dan Said "WTF cares what happened 600 years ago? are you even in the same conversation? Sometimes I wonder,

We are talking about your inability to face the fact the radical Islam seems to have declared war on the US. and the Muslim community in whole as well as the media, Phil and the POTUS seems incapable of admitting and denouncing that FACT! "

Seems the SHP maybe too! what is the problem with that statement MR. Editor



By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 25, 13 5:03 PM
Maybe you should have left out the Blank

Dan Said " BLANK cares what happened 600 years ago? are you even in the same conversation? Sometimes I wonder,

We are talking about your inability to face the fact the radical Islam seems to have declared war on the US. and the Muslim community in whole as well as the media, Phil and the POTUS seems incapable of admitting and denouncing that FACT! "

Seems the SHP maybe too! what is the problem with that statement MR. Editor

By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 25, 13 5:10 PM
The point which escapes each of you is that in over two millenia "Humanity" has not changed. Only the backdrop has. So we have a television, instead of the forum, or The Globe. Whoopee.

And for reference, there is actually a website called "Islam Denounces Terrorism". They have spoken out repeatedly condemning violence.

You all just fail to listen.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 6:20 PM
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Phil siad " Much of what you people post is just from fox "news" for idiots"
By philathome (4920), Southampton on Apr 24, 13 7:16 AM

Huffpost said / Poll: Fox Most Believable; CNN Least Believable
A new poll taken by Huffpost/YouGov reports that of all six cable and broadcast news outlets, CNN ranked at the top of networks considered the least believable during the almost non-stop coverage of the Boston Marathon bombing and the intense 5-day manhunt that followed. Fox News, on ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 25, 13 4:47 PM
Nice Gumshoe work there Dan... Game, Set, Match on that one.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 25, 13 4:58 PM
Timothy McVeigh didn't kill in the name of Jesus he was a deranged individual sent over the edge by the massacre at the Branch Dividian compound. White Supremecists don't commit acts of terror in the name of Christianity, The Muslim terrorists kill in the name of Allah, apples and oranges Mr. Z, come on , you're better than this, how can you deny that radical Muslims are at war with us. The European explorers that came to te New World didn't come here with the express purpose of exterminating ...more
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 25, 13 5:00 PM
I don't deny radical Muslims claim Jihad in our regard. You'd just rather claim that I do so you can feel better inside. I learned what Jihad is in 10th grade World History. For reference, the early explorers actually did come here to subjugate the native peoples, slave them out, so as to take their precious metal, and mineral wealth all the while using them to do it. Remember, war has always been expensive (as the most recent generation of America has discovered) and Spain required some serious ...more
Apr 25, 13 5:48 PM appended by Mr. Z
And for the record, Jesus didn't believe in killing. At all. So, it's highly unlikely you would find such an occurence. The Christian, or Muslim "God" on the other hand...
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 5:48 PM
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I have reserched this since yesterday and I now agree!

We need to go to a national sales tax..

But, the problem with a national sales tax is that politicians could no longer pay their targeted voters with tax law manipulation. there is not 70,000+ pages of tax code for nothing folks!

It is simply unproductive to work more hours and get paid less per hour because your income taxes increase. It is hard enough competing against folks from India and Russia for programming ...more
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 25, 13 5:45 PM
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I think you mean modern "Liberal Progressive".

Those of us who are big fans of Teddy Roosevelt, ain't such a type. Just like the words Democrat, and Republican, they have not meant the same thing over the course of 236 years. You should look into that too. I also would encourage you to look into the original corporate charter system which existed before the Civil War, "borers" (lobbyists), and the 14th Amendment. Corporations had NO place whatsoever in civic life before the 1860's.

Those ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 5:55 PM
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Mr. Z Said "I don't deny radical Muslims claim Jihad in our regard"




Bla Bla Bla somthing Bla Bla Bla
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 25, 13 5:51 PM
Find a quote to support your arguement, otherwise the only babble is yours.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 5:56 PM
The answer to your trivia question is / Paul Revere,

Here is one for you

Who was born Sept 1, 1968 in a small town in Egypt's Nile Delta moved with his family to the Abdeen section of Cairo at the age of 10 then went on to study architecture at Cairo University, graduating in 1990, and continued his studies in Hamburg, Germany at the Technical University of Hamburg. In Hamburg, then became involved with the al-Quds Mosque, where he met Marwan al-Shehhi, Ramzi bin al-Shibh, ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 25, 13 6:21 PM
No, it wasn't.

