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Apr 21, 2015 11:18 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Blasts Obama For Putting Politics Before Policy In Iran Nuclear Talks

Apr 21, 2015 11:18 AM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin addressed members of the House last week, spelling out his concerns regarding President Barack Obama’s treaty negotiations with the Iranian Government. Mr. Zeldin warned that the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action they have agreed upon is flimsy because Mr. Obama has not taken a more aggressive approach.

“You are the leader of the free world,” he said, speaking directly to the president. “Act like it.”

On Friday, however, Mr. Zeldin said he was pleased to learn that a Senate committee voted to give Congress the ability to vote on the potential nuclear deal after a June 30 negotiation deadline.

Last November, the European Union, Iran, and the P5+1—which represents five members of the UN Security Council, China, France, Russia, the United Kingdom, and the United States—plus Germany, created the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, which is meant to prevent Iran from building a nuclear weapon.

On April 2, the White House released a fact sheet detailing a framework for an agreement on Iran’s nuclear capabilities, which is still subject to change. The framework aims to reduce Iran’s uranium enrichment program and introduce an International Atomic Energy Agency inspections program, while at the same time allowing Iran to redesign and rebuild a research reactor based on an agreed upon design, which would not produce weapons grade plutonium needed for nuclear weapons. Relief from certain sanctions would be given to Iran only if Iran takes all the agreed upon steps, but U.S. sanctions for terrorism, human rights abuses and ballistic missiles would remain in place under the deal.

Mr. Zeldin said it was of the utmost importance that Congress be able to approve the deal this summer.

“The devil is going to be in the details,” he said on Friday. “Congress has an important role to play that the White House is now acknowledging more than ever. We have to review the details themselves to ensure that this is a good deal for the American people.”

From Mr. Zeldin’s view, Iran has not agreed to anything up to this point. Instead, its leadership is talking about “death to America,” according to Mr. Zeldin, and has a different perspective on the talks.

“One of the things that is clear to me was agreed to at the negotiating table weeks back,” he said. “Both sides were going to go back to their home countries and spin exactly where they were in the talks to whatever best serves their own domestic politics.”

Earlier this month, Iran’s Foreign Minister Hassan Rouhani took to his Twitter account and posted statements describing his distrust in the negotiations.

“I trust our negotiators, but I’m really worried as the other side is into lying and breaching promises; an example was [the] White House fact sheet,” he wrote.

Mr. Zeldin said Mr. Obama has also been hypocritical in his approach, excusing Iran’s leadership from threatening speech and being critical of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the lack of viability of his two-state solution to the on-going Israeli–Palestinian conflict. Still, the president has not taken a strong-arm approach to Iran, according to Mr. Zeldin.

“Iran is not negotiating in good faith and they smell American weakness and not American strength,” he said during his speech. “The Obama administration believes the only option is to cut a deal just to cut a deal. This president should instead, with strength and courage, as the leader of the free world, be bringing Iranians to their knees. That’s what strength looks like.”

The Iranian government is not one to mess with, according to Mr. Zeldin. Not only has Iran blown up mock USS warships and worked on intercontinental ballistic missiles, the government has “successfully worked to overthrow the government in Yemen and they are working with the Syrians to complicate our challenges in that country,” he said. “As you look around the map of the Middle East and elsewhere, it’s easy to draw the conclusion that Iran is literally the worst state sponsor of terrorism in the entire world.”

Not only is Mr. Zeldin concerned about the position a wrong move could take on the U.S., but about Israel’s position in the Middle East. He said a bad deal with Iran would be worse than no deal at all because it could more easily trigger a nuclear arms race.

“Other countries in the Middle East for their own protection will be forced to ramp up their efforts to pursue nuclear capabilities if a bad deal is struck between the U.S. and Iran,” he said. “There are other options, other than any deal or war. The economy is doing so poorly in Iran that we really have more leverage than the president is giving himself credit for, and it needs to be used as productively as possible.”

Negotiations are resuming this week.

Zeldin Supports Compensation Act

Mr. Zeldin last Tuesday joined with a bipartisan group of Congressional representatives to introduce and sponsor the reauthorization of the World Trade Center Health Program and the September 11th Victim Compensation Fund of 2001.

The health program and compensation fund pays for the treatment of 9/11 associated illnesses suffered by any person or a representative of a deceased person who suffered physical harm or was killed as a result of the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center on September 11, 2001, or as a result of the debris removal efforts that took place in the immediate aftermath.

The act was originally adopted in 2010 and is set to expire at the end of this year. The reauthorization would permanently renew the funding for these programs for years to come.

“We are losing first responders from September 11 all the time,” Mr. Zeldin said this week. “It is our duty to say ‘thank you’ by ensuring they have health care and other needs that will allow them to keep their heads above water and overcome, to the best of their ability, challenges they now face as a result.”

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“You are the leader of the free world,” he said, speaking directly to the president. “Act like it.”

In 0bama's case, it could only be an "act"
By loading... (549), quiogue on Apr 21, 15 1:04 PM
The entire lot are the product of over 3.8 billion years of evolution.

Act like it.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 21, 15 1:23 PM
Great job Lee! Finally a leader from the east end who will express his opposition to the most inept president in the history of our republic.
By BillWillConn3 (165), Southampton on Apr 21, 15 9:52 PM
Actually that title is kind of a toss up between Franklin Pierce, Millard Fillmore, or possibly James Buchanan.

Hyperbole, much?
Apr 21, 15 10:59 PM appended by Mr. Z
Nice double post while ranting about ineptitude, BTW...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 21, 15 10:59 PM
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Great job Lee! Finally a leader from the east end who will express his opposition to the most inept president in the history of our republic.
By BillWillConn3 (165), Southampton on Apr 21, 15 9:54 PM
Former Miami mayor and Hillary Clinton supporter Manny Diaz hosting event for Martin O'Malley, Democrats are beginning to see the writing on the wall. Hillary is as corrupt has they come and can't win.

Emails = Benghazi
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 22, 15 7:27 AM
here's a thought-after Hillary crashes and burns, Jeb changes party
By loading... (549), quiogue on Apr 22, 15 10:38 PM
Lets take a step back before the media continues down the road of giving an out to the Clintons

Lets forget about proving what speech when and when Hillary did what for whomever

Lets get back to why do they have this foundation and why are they collecting money from foreign governments when she is Sec of State and how does she think this is ok in the fist place
Apr 22, 15 7:33 AM appended by 27dan
Isn't it time that someone, other than a republican, call for this lady to step aside? Has this country decayed to the point that this type of, blatant, persistent, corruption can continue to be ignored?
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 22, 15 7:33 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 22, 15 9:15 AM
.. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. . keep eating the bird seed.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 22, 15 10:27 AM
That's cute!!! I like it!!! Lots a dots... Birdseed!!!
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 23, 15 6:55 PM
Hey Lee, in case you missed this:

I am a cook in the US Senate but I still need food stamps to feed my children
By Bertrand Olotara

Every day, I serve food to some of the most powerful people on earth, including many of the senators who are running for president: I’m a cook for the federal contractor that runs the US Senate cafeteria. But today, they’ll have to get their meals from someone else’s hands, because I’m on strike.

