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Oct 30, 2018 5:21 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin, Gershon Spar, Parry In Home Stretch Of Campaign

Perry Gershon and U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin at Hampton Bays High School on Monday night.   MICHAEL WRIGHT
Oct 30, 2018 5:34 PM

With one of the most contentious midterm congressional elections in decades just a week away, a raucous throng of supporters of U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin and his Democratic challenger, Perry Gershon, packed the Hampton Bays High School auditorium on Monday night for the only public debate between the two candidates on the South Fork this election cycle.

The candidates on Monday did not disappoint their supporters, trading barbs and challenging each other’s accounts of their own records throughout.

At Monday’s debate—and at a televised roundtable discussion with editors of the Press and Sag Harbor Express last week—the pair showcased the broad differences on a number of key issues.

Mr. Gershon, as he has done throughout the campaign, criticized the angry tone that his opponent’s advertising has taken and likened it to the approach President Donald Trump has applied to nearly every issue he has received push back on.

“My campaign has been based on issues and solutions,” Mr. Gershon said on Monday, repeatedly calling Mr. Zeldin a skillful performer who obfuscates his position with rhetoric and has relied on personal digs at Mr. Gershon since the day after the Democratic primary. “I’ve avoided personal insults and attacks throughout, because that is not the best way forward. We need to tone down the rhetoric throughout the country.”

Mr. Zeldin, for his part, focused on his “victories” for the East End and stood by his conservative stances on issues like immigration, health care, gun control and the recently spotlighted transgender rights, while highlighting Mr. Gershon’s New York City roots and his support for less stringent immigration enforcement.

“I’ve brought home a lot of important victories across the [1st District],” Mr. Zeldin said at the debate held at LTV studios on Thursday, October 25. “A picture of reality across our country today: to claim that our economy is not doing well, that MS-13 is not being defeated, that is just not reality.”

Just two days after the massacre at the Tree of Life synagogue in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, gun control took center stage early at Monday evening’s debate in a race that Mr. Zeldin said is the only one in the nation contested between two Jewish candidates.

Both men railed against burgeoning bigotry nationwide behind the massacre and others like it in recent years, calling for national efforts at tamping down emotions.

“The gun did not fire itself,” Mr. Zeldin said. “We have to address the hate that drove that.”

Mr. Gershon, who lives in East Hampton, was quick to call out statements made by President Trump that he said are “dog whistles” that encourage, unwittingly or not, strong emotions toward those one disagrees with.

“It’s an out-product of the poison rhetoric that is going on in this country,” he said. “That gives license to lunatics to come out and show their passion. We have to tone it down. It starts with the president.”

Mr. Zeldin replied by calling Mr. Gershon’s connecting the president to the Pittsburgh massacre “pretty outrageous.”

Mr. Gershon also said that Congress needed to find a way to impose new requirements on gun purchases, while preserving the right to bear arms.

“I support the Second Amendment, I support people’s rights to own a gun to protect themselves. I don’t want to take guns away from honest citizens—we have a right to protect ourselves, we have the right to hunt,” Mr. Gershon said.

“We should renew the assault weapons ban that expired in 2004. The AR-15 is a problem that should not be sold the way it is. And we should not have concealed carry reciprocity,” he added, referring to a bill supported by Mr. Zeldin, which passed the House, that would allow those with gun-carrying permits in one state to carry a concealed weapon in another, even if that state, like New York, has stricter rules.

Mr. Zeldin, who grew up in Mastic Beach, spoke only of legislation that addresses background checks to prevent suspected terrorists from purchasing guns, and said even that concern is not given enough attention by the Department of Justice.

But he seized on Mr. Gershon’s penning of an online statement about gun control in the wake of the Pittsburgh shooting as “politicizing the tragedy,” and his supporters personalizing it in their protests of his campaign.

“You haven’t even buried the people yet in Pittsburgh,” Mr. Zeldin said over a chorus of boos of Gershon supporters in the audience. “It’s important that we talk to each other, not past each other. Showing up at my office holding up a sign that has my daughters’ names on it, talking about someone shooting them, doesn’t help.”

Throughout the debate, Mr. Gershon focused on Mr. Zeldin’s siding with or lack of push back against President Trump on a number of hot-button issues.

He linked the incumbent to the rolling back of funding for the Environmental Protection Agency and the weakening of air quality protections by the Trump administration. Mr. Zeldin, in turn, said that EPA funding to projects in New York’s 1st Congressional District had increased during his tenure, and he noted that the Long Island Sound Program, the National Estuaries Program and Sea Grant, a federally financed marine research and education program, had all been fully funded in the most recent federal budget.

Mr. Zeldin acknowledged that he had supported the president’s decision to remove the United States from the Paris climate accords, saying that the United States was making costly concessions, while other countries were increasing their carbon emissions.

He also blasted Mr. Gershon for railing against the president’s East Coast offshore oil drilling proposal—which he too has opposed—while owning stock in oil industry companies. Mr. Gershon said the company he had invested in owns a harbor facility where oil tankers unload oil to shore, but has nothing to do with offshore drilling, as his opponent has suggested.

On health care, the pair reiterated their well-staked-out differences. Mr. Gershon called for shoring up and supporting Obamacare and for the nation to start working on a single-payer system that has come to be referred to as “Medicare for All.”

“We need universal health care,” he said. “We’ve come a long way. We can’t be going backward.”

Mr. Zeldin said that Obamacare has been more of a hindrance than a benefit for New Yorkers and has been a disaster in some states, where insurance companies have left markets altogether rather than try to comply with the law’s requirements.

“I don’t agree with ‘Medicare for All,’” he said. “Nobody has figured out how to pay for it. I don’t want a single-payer, government-controlled health care. That is not in the best interests of my constituents.”

On immigration, Mr. Zeldin said that he supports expanding legal immigration and lifting caps on visas, but that he also thinks border security needs to be strengthened, including the president’s marquee issue of building new hardened barriers along portions of the border where there are none now. He also said he favored more funding for Border Patrol and Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Mr. Gershon called the idea of a border wall “a myth” and said that what is needed is comprehensive, bipartisan changes to immigration laws and that the policies of the Trump administration have pushed immigrants “into the shadows.”

At the televised discussion in Wainscott last Thursday, Mr. Gershon had said that Mr. Trump’s knee-jerk reaction and sensationalist moves to put immigration in the spotlight were detrimental to level-headed legislation on the topic.

“Trump’s response is to send troops, not lawyers, to look at the cases,” he said of the much publicized caravan of immigrants from Honduras walking north through Mexico, and the president’s threats of cutting aid to that country in punishment.

“We should be looking at making conditions better in Honduras, not cutting aid. That’s going to make more people try to leave Honduras. It’s backward.”

Mr. Zeldin said that he has been critical of the president’s rhetorical posturing with regard to immigration, but also said that the idea of a caravan of people pushing toward the U.S. border is disturbing.

“We should not allow them to roll over us,” he said. “You have to deal with it directly, and you have to be aware that people are watching.”

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Lee Zeldin has done a great job, perry just tries to Blame.
Vote for his record. He also has served HIS COUNTRY...
By knitter (1507), Southampton on Oct 31, 18 8:30 AM
Thank you for your service zeldin. But it doesn’t make him anymore qualified to serve public office then Gershon.explain trumps deferments.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Oct 31, 18 8:33 AM
Jews praying in Pittsburgh, African Methodists praying in Charleston, Unitarians praying in Knoxville -- who will be next? Episcopalians in Easthampton? Catholics in Hampton Bays? Congressman Zeldin voted to allow fanatical gun owners in other states to bring the danger to us here on the East End. His advocacy of this nightmarish loss of safety for us all so that he could collect contributions from an NRA that is now funded by Russian criminals proves that he is no longer qualified to hold office.
Time ...more
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Oct 31, 18 8:51 AM
Lee Zeldin and the NRA sitting in a tree k-i-s-s-i-n-g...

Mr. Zeldin voted to make it legal to carry high-powered concealed firearms within yards of our local houses of worship, schools and beaches.
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Oct 31, 18 9:03 AM
I encourage everyone to watch this debate on TV.
I was there and Perry made a very strong case for the return of normalcy to our politics.

He recognizes the divisive tone that the President uses and the result that comes from it. Yes, the President's words, tweets, and winks to white nationalists does create an envinorment that encourages fringe wackos to act out. If you can't admit that then you do not deserve to serve the people of CD1.

Perry gets it and is not afraid to ...more
By fritzdaddy (31), southampton on Oct 31, 18 11:37 AM
Obama was a charismatic speaker. Always stating. Love is the key..we need to stick together.... That's great and all but when there were people with no jobs, no hope, racial divides, cop hating, no respect from the Middle East, nukes flying in the South China Sea, open borders. Him taking 400K to speak at Cantor Fitzgerald after his presidency you realize that talk is cheap. Sorry, but I get the same feeling from Perry.
By lirider (251), Hampton Bays on Nov 1, 18 9:56 PM
I encourage everyone to watch this debate on TV.
I was there and Perry made a very strong case for the return of normalcy to our politics.

He recognizes the divisive tone that the President uses and the result that comes from it. Yes, the President's words, tweets, and winks to white nationalists does create an envinorment that encourages fringe wackos to act out. If you can't admit that then you do not deserve to serve the people of CD1.