Paul Revere rode twenty miles to Cambridge. Israel Bissell rode 350 miles to sound the alarm across the colonies. But, yet again the history which America fabricated has come to rule the day. Nothing Longfellow, or Irving wrote was in any way historically accurate.

And no, I don't know the hijacker's name. Nor do I care to. The only thing which should be recorded is the act, and the name should be dead to history.
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 6:31 PM
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TCM, It seems Mr z can name all the players from theaters of war from hundreds of years ago, but turns a blind eye to the events of today. The name you are looking for is Mohammad Atta. Anyone who watched that morning would know that.
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 25, 13 6:45 PM
Pardon me, I was at work on the road in a truck with no radio that Tuesday. I found out what happened when I had to go in and was fixing a flat on the dualie wheels of the work truck.

My cousin walked up to me and said "you were right". I said "what?", and he said "you were right. Remember when you said why you don't fly?". I said "yeah, because it's a weapon."

"Well, a plane just hit the World Trade Center". I ask "what, a Cessna?". He says, "no. A 767."

But thanks ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 7:21 PM
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hear is a trivia fo you

Who is fubdamtaly changing the country
Holla

Yes We Did !
By local 84 (174), riverhead on Apr 25, 13 7:48 PM
You left off the part where Atta was investigated and interviewed by the Joint Terrorism Task Force but the investigation was not followed up despite FBI urging because of intransigence in the administration at that time, not because a foreign government did not provide sufficient information.
By VOS (692), WHB on Apr 26, 13 4:33 PM
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I hear people saying we don't need this war
But, I say there's some things worth fighting for
What about our freedom and this piece of ground
We didn't get to keep 'em by backing down
They say we don't realize the mess we're getting in
Before you start your preaching let me ask you this my friend

Have you forgotten how it felt that day?
To see your homeland under fire
And her people blown away
Have you forgotten when those towers fell?
We had neighbors ...more
Apr 25, 13 6:48 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Have you forgotten - Darryl Worley
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 25, 13 6:48 PM
it's a commonly held misconception, but the Quran does not, in fact, call for all Muslims to kill or convert all non-Muslims. You are probably confusing this with the passage that says to "kill them wherever you find them", but you are missing out the crucial qualifier to this, which is "those who fight you". So essentially what it says is if they attack you, kill them - I don't think many people would take odds with that.

By local 84 (174), riverhead on Apr 25, 13 7:42 PM
Actually, he did hide "in plain sight".

A few of the things which tipped off the CIA were the high walls of the compound, the barbed wire, no phone or internet, burning of garbage on site, their children did not attend school, and the fact that the families in the compound not only were associates of bin Laden, but were living far beyond their means and went by assumed names. When they communicated with family (they were under surveillance) not only did they lie about where they were, ...more
By Mr. Z (6944), North Sea on Apr 25, 13 11:29 PM
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The Media Matters Frenzy to Discredit Breitbart's Pigford Investigation
Using their own search engine, you can find at least twenty stories written by the Soros-funded, 501 (c)(3) welfare queens at Media Matters for America that were explicitly meant to discredit Andrew Breitbart's investigative efforts into what became known as Pigford -- a four-alarm scandal involving the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
Friday morning, Breitbart's cause on behalf of those black farmers who had been legitimately ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 26, 13 4:31 PM
“NYTimes Confirms: Massive Fraud at USDA in Pigford; Breitbart Vindicated,” blared the headline

Conservative bloggers cheered The New York Times on Friday for a 5,000-word investigative report dissecting abuse of a federal program to compensate farmers who had faced discrimination that writers on the right said vindicated the work of one of their icons — the late Andrew Breitbart.

“Today Andrew Breitbart is smiling, and probably amazed,” the Washington ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 26, 13 8:19 PM
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What you really mean, Phil, is that Breitbart started out as a leftist, realized he was wrong, and did an about-face, only to expose the crime and corruption on the left that he knew so intimately. That REALLY stings, doesn't it?
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 26, 13 8:24 PM
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A Douche that was Vindicated By the N.Y. SLIMES doesn't get any better than that Joe.

