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Oct 24, 2017 5:37 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin Has Nearly $1.17 Million In Campaign War Chest

Oct 24, 2017 5:52 PM

Republican U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin added $612,373.65 to his war chest this quarter, bringing the incumbent’s cash on hand to $1,169,040.90 as he readies to enter his 2018 reelection campaign for New York’s 1st Congressional District seat.

A press release issued this week by Mr. Zeldin’s office proclaimed the figure as the “highest total ever raised” by the congressman’s campaign, Zeldin for Congress, in a non-election year quarter. The quarter began on July 1 and concluded on September 30.

According to Federal Election Commission records, Mr. Zeldin’s biggest donor is the Committee to Protect Prosperity and Free Enterprise, with a $26,925.18 contribution. Based in Maryland, the committee has a history of donating to Republicans who either hold a seat or are running for a seat in the House of Representatives.

The next-highest donation, $5,000, was the amount that came from an assortment of political action committees, or PACs, including the Majority Committee PAC; the Jobs, Economy and Budget Fund; the National Automobile Dealers Association PAC; and the American Society of Anesthesiologists PAC.

Southampton Town Republican Committee Chairman David Betts said he sees Mr. Zeldin’s fundraising acumen as a direct reflection of the solid job he has done as a congressman.

“I am not surprised at all with Congressman Zeldin’s fundraising ability,” he said on Saturday. “He is a dedicated and effective representative, with a great deal of support and respect from his constituents, and I would expect that his ability to raise funding would reflect that support.”

Some of Mr. Zeldin’s Democratic challengers, not surprisingly, saw things differently.

Brendon Henry of Center Moriches juxtaposed Mr. Zeldin’s donations with his own locally funded campaign that, to date, has raised roughly $10,500.

“I expected Zeldin’s numbers, especially with all of the lobbyists, corporate money and special interests that have invested in him,” Mr. Henry said on Friday. “My grassroots campaign is small donations from working people who spare whatever they can in hopes that I will make our voices heard loud and clear in Washington. I have faith that the people’s disdain for the current lack of real representation will overpower big money.”

Another potential Democratic candidate, Elaine DiMasi of Ronkonkoma, a former physicist, also took a shot at Mr. Zeldin’s donors. “No amount of Beltway fundraising changes the fact that the incumbent congressman is a shameless Trump apologist who embraces the half-baked nationalism of the alt-right,” she said on Friday.

According to the most recent FEC information, Ms. DiMasi’s campaign has $51,731.35 cash on hand as of the end of the most recent quarter.

East Hampton Democratic candidate Perry Gershon, speaking through campaign manager Brad Pyle, shifted the attention back to his own recent fundraising success. According to federal records, Mr. Gershon has $411,414.03 on hand as of the end of this quarter.

“Perry Gershon’s campaign will have the resources necessary to remind Lee Zeldin’s constituents that Zeldin has voted to strip away healthcare, deny hurricane relief and reject climate change,” Mr. Pyle said on Friday.

None of the remaining Democratic candidates currently matches Mr. Zeldin’s funds to spend, though it is historically difficult to outraise an incumbent who already has fundraising machinery in place.

Former Suffolk County Legislator Vivian Viloria-Fisher from East Setauket has $93,080.33 on hand after last quarter, according to federal records. David Pechefsky, a former New York City Council staffer from Brooklyn who was born in Patchogue and also wants to challenge Mr. Zeldin, has $166,672.60 cash on hand as of that same date.

Kate Browning, a Suffolk County legislator from Shirley who cannot seek reelection to that post due to term limits, entered the congressional race less than two weeks ago and does not currently have any financial records with the federal commission.

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Nice bit of change this young man from up island has starched away.list of doners please
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By watchdog1 (495), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 8:12 AM
It's all available online, the website is called OpenSecrets.

According to them, Zeldin's donations are 27.25% from small donations ($200.

There's a tab that lists the donors; looking at the top 100 contributors not a single individual person appears, it's all PACs and corporations.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 8:58 AM
Drain the swamp! Start with Zeldin!

Mr. Henry is an honest, hard-working local family man. We need more people like him in office and less slimy politicians like Zeldin.
By johnj (929), Westhampton on Oct 25, 17 9:20 AM
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Anguished Liberals Plan to 'Scream Helplessly at the Sky' on Anniversary of Trump Election

I bet johnj, mets and some of the rest of you have saved the date lol

Progressives have taken their Trump derangement syndrome to a whole new level...

Thousands of anguished libs in Boston and Philadelphia will be taking part in scream fests on Nov. 8 to commemorate the anniversary of Donald Trump's election. Liberals in other cities around the country are likely to step up to ...more
Oct 25, 17 9:57 AM appended by They call me
Z E L D I N !
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 25, 17 9:57 AM
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I hope that's televised!! I'm in the mood for a good comedy!!
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 1:54 PM
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Citizens United = Corruption
By Pacman (219), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 11:08 AM
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The problem with that view on Citizens United is that it presumes wrongdoing without evidence.

Put differently, why shouldn't individuals be allowed to pool their resources into an organized corporate body to benefit a political cause or candidate of their choosing?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 11:11 AM
I'm sure we'd be able to find the evidence if the campaign finance laws actually required transparency as to where the money is coming from.
By Pacman (219), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 12:46 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly that there is much transparency left to be desired in campaign financing.

