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State Closes Shellfishing In Western Shinnecock Bay After Toxin Is Detected

Publication: The Southampton Press
By Michael Wright   May 7, 2011 11:09 AM
May 11, 2011 10:02 AM
QUOGUE—State officials have ordered the waters of western Shinnecock Bay and Quantuck Bay closed to all shellfish harvesting and warned residents not to consume shellfish harvested from those areas because of the detection of a red algae that produces a neurotoxin potentially dangerous to humans.

The State Department of Environmental Conservation issued a warning on Friday that no shellfish should be taken from the waters of Shinnecock Bay west of the Ponquogue Bridge, and Quantuck Bay east of the Post Lane Bridge in Quogue.

The state has confirmed that high concentrations of a red algae known as Alexandrium have been detected in the bay and in shellfish samples taken from its waters. Alexandrium produces a neurotoxin called PSP that can cause numbness and temporary paralysis in humans if consumed, and could be... more


This is bad news because I clam in west Shinnecock and was ordered to throw my catch back Friday ahternoon.
What is the name of the Red tide that isn't a threat to humans ?
By PrivateerMatt (365), Weesuck Creek , EQ on May 7, 11 2:01 PM
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There is one?
May 7, 11 6:14 PM appended by Mr. Z
Wait! Possibly in a lab somewhere, s******g biodiesel. Only "good" variety I could think of...
By Mr. Z (3080), North Sea on May 7, 11 6:14 PM
When are we going to wake the hell up and put a stop to the nitrogen that feeds these algae? The answer is to make a donation to the Peconic Baykeeper who seems to be the only one focused on this and NO, I am not the Peconic Baykeeper!
By Old Quogue (7), Quogue on May 7, 11 3:08 PM
Bring back the sustainability majors to a residential Southampton campus so there are hundreds and eventually a couple thousand students to work on the sustainability issues on the East End.

Limit commercial development until it is proven it cannot harm the bay environments.
By WarriorMom (30), Southampton on May 7, 11 3:34 PM
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Back in the 70's when all the duck farms were pouring sewage into the various South Shore creeks clamming was at its best.
Isn't sewage nitrogen ? And there weren't any algae blooms either.
By PrivateerMatt (365), Weesuck Creek , EQ on May 7, 11 4:24 PM
The additional nitrogen from new septic tanks built since then are worse then the duck farms were. This paper and Newsday have published several articles about this recently. Maybe the 70's were some kind of optimum with the duck farms in decline and the building boom yet to occur. I remember the heyday of clamming back then. We are killing the bays. Really a shame.
By rburger (41), Remsenburg on May 9, 11 9:30 AM
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The problem is from stormwater runoff period. The winter storms caused large scale applications of rock salt, this combined with petroleum contaminants carried via the asphalt roadways causes a toxic blend. This material settles to the bottom of the tributary and the bivalves attempt to digest it.
This causes all sorts of problems, like closing the fisheries, swimming fish migrate so they are not directly effected.
There is a reason to be concerned because pesticide use has declined dramatically ...more
By Rayman (4), southampton on May 8, 11 2:21 PM
Rayman,

Please take a few courses offered by Dr. Gobler so you can learn a thing or two about the science of algal blooms and marine biology.

"rock salt" is NaCl. Seawater is H2O w/NaCl dissolved in it. The runoff from rock salt has little to no effect on the marine enviornment - save for a minor increase in salinty which is quickly offset by the flushing of the bay.

You claim that the rock salt "combines" with petroleum contaminants to create a "toxic blend". And ...more
By Nature (835), Hampton Bays on May 9, 11 10:31 AM
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Remember that game show, "To Tell The Truth" ... Will the REAL Peconic Baykeeper Please Stand Up.....

This further narrows the field of contestants.... I am down to NATURE and OLD QUOGUE....
By BIGjimbo12 (178), East Quogue on May 10, 11 5:40 PM
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This paper has reported in the past that cesspool leakage has been one of the major causes of red tide and that it has been occurring like clockwork since 2004. There is a 900 sq ft home on my block that has been occupied by as many as 22 people at a time. There are 3 other homes on the block that are also overcrowded albeit not as crowded as the other. This is a problem that exists all over the East End.

It would seem that until we address the overpopulation, and the strain it puts on ...more
By Dr Spock (28), Hampton Bays on May 13, 11 11:42 AM
Don't forget lawn chemicals. Nobody uses native plantings with these waterfront estates. There is sod and ornamental plantings covering very sandy soil. Requiring tons of fertilization. High nitrogen keeps your grass green.
By ADAMSG (28), EAST QUOGUE on May 16, 11 3:50 PM
I would surmise it is most likely a combination of all the factors stated above, with the exception of road salt.
By Mr. Z (3080), North Sea on May 19, 11 6:54 PM

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