Perry gets it and is not afraid to ...more
By fritzdaddy (31), southampton on Oct 31, 18 11:38 AM
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Unfortunately I think we're past the point of being able to return to normalcy or civility in our politics. Trump has effectively used the media to essentially brainwash millions of people in to believing whatever narrative he chooses. The only way to move forward is for Democrats to show up in record numbers at the polls this election, and every one to follow and literally squeeze every last breath out of the GOP. The damage has been done. Now we must undo it on our own, as usual.
By johnj (910), Westhampton on Oct 31, 18 12:19 PM
so I guess all us Trump supporters are dumb and gullible and easily brainwashed. keep telling yourselves that see how you all do in 2020. Signed- One of many college educated white collar deplorables
By CaptainSig (687), Dutch Harbor on Oct 31, 18 6:03 PM
"Stupid libby lib media, this is America, all you have to do is work hard and things will work out for you. If 62% of jobs can't provide a middle class income, you're just not working hard enough"
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Oct 31, 18 6:54 PM
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Trump takes a crayola to the Constitution.
Zeldin: Got nothin' for you on that. Standin' with the Big Orange Poop. Consult
his outside counsel - Rudy Guiliani, Michael Cohen & Jay (Big Radio) Sekulow
AKA Dewey Fleechem & Howe!
One thought- As a member of the majority Zeldy killed our HealthCare. How's that going to work out for us in the unlikely event he's re-elected and he's in the
minority? Maybe, not so good.
Gotta go, Fox News just said I needed a Smallpox shot against ...more
By allpeoplecount (58), eastport on Oct 31, 18 12:22 PM
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Thank you to the LWV for hosting the debates on Monday and Tuesday. Without a doubt, Perry Gershon won both debates. He was so focused on his platform and expressed ways to move this District and Country forward,

Zeldin was focused on his scripted answers, and was totally unhinged at both debates. During Tuesday's debate at the Sachem Library in Holbrook, Zeldin argued with the moderator after she told him that his remarks were inappropriate.
Zeldin stormed off the stage, leaving, the ...more
By HamptonClassic (75), Southampton on Oct 31, 18 12:33 PM
Unhinged!

Angry!

Mob!
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Oct 31, 18 12:34 PM
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The AR-15 and its variants have become the gun of choice in the deadliest mass shootings in recent years. Congress outlawed the manufacture of assault weapons in 1994, but lawmakers allowed the ban to expire in 2004.
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Oct 31, 18 12:57 PM
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please define "assault weapon", thanks.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Oct 31, 18 4:04 PM
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dfree is factually inaccurate on a number of his assertions, but then neither he nor Mr. Perry have Clue #1 about "assault weapons."

P.S. - "assault" is a behavior, not an object so they need to stop rattling AR-15s and deal with criminal behavior.



By Frank Wheeler (1802), Northampton on Nov 1, 18 12:57 AM
AR-15's is the weapon of choice for mass shooting murders. What else do you need to know about banning them.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 8:58 AM
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Unsupportable! A popular and fatuous hoplophobic assertion by mindless Progressives who know only that they fear an inanimate object because the AR-15 has been criminally mis-used by a number of anti-social mental defectives.

Fact: the two largest mass murders in the history of the United States were committed with a truckload of fertilizer and diesel fuel (Oklahoma City) and a match and a gallon of gasoline (Happyland).

Deal with the actor, and not the instrument!



By Frank Wheeler (1802), Northampton on Nov 1, 18 12:05 PM
Now talk about the recent and far more relevant spate of mass shootings instead of terrorist acts that are 20+ years old.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 18 12:19 PM
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"Mr. Gershon, how do you plan to pay for your Medicare For All Plan?"

"I can't talk right now, I have chocolate all over my hands''
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Oct 31, 18 2:14 PM
Lets go Lee. I have meet Gershon personally, and he was very inconsiderate and not a pleasant person. Had two questions for him and completely blew me off. Lee I asked got answers right away. Perry take your dirty politics somewhere else. Our economy is going great and keep up the great work Lee. After the flyer put out yesterday shows how low these democrats will go and how they actually hurt our communities instead of trying to make them better for the tax payers.
By watchoutnow968 (14), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 5:59 AM
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In reality Tuesday is the most important day during our lifetimes. I believe the outcome is already set in stone, we just need Tuesday to find out what it is.

If Republicans hold the house and gain in the Senate then America still has a chance of surviving. If Dems win even the house it will let us know the American people no longer really care about the responsibility of being FREE.
By joe hampton (3213), The Hamptons on Nov 1, 18 7:47 AM
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If I picked an election day as the most important day in my life, it'd probably be a presidential election.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 18 8:01 AM
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In reality Tuesday (every single Tuesday) is the most important day during our lifetimes (not my lifetime but all of humanities collective lifetimes). I believe the outcome is already set in stone (although only a fraction of nationwide votes have been cast), we just need Tuesday (any Tuesday will do) to find out what it is.

If Democrats gain the house and hold the Senate then perhaps education spending will increase and our children will learn science, sex-ed, how to properly use a comma ...more
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 9:27 AM
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Of course Aeshtron when you wake up and open your eyes you will see the Dem run state of NY has some of the highest spending on education and the lowest State scores especially on the east end. Its a disgrace how this state educates its children especially in the inner cities. Look at your own district. You should be ashamed! Of course the truth hurts doesn't it. Keep your eyes closed.
By realistic (453), westhampton on Nov 1, 18 10:00 AM
@ Realistic, I would be interested and openminded to a response from you that provides evidence that my following conclusion is incorrect. I woke up today around 7:00am, open my eyes everyday and embrace truth and knowledge : ) I am not ashamed of Southampton School District, earned my HS diploma there and believe Southampton teachers/administrators are doing an excellent job. What follows is a TLDR analysis of "state scores" which shows that neither NYS or the east end lags behind nationwide ...more
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 11:27 AM
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Your comment is exactly what the real problem is in our country. I have many conservative friends who I agree to disagree with. Democrats don't spend all their energy demonizing the GOP - they discuss issues and try and solve problems. The world will not end if we have some balance in our democracy. We are not being invaded and there is no democratic mob. Just regular people who believe in something different.
By Shawbie (3), Hampton bays on Nov 1, 18 11:55 AM
Aeshtron, You made my point. You want to throw more $$ at education and think it will get better results. You admit you spend 2x the average and you get the same horribly results. Not sure if you realize this but kids today are in a global environment. The US has pitiful education results. College grads compete globally for jobs. Southampton is ranked #212 in NY. With the $$ spent you should be competing in the top 10. your college results are also poor. I am surprised you boast of this poor performance. ...more
By realistic (453), westhampton on Nov 1, 18 12:39 PM
It is very easy to attack someone else's record when you yourself do not have one to defend.
By cmac (154), East Quogue on Nov 1, 18 8:07 AM
LEE ALL THE WAY - REPUBLICAN

RED ACROSS THE BOARD

BETTER FUTURE FOR OUR FAMILIES - KEEP HARD EARNED $$$$

By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 18 11:25 AM
Vote Conservative to let RINOS know how we feel about them.MAGA!!!
By Taz (495), East Quogue on Nov 1, 18 11:43 AM
Make America Great Again - VOTE BLUE!!
By Shawbie (3), Hampton bays on Nov 1, 18 11:57 AM
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Assault weapons are the guns that killed all those elementary school children in Connecticut and their teachers who tried to protect them.

Fun fact: Mississippi does not require a license to carry a concealed weapon. Congressman Zeldin voted to allow gun toting Mississippi psychopaths to have the legal right to come to the East End of Long Island and carry their concealed weapons here. He did this so he could collect NRA money, some of which is contributed by the criminals that support ...more
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 1, 18 12:13 PM
Um HELLO !!! The Assault Weapon didn't kill anyone!!

The PSYCHOPATH who pulled the Trigger did!!

Wake up!! AMERICA

THANK GOD WE FINALLY HAVE A PRESIDENT NOT A POLITICIAN
ITS ABOUT THE PEOPLE AND GROWING OUR COMMUNITIES .

WE WORK TOO HARD FOR OUR MONEY I'M NOT HAVING ANYONE TAKE MY HARD EARNED MONEY SO PEOPLE WHO DON'T WORK CAN GET FREE STUFF

Enough already - GET JOBS - EARN YOUR OWN MONEY
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 18 12:31 PM
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Maybe it shouldn't be so easy for psychopaths to get an AR-15. How about that?
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 12:33 PM
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How are there free-stuffers? According to the tangerine toddler everybody is working. Stop playing the Faux news victim. The biggest part of your taxes are for the military and interest on our debt, (remember tax cuts for the rich). Stop crying, pay your share of taxes and be thankful you live in an America that is still empathetic and compassionate. (Remember your supposed to be the party of family and christian values.) You wouldn't last two hours doing the work Latinos do on the East End.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 12:39 PM
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Great comment, guns don’t kill people. Didn’t the psychopath pull the trigger of a GUN?lets let the slaughter of men , women and children continue. Yeah, wake up America.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 12:39 PM
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Yeah, wake up to the fact you have a right to defend yourself, a right that leftist democrats want to take away from you. You never talk about banning a car after someone mows down a group of people. Airplanes killed 3,000 in NYC, I still see the planes flying. A crazy woman stabbed 5 at a birth tourism clinic in NYC, still have knives.

You want to be afraid of the world, go hide in a hole. Take away my rights you better be damn ready to have some of your stripped from you!
By Preliator Lives (317), Obamavillie on Nov 1, 18 12:55 PM
Preliator, I’m not afraid of the world. I don’t have to be armed to be safe, anywhere.spare me the car and knife analogy, it’s the lamest thing you can say. Next time you see someone pull a Buick out of a backpack and murder 9 people let me know.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 1:09 PM
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Nice try p......r, keeping mental defectives away from AR-15's is a good first step. Maybe you should be checked as well. What rights would you like stripped from me?
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 2:01 PM
There are a plethora of requirements to own a car like licensing, insurance, and registration.

We also responded to the 9/11 attacks with robust legislation to make flying more secure.

Why is there so much resistance to a legislative response for mass shootings?

Do Republicans have any suggestions other than "NO"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 18 2:05 PM
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Has Obama come for your guns yet?

Idiots...
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 2, 18 6:12 AM
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Obama?

Z, do you need a welfare check? You know it's 2018, right?
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 2, 18 9:04 AM
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The left is getting dumber by the day.
By themarlinspike (38), southampton on Nov 2, 18 9:21 AM
He's obviously pointing out how dumb the fear of Obama "coming for your guns" was: it never happened.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 11:49 AM
The Democrat bill proposing a ban on over 200 firearms was very real.