In regard to the "corporations have a right to political speech" aspect of Citizens United, I think it's the lesser of two evils.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 12:58 PM
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Citizens United is antithetical to democracy. How on earth can the average American compete with the 1% for whom CU amounts to a legal route to buy any official of their choosing to do their bidding. Just today we learn the following:

Source: www.maplight.org

Dark Money Group Received Massive Donation In Fight Against Obama’s Supreme Court Nominee
Margaret Sessa-Hawkins and Andrew Perez October 24, 2017
A dark money organization that spent $7 million to block ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 5:23 PM
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"Caterwaul." That's a great word, thank you for teaching it to me.

I think the issue comes into focus when you phrase it: why is it not OK for citizens to pool money and support candidates and causes of their choice?

If it was illegal, only independently wealthy people would be able to buy ads to support candidates, giving them a disproportionate amount of political power.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 5:54 PM
@Fore: Help me understand.

Are you asserting that the wealthy don't have a disproportionate amount of political power under Citizens United?

And if illegal, independently wealthy people would be buying ads?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 6:13 PM
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Well, let's start from the premise that an individual citizen, regardless of wealth, has the freedom of speech to spend their money supporting political candidates (instead of buying TV ads, imagine someone giving away MAGA hats).

From there, we take the leap to groups of like-minded people doing the same, in the form of, and with protections provided by, a corporation.

It's true that the wealthy still have a disproportionate amount of speech, but the Citizens United ruling gives ...more
Oct 25, 17 6:48 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
The question of whether rich individuals would choose to spend their money on political speech in answered by the irrational fear of the Koch brothers on one side and George Soros on the other.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 6:48 PM
Irrational fear? How about selfish greed and assurance of unlimited advantage(s)?
You seem either to be unaware of or unconcerned about the issue of dark and/or unidentified money allowed as contributions which is probably the worst aspect of CU.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 7:22 PM
The transparency issue is separate from the speech issue, and I agree the system is not perfect, it's just preferable to the alternative.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 7:50 PM
@ Fore: Why such a benign view of maybe the worst decision every made by the SCOTUS? CU allowed big money to hack our democracy long before Putin did.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 2:10 PM
Because the alternative, to deny corporate bodies the right to political speech, would result in a worse outcome.

Dark money is a problem that's not ameliorated by denying individuals a way to pool money in the absence of effective public election financing laws as an alternative means of balancing out the inequitable power of wealthy individuals.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 2:21 PM
According personhood to corporations by the SC itself was outrageous, and to then equip them with unlimited moneys to affect legislation on their behalf is yet another.
3. Corporate Money Distorts Democracy

The Court turned its back on the reality recognized by political actors for a century: concentrated wealth has a distorting effect on democracy, therefore, winners in the economic marketplace should not be allowed to dominate the political marketplace. Before Citizens United, the ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 3:34 PM
On this the 1 year anniversary of the elections... it is certainly shaping up not to be a good week for the never Trump / Zelden crowd.
First came the new evidence uncovering the Uranium 1 deal ( don't listen to peoples opinions here, look it up for yourselves) It is the unimaginable deal that the news is trying desperately to ignore... BUT WAIT ! now it turns out the Clinton campaign and the DNC were the ones that paid for the Russia dossier to be written... You remember the dossier, ...more
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 25, 17 11:13 AM
YES YES BERNIE WILL TELL YOU AND EVEN JIMMY CARTER WILL TELL YOU ! BERNIE WAS SCREWED OVER !
By local 84 (334), riverhead on Oct 25, 17 11:20 AM
To clear up some of your word salad:

Someone affiliated with the campaign paid a private firm for opposition research. Whether campaign officials knew about the opposition research or it's Russian government sources remains unclear.

As to the Uranium One deal, I anticipaie endlesa hearings and an eventual finding of no wrongdoing, just like Benghazi.

On the off-chance they identify and prosecute wrongdoing, GOOD.
Oct 25, 17 11:24 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Oops, duplicate post.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 11:24 AM
To clear up some of your word salad:

Someone affiliated with the campaign paid a private firm for opposition research. Whether campaign officials knew about the opposition research or it's Russian government sources remains unclear.

As to the Uranium One deal, I anticipate endless hearings and an eventual finding of no wrongdoing, just like Benghazi.

On the off-chance they identify and prosecute wrongdoing, GOOD.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 11:24 AM
Oh please they knew! You must be jokin!


Just like Hillary didn't know the Donna Brazil was giving her the questions to the television debate before hand ? RIGHT! Haa. You must think we are stupid the Clintons know ever thing! Its just this time they got caught and caught good!
By local 84 (334), riverhead on Oct 25, 17 11:39 AM
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That sounds like a presumption of guilt, which is exactly the opposite of how this works.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 11:43 AM
presumption of guilt?

DC ROCKED: CLINTON PAID FOR KREMLIN DIRT ON TRUMP

RUSSIA SCRIPT FLIPPED...
Top Hillary lawyer lied for YEAR about dossier...
MESS: Pressure builds on Mueller to recuse himself...
FBI On Hot Seat...
Busted Media Downplay Revelations...