I will sleep with a smile tonight :)
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 26, 13 8:33 PM
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A small victory every now and then is good for the soul. But a victory that sticks it to Soros is that much sweeter. I suppose I will fall asleep with a smile as well... Good night my friend

You too Andrew...
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 26, 13 8:39 PM
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Kind of like the balance of your posts Phil.
By dnice (1536), Hampton Bays on Apr 26, 13 8:58 PM
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Local 84 You are correct in your quotation from the Q'oran But the animals that have attacked civilian targets are radicals and have twisted the words to fit their twisted idealogy, they've also converted a bunch of animals to their twisted view of Islam.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on Apr 26, 13 7:00 AM
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Erin Said , "I have reserched this since yesterday and I now agree!

We need to go to a national sales tax..

But, the problem with a national sales tax is that politicians could no longer pay their targeted voters with tax law manipulation. there is not 70,000+ pages of tax code for nothing folks!

It is simply unproductive to work more hours and get paid less per hour because your income taxes increase. It is hard enough competing against folks from India and Russia for ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 26, 13 3:02 PM
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Pigford Was About Buying Votes

Even the New York Times has trouble getting Department of Justice officials to speak on record on the story. The Times says, "Acting Associate Attorney General Tony West, who supervised the civil division and oversaw the handling of the cases, canceled an interview. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. also declined to comment."

This 2008 article from the San Francisco Chronicle profiles Tony West, who was then the California finance co-chair for the ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 27, 13 9:29 AM
I do not understand what this Pigford thing is about
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 28, 13 3:22 PM
Read
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 28, 13 6:01 PM
Read this in the headline today,

Sympathy for Tsarnaev:

It seemed as though the NY Times was lamentings Tamerlan's fleeting boxing career,

If the New York Times wants to know why their readership has plummeted in recent years, it's largely because of stories like this, in which the Times tells an exculpatory sob story about Tamerlan Tsarnaev murdering and maiming people at the Boston Marathon ... thanks to supposedly xenophobic boxing rules. Seriously ?
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 28, 13 3:10 PM
You must be joking dan that can't be for real.
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 28, 13 3:21 PM
GREAT NEWS ! A development that is a true cause for CELEBRATION. By July, the Twinkie, and other favorite Hostess brands will return to store shelves. Two investment companies bought assets of the bankrupt snack company and plan to re-open four plants and hire 1,500 workers in the coming weeks. Labor unions, however, will NOT be invited back!
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 28, 13 5:38 PM
With the crooked unions out of the way maybe we can get a little more cream back in the Ding Dongs I would love if they went back to the old days when they had a thick hard layer or chocolate twice the cream filling each one individually wrapped in foil
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 28, 13 5:38 PM
Not this time my Brown Shirted nemesis, I think the hard working self mad men have been burned and will not be sticking there hand back in that fire for a generation.
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 29, 13 3:08 PM
Agreed ... lol , Let them eat snack cake.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 29, 13 3:15 PM
Regan had the right idea. Go back to work or get replaced.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 30, 13 1:21 PM
WOW everyone please take a moment and go over to Real Clear Politics, go to the video section and watch "Judge Jeanine Pirro Slams Jihad Mom: Lady, You Shouldn't Be Allowed Here" Wow does she nail it!

Hats off to you Jeanine you monologue should be repeated on every channel on TV for a week, WOW!
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on Apr 28, 13 5:58 PM
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you are right she said what she said very well
By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 30, 13 11:09 PM
UD , Just watched it, Thank you, It was great!

Right on the money!
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 28, 13 9:26 PM
Unions are no longer a necessary part of the business world. I can agree that workers were treated poorly in the past and that unions helped workers. The unfortunate fact is that unions no longer protect workers, but rather only punish companies and hold labor hostage. Unions drive costs up at the detriment of American competitiveness, they are Anti-American and have outgrown there indented use... serving now only as a political tool mainly the extorting lobby of the radical progressive left. Days ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 29, 13 3:35 PM
If you do not like your job in America you are always free to quit and find a different one. If you were a good employee that would be the employers loss and they would learn a lesson that they lost a valuable part of the company.It was the greed of the hostess bakers union that brought down the quality of the product and finally the company. Non of my employees are complaining and most have been with me 10 years or more.

Where I spend my winters is my business and yes the daily traffic ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on Apr 30, 13 1:36 AM
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You have been brain washed by MSNBC
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 30, 13 11:00 PM
The best thing you can do is nothing. Let the labor organize, and then refuse to settle at the negotiation table. There is no law saying you must settle. Reach an impasse quickly and let the workers go on strike. Then call in non-union workers to work until the union gives up and goes away.