I am walking off ...more
Apr 22, 15 10:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, in case Lee missed this too, we have a replica of Iran's nuclear facilities on United States soil at ORNL.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 22, 15 10:21 PM
@ your postscript: "...we have a replica of Iran's KNOWN nuclear facilities..."
-there, fixed that for 'ya
By loading... (549), quiogue on Apr 23, 15 12:37 PM
This man lives in OBAMA'S ECONOMIC MALAISE. IMHO he should get a better job to support his kids, if there are no options, thank Dear Leader.
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Apr 23, 15 4:58 PM
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And it will get worse as more people compete for available jobs. Headlines from yesterday. "Record 51 Million Legal/Illegal Immigrants Expected In Next Eight Years." The Census Bureau estimates that a record 51 million legal and illegal immigrants are expected to reside in the United States by 2023. By that time, immigrants will account for more than one in seven members of the nation’s population.

Driven mostly by legal immigration, the Bureau predicts the immigrant population ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Apr 24, 15 8:08 AM
"Republicans are for a minimum wage. The more minimum, the better."

~ Harry S. Truman
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 25, 15 12:04 AM
Tax Cuts For Whom? Heterogeneous Effects of Income Tax Changes on Growth and Employment

Owen Zidar
Chicago Booth and NBER
March 12, 2015

Abstract
This paper investigates how tax changes for different income groups affect aggregate economic activity. I construct a measure of who received (or paid for) tax changes in the postwar period using tax return data from NBER's TAXSIM. I aggregate each tax change
by income group and state. Variation in the income distribution ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 25, 15 8:32 AM
Z
You conveniently forgot to add the fact that Federal workers don't get paid minimum wage. The Davis Bacon Act established a separate rate schedule for contract workers under Federal projects. They are paid substantially higher than minimum wages. In addition this man is upset because his initial government job was eliminated? Maybe he should have considered this before he started that job as a government employed teacher. Those who work in the private sector are subject to layoffs and ...more
By Baymen87 (123), Lugoff, SC on May 1, 15 8:15 AM
And you are clueless.

You completely failed to garner the details of the article. The piece details the hourly wage. The piece describes the gent as a former teacher, who now works for a government contracted employer. Your reading comprehension skills are demonstrably and abject failure.

Your grade today: F
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 1, 15 11:37 PM
Thinking Mr. Zeldin like many Republicans, is a better warrior than diplomat. I pray he represents the majority of the American people's desire for a safe and peaceful resolution in our dealings with Iran. America doesn't alway need to project the image of a bully spoiling for a fight to the rest of the world!
By MikeTerry (4), Hampton Bays, New York on Apr 23, 15 4:05 PM
OK, the PC police have confirmed hundred year old idioms about pots and kettles are no longer acceptable forms of speech.
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 23, 15 4:46 PM
How about this instead:

"Zeldin Blasts Obama For Putting Politics Before Policy"

Thats like the donkey telling the dog he has big ears.
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 23, 15 4:47 PM
PROUD that Lee Zelden is our Congressman. He is looking out for US, and is right on with respect to this TRAITOROUS deal…………obama and kerry have sold US out to the Iranian SATAN'S……evil mullahs who have said, "DEATH TO AMERICA" while obam continues to make accommodations to seal the deal…….a disgrace to AMERICA..barack hussein obama will go down in INFAMY !
By carsrus (65), Hampton Bays on Apr 23, 15 5:38 PM
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A majority of US voters say Hillary Clinton is not honest or trustworthy according to a Quinnipiac University poll released Thursday.
Only 38 percent said they trust the Democratic frontrunner.

The full story: “FOX NEWS REPORTING: THE TANGLED CLINTON WEB” will air on Friday, April 24th at 10PM/ET

By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 23, 15 7:17 PM
Expect many more embarrassments from our right-wing Congressman.
By Falstaff (3), Sag Harbir on Apr 23, 15 11:56 PM
And this is an embarrassment how?
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Apr 24, 15 6:26 AM
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to bigfresh:

Quote:

"And this is an embarrassment how?"
------------------------------

Taking point in colluding with a foreign political party? - - - with a foreign power? - - - with a foreign espionage agency?

Perhaps Lee should be reminded of which constituency it is that he actually represents.

Not that his confusion causes him any "embarrassment".
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 25, 15 1:21 AM
... a long standing ally... Of the United States... That constituency...
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Apr 25, 15 4:46 PM
CHUCK TODD, MEET THE PRESS: I think [the Clintons] handled this awfully. This is the single most predictable issue that this campaign was going to have to deal with, and they seemed completely flat footed, totally unaware of what was coming. I can't tell you the number of Democratic operatives, some of whom are actually working from within the Clinton campaign, who all have the same reaction: Shaking their head going why are they still accepting foreign donations? It is a total head scratcher why ...more
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 26, 15 8:49 PM
Clinton Foundation admits making mistakes on taxes...
Combined government grants and donations...
Top Hillary bundler quits over unanswered questions...
CLIFT: Cannot write off author behind 'Clinton Cash'...
Apr 27, 15 8:49 AM appended by They call me
HILLARY CLINTON SETS RECORD, LONGEST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO DODGE NATIONAL PRESS IN MODERN HISTORY
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 27, 15 8:49 AM
that is the most disturbing part of all this, her silence on these matters
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Apr 27, 15 11:46 AM
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You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say will be misquoted, and then used against you.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 27, 15 11:35 PM
ok so lets just make a rule right now all candidates all partys, must remain silent from now until election day. completely silent no adds,no debates,no interviews,no media spin, no 501s nothing. and let the cards fall where the may based on current opinions.

i am fine with that, bet your not

By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Apr 28, 15 10:37 AM
Have you ever read Dostoyevsky?
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 28, 15 4:56 PM
The Clintons believe they are above the law, and even ethics, because for the last 25 years the media has treated them like they are.

The press has sneered at every act of malfeasance and criminality as if it were *only* partisan politics from their political opponents, instead of the gargantuan ethical lapses they actually are.

So who can blame them for thinking they could get away with selling America's uranium supply to a nation that has thousands of nuclear warheads already ...more
Apr 27, 15 11:40 AM appended by joe hampton
Hat Head you and the rest of the Clinton supporters denied that a meeting between Bill Clinton and shadowy Kazakh nuclear officials had taken place, only to have a The Times reporter produce photo evidence. Typical Clinton. Lie, lie, lie. Only when faced with insurmountable evidence do they tell the truth...So tired of the BS. It's especially tiring after 6 years of Barry's lies: "if you like your plan you can keep it" "if you like your Doctor you can keep him" I'll never use an Executive Order on immigration... Enough of these circus!
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on Apr 27, 15 11:40 AM
Think about how much money Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton could make when you have an ex-president being able to leverage an actual president sitting in the White House, his wife sitting in the White House. What they have just turned this into is just vulgar, they have turned public service into a $150 million dollar personal bank account.

I say let her run, I would love at this point to see her win the general election,
It would be Impossible!
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Apr 27, 15 12:09 PM
to They call me:

As Confucius said, “The superior man understands what is right; the inferior man understands what will sell.”

Had the Clintons restricted donations to their foundation, the deserving beneficiaries of those donations would have gone without. This fact is of negligible concern to Right-Wingers, for whom appearance (and virtually everything else) is so much more important than charity.

Let's be clear, there is nothing more to any of these complaints ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 27, 15 12:47 PM
What is the GOP's pet name for them again?

Oh, that's right.

"Helen Keller" Republicans
Apr 28, 15 3:23 PM appended by Mr. Z
LOL: Nevada man punks right-wing conspiracy theorists with fake Harry Reid story
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 27, 15 3:23 PM
Surly you don't believe what you spew, If those fine people just wanted to help "Charity's" they could have donated directly to the beneficiaries.