Clinton campaign, DNC payed for work on dossier about Russia and Trump
Originally published October 24, 2017 at 5:50 pm Updated October 24, 2017 at 6:22 pm
By Adam Entous, Devlin Barrett, Rosalind ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 25, 17 12:21 PM
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president trumps causing the meltdown of the swamp, and the corruption would have gone on undisturbed had anyone else won the presidency.the truth always comes out in the end. this looks like it could finally be the end of the road for many crooks and liars.
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 25, 17 12:30 PM
Sunlight is the best disinfectant. I welcome prosecutions in case of wrongdoing and lots crow-eating in case no wrongdoing is found.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 1:00 PM
News flash, Hon, trump IS the swamp. The corruption is unprecedented and out in the open. Now the RW is in deflection overdrive falsely injecting doubt and suspicion into the minds of the low-information types. Truth will out; just taking way too long.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 1:58 PM
that is your partisan opinion. i say mr. trump is doing a fine job of trying to keep his promises. you have tried to slander him from the day he made your predictions look foolish. i think it might be time to admit there is no russia trump connection and start worrying about the people who oppose president trumps russia connections.it seems obvious there is so much more to the story than the left wing media has been willing to look at.
Oct 25, 17 4:11 PM appended by Erin 27 E
the clintons are going down, they have become a liability to the elites the know they must come clean about hillary becuse the 2018 midterm election commercials for the republicans are being written by the dems!
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 25, 17 4:11 PM
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Verifiable facts are now "partisan"? What happened? Learned yourself a new word? Keeping promises? You mean the "sooo easy" ones, the ones "I alone can make happen"? Name one. And who in the world is convincing you there is no trump/Russia connection when "he alone" and his sons have already told us about some of them, and the FBI has verified others? And "people who oppose" those connections are to be "worried" about? What on God's green earth are you smoking? And when are you going ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 4:52 PM
So many accusations against the President, yet not a shred of evidence let alone any wrong doing.
Oct 25, 17 9:33 PM appended by Po Boy
"I welcome prosecutions in case of wrongdoing and lots crow-eating in case no wrongdoing is found." With the burden of proof extremely high with certain crimes the absence of prosecutions does not mean the crime didn't take place. At some level, you weigh the evidence and draw a reasonable conclusion. Allegations against Trump have turned up zero evidence. Allegations against Hillary produces one connecting of the dot after the other.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 25, 17 9:33 PM
Lol, so the absence of prosecution vindicates Trump but the same is proof that Hillary did "something"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 10:27 PM
Nope. The absence of dots to connect and zero evidence vindicates Trump.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 10:03 AM
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His son and campaign manager solicited opposition research from a Russian attorney with ties to the Kremlin. Hillary's attorney paid for opposition research that was sourced from Russian government officials.

I'm not saying either of those things is conclusive, I'm just saying they're mighty similar.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 11:03 AM
Oh geez. You're in search of equivalency and comparing a meeting which lasted 20-30 minutes (not by the President mind you) to which Donald Jr. listened, and did not solicit... to the paying of million of dollars funded by the DNC and Clinton campaign and actions laundered through a law form and funneled through a research firm firm and executed by a former British spy, then fed to the media lap dogs. And to top it off, lied about for a year by key Clinton spokes people.

Get real.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 12:06 PM
@Po Boy: ".....zero evidence vindicates trump"? What are you now, a special counsel?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 12:54 PM
So what you're saying is neither instance led to any useful information or was used by either campaign in any way? Another similarity.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 2:09 PM
First we have to drain all the imbeciles the orange ignoramus appointed and hired.
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Oct 25, 17 1:09 PM
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By MoronEliminator (158), Montauk on Oct 25, 17 1:28 PM
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And the planned parenthood shooter was a conservative, what's your point?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 1:46 PM
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A Philadelphia abortion doctor was sentenced Wednesday to a third life term for killing ... "I will not mince words, Kermit Gosnell is a monster. PP is full of evil. Thats my point
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 25, 17 2:08 PM
It sounds like you think the shooting at planned parenthood was justified, do you care to clarify?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 2:11 PM
A person I knew wanted his elderly father to live to see "Hillary elected President." He died before she was beaten. But I promise will live to see her locked behind bars. I will NOT die before that happens. Lock her up! and Holder, and Lynch, and Comey, and Rosenstein, and Muehler
The entire "Russian Collusion" nonsense is suddenly 180 degrees on the Democrats for a reason. The only problem is the media will have to eat obama too which they cannot stomach.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 25, 17 2:18 PM
My point is IMO your comparison lacks a moral foundation thats all. both incidents were just as bad.
Oct 25, 17 2:22 PM appended by 27dan
Please don't try and James Hodgkinson as some sort of folk hero, bet you think Bill Ayers was a regular Robin Hood.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 25, 17 2:22 PM
I don't understand your first sentence, but agree that both were just as bad and that neither shooter's victims deserved it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 2:25 PM
Planned Parenthood is not full of evil, and what does it have to do with the monster Gosnell?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 4:39 PM
There hasn't been an act of left wing terrorism in almost thirty years.

Right wing terrorism has killed more people than Muslims.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 1:57 PM
Blood money
By LI native (127), LI on Oct 25, 17 2:30 PM
Some of it came from Home Depot too, according to OpenSecrets.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 25, 17 2:32 PM
What "intelligent person" would tell you they're "intelligent"? There's your tell.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 25, 17 5:27 PM
haved added several likes to above posts and not coming up why??
By xtiego (671), bridgehampton on Oct 25, 17 5:41 PM
I have been doing my own research all day long and as of the 10 O'Clock hour all hell is now breaking lose!

Sean Hannity show tonight was no less than historic!