Coors Beer was on strike for 40 yrs. It didn't slow Coors down at all. They immediately replaced the striking workers and continued with business as usual. And Coors was protected from another union ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 1, 13 7:36 PM
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When asked today by ABC News Chief White House Correspondent about second term failures, President Barack Obama responded by saying, "Maybe I should just pack up and go home. Golly."

I can help him pack, "Eat your Peas"

JON KARL: Mr. President, you are one hundred days into your second term. On the gun bill, you did everything you could to get it passed, obviously it didn't. Everyone is ignoring your efforts to try to get an undo of the Sequester. your Benghazi story is falling ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on Apr 30, 13 1:38 PM
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The most destructive Obama care tax increases are just around the bend

Just wait until the middle class sees what they have done to themselves and this country!
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on Apr 30, 13 10:57 PM
here is some good news, the florida state senate tuesday unanimously passed a bill that would provide medical care and legal protection for babies who are born alive following failed abortions.
the bill requires that infants born alive be immediately transported to the nearest hospital and provided appropriate medical treatment that is equal to treatment given to any other infant following natural birth.

thank god the people are slowly coming to there senses!

By Erin 27 E (375), southampton on Apr 30, 13 11:07 PM
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Last week, the Times devoted 5500 words to an in-depth investigation into what came to be known as Pigford; a cynically-conceived wealth-redistribution scheme that used racial guilt to leverage a shakedown of the American taxpayer for billions of dollars. It was a plot conceived by leftists, made possible by Democratic lawmakers, and encouraged and expanded with the help of Senator, and eventually, President Obama.

And besides the taxpayers, who else got screwed? The black farmers who really ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 1, 13 7:58 PM
The employer is under no obligation to deal with a union. If the workers start to organize they can be terminated Komrade. As stated above, if a worker isn't satisfied with their employment situation they are free to take their skills elsewhere. Most companies value their employees, labor is key to a business' success, as long as the cost of that labor doesn't prelude making a profit. Yes profit, that word hated by the uber leftists.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on May 2, 13 7:05 AM
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The best thing you can do is nothing. Let the labor organize, and then refuse to settle at the negotiation table. There is no law saying you must settle. Reach an impasse quickly and let the workers go on strike. Then call in non-union workers to work until the union gives up and goes away.

Coors Beer was on strike for 40 yrs. It didn't slow Coors down at all. They immediately replaced the striking workers and continued with business as usual. And Coors was protected from another union ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 2, 13 9:28 PM
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I don't think Mr red ink liked your view on unions but I loved it.
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on May 2, 13 10:23 PM
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Shame on you Mr Fresh, You cant keep what you worked so hard for. Its not fair you are so ambitious. You have to redistribute that hard earned wealth. Don't you know the Stateists need Taxes... Uhh I mean... Revenue
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on May 2, 13 10:27 PM
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Like TCM said the best way to deal with that is,

Do nothing. Let the labor organize, and then refuse to settle at the negotiation table. There is no law saying you must settle. Reach an impasse quickly and let the workers go on strike. Then call in non-union workers to work until the union gives up and goes away.

Coors Beer was on strike for 40 yrs. It didn't slow Coors down at all. They immediately replaced the striking workers and continued with business as usual. And Coors ...more
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on May 3, 13 6:57 PM
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If we are guilty of association then obummer is as well and man o man does he have a lot of them. Everyone goggle obama associations and watch the slot machine of a list scroll down your screen.
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 3, 13 8:04 PM
Watching the Pigford story come back to life this week has been truly uplifting.The admission by the New York Times and the deafening silence that has followed from left wing media complex has been a blast to witness, It has invigorated and vindicated the right and given us the strength us to carry on the fight against big government tyranny.

By They call me (1229), southampton on May 2, 13 1:35 PM
Spoken like someone who has no idea how business works. Re-read my post, I say that labor is crucial to the success of a business, as long as the cost doesn't preclude making a profit. As to unions, a business owner is under no obligation to deal with one. No way in this sweet wide world would I allow the workers to dictate their compensation, productivity or hours. Here's the job, take it or leave it.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on May 3, 13 6:51 AM
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Senate Budget Committee ranking member Sen. Jeff Sessions estimates about 57 million new people, immigrants and people with nonimmigrant visas, will be entering the United States to compete with middle class Americans for their jobs if the immigration bill Obama wants passes.