But then they could not have reaped any reward for there "compassionate" actions.

Your defense of this obvious corruption is laughable, yes you would be tectonically correct to say there is NO EVIDENCE. Hillary made sure of that when she destroyed the emails.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Apr 27, 15 2:22 PM
to Undocumented Democrat:

Yes, UD, "I" know that I am correct, as do you and as do all the other Right-Wing washerwoman who tediously reiterate malicious innuendos (of which your ultimate post is merely the most recent.)

Why are we not surprised that Right-Wingers assert that charitable donations are self-serving? Is it perhaps because they themselves cannot conceive of anyone doing anything for any other reason?
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 27, 15 3:28 PM
unfortunately charitable donations can be very self serving for the many corrupt organization heads.. Time will hopefully tell if the Clintons were self serving through their foundation or not.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 27, 15 4:07 PM
Well the best way to assess the Clinton Foundation would be to compare it to the actions of foundations of recent republican presidents. So if you look at the actions of the Regan Foundation... Oh wait, there isn't one. Well then the Bush Foundation...Oh, not one of those either. How about the GW Bush Foundation...nope. Then there's the Carter Foundation...Oh wait, he's a democrat. Hmm, seems like only democrat presidents try to make a positive difference in the world after they leave office.
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 27, 15 7:13 PM
That's the shiniest turd I've ever seen.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Apr 27, 15 9:06 PM
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Bird,
Im sure you know that Reagan and both bushes have foundations.

From charity foundation "Clinton foundation a slush fund. The Clinton Family mega charity took in more than 140 million in grants and pledges in 2013 but spent just 9 million on direct aid. The group spent the bulk of the windfall on administartion, travewl and salaries and bonuses, with the fattest payouts going to family and frends."
How would feel about donating money to this fine charitable organizations? Haven't ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 28, 15 9:44 AM
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To the best of my knowledge the Reagan, Bush and GW Bush foundations have only raised money for those presidents librarys and their ongoing operation and programs while the Clinton and Carter Foundations have worked world wide to try and make a difference. OK so not everything has gone right but at least they tried. That's more than the right side of the isle has done. The real reason the right keeps trying to tear down the Clintons is that the right has absolutly nothing to offer in their place. ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 28, 15 12:31 PM
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to razza5350:

Once again, you RIght-Wingers show yourselves to be utterly unscrupulous in falsifying the truth to support your fanatical agenda.

NO "charity foundation" found the Clinton Foundation to be a "slush fund." That remark came from an someone named "Bill Allison" of the "Sunlight Foundation" which purports to track the influence of money in politics..

"Charity Navigator", THE premier charity analyst, declines to rate the Clinton Foundation because, "[T]his charity's ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 28, 15 1:47 PM
"Our task is not merely one of itemizing Republican failures. Nor is that wholly necessary. For the families forced from the farm do not need to tell us of their plight. The unemployed miners and textile workers know that the decision is before them in November. The old people without medical care, the families without a decent home, the parents of children without a decent school: They all know that it's time for a change."

~ John F. Kennedy, July 15, 1960
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 29, 15 1:09 AM
Bird I know its tough but try to throw politics aside for a second. I wont even get into all the potential corruption occuring here but would you donate money to a foundation where over 90 cents on the dollar does NOT go to charity but rather lines the pockets of the people (and their cronies) who created the foundation? If the answer is yes I will open up a charity called "drinking the Kool aid" and you can send me a check. I'll even one up the Clintons and only keep 80 cents on the dollar (I ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 28, 15 1:52 PM
to razza5350:

Dear god, you are lying. What you allege is FALSE.

What good does it do to debate you? Regardless of the facts, the Right-Wing always hews to its ideological false beliefs - - - and spews them out.

What a shame that the American electorate must be burdened with distinguishing truth within the blizzard of mendacious chaff that the mindless trolls of the Right-Wing incessantly manufacture.

By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 28, 15 5:00 PM
What Phil hopes you missed on this MSNBC this morning,

Scarborough Unhinged Over Media Double Standard For The Clintons

But Mika, Bob McDonnell, let's look at what Bob McDonnell did. What Bob McDonnell did pales in comparison to what's in this book. What Bob Menendez did pales in comparison to this book (Clinton Cash). The Clintons have made $150 million over the past decade because of contacts they made during public service. I'm just curious, though, why are the Clintons held ...more
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 28, 15 8:31 PM
Go Joe. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while. Too bad it took you almost a decade to FINALLY be a journalist.
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on Apr 28, 15 8:37 PM
HHS
Truth.
1. Bill Allison senior fellow at the sunlight foundation, a GVT watchdog group once run by a progressive democrat Zephyr Teachout ripped the foundation saying that only 6.4% of the 2013 contributions went to direct aid. Thats actually worse than the 15% found by the Federalist for the 4 previous years. Bill Allison referred to the foundation as a "slush fund"
2. Charity navigator labeled it an "atypical business model", refused to give it a rating and put it on its watch ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 29, 15 9:23 AM
razza - No I personally will not be donating money to the Clinton Foundation but then again I am not being forced to and neither are you. On the other hand your claim that 90% of the money goes into the pockets of the Clintons and their cronies just doesn't hold up to scrutiny. When a simple delivery of services charity like Heffier International takes my money, buys a cow and gives it to a person in another country it is easy to follow the money, deduct overhead and deduce what percentage of my ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 29, 15 12:22 PM
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razza - more truth:
1. Yes. 6.4% direct aid. We know that. The Clinton Foundation(CF) does not work like a typical direct aid charity. See Hati example from my post above.
2. Charity Navigator did not refuse to give the CF a rating. They dropped the CF saying they were unable to give it a rating based on the CF's model. Direct quote from CN's website: We had previously evaluated this organization, but have since determined that this charity's atypical business model can not be accurately ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 29, 15 2:41 PM
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Bird,
A charitable foundation must file a form 990. The foundations disclosure form ssays they spent just 9 million in direct aid (which is 6.4%). Only 6.4% cents on the dollar is going to direct aid and you dont have a probem with that? You don't have a problem with donors contributing money and then getting "things" in return quid pro quo? To add on top many of this occured while she was secretary of state. You dont have a problem with her violating her agreement with the Obama administration? ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 29, 15 2:43 PM
I have no problem with the model the Clinton Foundation uses for projects like the one descibed above in Haiti. As explained above it does not result in direct aid to individuals but does hopefully result in permanent jobs for many. Let me give you the scenario again: In a poor, rural part of the world there is a population of able bodied workers but no jobs, no infrastructure and no education. In a different part of the world there is a company that needs workers to assemble widgets but there are ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 29, 15 3:16 PM
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As for all the alleged corruption, please show me some proof. Not a bunch of unsubstantiated allegations by a bunch of intelectually dishonest right wing talking heads. Show me something you can take into a court and get a conviction. The Clintons are the most investigated family in the country. The republicans have spent hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars investigating and trying to convict them of all kinds of bogus garbage without ever once succeeding. And now because they have been unable ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 29, 15 5:02 PM
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Bird
from the start I have said that "time will tell". I have been citing several credible sources (many of them left leaning). Don't fret The gentlemen that wrote the Clinton Cash book that opened this can of worms will be going after the Bush's foundation next. I am confident that you and HHS will be as vigilant is Bush's defence as you are in Hillary's.
What I don't get (in all due respect) is how you could say you would give money to this foundation. A very large % of the money was ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 30, 15 9:46 AM
razza -
1. Yes you did site several credible sources but unfortunately you didn't actually check those sources to see what they actually said. Instead you quoted dishonest right wing talking points sites which put forward false information and attributed it to said credible sites. I refuted your "facts" in my post "more truth"" above.
2. Should some large group of people slander Jeb Bush in these posts I would hold them to the same level of accountability for their statements.
3. At ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 30, 15 9:22 PM
1. Not true. All the sources I quoted were verified and truthful
2. I doubt it
3. Thats true and I do see that but it doesnt take away fom th efact that you state you have no problem with it. By saying that you dont see a conflict of interest when things are getting done quid pro quo? Its unethical and the clintons are using there political power for personnal gain.
4. no problem I just felt it was a terrible analogy.
5. true. Again time will tell but it smells of corruption and ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on May 1, 15 9:40 AM
razza
1. We will have to agree to disagree on this.
2. Time will tell.
3. What I said was I have no problem with the model that creates the measured 6.4% direct contribution scenario.
4. I see the value of the model and you don't. Once again we will have to disagree on this.
5. Once again, show me the corruption.
6. Great!
7. The election process is basically a debate between the parties and candidates. In the end the electorate decides who won the debate so it is hardly ...more
By bird (739), Southampton on May 1, 15 11:01 AM
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I do appreciate your response and find it refreshing to actually have a dialague with a lefty who doesnt rant and scream about the evil "right wingers". In regards to #5 I do ask that you google clinton foundation corruption. You are correct in that no charges have been filed yet but as I said its a process. By the way she has been avoiding the Press on the topic big time.
I really hope the country does not see another Bush or Clinton in the white house. Unfortunately no other democrat has ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on May 1, 15 12:11 PM
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ELECTION 2016
BERNIE SANDERS TO ANNOUNCE PRESIDENTIAL RUN
Vermont senator a self-described independent
ABCNEWS / Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont, is planning to announce on Thursday that he will run for president in 2016 and will enter primary and caucus contests as a Democrat, a senior Sanders adviser told ABC News.