I believe in the following days not only will President Trump be completely vindicated but the world will have to admit that not only is the Russian collusion real but its has always been between the Clinton's and Russia and about the selling out American security for $

Furthermore the Obama administration, ...more
Oct 26, 17 12:16 AM appended by joe hampton
Now would be a good time... Fore1gnBornHBgrown,Metsfan,June,VOS, Mr. Z, johnj ,highhatsize, and PHILL@HOME... to take a look at all you have said !
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 26, 17 12:16 AM
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Well, Joe, first let me make sure you know that the "like" registered under my name was simply a matter of clicking on the wrong word above - there is absolutely nothing you say or make up that I like. Not your bad spelling, atrocious grammar, lack of logic or your reliance on people like Sean Hannity for your "evidence." In fact, your citing of Hannity and his peculiar brand of phony, fake news is laughable and would detract from any credibility you might, in an extreme longshot, have collected. ...more
By VOS (1149), WHB on Oct 26, 17 2:38 AM
I'm going to echo VOS here. Joe's comment is a whole lot of nothing.

I'm very well aware of what I post and don't need to "take a look."
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 5:41 AM
I hear you Joe. This is HUGE - way bigger than Watergate - and the mainstream media and water carriers on the Left want nothing more than to sweep it under the rug. I've had a long standing personal theory that the Left will ALWAYS accuse those on the Right of what they themselves are guilty of - whether it be racism, attacks on the middle class...whatever... and NOW Russian collusion and high crimes and felonies. It's Washington establishment corruption through and through.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 9:39 AM
Sunlight is the best disinfectant, I look forward to 3 years of hearings and the prosecution of any wrongdoing.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 9:45 AM
Sunlight only makes the cockroaches scatter and go further into the depths they came from. You live in fantasy land if you think (any) wrongdoing always leads to prosecutions in Washington, especially with burdens of proof extremely difficult to reach.

Open minds have no difficulty connecting the dots regardless.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 10:02 AM
Probable cause is the standard for a charge and beyond a reasonable doubt is the standard for a conviction.

If you know more than Trump's Justice Dept. pony up.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 10:47 AM
Well no s*** Inspector Clouseau. If it were that easy, Bill Clinton MIGHT just now be getting out of jail.

It's all the details that get you to that point and most importantly, proving it. The Clinton Crime Family has been at this for 40 years years, and like a good mob boss, NEVER implicate themselves.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 12:17 PM
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Sounds like a lot of conjecture, unless you know something the rest of us don't.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 2:10 PM
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As long it suits their narrative, they'll hoover up whatever they're told like cheap blow.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 6:40 PM
“Clinton did not know about Trump dossier until publication: report”. Lol
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 26, 17 5:38 AM
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Considering as yet unidentified Republicans originally commisioned the report, it's mildly feasible.

Christ the stupid is strong with the "right wing".
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 6:44 PM
Sean Hannity is state run t.v., no different than the news people in North Korea. Who are you going to cite next, Alex Jones? Omarosa?
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Oct 26, 17 5:50 AM
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“DNC, Wasserman Schultz say they were unaware of dossier payments”. Lol
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 26, 17 5:52 AM
Hey, it's Hillary's Birthday today!

Happy Birthday Hillary Clinton! I hope you get everything you deserve to get!!
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 9:41 AM
Justice should have a full fledged, no holds barred, investigation of the Obama administration focusing on the State Department, foreign deals, and how Hillary Clinton used the office of Secretary of State to enrich herself.

I'm afraid that when the curtain is fully opened what will be seen is much worse than what we are beginning to learn.

This story is not even mentioned over at the Huffington Post today. Nothing to see here, move along. Can you imagine such denial !
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 26, 17 10:13 AM
All the resurrected HRC/ Obama mania cited above are part and parcel of cover-up, and whataboutism dredged up and circulated by the RW propaganda machine. They bear out (National Security Analyst) Juliette Kayyem's observation that the pace of these stories represents a recognition by the WH team that Mueller is getting close to something substantive which she says will be out by Thanksgiving. She goes on to say that it is more than an obstruction charge, that there is "something big" underlying ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 12:50 PM
you should turn off the rachael madow for a bit and see what msnbc does not want you to hear about hon.

good lord
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 26, 17 1:03 PM
4 Americans die in Benghazi and Republicans lose their minds. 4 die in Niger, and oh look, Hillary!!! Could y'all be any more transparent, hon?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 1:24 PM
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Conservative = gullible

The religious right has sold out to theocrats with the morality of a despot
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 1:51 PM
Conservative = gullible

The religious right has sold out to theocrats with the morality of a despot
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 1:51 PM
Niger is NOT Benghazi. Trump is not about to toss an innocent AMERICAN in prison to hide an illegal gun running operation to Syrian rebels. And he doesn’t have Susan Rice to lie to your face about Niger being caused by angry Muslims who were offended by a YouTube video less that complimentary to allah.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 27, 17 5:43 AM
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Wait, let's backtrack a little: so Obama told Susan Rice to say the Benghazi attack was prompted by the video?

The Republican-led inquiry into this resulted in a 400 page report that does not include that tid bit, can you provide a source?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 6:10 AM
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Obama himself claimed the attack was the result of a video and Susan Rice perpetuated the lie into the next week. We know that to not be true (email traffic on September 12 by Undersecretary Patrick Kennedy). Are we to believe Obama didn't ask or know where the information came from when the lie was fabricate? That's some seriously crappy leadership and if Obama didn't know, it's a show of lack of respect for him by his subordinates. I have a hard time believing that.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:32 AM
So do you think the president conducts his own intelligence investigations, or does he delegate them?

It kind of sounds like you're admitting there's no evidence anyone knew those statements were inaccurate when they were made.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:39 AM
Of course delegate, however, Obama also gets briefed on them. LOL, the nature of the attack was clear on September 12 for sure. No "sounds like" about it. The video lie was even told to grieving relatives. Despicable and disgusting.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:44 AM
And a belief that the attack may have been "spontaneous" was part of intelligence documents until weeks later.