It's also very real that almost 50 percent of Democrats are in favor of a ban on handguns and 39% would out right appeal the second amendment.
Nov 4, 18 2:38 PM appended by Po Boy
"Has Obama come for your guns yet?" Clearly, Z made it a point to add "yet" for distinction, so in 2018, the offer of the welfare check remains because he seems to at minimum have instances indicating he's not aware Donald Trump is President.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 2:38 PM
Po boy, quick, go stock up on more guns. Never know when you might need 20 guns to defend yourself.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 2:46 PM
What business is my exercise of the Second Amenthat Right any business of yours?
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 6:05 PM
It’s none of my business. Go exercise away. But when your rights start infringing on my rights, I have an opinion.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 6:19 PM
Glad we cleared that up. But those rights ensure your rights.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:51 PM
Think of this, There have been mass shootings across the country. Innocent American citizens have been murdered and massacred. What has the great law and order chimpanzee-in-charge has done, nada, zilch, zero. That's right, nothing except thoughts and prayers. Bring your thoughts and prayers to the voting booth and make a change.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 12:31 PM
Think of this, the likelihood of being killed in mass shooting is 0.00000143%.

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 2, 18 9:24 AM
Thank GOD for our Military !! Our Family as well as MANY American Families Believe in our Military - Thank You Lee Zeldin for your Service to our Country and the People.
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 18 1:11 PM
We can be thankful to the military, but that doesn't mean he is a qualified public servant. How many butchered and massacred Americans does it take you to make changes? With all these deaths, Zeldin thinks no action is necessary.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 2:04 PM
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It's well known that Zeldin was unliked by his peers in the military and his record is less than stellar. If he didn't instill confidence in his own men, why should he install confidence in the people of the 1st district?
By johnj (910), Westhampton on Nov 1, 18 1:26 PM
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Come to this Country the way my Grandparents came here !!! LEGALLY
If you can't follow the laws before you get here WHAT makes anyone think they will follow laws once they are here and taking everything they can for FREE!! Which means taking from the Hard working American Citizens. Follow the Rules of Law or STAY OUT. Its quite simple Thank God we have a President who Stands up to the NONSENSE and CARES ABOUT AMERICA FIRST.

That's Right AMERICA-
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 18 2:12 PM
You mean when all you had to do was show up at Ellis Island?

That's what open borders actually looks like.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 18 2:18 PM
You must have been there Right?
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 18 2:40 PM
Nope, I have no idea when your grandparents came here, that's why it's phrased in the form of a question.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 18 3:23 PM
There were virtually no immigration laws till the 1920s. Only 1% of people were turned away, unless you were Chinese. There was no legality of entry.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 3:29 PM
That's right, my child matters, your grandparents showed up when we had open borders. You were processed in four to five hours, if you came through Ellis Island. Maybe your grandparents are illegal, do you have papers?
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 7:25 PM
Barack Hussein Obama deported and removed more illegals than all the other Presidents combined. Didn't know that little fact did you my chid matters?
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 7:31 PM
"than all the other Presidents combined"

You're a LIAR Mets fan!
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 2, 18 8:57 AM
Thank God that's changed! What part of ILLEGAL are you unable to understand?! Coming here ILLEGALLY MAKES THAT PERSON'S PRESENCE IN THIS COUNTRY ILLEGAL, comprende?? Why are you in favor of criminal activity? I realize it's oh so fashionable with the alt left set , but please try to answer why you condone this criminal behavior.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 1, 18 5:04 PM
Recognizing that some people shouldn't be deported, such as those who arrived as minors through no choice of their own and have grown up in the U.S., is not equivalent to saying all people present themselves illegally should be allowed to stay.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 18 5:26 PM
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Big duck, time for your daily dose of foolishness? You project your lame accusations on anyone who doesn’t agree with you 110%. Spare me the holier the thou accusations. Get a life. Then maybe you can get some REAL facts to back up your bs. I put real in caps like you used to say about facts, that was till you were called on your non existent facts. No bread for you big duck.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 5:31 PM
I still don’t understand liberal “logic” on this. If my father robbed a bank/defrauded thousands and stole their money/embezzled or did some other illegal act where he ended up with several millions that he only got through illegal means when I was a small child, and because of that illegal money I grew up to be a teen who drove a BMW, lived in a big mansion, had three vacation homes, had expensive jewelry, and went to a luxury private school. Are you saying if my father was finally ...more
By localEH (342), East Hampton on Nov 1, 18 6:27 PM
OK Bitter Freddy, obviously you have no answer as to why you condone criminal behavior so you resorted to personal attacks , again. Weak sauce again, no surprise as you have no excuse for your choice to favor illegal invaders over American citizens. PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!! Chew on that
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 1, 18 6:37 PM
Big duck, you insult on these threads more then anyone. You fake moral high ground is truly sad.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 6:50 PM
James Buchanan was elected president, so honestly it's really not the end all be all of existence if one is elected.

Americans have elected s****y leaders before, and will again...
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 1, 18 7:29 PM
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Zeldin is a disgrace. Like his lord & master, the white nationalist, racist and brainless taliking head whio's in bed with murderers in Saudi Arabia and Moscow. And plans to dismantle the Constitution. Anyone who supports Zeldon/Trump is colluding in the destruction of our democracy.
By Jolly Roger (20), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 6:41 PM
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There is nothing logical about liberalism locale, absolutely nothing at all. It is a symptom of serious psychological illness as witnessed here multiple times daily. They are still butt hurt over the FACT that President Trump beat the corrupt and morally bankrupt Hillary Rodham Clinton, like a mob of petulant , spoiled children they are still in the throes of an epic temper tantrum. Pitiful really.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 1, 18 6:41 PM
Only an idiot or a fool would not see Trump as morally bankrupt. And, lacking true scruples or a decent ethos.

"Stupid is, as stupid does."
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 1, 18 7:22 PM
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By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 7:29 PM
So big duck, your post isn’t an insult?
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 6:59 PM
If you choose to be insulted by FACTS that's your choice, you alt leftists are all about choice right? Or does that only count when championing murdering babies in utero?
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 1, 18 8:09 PM
Big duck , your short on facts , long on bs.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 8:39 PM
According to El Salvadoran government spokesman, Roberto Lorenzana, El Salvador is coordinating with the US, stating that any Salvadorans who arrive at the US border are to be deported. The Salvadoran government has launched an investigation into the illegal manipulation by caravan coordinators of the low-income migrant families, and their false guarantees of asylum and refuge in the US.

Sounds like the corrupt government doesn’t want their US funding cut.
By SDG1776 (114), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 7:28 PM
Short term memory problem in this country for sure.

Anyone recall the Reagan administration funding and operating the El Salvadoran civil war? Training forces that would become death squads, which murdered untold thousands of civilians. Neoliberal economic policies have done their fair share of harm as well in recent decades.

Sorry boys and girls, but this is the chickens coming home to roost, as it were.
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 1, 18 7:39 PM
Short term memory problem for those over 40, erased from the history books and/or covered up all together. Reagan’s foreign policy was largely responsible for the conditions in El Salvador today.
By SDG1776 (114), Southampton on Nov 1, 18 8:42 PM
We the people SPOKE LOUD AND CLEAR in the presidential election we choose the BEST candidate for the job. FACTS show everything he ran for he continues to fight for. We the people DONT want a sneaky politician we want people who WILL GET THE JOB DONE Regardless of all the crap they have to cut through to make it happen. Thank God for President Trump for ALL THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS so far!!! He will get so much more done for EVERYONE so stop crying and whining and start working together to make the future ...more
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 18 8:27 PM
Mychild, trump didn’t win the majority of votes in his election.the people spoke, but not for trump.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 6:02 AM
Oh yes We DID , Who is the President !!! That's right
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 8:07 AM
A potato
By johnj (910), Westhampton on Nov 2, 18 10:20 AM
The only thing he ran on was a divisive America, which he succeeded. Plus he gave himself a tax cut. Remember these words, I'm going to build a wall and Mexico is paying for it. Not one piece of any immigration reform bill, nada. I have a really great plan for healthcare. I'm going to rebuild the nation's infrastructure. I'm going to be the law and order President. We the people spoke loud and clear, 63,000,000 for Trump, 74,000,000 against.. You keep trying to convince yourself your in the majority, ...more
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:56 AM
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Still crying I see... Well I hope you didn't accept your tax breaks, or any 401K benefits due to the amazing Stock Rise or the fact that The President works everyday harder and harder than any president in recent years. Thank God we don't have a Politician in office we have the business man that gets the work done. Is a master negotiator with ALL Countries ALWAYS looking out for AMERICA,. Thank God we have a strong person in office that isn't afraid to STAND UP FOR OUR RIGHTS. And not illegals!! ...more
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 8:14 AM
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What amazing stock rise are you talking about? The one with Barack Obama with the stock market going from 8,000 to 19,000. Still playing the Faux news victim. Take a good look around our community, hard working Latinos are doing every crap job out there and are happy to do them. Why are Latinos here doing these jobs? Because they can't get people here to do these jobs. Stop crying about how much taxes you pay, you pay very little. Don't worry, your flag wrapped General Bone Spurs is out there with ...more
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 9:04 AM
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@mychildmatters: The pissant tax "breaks" already worthless because of increased gas prices and inflation in general? The ones with an expiration date unlike the massive permanent breaks he gave himself and his rich friends? Damn, you're dim. And the "amazing Stock Rise" that has the market back to where it started the day the orange grifter was inaugurated? "Master negotiator"? The dealer and bankruptcy king any and all are mocking for his laughable "skills" wherein he gives away the store? ...more
Nov 2, 18 10:52 AM appended by June Bug
oh yeah, and just you wait until next year when the effects of the grifters trade wars really kick in. And how's about that national debt generations to come of us will be paying off thanks to the tax breaks for the rich. You're being royally screwed and you like it?
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 10:52 AM
Mets Fan, It’s not that they can’t get people to do the work, many employers don’t want to pay legal payroll overhead, seeking out illegal labor to increase their bottom lines. Legal payroll overhead adds as much as 40% onto the cost of conducting “legitimate” business which includes paying Worker’s comp, SUI, liability insurance, and employer’s share of FICA/Medicare contributions. I know many highly skilled artisan contractors and tradespeople, as well ...more
By Dawn_O (41), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 10:58 AM
@Dawn_O: You outline what is persistently overlooked: employers who illegally hire the undocumented and go unscathed in the debate. Think if they behaved "legally", we'd be having one? Instead, we have the old story of the powerful vs. the powerless, and human beings who are dependent and on whom we depend, but revile. You are right it is disgusting.
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 11:22 AM
June Bug, I am in total agreement with you. I made the suggestion in a prior comment that illegal immigrants are the exploited victims, yet reviled. Cause and effect need to be defined, illegal immigrants not being the cause, the cause being persistently overlooked. I agree that we would not be having this debate if as much attention were given to the cause as is given to the more often “demonization” of the illegal immigrant, particularly under this administration.
Nov 2, 18 11:59 AM appended by Dawn_O
Unfortunately Mets Fan is quite wrong. I’ve worked with immigration attorneys in the recent past to attain H-2B visas for positions similar to those he described. H-2B visas were denied after running help wanted ads in local classifieds due to positions being able to be filled by a ready, willing, and able, documented workerforce. Convincing evidence of a documented labor shortage couldn’t be established in fields similar to the ones he described. One of my college educated American co-workers is laughing right now as I’m writing this, having been a dishwasher at Mirko’s, supplementing his regular full-time day job.
By Dawn_O (41), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 11:59 AM
The issue is that steps to hamper the ability of big business to exploit undocumented workers are widely and strongly opposed by...big money!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 12:06 PM
I agree. Hiring undocumented workers isn’t fair to anyone involved. These practices do not occur in a vacuum.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 12:06 PM
Yes, I'm sure you can find plenty of locals to trim hedges from dawn to dusk in the hot summer heat. Or clean dishes at a restaurant. These are your right wing brethren doing the hiring since leftists don't work and get free stuff. Where are the labor enforcers? Oh, that's right, the big wink-wink!!
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 12:16 PM
@Dawn_O: Also lost is the fact that the official who "opened the floodgates" was the sainted hero of those who kvetch the loudest: one Ronald Wilson Reagan who went to bat for his California corporate farming buddies when the grape pickers went on strike and they needed workers.
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 4:07 PM
more temper tantrums on display from our resident leftists.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 2, 18 7:09 AM
Nowhere near as prolific as the twit in chief.
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 2, 18 10:01 PM
I refuse to believe that the citizens of NY-1 are dumb enough to vote for a guy who has done nothing in his life for anyone but himself. The only person Perry Gershon ever served was Perry Gershon
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 7:18 AM
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They voted for Trump, didn't they?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 10:31 AM
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Black Voter Approval for Trump Hits Yearly High After ‘Blexit’Black voter approval of President Trump hit the year’s high at 40 percent this week, according to daily tracking by Rasmussen Reports.
The high-water mark comes right after the “Blexit,” or “Black exit from the Democratic Party,” movement spearheaded by Turning Point’s Candace Owens was launched over the weekend, which drew thousands of young African Americans to Washington, DC.Blacks ...more
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 2, 18 7:40 AM
How's this for the lying carnival barker. Ivana Trump became a citizen in 1988. All three kids were born before that. So much for birthright citizenship.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 10:17 AM
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Except for the pesky factual detail that the father was a... anyone, anyone... a U.S. citizen, which, makes them....anyone anyone.... a U.S. citizen. Two completely different issues Mf.