By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 28, 15 7:09 PM
HILLARY CLINTON SETS RECORD, LONGEST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO DODGE NATIONAL PRESS IN MODERN HISTORY

By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 28, 15 7:18 PM
Wheels are coming off the Mystery Machine
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on Apr 28, 15 8:39 PM
Bernie Sanders is the Scott Walker of the Democrat party. He hasn't got a chance in hell of becoming president.
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 29, 15 12:28 PM
WASHINGTON POST UNCOVERS 1,100 HIDDEN FOREIGN ‘CLINTON CASH’ DONATIONS

From the Washington Post:

A charity affiliated with the Clinton Foundation failed to reveal the identities of its 1,100 donors, creating a broad exception to the foundation’s promise to disclose funding sources as part of an ethics agreement with the Obama administration
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 29, 15 9:14 AM
...all in the name of "redistribution of wealth."

the left has always used the "redistribution" ploy to redistribute all the money TO THEMSELVES, while the poor remain poor (Baltimore)

Let the system work, big government needs to get out of the way if we are ever going to recover economically. Less regulation more competition, fair taxing of imports less taxing of Americans.

By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Apr 29, 15 9:24 AM
Please identify said charity. Without that information this is just more sour grapes.
By bird (739), Southampton on Apr 29, 15 2:44 PM
You're right. There has been a "redistribution of wealth" in this country.

From the middle class and poor to the "wealthy". The top 20% of the nation own 88% of the wealth. The bottom 80% hold 12%.

Just let that sink through your thick cranium...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 29, 15 10:06 PM
to razza5350:

I already posted Charity Navigator's ACTUAL STATEMENT in which it said, explicitly, that no implication should be drawn from its decision not to rate the Clinton Foundation. Your fraudulent assertion IGNORES that instruction and is DIRECTLY CONTRADICTORY.

Mr. Allison, who is NOT a representative of Charity Navigator, is entitled to his view but once it is clear that he is NOT speaking for that respected authority, it isn't noteworthy.

The uranium agreement ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 29, 15 1:40 PM
Obama is on full path to beating Carter as "worst president EVER"Trickle Down Economics versus Trickle Down Socialism

Ronald Reagan’s economic plan saw GDP surge at a 3.5% clip – 4.9% after the recession. That’s a 32% bump.

During the Obama years, thanks to his big government policies, the US economy has stalled. Today the quarterly GDP was announced. The GDP for the first quarter of 2015 braked more sharply than expected at only a .2% pace. The US economy has ...more
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 29, 15 5:11 PM
Bull****.

Apr 29, 15 5:21 PM appended by Mr. Z
Kansas is anemic and just a smaller test tube in which to place "trickle down" economics. It's a failure as horse and sparrow, as Mellonomics, and as Reaganomics. For the sake of creation, get over it and quit repeating failure.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 29, 15 5:21 PM
U.S. economic growth slows to 0.2 percent, grinding nearly to a halt It's not plunging exports. It's not severe winter weather. It's not labor disputes.

This economy has been in the dumps due to too much government interference, and the liberal policies of a Ideological community organizer and his minions, who have never balanced a budget or managed so much as a lemonade stand, and have no business pulling strings in the White House.

We are straddled with sluggish growth, ...more
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on Apr 29, 15 5:52 PM
No, the economy is in the dumps because at least two thirds of this country GROSSES 50k or less per annum. Just shy of THIRTY PERCENT barely crack poverty level wages.

That will not drive GDP. Your average consumer is underpaid, and has negligible, if not zero disposable income. Wage stagnation is taking is toll. Do try not to be so naive, and you know where your right wing, generalized BS talking points belong.

Those of us with a reasonable amount of intelligence know a scam ...more
Apr 29, 15 10:00 PM appended by Mr. Z
**Note: The top 20% of the nation own 88% of the wealth. The bottom 80% hold 12%.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 29, 15 10:00 PM
Americans not in labor force exceeds 93 million for first time ever. The Labor Force Participation Rate is 62.7% - it has not been this low in 37 years. That is NOT something to brag about. If a Republican was President today, the media would be screaming about the black unemployment numbers, especially for youth. But BHO is blackish, so it's OK
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 29, 15 6:00 PM
You have zero interest rates, government asset buying. If the economy were solid these actions would lead to instant inflation. Anyone who tells you this economy is good, is clueless! When the economy hits a soft patch, and it will...what stimulus is left. You have no interest rates to lower, your spending 500B more than your taking in and when it tanks that number will be 1-1.5T. Some people think thats why you are seeing urban milatary excercises in the big citys and the feds buying up all the ...more
Apr 29, 15 6:06 PM appended by joe hampton
Seems to me the reason we are tanking is because Obama has destroyed the small business sector, more and more regulations have made the task of the small business harder. Entrepreneurship is way down. Recessions generally spur entreprenerial activity leading to the next boom. There is no next boom! We are in big trouble, and it will be harder to get out of it. Elections have consequences.
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on Apr 29, 15 6:06 PM
The small business sector has negligible capital to invest. The numbers are crystal clear.

Twenty-first century fuedalism:

The top 20% of the nation own about 88% of the wealth. The bottom 80% hold about 12%.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 29, 15 10:09 PM
The Top 1 Percent Pays More in Taxes than the Bottom 90 Percent
January 07, 2014

By Andrew Lundeen, National Tax Foundation .The top 1 percent of taxpayers pay more in federal income taxes than the bottom 90 percent. As you can see in the chart below, this is a stark change from the 1980s and early 1990s. But since the early 1980s, the share of taxes paid by the bottom 90 percent has steadily declined.