It turns out the intelligence community wasn't actually that sure on the day following the attacks, go figure.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:57 AM
A source, you really just asked for source ? Every one of us with a half of a brain watched Susan Rice go on four Sunday morning shows that weekend and tell lies after lies. Sometimes I don't know if your act is real ?
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Oct 27, 17 2:10 PM
And for weeks after that Sunday, her claim that the attack was part of a spontaneous protest continued to be supported by at least some the intelligence community. Who lied?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 2:16 PM
Back to Zeldin. Where does he stand on the tax deduction for state & local taxes (income and property)?
By zaz (194), East Hampton on Oct 26, 17 10:24 AM
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This week he said: “There would need to be more progress made in figuring out the solution on this issue in order for me to vote for the resolution on Thursday...As of right now, I don’t have enough answers to vote ‘yes’ on the budget.”

Which is weaker than his statement in September: “I am not supportive of eliminating state and local tax deductions,”
Oct 26, 17 10:58 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Budget just passed but Zeldin voted "No"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 10:58 AM
Well, he DIDN'T vote yes. He voted no as you point out. Zeldin gave a great interview on Fox last night. He spoke about unfair advantages among states in the tax system, all boiling down to how effectively and efficiently states elected officials manage state budgets and spending. NYS has been run into the ground by Democrats and spending with the state having some of the highest property tax in the country. Here's a thought. What is NYS didn't have state tax?
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:20 AM
Then we'd probably be more like Florida.

Frankly, the only thing I envy from Florida is the sun.

It should also be mentioned that New York is a net contributor of federal tax dollars, as opposed to more conservative states which tend to consume more federal monies then they provide.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:25 AM
It's no coincidence New Yorkers are fleeing to other states. The sun is only a part of it, and often it's not even Florida.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:39 AM
The population loss trend is a rural (see: Republican) problem and New York is not the only state that's experienced it. In any event, 2016 was the first year we lost more people to other states than we gained.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:46 AM
If you say so. It's your argument.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:51 AM
First year since 2006, clicked submit a little fast there.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 9:01 AM
OMG ! CONFIRMED by the New York Times: Despite claims to the contrary, Uranium One has, in fact, exported “yellowcake” out of America and is “routinely packed into drums and trucked off to a processing plant in Canada.” The New York Times confirmed that: “Asked about that, the commission confirmed that Uranium One has, in fact, shipped yellowcake to Canada even though it does not have an export license.” While eight other agencies had to sign off on approving ...more
Oct 26, 17 2:34 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
Everything that those of us on the right have suspected about the Russian dossier, the Russian uranium deal, and the real Russian collusion into our elections has been proven to be true, everything that Hillary and the demonrats accused Trump of doing, they were actually doing.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 26, 17 2:34 PM
So what happened with the other 8 agencies, did their check get lost in the mail?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 3:07 PM
Get a grip, fella'. This is cover-up material being peddled to all the gullibles as the bright, shiny object to distract you from the vise that's tightening around your boy and his minions. And has earned Four Pinocchios from fact checkers.
Yes, the yellowcake goes to Canada. It goes there to be processed, then gets returned to the US. Now try to absorb the rest of the actual facts with the appropriate timelines attached:

Fact Checker
The facts behind Trump’s ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 3:10 PM
not sure if there was any other checks ? do you know of any ? I have only heard about secretary of state clinton and her husband making money from this?

why do you think everyone who knew about this allowed it to happen ? hmmm ?
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 26, 17 3:11 PM
So what was the $145 million in exchange for exactly
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 3:17 PM

A perfect example of how lies are injected into and believed by the ill-informed. What you have "heard" is false. Read the Washington Post article posted here at 3:10PM to learn the actual facts.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 3:31 PM
"The simple minded and the uninformed can be easily led astray."

~ John Mellencamp
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 5:46 PM
Russians will use the Hillary uranium to wipe out America, you mean like with a cloth?


Happy birthday Hillary!
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 1:00 AM
Panic is creeping in for the left, it's all freaking over leftists.
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 26, 17 4:27 PM
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You do realize the "Pee Papers" investigation was initially commissioned by Republicans.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 4:51 PM
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You can just feel it in the air, especially in the Hampton's where the politicians and Hollywood hide. They are not in a good mood the last few weeks ARE THEY. LOL

Everyone I talk to says they are not buying anything, they are not going out as much,they are being b* about everything and It is clear they are in the midst of a full out Trump induced derangement syndrome meltdown / temper tantrum, LOL

Isn't it just wonderful !
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 26, 17 4:53 PM
Schadenfreude really is a psychological disorder.

Not surprising from a "right winger". Just look at the level of maturity on display here.

Sad...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 5:49 PM
Hey someone had to point it out, we all feel it in the air . You reap what you sow.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 26, 17 6:46 PM
Uh, Dan and Undie, would you two mystics care to elaborate on what it is you're feeling "in the air"?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 6:59 PM
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I think bigfresh and UD summed it up well, Panic and tamper tantrums!