....so willfully ill-informed, the hatred is blinding and delusional.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 2, 18 10:53 AM
All of us libtards and wingnuts impotently posting here, myself included, are convincing no one to change their mind and we are all wasting our time/energy rather than productively handling more important business. Having said that, I will continue to waste some of my time here. The real beneficiary is The Press News Group (I like the Press!) whose advertising revenue is dependent on page-views. Bravo to The Press, FB and others for presciently profiting from the deep divisions in contemporary ...more
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 11:26 AM
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Whether or not we're changing the minds of the people we're speaking to, I like to think there's a "silent majority" of people who choose not to comment but instead listen to both sides and make up their own minds.

And regardless of how fruitful or fruitless engagement is in the marketplace of ideas, isn't it fun?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 11:52 AM
You must be born to a legal citizen to be a citizen

Under US jurisdiction. It’s not a gray area.
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 1:12 PM
Are undocumented people in the U.S. not subject to the jurisdiction thereof?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 1:41 PM
Up is down and down is up and black is white and double bacon cheeseburgers are a healthy breakfast everyday and it's okay to grab women on their chocha without consent and politicians who violently bodyslam reporters are my kind of people and random comments on the internet make it so and fake news and biggest witch hunt ever and there is widespread voter fraud that can not be found and people with brown skin are scary and women belong in the kitchen and old white men should choose for helpless ...more
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 1:47 PM
Slimey, from FindLaw ....In most situations, any child that is born in the United States or one of its territories will automatically receive American citizenship. This is called "birthright citizenship" and is protected by the 14th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which (in Section 1) states the following:

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

However, ...more
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 1:22 PM
I attended the debate in Hampton Bays. Zeldin prevailed.Gershon was wrong. He is a carpetbagger. Gershon was incorrect about social security. Age adjustments must be made. Wrong on climate change. The Paris accord was a useless flop which would not have affected anything and would've cost us billions.

Gershon's support of Medicare for all would be disastrous. Seniors who paid in advance for 40 years would have diminished care. Everybody else would have socialized medicine that would be ...more
By Nelson99 (1), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 3:28 PM
Alec Baldwin Arrested After Fight Over Manhattan Parking Spot...
Followed, Punched Driver...Hopitalized.

Wow, he actually punched a man?
I'm shocked, his MO is beating up women!
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 2, 18 4:00 PM
RECORD 156,562,000 EMPLOYED

OCTOBER JOBS: +250K...

TRUMPS ECONOMY ADDING 1,000 MANUFACTURING JOBS PER DAY...

HISPANIC UNEMPLOYMENT ALL TIME LOW...

WAGE GAINS STRONGEST IN DECADE...

POLL: TRUMP APPROVAL 51%...

Keep America Great !
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 2, 18 4:03 PM
Here’s the most unsurprising things I’ve read today. From VanityFair...... in an interview with Michael l Cohen.......During our conversation, Cohen recalled a discussion at Trump Tower, following the then-candidate’s return from a campaign rally during the 2016 election cycle. Cohen had watched the rally on TV and noticed that the crowd was largely Caucasian. He offered this observation to his boss. “I told Trump that the rally looked vanilla on television. Trump responded, ...more
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 4:32 PM
Blexit and WalkAway movements terrify globalist Dems

LBJ now we'll have those (N word) voting for us for 200 years after he signed the Great Society Legislation that put African Americans right back on the Plantation as vote slaves for the Regressives.

The ONLY time Regressives seem to remember the black community is once every two years for the votes.

They are walking away because President Trump made them promises and he has KEPT those promises not just to African Americans ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:08 PM
Not one mention of Kanye? Could've seen that coming.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 5:21 PM
still respect him
By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:31 PM
Still not one mention of Alex the hole! Could've seen that coming.
By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:34 PM
Have I ever heralded Alec Baldwin as a voice of reason? I don't think so.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 2, 18 6:03 PM
27 dan - 51% - you and who else? LOL

NO MORE LYIN LEE
DOWN THE DRAIN HE GOES
REAL HEALTHCARE FOR ALL IN NY01


By allpeoplecount (58), eastport on Nov 2, 18 4:52 PM
Watch Live: Donald Trump Hosts Huge Rally in Huntington, WV, Meanwhile, the Kenyan is down in Florida with the media showing only closeups of his mug because they don't the world to see what size crowds he draws...God bless our President!!
By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:36 PM
Chim chim, “a leopard never changes its spots”
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:56 PM

By AIMEE PICCHI
MONEYWATCH
September 28, 2018
West Virginia poverty gets worse under Trump economy, not better
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 7:56 PM
Whopping 62 percent of jobs don't support middle-class life after accounting for cost of living

Paul Davidson, USA TODAY Published 5:01 a.m. ET Oct. 30, 2018 | Updated 2:54 p.m. ET Oct. 30, 2018
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 2, 18 10:06 PM
if that is true mr z then i wonder why is it that a 10,000 plus invasion " caravan " that is 85 % men of working age trying to bust the border as we speak ?
By Erin 27 E (1108), hampton bays on Nov 3, 18 9:57 AM
Exchange rate.

There truly is a critical thought deficit 'round these parts...
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 4, 18 2:52 PM
The birthright citizenship dialogue is exactly where we need to be.
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Nov 2, 18 5:41 PM
Ha, here's some "dialogue" for you, Slime....
Ivana trump didn't become a naturalized American citizen until 1988, years after Donnie Jr, Eric and Ivanka were born. There, the birther has three birthright kids his own self....Can't make his continual crap up....
And dja' know it’s become a status symbol in Russia to have a Miami-born baby, who gets a U.S. passport because they were born on American soil? Wealthy Russian white women are coming to Florida to give ...more
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 18 8:37 PM
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Capitalism at it's finest...
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 2, 18 10:03 PM
New jobs figures boost GOP ahead of midterms
Trump: 'Incredible ... Keep it going, Vote Republican!"

Labor Department figures released Friday showed the largest year-over-year increase in wages since 2009, an additional 250,000 jobs in October, Hispanic unemployment at an all-time low and an average of 1,000 new manufacturing jobs created every day.


Trump: “Wow! The U.S. added 250,000 Jobs in October – and this was despite the hurricanes. Unemployment at 3.7%. ...more
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 3, 18 12:14 AM
How's that trade war and capitulation going? Likely to wipe out any wage "gains"? How many of these jobs are part time and seasonal for the holidays? The steady progress since 2011 has led to an acceleration in wages of 3.1% over the previous year. However, consumer prices rose by 2.3%.

Thusly, an hour of work buys just 0.8% more now than a year ago, which is a DECREASE compared to 2015 and 2016.


Cheerleading and scratching the surface is just sad...
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 3, 18 8:01 AM
like i said if that is true mr z then i wonder why is it that a 10,000 plus invasion " caravan " that is 85 % men of working age trying to bust the border as we speak ?
By Erin 27 E (1108), hampton bays on Nov 3, 18 9:58 AM
President Trump’s first 3 children did not receive birthright citizenship
By CHLOE KIM
November 1, 2018
CORRECTION: The headline on this story has been corrected to show that Trump’s first three children did not receive birthright citizenship.