In 1980, the bottom 90 percent of taxpayers paid 50.72 percent of income ...more
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on Apr 30, 15 4:03 PM
And that pseudo academic mess fails to include regressive taxes which hit the poor and middle class harder than the "1%". The income of the "rich" increased significantly since '03. The income for most everyone else has not. In fact, it has remained stagnant or declined.

Nothing but more bull****.

Strike two...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 30, 15 9:51 PM
MEANWHILE BACK AT THE RANCH / WHILE ENJOYING THE DISTRACTION PROVIDED BY THE CITY OF BALTIMORE BURNING / HILLARY CLINTON CONTINUES TO SET RECORD, LONGEST PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TO DODGE NATIONAL PRESS IN MODERN HISTORY
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 29, 15 6:21 PM
to 27dan:

Quote:

"Obama is on full path to beating Carter as 'worst president EVER'"
---------------------------------------------------------

It is hard to imagine that there will ever be a president who will surpass George W.'s achievements of permitting 9/11 - - - plunging us, by mistake, into a foreign war that cost $6 trillion and 4500 American lives - - - and nearly destroying the entire world's economy.

What actions by President Obama and former president ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Apr 30, 15 10:37 AM
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Agreed no Jeb and no Hillary time to move on
By They call me (2549), southampton on Apr 30, 15 2:46 PM
Mr Z and High Hat / Bernie Sanders: "The American People Have Had Enough Of Establishment Politics"
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Apr 30, 15 11:52 PM
It really is a single party system...
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 1, 15 9:07 AM
Same old Hilary
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 1, 15 2:59 PM
The worlds worst president is a very subjective topic. Carter is consistently ranked low by historians. Some already argue that Bush is near the bottom (and they may very well be correct) even though it hasnt been 10 years since he left office. Obviously Obama has not yet been ranked by historians. .Andrew Johnson and Warren Harding are consistly ranked the worst
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Apr 30, 15 5:03 PM
Let's not forget Franklin Pierce, James Buchanan, and Millard Fillmore.

Franklin Pierce has my vote as worst POTUS in history.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Apr 30, 15 9:54 PM
few things please me more than to see hillary take a fall. she is a rotten, disgustingly arrogant person and her lack of character has finally caught up with her.

and yes i can admit we can do better than electing yet another bush, lets try a new direction.
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Apr 30, 15 6:11 PM
As Clinton scandals continue to mount and her credibility plummets, High hat,Mets and Phil are secretly discussing what once seemed impossible: Hillary Clinton might not survive primary season, let alone make it all the way to Pennsylvania Avenue.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on May 1, 15 12:43 PM
same old hilary
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 1, 15 3:16 PM
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May 1, 5:15 PM EDT

AP-GFK POLL: DOUBTS ABOUT CLINTON'S HONESTY AFTER EMAILS

BY LISA LERER AND EMILY SWANSON
ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) -- Americans appear to be suspicious of Hillary Rodham Clinton's honesty, and even many Democrats are only lukewarm about her presidential candidacy, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 1, 15 8:21 PM
A grafter of the first degree! Only the current Democrat Party would stoop this low.
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on May 2, 15 7:36 AM
graft (n.)

1. Horticulture.

a. a bud, shoot, or scion of a plant inserted in a groove, slit, or the like in a stem or stock of another plant in which it continues to grow.
b. the plant resulting from such an operation; the united stock and scion.
C. the place where the scion is inserted.

2. Surgery. a portion of living tissue surgically transplanted from one part of an individual to another, or from one individual to another, for its adhesion and growth.
3. ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 2, 15 8:33 AM
Well you could say she grafted influence for $
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 2, 15 7:33 PM
same Old hilary
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 2, 15 8:19 PM
Hillary plans on raising $2.5 BILLION ... then after that ... she wants to get 'BIG MONEY' out of politics

Too funny ...
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 3, 15 4:02 PM

FCC Commissioner: Feds May Come for Drudge

Federalizing of police, policing the information that gets to people, gun control, etc....

One can't help but notice we have seen this someplace before. Funny how historians place fascism on the right side of the political spectrum isn't it? I don't hear Ted Cruz suggesting any of this.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on May 4, 15 2:38 PM
STEVE WYNN SPEAKS OUT: AMERICAN RECOVERY 'PURE FICTION'...

TAKE-HOME PAY DECLINING...

RACE RELATIONS 'ALL-TIME LOW UNDER OBAMA '...
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on May 5, 15 8:42 PM
Hillary was the only First Lady in American history to be subpoenaed, for her role in the Whitewater scandal. And she was deposed, too – a lot, during Travelgate and Filegate. She was fingerprinted by the FBI. Her fingerprints were found on relevant documents requested by investigators…two years later, in her family quarters.
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 6, 15 1:04 AM
to Erin 27 E & 27dan & Undocumented Democrat & They call me & bigfresh & joe hampton:

One doesn't know whether you folks would do better as the witches in "Macbeth" or as the patrons of a hair salon. You do nothing but natter to each other about dire events - - - all imaginary.

Here's a mental health tip - - - go out an speak to normal people instead of each other. The REAL world is a wonderful place!

By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 6, 15 1:27 AM
Isn't it past your bedtime ?

We need to take back our media, If every act of Clinton fraud is found to be recorded in 3D iMax surround sound, Schweizer's book will be meaningless, if ABC,CBS,NBC decide it is meaningless.

If the progressives that control ABC,CBS,NBC , and that elected our America destroying marxist islamist from parts unknown POTUS, twice have decided to dump Mrs. Slick Willy, then she is toast.

If ABC,CBS,NBC decide to protect her, then,100 books on Clinton ...more
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on May 6, 15 1:32 AM
Double, double toil and trouble;
Fire burn, and caldron bubble.

Could be Hillary's champaign song...
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 6, 15 1:48 AM
Sounds to me like HHS does not like when people discuss and point things out that the main stream media want quiet
May 6, 15 9:22 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
same Old hilary
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 6, 15 9:22 AM
From the Wichita Eagle:

WSU statistician sues seeking Kansas voting machine paper tapes

By ROXANA HEGEMAN
Associated Press

A Wichita State University mathematician sued the top Kansas election official Wednesday, seeking paper tapes from electronic voting machines in an effort to explain statistical anomalies favoring Republicans in counts coming from large precincts across the country.

Beth Clarkson, chief statistician for the university’s National ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 6, 15 2:10 AM
Published on April Fools Day no less.

"The pattern could be voter fraud or a demographic trend that has not been picked up by extensive polling, she said".

The former not being a possibility, for we've been told, voter fraud doesn't exist.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 6, 15 12:36 PM
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to Po Boy:

You are mistaken. Voter fraud represented by individuals voting who are ineligible to vote is virtually nonexistent.

Voter fraud by Republicans manipulating the totals of votes honestly cast is another story (in fact, the story referenced by the cited article.)
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 6, 15 3:48 PM
Hat, when none other than yourself applies the same principal and reasonable standard to the yet to be proven allegations of voter fraud in this instance to that of the equally unproven allegations against Hillary, I'll be more than happy to have that discussion with you. Until such time, as noted in the article, an equally plausible explanation remains (in fact, the story referenced by the cited article) that it could be demographic trends. If it is your desire to apply the same standard to both ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 6, 15 4:33 PM
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The truth of the matter is HHS does not care about a candidate's integrity. He wants big ,bloated government controlling every aspect of one's life. Record numbers of Americans out of work and on permanent disability, food stamps etc. He believes everything that Media matters tells him.