They are still in a state of shock that Trump won and they are pissed off at everyone and everybody not in there corrupt circle of lobbyists politicians and Hollyweird friends

It started the day after the election for me . I remember walking on the street in Sag Harbor it was a surreal almost chilling feeling. I found it remarkable at the time. I do not think the "Elite" ever quite got over it. Now with the ...more
Oct 26, 17 8:28 PM appended by 27dan
Hamptons Buyers Battle Over Cheaper Homes By Oshrat Carmiel Bloomberg October 26, 2017, 12:01 AM EDT Purchasers agreed to pay more than the asking price in 10 percent of deals for properties under $3.3 million -- this quarter’s definition of “non-luxury” homes, making up the bottom 90 percent of the market, according to a report Thursday by appraiser Miller Samuel Inc. and brokerage Douglas Elliman Real Estate. It was the biggest share of transactions with bidding wars since the firms began tracking the data in the second quarter of 2016. In their zeal for lower-end deals, buyers snapped up condos as well. available for just 97 days on average before going under contract, the fastest clip in six years of record-keeping. On the high-end, buyers showed less interest in acquiring luxury homes than sellers did in listing them. Inventory in that top 10 percent of the market jumped 22 percent, the biggest pile-up in two years. For Hamptons brokers last quarter, wrote Town & Country Chief Executive Officer Judi Desiderio, it “was akin to watching a collection of super balls bouncing in all different directions simultaneously.” lol
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 26, 17 8:28 PM
I'm still waiting for someone to tell me what Russia got in exchange for the $145 million to the Clinton Foundation if the DoS was only one of nine agencies that approved the Uranium deal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 26, 17 8:35 PM
Have never heard of a tamper tantrum. What is that?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 8:55 PM
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Mr Z - "Just look at the level of maturity on display here." Pi**--- my pants! You of all people here are going to make a comment like that ? Waaaaa



By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Oct 26, 17 9:01 PM
You mean like the "corrupt circle of lobbyists" that just convinced Mike Pence to cast the deciding vote to deny consumers the right to sue their banks, or the ones that acted to remove regulations that protect our environment, or the ones that......
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 26, 17 9:05 PM
see how it works Elites not spending and the middle class is. Do the math
on what party in power benifits whom!

Americans in Best Holiday Shopping Mood in Years

by Lydia Saad
STORY HIGHLIGHTS

Americans plan to spend $906 on gifts, the most since 2007
Middle- and lower-income households fueling the rise
Record-low percentage plan to spend less than last year
WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Gallup's initial measure of consumers' 2017 Christmas shopping plans suggests ...more
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 27, 17 12:54 AM
I was going to be in a great holiday shopping mood until the end of the state & local tax deduction shattered any prospect of a tax cut.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 6:11 AM
Blame yourself for voting Democrat.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:15 AM
Why? They all voted against the proposal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:26 AM
A vote for a democrat is a vote for higher taxes. Who did you vote for governor?
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:36 AM
Ah yes,Miss Autocorrect......you know EXACTLY what that is ....you have one every time someone mentions the name Trump.
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 27, 17 9:59 AM
Moody's Analytics:

GOP tax plan doomed to fail
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 26, 17 6:03 PM
WASHINGTON, D.C.—Senate Republicans confirmed one federal judge on Thursday and set the stage to confirm five more judges next week. McConnell has no choice but to grow a backbone and stand up to these obstructionist Democrats. It's clear he doesn't want to, but he's seeing the writing on the wall.primary every last one of the obstructionist RINOs

Elections have consequences so the Dem's will just have to " Eat there peas "

Lets fundamentally change this country back to ...more
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 26, 17 9:58 PM
Happy Birthday Hillary! We all chipped in and got you this really cool yellow cake.
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 1:04 AM
Let’s review hillary’s 2016 election te, shall we?

Hillary- married to a rapist
Bill Clinton- rapist
Huma- married child sexual predator
Wiener- in jail for repeat child sexual predator offenses
John Podesta- spirit dinner chef with kiddies in the pool
Harvey Weinstein- rapist
Hollywood- covering for rapists
NBC political division - rapist
MSM- covering for rapists.
Tim Bishop- gopher

By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 27, 17 5:37 AM
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But you voted for the p.... grabber. So what's your point? The Trump enabling beloved Fox news puts his approval rating at 38%. None of this really matters till the 2018 or 2020 elections. The more anybody watches or supports Trump, however realizes there is nothing more to him. He's proven he's just a petulant child playing in the sandbox. He has no morals or convictions, the buck never stops with him. He's gutless, coward, incompetent, stupid, lazy, dishonest liar. The rest of the drumpf supporters ...more
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Oct 27, 17 5:58 AM
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Whataboutism (also known as whataboutery) is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument,[1][2] [3] which is particularly associated with Soviet and Russian propaganda.[4][5][6] When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[7][8][9]