The Associated Press reviewed this story after it was surfaced to third-party fact checkers as part of an initiative with Facebook to assess the accuracy of news content.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: Mixture. It’s ...more
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 10:04 AM
Worse than that "birther" nonsense.
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 4, 18 12:03 AM
Better living through modern chemistry:

PFOA
PFOS
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 2, 18 10:18 PM
Trump Derangement Syndrome = Violent Outbursts !
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 3, 18 12:06 AM
If everything Trump has done is so terrible, why is obama taking credit for it?
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 6:09 AM
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The US stock market is a barometer of economic activity and since President Trump was elected President it has skyrocketed.

The stock market on Wednesday, January 17th, 2018, said it all. On that day the Dow broke 26,000 points for the first time in its history. As a result the Dow broke the record for the fastest 500, 1,000, 2,000, 3,000, 4,000, 5,000, 6,000 and 7,000 point increases between major milestones in the history of the Dow. All of these increases occurred since Donald Trump ...more
Nov 3, 18 9:43 AM appended by 27dan
The DOW today stands at nearly 40% up from where it was in November of 2016, the day of the election!
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 3, 18 9:43 AM
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For years I've been telling anyone who would listen that we needed a President who was a business man, not a politician. I never thought that person would come in the form of Donald Trump. To say that I'm pleased with his performance would be an understatement. The President has far exceeded my expectations and I look forward to 6 more years of continued success. He is indeed making America great again.
Nov 3, 18 9:47 AM appended by Ditch Bum
THE TRUMP ECONOMY CONTINUES TO SURGE The U.S. economy created some 250,000 jobs in October, beating expectations, Not even Jared Bernstein, former economic adviser to Joe Biden, could put a negative spin on Friday’s jobs report. The U.S. economy created some 250,000 jobs in October, beating expectations. The labor participation rate increased even as unemployment held steady at 3.7 percent. That’s a 50-year low. The best part: Wages rose 3 percent in the highest rate of growth since the Great Recession a decade ago. “Pretty much everything you could want in a monthly jobs report,” Bernstein tweeted.
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 3, 18 9:47 AM
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FAKE NEWS:
“The unemployment number, as you know, is totally fiction. If you look for a job for six months and then you give up, they consider you give up. You just give up. You go home. You say, ‘Darling, I can’t get a job.’ They consider you statistically employed. It’s not the way. But don’t worry about it because it’s going to take care of itself pretty quickly.”
— Donald Trump, remarks at an rally in Des Moines, Dec. 8, 2016
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 3, 18 10:40 AM
D you should get outside more! Help wanted signs are everywhere you look ! Consumer confidence is off the scale.

THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP !

Six Ways Donald Trump Has Defeated Democrat Mobs with More Jobs

Democrat attempts to sell an anti-Trump economic message have fallen flat as the booming economy makes their doom and gloom message increasingly less believable.
In the absence of a coherent message, Democrats have resorted to encouraging “extremist” ...more
Nov 3, 18 10:49 AM appended by They call me
Democrats are really arrogant, to assume voters don't understand how much better off they are with the big demand for workers as well as extra money in their pockets.
By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 3, 18 10:49 AM
"The numbers may have been fake before, but they're certainly not fake now"

-Former Trump Press Secretary calling everyone idiots to their faces.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 18 11:17 AM
Here's how the stock market is a barometer of economic activity: In a low employment climate with wages going up investors worry about inflation and central bank reaction, stock prices go down and bond yields can rise. Retirement accounts likely to shrink, mortgage and other interest rates follow suit, people reduce their spending, companies find it harder to invest, buying a home becomes more expensive, all adding up to a weaker economy. Sorry to inform, Mr, dan, your sugar high won't last. ...more
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 3, 18 11:57 AM
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If somehow Democrats really do take the house in midterms, they will stall President Trump’s economic policies, It’s amazing that anyone would vote for these Alt leftists especially when Mad Maxine Waters is advocating for banana republic-like payback schemes in her possible position as Chairman of the House Financial Services Committee.

That would stall the economy - that's why millions will vote GOP in a few days.

Want to see the stock market crash? Give congress ...more
By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 3, 18 12:53 PM
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His "policy" is destined to stall itself.

Trade wars are easy, eh?
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 4, 18 9:39 AM
For 10 years this country had an assault weapons ban. Did you notice or care when this ban was in place? It's only Since Russian government connected criminals started donating large amounts of money to the NRA that this became an issue.
Since Congress let the ban lapse we have had an ever increasing number of mass shootings by disturbed men who want to impose their death penalty on school children, people praying in church and members of Congress as well as any other targets they want to ...more
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 3, 18 10:09 AM
In reality Tuesday is the most important day during our lifetimes. I believe the outcome is already set in stone, we just need Tuesday to find out what it is.

If Republicans hold the house and gain in the Senate then America still has a chance of surviving. If Dems win even the house it will let us know the American people no longer really care about the responsibility of being FREE.

According to the Constitution, the Second Amendment is not obsolete until and unless two-thirds ...more
By joe hampton (3213), The Hamptons on Nov 3, 18 10:37 AM
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can you prove your assertion that "Russian government connected CRIMINALS started donating large amounts to the NRA that this became an issue." Thanks
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 3, 18 11:22 AM
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@ Joe hampton -- What are the obstacles to legally owning a firearm on Eastern Long Island? Anyone with a NYS drivers license, who hasn't been found guilty of certain crimes can easily and relatively quickly purchase a variety of rifles and shotguns from Benson in Coram, LI Gun Source in Medford or Dark Storm in Oakdale. A NYS Compliant AR15 starts at $850. Anyone over 18 may keep it unlocked anywhere in their Suffolk County home. I genuinely miss Edwards in Riverhead which until recently was ...more
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 7:22 PM
It is a crime, potentially punishable with prison time, to donate or use foreign money in U.S. election campaigns.

Google these names of criminals connected with the Russian government with "NRA":

Alexander Torshin:
Spanish police had planned to arrest Torshin in 2013 when he arrived in Mallorca for a friend's birthday party, but he did not arrive. Spanish police speculated he might have been tipped off by Russian authorities.
In 2018, wiretappings from the Spanish police ...more
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 4, 18 8:25 AM
So, to recap..."For months, Senate Democrats have been seeking to determine whether the NRA has received money from any Russian sources, and if it did...."

Same crap different day...rather than temper allegations until such time ANY substantiated proof should be found, the Left-wing extremist Left runs with it as if it were proven gospel. IT'S SO OLD!!

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 5:44 PM
Armed we are citizens, unarmed we are subjects.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 3, 18 11:00 AM
How insightful
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 11:08 AM
Thanks Bitter Freddy, there may be hope for you after all.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 3, 18 4:03 PM
It was sarcasm big duck. You never have anything insightful to say.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 4:29 PM
as was mine, good Lord you're thick!
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 3, 18 5:46 PM
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And your a genius? That’s laughable.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 7:41 PM
New York Times: ‘Best Time’ for American Employees in Maybe 50 Years
February's NFP report confirms strength of Trump economy.AP Photo/Charlie Riedel
3 Nov 2018
The New York Times said on November 2 that President Donald Trump’s high-pressure economy “is the best time for the American labor market in at least 18 years and maybe closer to 50.” Wage growth, long considered the “missing ingredient” to the economic expansion, has finally returned. ...more
By joe hampton (3213), The Hamptons on Nov 3, 18 5:25 PM
Can’t find that story , just breitbart.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 5:42 PM
Always questioning the source but fail to address the FACTS, classic alt left BRAVO SIERRA, well done Komrade, well done.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 3, 18 5:49 PM
Pretty simple to find you go to goolgle and do a search

THE NEW YORK TIMES
The Upshot
By Neil Irwin
Nov. 2, 2018

By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 3, 18 5:56 PM
Big duck, facts have to be verified, something you never do. Your so full of yourself.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 6:15 PM
Ud, let me get this straight. The failing fake news New York Times is being used as fact by the very same people who say it’s not fact. I got it . In regards to joe hamptons post, it’s a breitbart story, not a n nyt story. Things are cherrypicked from the story. You people wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you on the a_ _. Good try joe, same bs as always.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 7:17 PM
well at least you now admit it was in print in the Alt lefts beloved NYT. People can now judge the story and the facts their in for themselves
By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 3, 18 7:44 PM
Ud, I have no idea if it was or not, your beloved fake news site breitbart implied it was. The point is, I have no idea if the story is printed out of context.show the original NYT story, then we can tell.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 3, 18 8:13 PM
Of course it was quoted out of context. In fact, the primary questions the article asks are whether wage growth will be sustained, and whether it will keep up with inflation.
Nov 3, 18 9:46 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
But obviously a column that asks complex questions without providing any concrete answers is too nuanced for people who would rather be spoon-fed their opinions by Breitbart.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 18 9:46 PM
You will see this week WHEN WE HOLD THE HOUSE who is spoon-fed their opinions ! The media and there polls are full of garbage !
By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 4, 18 1:10 AM
"Why are the people who won the election so mad all the time?"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 4, 18 6:56 AM
We're not mad we are winning ... and for a reason promises made promises kept !
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 4, 18 9:51 AM
I grew up in Southampton, a town I loved and still do, and I am so sad to sad to read such horrible comments here. All the time.

I went to Tuckhahoe Elementary -itself a Native American name- then to Southampton High School.

Let me tell you- our African- American friends from the Hill or our Native American friends from the Res- it made no difference. They were our friends, great people we grew up with, our classmates and friends. Lifelong bonds forged.