Race relations are at an all-time low, and watch how they will demonize and degrade Ben Carson. How dare he stand for righteousness and hard work! He needs to get on the liberal plantation.
May 6, 15 5:05 PM appended by 27dan
HHS wants the Supreme Court. He thinks Hillary is the only path leading there. Nothing else matters. Integrity will have to wait.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on May 6, 15 5:05 PM
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to Po Boy:

Now, now, Po Boy, I merely pointed out your error regarding voter fraud as referenced by the article. Whether the vote totals are the result of criminal manipulation by Republicans or merely circumstantial remains to be seen.


to 27dan:

["meow"]
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 7, 15 8:14 AM
Please site the source of your information....
By bird (739), Southampton on May 7, 15 8:45 AM
"I merely pointed out your error regarding voter fraud as referenced by the article."

Sorry Hat, gotta disagree. The article simply doesn't address any element of voter fraud perpetrated by individuals. The article focuses solely on statistical anomalies which I merely pointed out that the article also notes a plausible explanation.

To your newly introduced point though, "virtually nonexistent" is a rather subjective term in my vocabulary. I'm of the belief that even one fraudulent ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 7, 15 10:37 PM
to Po Boy:

I assumed that your sarcastic remark that voter fraud was nonexistent was a reference to the many studies that show fraudulent voting by individuals to be insignificant. No studies have arrived at a similar general conclusion regarding the manipulation of vote totals, so if you were addressing your sarcasm towards this latter notion, in the mistaken belief that they HAD, it was inept (and the cause of my confusion.)

Also, contrary to your assertion, the statistical ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 8, 15 8:15 AM
Good afternoon Hat. Good debate. The sarcastic remark was correctly assumed. Fact is, voter fraud comes in many forms; some more severe than others and with that a greater degree of footprint and paper trail to investigate and prosecute. It exists. That is a fact. What ever the level, it should not be tolerated and every precaution should be taken to ensure the integrity of the process.

For every 1-in-15 million solution you point out and putting pure politics aside, I would suggest ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 8, 15 2:08 PM
to Po Boy:

Let me give voice to the question that was raised in the mind of everyone who read your final paragraph:

If, as you say, there are numerous "holes" in the News21 study, why did you not present them - - - or at least ONE of them?

As for proof of what you describe as the "virtually non-existent examples of real people being disenfranchised", I commend to your attention the following article:

"How Voter ID Laws Are Being Used to Disenfranchise Minorities ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 8, 15 3:59 PM
"If, as you say, there are numerous "holes" in the News21 study, why did you not present them - - - or at least ONE of them?"

It's very elementary Hat, I think anyone with half a wit about them who wants to know for themselves will go look. It's all there in black and white.

Names Hat. I want names of those who were ACTUALLY disenfranchised. Seems even a scholarly intellectual doing a statistical study could drum up just one for argument sake. You know, a Sandra Fluk type. ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 8, 15 6:36 PM
To Po Boy:

You can't walk the walk, can you? Unable to find fault with the News21 methodology, you claim that you just can't be bothered to point out its abundant errors. That stratagem didn't work in the 5th grade schoolyard. What makes you think that it will fly in the adult world?

In attempted counterpoint, you raise up a straw man voter who, while counted as un-ID'd in the investigation, actually DOES have the requisite ID, or COULD have if he wanted one, by virtue of his ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 9, 15 7:53 AM
Hat, I asked for proof of just one example of actual disenfranchisement that can be corroborated against the requirement of receiving other services or benefits that require photo ID. None can be provided. Fact is, disenfranchisement can't be substantiated. Statistically, that's a zero correlation which makes it's existence... zero.

The fact is, if disenfranchisement actually existed in more the than the political theoretical arena, that person would be paraded like it was the 4th of ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 10, 15 11:28 AM
to Po Boy:

You ask much but offer little. Whereas I have provided multiple citations authenticating my assertions, YOU bring NONE for yours.

Your criticism of the News21 study could be applied to any behavioral statistical analysis. There are always sampling errors (which the article professionally notes and you dutifully reproduce.) Unless they are egregious, they don't invalidate a study's conclusions since statistical methodology takes them into account (and no respected ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 11, 15 3:15 AM
Good morning Hat. I see. Can't find one verifiable example of disenfranchisement, can you? Of note, my request for names was never linked to the News 21 "study" you provided. It merely was a challenge to you to provide a verified REAL individual who has in fact been disenfranchised.

So back to one of the two plausible explanations - "The pattern could be voter fraud or a demographic trend that has not been picked up by extensive polling," I point you to the following:

Conservative ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 11, 15 10:25 AM
to Po Boy:

Since I have said nothing about election fraud other than that its nonexistence has NOT been demonstrated (as the nonexistence of voter fraud HAS), your reply is largely irrelevant.

As for disenfranchisement, one notes that you continue to demand that others complete an inane task which you yourself refuse to undertake, even though only you think that it is important. Why is that?

Thanks for posting the interesting citation (your first[!!]) about the failure ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 11, 15 3:56 PM
Appreciate the rigorous and civil debate Hat, even though I continue to not subscribe to your opinion or that of the sampling error laden News21 "study," btw, notes that absentee ballot fraud is significant. Not to mention, the News21 study deals ONLY with known potential personal voter fraud. It is possible - actually likely - that some voter fraud can be successful and go completely undetected and News21 would have no way of knowing it even took place. Think of it this way. How many pounds ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 11, 15 9:39 PM
to Po Boy:

I commend to your attention the following excerpts from the News21 study. The first from the main article and the second from an addendum:

“A key distinction is between VOTER fraud and ELECTION fraud. News21 started with the definitions offered by [Rutgers University Professor Lorraine] Minnite in her book ['The Myth of Voter Fraud']: 'Voter fraud is the intentional deceitful corruption of the election process by voters. All other forms of corruption of the electoral ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 12, 15 9:50 AM
Yes, Hat, well aware the News21 piece mentions the problem with absentee ballots. I pointed that out earlier. The emphasis should have been on KNOWN potential personal voter fraud.

There is one other worthy note about what boils down to a matter of opinion to the degree of disenfranchisement. Courts have predominantly sided with states who require photo ID. Indiana, Wisconsin, Texas and North Carolina as examples of the most recent where the requirement has been upheld by the courts ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 12, 15 8:00 PM
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to Po Boy:

Quote:

"Yes, Hat, well aware the News21 piece mentions the problem with absentee ballots."
----------------------------------------
I was pointing out that absentee ballot fraud is NOT voter fraud and your inclusion of it is, therefore, irrelevant to our discussion of the latter.

The Supreme Court's decisions did not deny that photo voter laws disenfranchised legitimate voters. Rather, the majority held that their imposition was a reasonable exercise ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 13, 15 2:19 PM
"The Supreme Court's decisions did not deny that photo voter laws disenfranchised legitimate voters."

And the dissenting judges were free to exercise their opinion. However, most courts upholding ID laws have weighed the issue in context that the photo ID laws should not be judged by the same strict standard applicable to a poll tax because the burden on voters was offset by the benefit of reducing the risk of fraud.