The term "whataboutery" has been ...more
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Oct 27, 17 8:17 AM
Your part of the poison, deporting Trump supporters would be a good start. Your sanctuary state is waiting for you in a Trump named hotel in Moscow. Remember when Trump said during his campaign, wouldn't it be great if we got along with Russia!
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Oct 27, 17 12:03 PM
During the Obama years Russia seemed more reasonable then our own government. We have much in common with the Russian except when it comes to rules red tape and regulations they are more free also they still have a wonderful sense of humor and there women still no how to be woman! It is Putin that is dangerous no the Russian people.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 27, 17 7:27 PM
Yes, the crackdown on gays and a three-day war with Georgia were shining examples of reason.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 28, 17 7:13 AM
Trump Derangement Syndrome on display!
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 27, 17 6:33 AM
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Oh you'll see some TDS when my taxes go up. The liar promised a tax cut!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 6:50 AM
Did you vote Democrat for the local and state elections? Bad news, you voted for your taxes to go up.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:14 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:27 AM
Where do I vote to stop my federal tax dollars from being spent in other states 2 to 1?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:27 AM
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Governor.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:40 AM
I don't think you understand how federalism works.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 9:00 AM
Can you even vote?
Oct 27, 17 2:14 PM appended by Po Boy
Btw, got a source for the 2 to 1 "stat?"
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 2:14 PM
Lol, only until my naturalization gets revoked if some conservatives get their way.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 2:17 PM
Ok, but just do it once. Only telling you because sometimes Democrats don't understand that too well.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 2:24 PM
Well I am still registered at my prior polling place, so I probably could if I wanted. Too bad I'm a rational person and committing a felony is too high-risk for such meager benefit.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 2:29 PM
Yes, you sound like a rational person. Good point.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 3:49 PM
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by JOHN NOLTE26 Oct 20179,266
Buried under countless paragraphs of outright lies or those soon-to-be retracted “bombshells” from anonymous sources, the national media will sometimes slip in a variation of the only thing we know to be true in this matter: As of now there is no evidence President Trump colluded with the Russians to rig the 2016 presidential election. The same can no longer be said for Hillary Clinton.
Although her lackeys in the media are trying to tell us that ...more
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 27, 17 7:48 AM
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Can you please pinpoint for us where the campaign lied, and what evidence you have that it was a lie?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:04 AM
Can you please pinpoint for us where it was accurately reported? Let me guess, someone "misplaced" 9 million dollars and someone "forgot" they directed the former British spy with ties to Russia to go there to facilitate the input from the Kremlin.
Oct 27, 17 8:11 AM appended by Po Boy
Oh, and to add...someone "forgot" that the dossier against Trump was completely fabricated when it was used to initiate investigations into his campaign.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:11 AM
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So what you're saying is you believe the campaign lied but can't pinpoint the lie or demonstrate it was a lie?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:26 AM
See my post above for what I'm saying.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:33 AM
You suggest there was inaccurate reporting.

If there was no source of accurate reporting, how do you know about it?

If there was an accurate source, kindly point us to it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:34 AM
Follow the bouncing ball Fore... the media was fed a false story... it was clearly false...
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:37 AM
And I'm asking you what the real story is, and what evidence you have of it.

If you have a good answer to that question you might even earn a Pullitzer!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 8:40 AM
Good answer: See post above for real story with emphasis now on "misplaced" 9 million dollars and "forgot" direction of former British spy with ties to Russia and "forgot" dossier was false when it was used to begin allegations against Trump.

Keep the Pulitzer, I want nothing to do with the slimy and corrupt media.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 8:49 AM
So it's just what you think happened? Got it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 9:00 AM
@Fore: You admirably asked the right questions, but, as my Dad used to say, you can't talk to a gorilla. Against all evidence, knuckleheads cannot be moved away from what they want to believe. Neither, as evidenced by the circular argument above, can they ever provide proof for their knuckleheadedness. Assert, then re-assert is either their idea of proof, or their only option/default position.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 27, 17 11:44 AM
We can only hope that same manner of thinking does not permeate the halls of government as much as POTUS makes it appear.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 11:49 AM
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"So it's just what you think happened? Got it."

All documented as factual at this time. Oh, and btw, here's another tidbit that you can get.

Podesta, the Hillary Clinton Campaign manager testified to the Senate that he did not know who funded the Dossier. Well, we now know it was Hillary's campaign and the DNC. And who was sitting right next to him? Marc Elias. Elias was representing Podesta at the hearing, but he is ALSO a Partner at Perkins Coie, the firm who was paid to launder ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 2:13 PM
So it sounds like you have documented proof that the Hillary AND Podesta were aware of the existence, contents, and source of the dossier. Could you point me in that direction?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 2:26 PM
Documented proof LMAO, that's so cute. Here's one out of the media and Democratic (but I repeat myself) playbook... anonymous sources have said it to be true.

There it is however..."documented proof." That's your top cover and the game you play knowing full well the finely tuned and oiled machine of Washington politics NEVER allows for documented proof. You should be very proud. A story is fabricated, paid for by the DNC and Hillary campaign, fed to the lap dog media, who then goes to ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 2:55 PM
Weren't you the one that said the allegations were "all documented as factual at this time?"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 3:01 PM
Everything I've stated has in fact taken place. Who, what, when, where and how, is another story. That's what I call documented proof. I simply doubt those particulars will ever be known. Why is that so difficult to understand or acknowledge?
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 3:47 PM
Don’t bother Po ........
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 27, 17 10:02 AM
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I'm just trying to reach probable cause. Are you saying the evidence to get us there doesn't exist?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 10:06 AM
You're doing no such thing. Don't insult us with the armchair passive aggression.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 2:16 PM
Actually, you've all piqued my curiosity. I'm genuinely interested in ensuring justice is carried out. Let's hold hearings until 2020 and let the facts speak for themselves.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 2:21 PM
Bull. You know full well we'll never see the full facts. It's the only reason you're willing to do so. The cockroaches are already taking cover. It's no different than Hillary violating security protocol with having her own server and deleting 30,000 emails related the Chelsea and yoga routines or having a Benghazi shredding party.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 2:35 PM
So everyone involved in the investigations is corrupt, including the agents of the FBI, a crown jewel of American law enforcement? And the Republican legislators who will hold the hearings?

Occam's razor, Po' Boy. The perspective that makes the least number of assumptions tends to be correct.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 2:42 PM
Evidence upon evidence of wrong doing is not assumptions. That's reasonable suspicion.