I really ...more
By Hampton Bays (10), hampton bays on Nov 4, 18 1:51 AM
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I for one, a brown skinned American find it insulting that you conflate being a Fox news watcher with being of horrible opinion. I invite my neighbors of all race and gender to keep this booming economy growing and help stem the tide of illegal immigration. Vote for Lee Zelden
By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 4, 18 9:16 AM
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i think "our african american friends from the hill " are smart enough to make up there own minds on the issues and also what neighborhoods they choose to live!

we are not breaking any bonds.... actually conservatives like candace owens are encouraging all americans to break the bonds of a party that forgets about the neighborhoods they live in as soon as they exploit there vote.

all people are welcome walk away from the lefts plantation mentality and vote for the conservative ...more
By Erin 27 E (1108), hampton bays on Nov 4, 18 9:34 AM
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Erin, play a few highlight reels of the march in Charlottesville, that should convince many minority’s to join your party. Until you get rid of the white nationalist, neo nazis and other unsavory affiliations with your party, you’ll convince no one.your fear mongering president is no shining beacon on the hill.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 9:51 AM
oh i have watched those videos and I AGREE WITH YOU fred, everyone there that day had a racist mentality, neo nazis and black lives matter were looking for a fight. both of those groups are racist hate groups. its up to true Americans to stand up to that backward out of style thinking. its not what most of us in this country under 30 believe in our heart. all americans are equal and all lives matter.

unite americans, we are great !
By Erin 27 E (1108), hampton bays on Nov 4, 18 10:13 AM
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From the Economist.....ON AUGUST 15th Donald Trump repeated his belief that “both sides” were to blame for the violence on August 12th at a white-supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Virginia that left one woman dead. David Duke, a former leader of the Ku Klux Klan, thanked him for “condemn[ing] the leftist terrorists in BLM,” referring to the Black Lives Matter movement. David Clarke, the sheriff of Milwaukee County and a supporter of Mr Trump, has also called Black Lives ...more
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 10:51 AM
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if the shoe fits bitter Fred !
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 10:57 AM
Great come back
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 11:07 AM
Does ALL LIFE matter to you Freddy? White , black , brown and especially our boys and girls in blue? HMMMMMM?
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 4, 18 11:27 AM
Good foolish reply. Read the story from the economist, genius.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 11:49 AM
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A lot to expect, Fred.
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 4, 18 12:01 PM
From big ducks comments, I’d say he listens to trash radio. Gems like rush and that ilk. All blather no facts.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 12:26 PM
Any women and I mean ANY WOMAN that would support a Racist , Hate monger , Who treats women like prostitutes, and talks about women in sexual demeaning ways . LIKES being treated that way. Should vote for anything Trump .Real Women care about their children future with respect.
By 1percent (51), Quogue on Nov 4, 18 1:54 PM
Any women and I mean ANY WOMAN that would support a Racist , Hate monger , Who treats women like prostitutes, and talks about women in sexual demeaning ways . LIKES being treated that way. Should vote for anything Trump .Real Women care about their children future with respect.
By 1percent (51), Quogue on Nov 4, 18 1:55 PM
If the shoe fits ud
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 9:30 AM
Knowledge makes a man unfit to be a slave - Frederick Douglas

It's called ALINSKY'S RULES FOR RADICALS

"The organizer must begin the task of agitating: rubbing resentments, fanning the flames of hatred, searching out controversy, and stirring up dissatisfaction and discontent.” They can only prey on the weak and there are fewer and fewer everyday. A strong mind is a thing they fear most indeed.

Thanks to the TRUMP economy many Americans are finding financial freedom.
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 4, 18 9:48 AM
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I'll be voting for Perry Gershon this upcoming Tuesday because MS-13 is killing my children and I don't care. Also, I want to invite caravan after caravan of dangerous criminals into my country in order to destroy it. And I like chocolate!

Local ocean beaches are loaded with Bass this weekend : )
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 9:50 AM
Fishing has been on fire for the last 6 weeks , best fall in years! Both our commercial fleet and the sports are doing great.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 4, 18 11:24 AM
Its amazing that many if not most of Voters in our local Hamptons, Quogue , Southampton east end area would even consider voting for Zeldin , Zeldin is Donald Trump in Voice. A vote for Zeldin tells your Daughter , your Wife , your Mother you don't care about sexual bias,harrassement and discrimination. TELL YOUR CHILDREN you believe everything TRUMP tweets. Thats your Zeldin Vote. But if you are born and Bred to be a self absorbed , self righteous Eastender that cares only about the 1 percent ...more
By 1percent (51), Quogue on Nov 4, 18 1:46 PM
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Another liberal tantrum, yaaaaawn.. Liberal values? Liberals have no values.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 4, 18 6:42 PM
Big duck, go pray to rush, you need him
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 6:46 PM
an alt leftist speaking of prayer? is that sanctioned behavior?
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 4, 18 6:54 PM
Big duck, alt left is a made up thing from your commander in Chief. You gobble it up like a duck eating bread. Someday you will have something relevant to say. Up until this point it’s been regurgitated bs from right wing losers like Rush Limbaugh.all quack and no bite.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 5:21 AM
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Most of the voters not only consider voting for Mr. Zeldin, but actually DO vote for him because Mr. Zeldin is doing a great job representing ALL of District 1.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 2:30 PM
LEE ZELDIN 100%
Red Wave
America First
Anything else God help us all
Vote for Lee Zeldin Tuesday
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 4, 18 3:25 PM
LEE ZELDIN 100%
Red Wave
America First
Anything else God help us all
Vote for Lee Zeldin Tuesday
By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 4, 18 3:25 PM
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By mychildmatters (58), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 4, 18 3:25 PM
We have an epidemic of mass murder shootings across the country. Innocent American citizens are butchered and massacred. What has Lee Zeldin done? Nothing, zilch, nada, zero, just like the orange chimpanzee he worships. What is Lee planning to do, nothing, zilch, nada, zero. How is that possibly any type of leadership to vote for? I guess there isn't any amount of shooting deaths that Lee Zeldin would be moved to do anything. Think about that when you send your children to school, in religious worship, ...more
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 3:32 PM
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No, we don't have an epidemic of mass murder shootings across the country. We have an epidemic of black on black murder in major (Democratic) cities. To the contrary, public mass shootings account for a tiny fraction of the country’s gun deaths.
Nov 4, 18 5:32 PM appended by Po Boy
If a question must be asked, ask "why are gun murder statistics much higher in Democrat cities and why don't democrats care?"
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 5:32 PM
Po boy, don’t hesitate, go right for the kill.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 4, 18 5:40 PM
Year to date in Democrat Chicago:
Shot & Killed: 430
Shot & Wounded: 2170
Total Shot: 2600
Total Homicides: 503

Chance of being in a mass shooting: 0.00000143%.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 5:47 PM
@ Po Boy

Your response is a mixture of falsehood ("we don't have an epidemic of mass murder shootings ... "), irrelevance ("We have an epidemic of black on black murder ... ") and misdirection ("[M]ass shootings account for a tiny fraction of the country's gun death.")

The FACT is that mass-murder shootings have SURGED in the last few years*, PRECISELY as Mets fan asserts. Your mendacious, inane reply is entirely non-responsive.

(See the linear graphic in the referenced ...more
By highhatsize (3768), East Quogue on Nov 4, 18 8:53 PM
Easy access from your homophobe Pence state of Indiana. Walk right across to Gary, Indiana, buy any gun you want, no questions asked.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 5:49 AM
Fact is, it's a miniscule likelihood.

Mf stated - "not asserted" as you claim - "We have an epidemic of mass murder shootings across the country."

Fact is, there is a 0.00000143% chance in being involved in a mass shooting.

And that "misdirection" you mention is inconveniently more like "context" as referenced in your own source: "Public mass shootings are a small slice of gun deaths."

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 11:08 AM
From Wikipedia.....Gun violence in the United States results in tens of thousands of deaths and injuries annually. In 2013, there were 73,505 nonfatal firearm injuries (23.2 injuries per 100,000 persons), and 33,636 deaths due to "injury by firearms" (10.6 deaths per 100,000 persons
Nov 5, 18 11:43 AM appended by Fred s
To add 2/3’s of gun deaths are suicide
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 11:43 AM
And?

Are we now moving away from mass shootings and on to gun deaths as a whole?
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 12:14 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Mf stated - 'not asserted' as you claim ... "
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"Assert: to STATE or declare positively ... " (emphasis added)*

Again you display the signature intellectual torpor of the true believer. Could you not simply have consulted a dictionary before posting your ignorant opinion?
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Quote:

"And that 'misdirection' you mention ...more
By highhatsize (3768), East Quogue on Nov 5, 18 2:02 PM
Ah, I see. As is typical, you're more interested in quibbling than discussing relevant facts. Regardless of the number of mass shootings, the astronomical increase in population growth and corresponding number of guns owned correlate to what is miniscule odds and is hardly, "epidemic," as we come to know things like pandemic outbreaks, or widespread occurrences*, in fact, the data proves otherwise.


* Merriam-Webster
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 9:03 PM
Lee Zeldin - let's get him a full time job at Fox Excuse!
No More Lyin' Lee on our HealthCare!
We love ya Perry!
By allpeoplecount (58), eastport on Nov 4, 18 4:42 PM
Rep. Zeldin Leads Bipartisan Delegation of New York House Members Urging Full Funding of Essential Health Programs
December 21, 2017
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 4, 18 6:02 PM
Gun owners from states with lax gun laws would be welcome on the East End of Long Island once the NRA sponsored law supported by Congressman Zeldin passes. States with high rates of violent gun crime like Louisiana, Mississipp and Illinois would have their lax or non existent concealed weapons laws imposed on New York state. Fanatical misogynists like Scott Beierle would be set loose on our neighbors if Congressman Zeldin has his way.
Time for a change.
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 4, 18 6:18 PM
it certainly is time for a change in our draconian NY concealed carry law!
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 4, 18 6:51 PM
So you're in favor of concealed-carry reciprocity?

No, thanks. Why would Montana know who should be allowed to CCW in New York better than New York?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 6:49 AM
That’s one rule we don’t need. Let them do what they want in their own state.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 6:56 AM
In my opinion there should be a NATIONAL right to carry!
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 5, 18 9:21 AM
That’s your opinion. more nuts carrying guns, is not what we need. Now, counter with, good guy with a gun stops bad guy with a gun narrative. Thoughts and prayers.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 9:41 AM
Do you notice you never get any likes on your comments.
By themarlinspike (38), southampton on Nov 5, 18 9:48 AM
BF, if it's a standard our Congress collectively agrees upon, so be it, but reciprocity of other states' lax standards is a non-starter for me.
Nov 5, 18 10:22 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Shush, PW. You got kicked off this site.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:22 AM
If an individual meets the legal requirement to purchase a hand gun under Federal Law then they should be able to carry concealed under Federal Law.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 11:00 AM
That's one view. Another is that there should be a higher threshold for ownership in the home and possession in public.
Nov 5, 18 11:05 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Should say "there should be a higher threshold for possession in public than ownership in the home"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 11:05 AM
Gun safety and ownership responsibility and accountability is not a sliding scale. Treating it as such some would say is part of the problem.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 11:11 AM
That's one view. Another is that, since places with more guns have more gun violence, places with more people should have less guns.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 11:22 AM
But yet crime statistics overall and gun homicide rates specifically have trended downward while gun ownership has increased.