So following that logic Hat, are you saying that voters who ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on May 14, 15 10:20 AM
CNN's John King: "25% Honesty Rating" Is A "Five-Alarm Fire" For Clinton Campaign

MO IBRAHIM: What is this money for? What have you done with it? And that's what people should ask....BILL CLINTON: I just work there, I don't know... You do, look, there is one set of rules for politics, and another set for real life, you just have to learn to deal with it...
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 6, 15 4:54 PM
GRIFTER, pardon the typo. The PIAPS is a grafter.
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on May 6, 15 6:07 PM
From the NOAA observatory, Mauna Loa:


The World's Carbon Dioxide Levels Just Hit a Staggering New Milestone

By Inae Oh
Wed May 6, 2015 3:17 PM EDT

The milestone, reached last month, was announced by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration on Wednesday.

"It was only a matter of time that we would average 400 parts per million globally," said NOAA scientist Pieter Tans in a press release. "We first reported 400 ppm when all of our Arctic sites ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 6, 15 7:29 PM
Everyone stay calm the Macadamia nuts like the CO2

And you forgot to sound the Mother Joens Alarm about the chain reaction of methane that will also be a result of this "Staggering New Milestone"
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 6, 15 9:09 PM
I've mentioned it before. Your failure to pay attention is not my problem. However, ocean acidification and the release of a gas which has more than twenty times the heat trapping capability of CO2 is everyone's problem. Using natural gas (methane) for fuel is probably not the brightest idea people have ever had. There's also deforestation on a massive scale in Asia and parts south toward the Indian Ocean for paper production, regardless of what macadamia nuts like.

I've referenced ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 7, 15 10:39 PM
Congradulations to David Cameron !!!
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 7, 15 7:18 PM
Finally, A Britain as Margaret Thatcher envisioned it, After years of compromise with the Liberal Democrats. David Cameron will use the Conservative Party’s first majority in the House of Commons for nearly 20 years to “deliver” on a agenda to cut welfare, shrink the size of the state, take control of immigration and radical terrorists and re-define Britain’s relationship with Europe.

May 8, 15 7:50 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Mean while no one has heard from that tired Hilary woman.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 8, 15 7:50 PM
i believe another generation as seen what the liberals are about and the world has turned conservative. there are the doers and the taker's. most have relized this is not working out and they have been sold nothing but lies. they want a better life off welfare with the ability to make a better world .
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on May 8, 15 7:56 PM
Looks like Tom Brady learned very well from Hillary Clinton
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 8, 15 6:12 AM
he is cute but what a sneaky cheater, as far as i am concerned they did not win the super bowl
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on May 8, 15 7:58 PM
John E. Sununu of the The Boston Globe recently said something like,

Sometimes the idea of a thing is much better than the thing itself. Take the Titanic, for example, or Hillary Clinton’s campaign for president. The Titanic taught us much about the arrogance of certainty. And in politics, as in the North Atlantic, when the call comes to abandon ship, it won’t be pretty. A recent NBC poll showed Democrats wishing to see a strong challenger to Hillary at 43 percent and rising.

I ...more
May 8, 15 8:24 PM appended by joe hampton
I ...more say leave her alone and let her run it will be awesome
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 8, 15 8:24 PM
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Is she in the witness protection program ?

SILENT HILARY: 26 DAYS INTO CAMPAIGN, NO NATIONAL INTERVIEWS FOR CLINTON

Friday marks 26 days since Clinton announced she is running , but she has yet to do a formal interview with national media, extending her own record as the presidential candidate who’s waited longest in modern history.

Clinton’s silence comes as political reporters are buzzing about the book “Clinton Cash,” which details influence ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 8, 15 9:27 PM
I find it Hil - arious that Mr Z lets all the Clinton bashing go on without so much as a comment.

Judging by High Hat Sizes reaction It would seem Dan nailed it when he said

"HHS wants the Supreme Court. He thinks Hillary is the only path leading there. Nothing else matters. Integrity will have to wait

But Mr Z, No no no he is happy to let others do his dirty work and lets the Hilary bashing continue holding out for a real progressive wing nut like Elizabeth Warren
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 8, 15 9:50 PM
Actually I lean towards someone who stands firmly in front of the middle class, willing to aid and defend them, and isn't a Bible wielding psychopath...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 13, 15 2:05 PM
to They call me:

The reason that no one outside of your beauty salon has commented on your groups' posts recently is because of their unalloyed inanity. Literally nothing newsworthy has happened of late worth mentioning but that has not caused a diminution in the volume of puerile and malevolent gossip about the Clintons that you incessantly trade with each other. In fact, it has actually increased.

You - - - and your colleagues under the hair dryers - - - are BORING, which is ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on May 9, 15 5:22 AM
whatever
By CaptainSig (694), Dutch Harbor on May 9, 15 7:04 AM
All your pseudo intellectual clap trap doesn't change the fact that Hillary is a GRIFTER of the highest order. While legally qualified for POTUS, she has done nothing that has prepared her for the role. Please consider her term as SOS for an example of inept leadership. Coupled with her shady real estate and financial dealings, questionable donations to the Clinton Crime Family Foundation, Bill's 500K speeches in countries with business pending before her as SOS , paint a picture of a shady individual ...more
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on May 9, 15 7:09 AM
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i find it hard to , um swallow that the still and currant wife of bill clinton is supposed to be a champion for woman every where after hearing from some of his past acquaintances. please don't take it from me instead look it up search your conscience and draw your own conclusions

Juanita Broaddrick (AR)- rape
Eileen Wellstone (Oxford) - rape
Elizabeth Ward Gracen - rape - quid pro quo, post incident intimidation
Regina Hopper Blakely - "forced himself on her, biting, bruising ...more
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on May 11, 15 11:11 AM
US code 18 section 2071:
(b)
Whoever, having the custody of any such record, proceeding, map, book, document, paper, or other thing, willfully and unlawfully conceals, removes, mutilates, obliterates, falsifies, or destroys the same, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both; and shall forfeit his office and be disqualified from holding any office under the United States. As used in this subsection, the term “office” does not include the ...more
By loading... (549), quiogue on May 11, 15 11:33 AM
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The Washington Post
By Chris Cillizza May 11 at 3:03 PM


Hillary Clinton hasn’t answered a question from the media in 20 days
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 11, 15 10:39 PM
The last day Clinton answered a question was April 21 in New Hampshire:

Yes, I would like that Burrito Bowl with extra guacamole
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 11, 15 10:43 PM
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'EMPIRE' CREATOR LEE DANIELS:

'I Hate White People Writing for Black People, It's So Offensive'...

What a racist show,

Discusting...
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 11, 15 10:46 PM
What would Phil Say ?

In an interview with Matt Bai of Yahoo! News, President Obama said Elizabeth Warren is "absolutely wrong" on the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and trashed her as a "politician like everybody else."

"The truth of the matter is that Elizabeth is, you know, a politician like everybody else," Obama said in the interview with Yahoo! News. "And you know, she’s got a voice that she wants to get out there. I understand that. On this, her arguments don’t ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 11, 15 11:07 PM
A federal judge has agreed to reopen a lawsuit that seeks to gain access to emails from former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s private server.
Judge Reggie B. Walton’s decision Friday came after the State Department and Judicial Watch, which brought the lawsuit, agreed that the documents that Clinton kept on her own email server separate from the government should be turned over.
“This is the first case that’s been reopened,” Tom Fitton, president of Judicial ...more
By loading... (549), quiogue on May 12, 15 9:20 AM
Thats a start
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 12, 15 11:01 AM
Democratic senator Sherrod Brown is accusing Barack Obama of sexism in his attacks on Senator Elizabeth Warren.