Is anyone paying attention to what is going on here?
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on May 3, 13 7:01 PM
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WHY TO GO O !
Obama today blames U.S. for gun smuggling In Mexico; No mention of Fast and Furious!
Amazing!
May 3, 13 8:00 PM appended by They call me
WAY TO GO O !
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 3, 13 8:00 PM
Colin Ferguson
Jared Loughner
James Holmes
Adam Lanza
Major Nidal Hassan
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev
Anders Behring Breivik

All should have been locked up long before they snapped but the left shut down all the insane asylums because of political correctness. Lets start with the real problem hand guns on our streets, jihadists who hate America and mental patients
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 4, 13 6:05 PM
At the National Rifle Association's convention in Houston, TX, NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre announced that the NRA has now grown to an unprecedented 5 million active members. He concluded his speech with the theme of all the NRA officers, vowing, “From liberty’s defense, we will never back down.
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 4, 13 10:38 PM
Folks from the South refer to the Civil War that way Phil, your bias is showing again. Folks in Vietnam call the war there the American War. Still the same conflict just called by a different name by the opposing sides. You are miopic in your vision of the world, not everyone is a northeast liberal living on the government teat.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on May 5, 13 7:01 AM
Well I know what he was referring to. Your a progressive taker.
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on May 5, 13 6:25 PM
Answer, 16,836,551,109,911
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 5, 13 11:36 PM
Developing,

Mark I. Thompson will testify that Hillary Clinton "tried to cut the department's own counter-terrorism bureau out of the chain of reporting and decision-making" as they responded to the Benghazi attacks.
Thompson is a former Marine and the current deputy coordinator for operations in the agency's counter terrorism bureau. He will appear before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday to testify about the Benghazi attacks.

Fox News is also reporting that ANOTHER ...more
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 6, 13 9:28 AM
If the editor intends this inane thread to be immortal, he should at least change the headline to be descriptive of the comments. "Republican Onanism" would be most apt.
By highhatsize (2376), East Quogue on May 6, 13 12:32 PM
Whats the matter hat you upset you cant bury your head in the sand and cloister yourself of in this bastion of pompous liberal stench called the Hampton's.
By They call me (1229), southampton on May 6, 13 2:07 PM
Perhaps, "Local Republicans React to Election NIght Onanism", would be an even more appropriate headline. Here they were sure that they were but moments from consummation - - - and then - - - S-O-R-R-R-E-E-E-E-!!

They just can't stop talking about how they're doin' it, irrespective of the fact that they never HAVE succeeded in doin' it (for the same reason that some high schoolers talk incessantly of their potency and prowess.)

That's all this absurd thread has become.
By highhatsize (2376), East Quogue on May 6, 13 2:44 PM
You accuse locale republicans of Onanism, but on the contrary I see it as being proactive and useful, someone must educate the public on what the main stream media chooses to ignore so not to tarnish there boy!
Like how you can bet the farm that right now the media are looking at the results of the bombshell report Sharyl Attkisson of CBS News just dropped and are already coordinating a way to downplay, ignore, or discredit what looks to be a very serious White House scandal that almost certainly ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (855), southampton on May 6, 13 4:48 PM
Carefull there U D , the Regime will not tolerate any disagreement. The very idea the you disagree with Him, Barak the Munificent, peace be upon Him, means that you are a racist.
The Bengazi coverup will be the beginning of the end for Barry and company, even their lapdogs in the main stream media are turning on Him, took long enough, but this is too much to ignore. Via con Dios Barry Soetoro.
By bigfresh (1507), north sea on May 6, 13 5:29 PM
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Sounds good BF, but I think the MSM has proved time after time after time when it comes to Barry Soetoro AKA Barak Hussein Obama ...

Nothing is too much to ignore
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on May 6, 13 10:27 PM
TCM SAID "Watching the Pigford story come back to life this week has been truly uplifting.The admission by the New York Times and the deafening silence that has followed from left wing media complex has been a blast to witness, It has invigorated and vindicated the right and given us the strength us to carry on the fight against big government tyranny"

It took the left a week to figure out how to attack the New York Times after of the paper of record published a front-page investigative ...more
By joe hampton (2023), south hampton on May 6, 13 10:31 PM
CNN's Home Page: Limo Fire, Jodi Arias, Amanda Knox
There may be some mention in one of the tiny little headline-crawls of Benghazi. I didn't see it. I'm looking at the big links. Limo Fire, Jodi Arias, Amanda Knox.* No Gosnell (even though his jury is deliberating)
By 27dan (1207), Southampton on May 6, 13 11:43 PM
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