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 12:25 PM
Which doesn't really account for the fact that seven of the ten deadliest mass shootings have occurred within the last six years.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 3:07 PM
What country were you born in exactly ?????
Are you proud of that country ?????
By themarlinspike (38), southampton on Nov 5, 18 3:31 PM
I'm not sure what that has to do with the question at hand, PW.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 3:45 PM
And 100% of the ten deadliest mass shootings took place in the last 50 years. I don't know that for the certain, that's rhetorical, but the bigger picture doesn't fit the narrative being spun, and it it does, it's not a gun problem, it's a people problem.

btw, marlin's question is VERY relevant. Why did your parents flee that country, and why are you trying to turn this country into THAT country as it appears many who flee s*it hole countries often do?

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 8:36 PM
You'd be wrong. Is that what you think rhetorical means? Wrong?

Who says I am? What do my parents have to do with anything?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 9:04 PM
No, rhetorical means what it means, it's why I used it. I wasn't looking for confirmation to the now confirmed fact that the ten deadliest shootings happened within the last 50 years. That said...

It's interesting that you evade such a simple question as to your origins, so, we will be left to draw our own conclusions leading to the baffling conclusion: You want to turn the United States into the country your parents fled.

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 9:17 PM
Now-confirmed? You realize I said your assumption was wrong, right? Perhaps you should look up the Wiki page and check your facts.

I think you've heard me say I don't share such personal details with strangers on the internet, but I'll repeat it for your sake.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 9:23 PM
LOL, oh well, if you said it, that changes everything. Except for the fact that the ten deadliest mass shootings did happen within the last 50 years.

The country you born in isn't a personal detail and doesn't qualify as personally identifiable information. So, which country were you born in?
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:13 PM
What year did the UT tower shooting took place? What year do you think it is?

If you think that attack happened within the last 50 years, you might be living in the past.

The funny thing is, you can't really know how personally identifiable it is unless you know the country.

After all, there many be thousands of people born in country X on the East End, but only a dozen from country Y.

Tell you what: if you do a good job guessing it is might tell you when you ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:21 PM
LOL, 1966.... ok, I stand corrected.... the ten deadliest mass shootings did happen within the last 52 years. With a bolt action rifle no less.

But thank you! You stumbled into my point exactly. The bigger picture doesn't fit the spin.

LOL... 52 years.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:45 PM
That as arms have become more widely available and capable of greater damage, there have been more mass shootings?

No spin necessary, that the deadliest five mass shootings have occurred in just over the last decade is fact.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:48 PM
Every case should to be examined on it's own facts. Always it is the result of a person, not the gun. An Ar-15 is not necessarily more capable of greater damage than a shotgun, or as a handgun just as a bolt action rifle was in 1966.

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 11:07 PM
Are you saying there's no difference between the projectiles delivered by an AR-15 and a handgun?

Are you saying it's completely normal to have this incidence and death toll of mass shootings?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 6, 18 5:28 AM
Po boy, not buying that argument. You can run a ton of bullets through an ar-15 in a short period of time.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 5:41 AM
I'm saying they don't run through the gun on their own.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 6, 18 7:09 PM
So, your saying nothing then?
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 7:25 PM
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why cant we connect to the "more" on any post for the past week or so?? Press please fix this problem thanks.
By xtiego (668), bridgehampton on Nov 4, 18 6:31 PM
Yet again SNL shows it's true colors and shows how far left they are. Pete Davidson (the one time ugly duckling boyfriend of Ariana Grande) decided to make fun of Dan Crenshaw, a Texas Republican running for Congress who lost an eye while serving in the U.S. military. The former Navy Seal was the butt of the ultra liberal (and failing) NBC show. So now it's cool to make fun of wounded veterans? Disgusting! What happened to the SNL of old (and not so old for that matter). Instead of Belushi, Ferrell, ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (211), Riverhead on Nov 4, 18 7:44 PM
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How is the fear mongering going? Caravan, caravan, caravan. Brown people invading, brown people invading. Meanwhile, with an epidemic of mass shootings across the country, what steps has the orange orangutan taken to mitigate more mass shootings, nothing. How much carnage do you need to see before anything is done? He's done nothing to protect innocent American citizens, nothing, nada, zilch. He also keeps lying that he has gotten money for a wall, 1.6 billion here, 1.6 billion here. Complete lies, ...more
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 6:00 AM
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Mets fan, some of them children seeking asylum could bite, very dangerous situation. Better call in the troops.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 6:04 AM
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Mets fan, some of them children seeking asylum could bite, very dangerous situation. Better call in the troops.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 6:04 AM
It's the HealthCare, Stupid Lee!
You voted against our pre-existing condirion coverage.
We vote against you tomorrow.
By allpeoplecount (58), eastport on Nov 5, 18 6:39 AM
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Must be nice for a "person" to be able to pay a fine, and admit no wrongdoing...

Trump Administration Spares Corporate Wrongdoers Billions in Penalties

By Ben Protess, Robert Gebeloff and Danielle Ivory
Nov. 3, 2018


“We should be trying to deter management from committing fraud, not rewarding corporations when their lawyers cleverly mask bad deeds.”

~ Robert J. Jackson Jr.

By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 5, 18 6:58 AM
Congressman Zeldin voted for a bill that would permit criminals and psychopaths from Mississippi and gang members from Illinois to carry concealed weapons and AR 15s on the East End of Long Island. Then the wounds suffered from these out-of-state gun nuts would not be covered by health insurance because they are "pre-existing coniditions". Women raped at gun point by these thugs and impregnated would be forced to bear their children because "abortion is murder".
This is what Congressman Zeldin ...more
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 5, 18 7:24 AM
“Mr. Gershon, how do you plan to pay for Medicare-For-All?”

“I can’t talk right now. I have chocolate all over my hands.”
By SlimeAlive (1015), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 7:35 AM
omg, lol, you saw that commercial to!?
By adlkjd923ilifmac.aladfksdurwp (581), southampton on Nov 5, 18 7:50 AM
Medicare for All Payment Plan for the East End of Long Island:
FACT: SUNY Southampton Hospital system is profitable. That means it takes in more money than it pays out. Today, this year, last year, and the year before. Even while paying 20% to health insurance companies and maintaining multi-million dollar salaries for its executives.
FACT: 80% of Medicare and Medicaid goes to population that is 75+. This means that the elderly need healthcare more than the young, on average.
Medicare ...more
By dfree (566), hampton bays on Nov 5, 18 9:55 AM
(POLITICO) — On the eve of the midterms, President Donald Trump’s approval is falling, young voters are energized, and Republicans look poised to lose their House majority.

It’s enough to make Democrats nervous, miserable wrecks.

Haunted by memories of 2016, liberals around the country are riven with anxiety in the campaign’s homestretch. They’re suspicious of favorable polls and making election night contingency plans in case their worst fears come ...more
By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 5, 18 12:31 PM
New York Times: ‘Best Time’ for American Employees in Maybe 50 Years
February's NFP report confirms strength of Trump economy.AP Photo/Charlie Riedel
3 Nov 2018
The New York Times said on November 2 that President Donald Trump’s high-pressure economy “is the best time for the American labor market in at least 18 years and maybe closer to 50.” Wage growth, long considered the “missing ingredient” to the economic expansion, has finally returned. ...more
By joe hampton (3213), The Hamptons on Nov 5, 18 12:27 PM
You posted this breitbart article before
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 12:33 PM
Wait till you pay your first home heating oil bill this fall!! Oops, those are dollars that are a real concern to everyday working people.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 12:57 PM
Please everyone go out and vote tomorrow, for either Lee Zeldin or Perry Gershon. Please research the candidates and ballot proposals and make an informed decision based on your values!

IMHO -- The Zeldin -v- Gershon race is a referendum on chocolate -- if you like chocolate, even a little bit, vote for Perry Gershon, he's the only candidate that has a proven and documented track record of enjoying chocolate. Chocolate is delicious!!!
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 2:06 PM
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There are no ballot proposals for Suffolk county or NY sate.
By auntof9 (129), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 3:33 PM
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I will be working the polls making sure there is no voter fraud
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 5, 18 4:48 PM
Lol, that's not your job, but if you were actually a poll worker you'd know that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 6:01 PM
I know perfectly well what my "job" is, i also know what my duty is and I have figured out how to get both done.

Whats the matter you don't seem to like what i am saying ? Why ?
By 27dan (2496), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 5, 18 6:17 PM
I just hope none of our neighbors become uncomfortable, report you for impropriety, and you lose out on your per diem.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 6:54 PM
aintof9 is correct, there are no ballot proposals in NYS or Suffolk county, thank you for taking the time to clarify and provide accurate information.
By Aeshtron (190), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 9:28 AM
Thank you for your service
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 4:51 PM
A question: only CITIZENS are allowed to vote, in order to become a citizen there is a test that is given in ENGLISH, why are there signs IN SPANISH denoting where the polling places are? Whiskey Tango Foxtrot is up with that?
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 5, 18 7:17 PM
Big duck, you sound like Confucius. Brilliant!!!
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 7:51 PM
Thank you, care to address the question?
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 5, 18 7:55 PM
We have a large Hispanic group voting here. Does it bother you? They might be voting zeldin. Instead of making it harder to vote, make it easier. Don’t be afraid of people voting, be afraid of people stopping people from voting.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 5, 18 8:05 PM
Voter impersonation (also sometimes called in-person voter fraud is a form of electoral fraud in which a person who is not eligible to vote in an election does so by voting under the name of another eligible voter or a person who is eligible, to vote a second or more times by otherwise pretending to be another eligible voter.[1] In the United States, voter ID laws have been enacted since 2010 with the aim of preventing voter impersonation. You can’t do it. It is against the law and If we have ...more
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 9:35 PM
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If Republicans ain't cheatin', they ain't winnin'.