"I think the president was disrespectful to her by the way he did that...made this more personal," Brown told reporters.

"I think referring to her as her first name, when he might not have done that for a male senator, perhaps--I've said enough."
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 12, 15 4:54 PM
For seven years we have learned two things about President Obama: 1) He loves the poor so much he continues to create more of them. 2) He loves the poor so much he does everything in his power to keep them poor.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 13, 15 1:13 AM
Do Americans still not get Reaganomics?

Americans laud Republicans' economic management. Facts show they're being way too generous
By Tim Donovan


The results of a new Gallup poll released Monday reveal an unfortunate yet wholly unsurprising fact: The most commonly offered positive statement about the Republican Party continues to be its capacity for “better fiscal management.”

While not unexpected, it’s an absolutely baffling, incredible position, ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 13, 15 3:03 PM
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Fail
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 13, 15 3:58 PM
Yep, said economic system has. Miserably.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 13, 15 5:56 PM
Is she in the witness protection program ?

SILENT HILARY: 26 DAYS INTO CAMPAIGN, NO NATIONAL INTERVIEWS FOR CLINTON
Now 32 days since Clinton has done a formal interview with national media, extending her own record as the presidential candidate who’s waited longest in modern history.

Clinton’s silence comes as political reporters are buzzing about the book “Clinton Cash,” which details influence ...more peddling by the Clinton Foundation.

By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 13, 15 1:16 AM
Wednesday on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe,” host Joe Scarborough criticized President Barack Obama for his attack on Fox News yesterday during a discussion on poverty at the Catholic-Evangelical Leadership Summit at Georgetown University.

Scarborough said, “I don’t know where to start. In a bipartisan summit you decide a cable news channel as the problem. Saying that Roger Ailes’ network calls people leeches, sponges, and lazy, at a summit that’s supposed ...more
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 13, 15 1:24 PM


It's getting down right embarrassing watching obama's arrogance and hypocrisy on display daily. Joe has him pegged, and has for quite some time now.

I'm enjoying watching obama's defenders using pretzel logic trying to defend his ineptitude.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on May 14, 15 9:47 AM
If you are enjoying that then you should be loving the defenders of Hillary's hunker in the bunker display for the last 5 weeks. There is no way possible this corrupt woman can get elected after this latest round of corruption and deceit!

Go ahead HHS say what you will it's not going to help her at this point
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 14, 15 3:55 PM
…CLINTONS EARNED MORE THAN $25M FROM SPEECHES SINCE 2014… AS HILLARY BLASTS CEO PAY


ARE YOU READY ....

By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 18, 15 7:49 PM
Griftopia: Bubble Machines, Vampire Squids, and the Long Con That Is Breaking America

by Matt Taibbi

A brilliantly illuminating and darkly comic tale of the ongoing financial and political crisis in America

The financial crisis that exploded in 2008 isn’t past but prologue. The grifter class—made up of the largest players in the financial industry and the politicians who do their bidding—has been growing in power, and the crisis was only one terrifying ...more
May 14, 15 10:44 PM appended by Mr. Z
Rolling Stone contributing editor Taibbi delivers a blistering examination of the upheaval that has roiled the American economic system over the past several years. At the heart of the upheaval, he says, is a vein of greed running up and down the real-estate industry, from mortgage brokers who falsified customer loan applications to banks that parceled out mortgages to second and third parties to rating agencies that signed off on highly suspect loans. Taibbi saves a good deal of venom for former Federal Reserve chairman Alan Greenspan, arguing that Greenspan’s philosophy of easy cash, limited government oversight of markets, and bailing out “too big to fail” financial institutions all fueled the recent economic meltdown. And Taibbi profiles a recently passed health-care bill severely compromised by an all-powerful insurance lobby. As critical as he is of the process—a process not likely to get fixed any time soon—he doesn’t seem to carry an agenda; instead, like any good investigative reporter, he mostly follows his nose. --Alan Moores
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 14, 15 10:44 PM
Wednesday Cable Ratings: MSNBC Hits Lowest Demo Ratings Day in 10 Years
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 14, 15 11:52 PM
STEPHANOPOULOS SORRY: FOR HIS OWN CLINTON CASH!

Also member of invitation-only Clinton Global Initiative...

ABC FACES CREDIBILITY CRISIS...

Foundation donors include dozens of media organizations, individuals...

O'Malley adds Iowa staff...
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 16, 15 12:52 AM
…CLINTONS EARNED MORE THAN $25M FROM SPEECHES SINCE 2014… AS HILLARY BLASTS CEO PAY


ARE YOU READY ....
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 16, 15 12:55 AM
POLITICS
Newly Released Documents Indicate Key Hillary Clinton Claim on Emails Was Not True
May. 18, 2015 6:57pm

Emails published by the New York Times Monday indicate that Hillary Clinton used more than one private email address during her time as secretary of state, contradicting previous claims from the Democratic presidential contender’s office.

Multiple emails show Clinton used account “hrod17@clintonemail.com” while serving in the Obama administration ...more
May 18, 15 7:55 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
ARE YOU READY ....
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 18, 15 7:55 PM
C'mon Priebus, you weenie..."misled public?!" She LIED! Her lawyer LIED! And if elected POTUS we get a LIAR in the Oval Office.
But hey, we should be used to that by now.
May 19, 15 12:41 AM appended by loading...
I'm reminded of a statement by Jerry Zeifman, a life-long Democrat and former general counsel and chief of staff of the House Judiciary committee, who supervised Hillary Rodham when she worked on the Watergate investigation in 1974. When it was over, Zeifman fired Hillary from the committee staff and refused to give her a letter of recommendation...one of only three people who earned that dubious distinction in Zeifman's 17-year career. Why? "Because she was a liar. She was an unethical, dishonest lawyer. She conspired to violate the Constitution, the rules of the House, the rules of the committee and the rules of confidentiality." Same ol' same ol'
By loading... (549), quiogue on May 19, 15 12:41 AM
NYT's Nick Confessore:

Clinton's Campaign "Like Watching An Armored Car Drive Through Iowa"
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 19, 15 10:34 AM
she is a phony, sad state for our country. the media is complicit in tolerating this obvious attempt to hide behind the scenes and just run on name recognition and being a women.
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on May 18, 15 9:06 PM
Hillary is thinking: "If they are dumb enough to elect Obama - TWICE - they are dumb enough to elect me."
By They call me (2549), southampton on May 19, 15 10:40 AM
Hillary is giving many the impression that she only answers questions from press people that donate $75,000 to the Clinton Foundation.
By joe hampton (3248), southampton on May 19, 15 3:36 PM
what difference do questions make? she is incapable of a straight forward answer.

ask her why she blamed the terrorist attacks in libya on an obscure u tube video.
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on May 19, 15 3:41 PM
Hillary Finally Talking To Press: "The Queen Deigns To Speak To The Scribes Of The Realm"
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 20, 15 7:29 PM
Clinton campaigning in a bubble, largely isolated from real people
BY ANITA KUMAR
McClatchy Washington BureauMay 21, 2015 Updated 10 hours ago

By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 22, 15 12:34 AM
JUDICIAL WATCH FILES SEVEN LAWSUITS TO EXPOSE HILLARY CLINTON EMAIL SCANDAL
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on May 22, 15 12:41 AM

Big Banks Pay $5.6 Billion, Plead Guilty To Felonies Over Currency And Rate-Fixing

May 20, 201512:46 PM ET
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on May 22, 15 6:32 AM
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