Ratf****d, the story of the GOP gerrymander which keeps them in the running.
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 6, 18 6:59 PM
The entire Democrat/Liberal party are based on lies, hypocrisy and deceit. Elizabeth Warren-Fake
At least 2 Kavanaugh accusers-Fake
Hillary Clinton-Fake
Dr. Ford-Fake
Jake Tapper- Fake
Don Lemon-Fake
Wolf Blitzer-Fake
Caravan-Fake
Antifa-Fake
Perry Gershon-Fake
SNL-Fake
Taylor Swift-Fake
Michael Avenatti-Fake
All of Hollywood-Fake
All of mainstream media-Fake
Russia Hoax-Fake
Stormy Daniels-Fake
Bill Maher-Fake
Jimmy Fallon-Fake
Steven ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (211), Riverhead on Nov 5, 18 7:44 PM
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Julia Ioffe Apologizes After Saying Trump Radicalized More People than ISIS!

CNN seems to consider the average American to be an imbecile who they need to feed propaganda to a spoonful at a time. Actually reporting the news has become passé, the old establishment "news" sources are more in the entertainment and indoctrination business than anything else. Until a Trump started addressing it, the MSM virtually ignored issue like the influx of Third World crime and disease and the illegal ...more
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 9:43 PM
ELECTION 2018
DEJA VU 2016? POLL SHOWS 'HIDDEN TRUMP VOTE'
Republicans much less likely to signal their intent
Published: 2 hours ago

Many analysts believe that pollsters misfired in 2016 because of “hidden” support for President Trump, and if a new Rasmussen survey is any indication, the prognosticators may be wrong again and a “silent red wave” is cresting just as Election Day arrives.


By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 5, 18 9:45 PM
I certainly wouldn't admit to anyone that I was a Trump supporter.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 9:56 PM
Yeah, people don't want to given any indication of "the hidden Trump vote" for fear of reprisal by the Democrat Left-wing mob.

By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:07 PM
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By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:10 PM
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I can't confirm or deny what your neighbors think about you, but I have my suspicions, but it's telling what you think they would think IF you were a Trump supporter.

Ah yes, a sign of what voting democrat will get us.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:16 PM
At least you acknowledge that it's a widespread belief, whether you think it's well-founded or not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:23 PM
You're entitled to agree with your own opinion.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:30 PM
Whether you (or I) agree with the perception, it exists. I wonder why that is?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:52 PM
I wonder why you wonder.
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 11:08 PM
Mostly because I want to get your take, but personally because obviously not every member of any group is X, so is it that a critical mass of them are in this case, or is it just the loudest, proudest bunch who have become the face of Trump-supporters for better or worse?

Put another way: are tiki-torch marches representative of Trump, or merely Trump-adjacent?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 6, 18 5:32 AM
And the password is "disingenuous."

Ding!
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 6, 18 7:04 PM
What's disingenuous? If you disagree with my musings speak up or if you'd rather engage in name-calling go ahead.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 7, 18 6:08 AM
Washington Post/ABC New Poll:- Oct 29-Nov 1.

65% of Americans have a positive view of the economy up from 51% from January 15, 2018, just after the inauguration of Donald Trump!
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 5, 18 10:30 PM
Quick, who am I: "Polls=Fake News!" lol
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 5, 18 10:33 PM
W already know who you are, Bitter Fred
By Undocumented Democrat (1799), southampton on Nov 5, 18 11:14 PM
@ Po Boy

Once again, as is your unalterable habit, you choose casuistry over honesty.

I cite authoritative reference showing that the incidence of homicides in mass-murder shootings has exploded, just as Metsfan claimed (and as you ignorantly denied) and, rather than attempt to refute that incontestable fact, you post inane comments about population growth, gun ownership, homicide statistics and (my favorite) that blacks are killing blacks.

Nowhere, of course, do you attempt ...more
By highhatsize (3768), East Quogue on Nov 6, 18 4:44 AM
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LOL....Did you happen to catch the link on your "authoritative source" titled: "The number of ‘mass shootings’ in the U.S. depends on how you count?"

1,123 killed in mass shootings since 1966. Epidemic? Or would an epidemic be the fact that in Chicago each day, someone is shot every 2 hours 50 minutes and killed every 14 hours and the same total occurring roughly every two years vs. 52 years?

You can ignore the factual counterpoint all you wish, it doesn't change the ...more
By Po Boy (3012), Water Mill on Nov 6, 18 6:58 PM
Excellent piece on " 60 Minutes," about the difference in damage a 9mm and a AR-15 bullet does. In Las Vegas with fifty eight dead and over four hundred wounded, I can only imagine the pain and carnage those people endured with the way an AR-15 bullet rips and destroys body parts.. Why anyone needs the civilian companion of an M-16 is beyond me. Don't expect Drumpf and Lee to ever take any steps to mitigate mass murder shootings. They made it clear that their platform is bought and paid for the ...more
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 6:01 AM
Thoughts and prayers, that’s the answer
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 6:06 AM
Excellent piece on "60 Minutes", about the difference in damage a tablespoon and a sugar spoon does. In Rosie O'Donnell's house, she's conflicted with this dilemma all the time. Eating with a tablespoon can have a positive effect on your metabolism while a sugar spoon has the opposite effect. She she's to get much fatter when she eats with a sugar spoon. The sugar spoon can carry more food than the tablespoon, so Mrs. O'donnell seems to get much fatter when she uses them. Don't expect President ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (211), Riverhead on Nov 6, 18 5:21 PM
Yes diseased, you should take your funny humor on the road. Why don't you take it to Las Vegas, Blacksburg, Newtown, Sutherland, Parkland, or San Bernardino and see what they they think of it.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 7, 18 9:05 AM
Diseased, that’s your idea of humor? Your a funny guy. That act should be taken on the road.you got star quality!!!!
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 5:30 PM
Ok. So you'd rather the practical approach?

Guns kill people like spoons made Rosie O'Donnell fat.

There.
By DiseaseDiocese (211), Riverhead on Nov 6, 18 6:12 PM
By that logic, heroin doesn't kill people; people who inject heroin kill themselves. Lo and behold, thanks to people who live in the real world, it's still a controlled substance.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 7, 18 9:14 AM
Your funny
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 6, 18 6:26 PM
The conversation about gun reform ended when America (diseased) found it bearable to have murdered five year-olds.
By Mets fan (1272), Southampton on Nov 7, 18 10:08 AM
So Foreign, you're comparing heroin with a legal fire arm? Bit of a stretch don'tcha think?
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 7, 18 4:35 PM
I'm applying the logic about the futility of legislating inanimate objects to inanimate objects that we already legislate, but if you want to compare and contrast the opiate epidemic to the mass shooting epidemic we can.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 7, 18 4:41 PM
Any tool may be a weapon, but no weapon can be a tool.
By Mr. Z (10651), North Sea on Nov 7, 18 9:23 PM
Fore1gn, your analogy was so incorrect...I'm dumfounded. I'm not sure If you didn't understand the Rosie line, or if you are bending it like CNN. It wouldn't be the "people who inject heroin" in your feeble attempt at a comeback. It would be the needle itself. Spoons, guns, and needles alone are not and never will be the issue. That's the point. Ban spoons, they'll use a fork. Ban guns they'll use knives or IED's or a vehicle to kill. Ban needles, they'll get high some other way. Capisce?

In ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (211), Riverhead on Nov 7, 18 8:44 PM
@Disease: For chrissakes, when are you going to learn the correct use of your native language, or perhaps treat yourself to a dictionary? "Abscond"? Really? Not to mention your misplaced outrage toward a journalist doing his job to hold the traitorous thug in high office to account.
By June Bug (2194), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 7, 18 9:13 PM
Putting aside the fact that a person in possession of syringes, spoons and brillo can be charged with carrying drug paraphernalia, If you're only worried about the material within the syringe does that mean you'd be open to bullet-control legislation?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 8, 18 6:12 AM
Epic fail Foreign, your anti firearm sentiment is showing.
By bigfresh (3852), north sea on Nov 8, 18 6:41 AM
What a thoughtful and substantive retort. You've truly given me something to think about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 8, 18 6:51 AM
Another mass murder committed with a spoon? Knife? Tow that line, stand strong. Thoughts and prayers help who? No one at all.
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 8, 18 7:00 AM
Another mass killing in California. Thoughts and prayers
By Fred s (1502), Southampton on Nov 8, 18 6:51 AM
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg fractured three ribs on her left side during a fall Wednesday evening in her office, the Supreme Court said Thursday.

The 85-year-old was admitted to a hospital for observation and treatment, according to a Supreme Court news release.

Just thought I would add that only the senate confirms Supreme Court Justices. The House won’t help you. Good luck with that...
By DiseaseDiocese (211), Riverhead on Nov 8, 18 9:28 AM
Luckily broken bones are not the death sentence they would be if we were horses in the wild.

A speedy recovery to Justice Ginsburg!
Nov 8, 18 9:43 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
And also a reminder to Republicans that hoping for a woman's death is disgusting.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 8, 18 9:43 AM
Here is to wishing Ruth Bader Ginsburg a full recovery and and a happy retirement
By They call me (2498), southampton on Nov 8, 18 1:25 PM
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Ready for SCOTUS NUMBER THREE?

The President is .... They will try to stuff and prop RBG up. It will look like a scene from Weekend at Bernies before the Dem's willingly give up that seat on the bench. But they will have no choice
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 8, 18 1:38 PM
Just a reminder that fantasizing about a person's death makes you a bad person.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 8, 18 2:02 PM
No one is wishing for her death that i can see. So why are you trying to imply that we are ?
By Ditch Bum (606), Water Mill on Nov 8, 18 2:08 PM
Your comment isn't a fantasy about a dead Ginsburg?

Then why would she need to be stuffed or propped up?

I guess you saw a different Weekend at Bernie's than I did.
Nov 8, 18 2:11 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Aaaand he's gone.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (4577), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 8, 18 2:11 PM