I never go with everyone for anything. But, we've seen Comey was corrupt and we now know there is good reason Mueller should recuse himself, beyond the initial speculation that he had potential conflict of interest. 28 CFR 600.7 specifically prohibits those with a conflict of interest from serving. It's been interpreted to mean that even the appearance of a conflict is sufficient for disqualification. ...more
Oct 27, 17 3:04 PM appended by Po Boy
You continue to have delusions of grandeur like all the evidence will be put forward and determination be made. That's not reality in the work of Washington politics.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 3:04 PM
And you continue to have delusions that an unfavorable outcome indicates impropriety in the investigation.

Instead, I choose to trust the integrity of people with a lifetime in law enforcement, absent evidence to the contrary.
Oct 27, 17 3:19 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
The funny part is that we're discussing an investigation that hasn't even begun in earnest. You're giving away the playbook for when it doesn't work out the way you'd life.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 3:19 PM
No doubt we have a different definition of "unfavorable outcome".

My very sound opinion is simply based on instance after instance of chicanery in a system managed, played and owned by can be described as either corrupt, or bankrupt of integrity. It's no different than the management principle deployed by the mob or cartels. So, you trust the mob and cartels?
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 3:45 PM
You're using a lot of words but you're not really saying anything.

I asked what evidence there was of your allegations, and you're saying that "we'll never see the full facts."

That's pretty much the end of any productive discussion, isn't it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 3:53 PM
Apparently, the delusions are shared by many. Whether its the end depends on whether you're capable of acknowledging the potential for lack of impartiality.

Robert Mueller should recuse himself from Russia investigation
William G. Otis, June 14, 2017. Former FBI director is too close to his successor, James Comey, to be impartial.

Robert Mueller is a man of integrity with a long record of public service. In the abstract, he would be the right selection as special counsel in ...more
Oct 27, 17 3:57 PM appended by Po Boy
No, productive discussion ended when you can't acknowledge and respect others opinion and when you referred to it as idiocy. Now as far as the evidence to the allegations, you asked, I provided. If you think we'll ever see the full facts, yes, I think that's delusional. What's wrong with that?
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 3:57 PM
I'm plenty capable of acknowledging a lack of impartiality when it's demonstrated.

Except there's no evidence that Mueller and Comey have anything more than a professional relationship.

That view also ignores an entire team of attorneys that is collectively making decisions throughout the entire process.

Occam's razor...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 4:09 PM
ahhhh, yes.... "when it's demonstrated." A little late, wouldn't you say?

So, we have Mueller conflicts of interest, an investigative team stacked with Obama and Hillary supporters... for starters... let's add attorney client privlege and deniability to the things that make you go hmmm nd reasons we'll likely NEVER get all the facts. Now why would the Clinton Campaign hire attorneys to do their dirty work such as Fusion GPS, one might ask?

It's law enforcement 101 to avoid any ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 27, 17 5:38 PM
Let's play this out: Mueller absolves Comey, Hillary and the campaign of any wrongdoing, afterward it's demonstrated that the investigation was tainted and what happens? Well they were never charged, so there's no reason you can't charge them now.

And now you've got Mueller for obstruction of justice.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 6:00 PM
Let's have a 1 year investigation on Dem involvement with Russians and see if there's nothing there as is the case with Trump. "A lot of smoke there" should apply to the dems as it was applied to Trump! MAGA!!!!
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Oct 27, 17 10:52 AM
I agree, and it should be noted that hearings on Uranium One are already scheduled.

In fact, I think we should hold hearings for three years straight and let the cards fall where they may. If wrongdoing is found and prosecuted, good. If it's another waste of tax payer dollars and congressional time, I hope the American people take note.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 10:58 AM
Taz = unhinged
By johnj (929), Westhampton on Oct 27, 17 3:26 PM
Hillary Clinton deserves being tried for treason... and what about Obama, and the others complicit in assisting, allowing, and covering-up for Hillary's crimes. They all gave America's government and her military to the enemy.This is equivalent to what the Rosenberg's did !
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 27, 17 7:46 PM
Well, you've just about said it all there, huh joe?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 9:27 PM
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clinton / russia / denial

everything clinton and dnc were falsely accusing president trump of doing, they were doing ! i really cant get over this. its so amazing!
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 28, 17 1:51 AM
Nah.

joe is just parroting the usual right wing radio nutjobs. As usual.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 29, 17 12:11 PM


IMPACT 10/26/2017 11:45 am ET

Environmental Destruction, Inequality And Loneliness. Why Capitalism Is Broken.
Albert Einstein’s scribbled note on happiness is wisdom worth remembering.

By Jo Confino

When everything seems to be changing, it becomes increasingly important to know what endures.

A timely reminder of this has come this week thanks to the auction in Israel of a small note that the physicist Albert Einstein gave to a Japanese courier ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 27, 17 11:59 AM
June, So you know, I NEVER read your lengthy dissertations. Please keep it short and to the point.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Oct 27, 17 12:03 PM
Truth be told, any indication that more than 50% of a comment is copy/pasted gets an eye-roll from me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 12:19 PM
So, Taz, when did you become the list moderator? Just so you know, you're under no obligation to read or even participate. I prefer context, but apparently some attention spans can only handle bumper stickers. Sad.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 27, 17 12:43 PM
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Now, now, kids. The comments section is a sandbox. We can build castles or throw dirt, but we can't do both.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 12:55 PM
I'm thinking maybe Twitter would be a better fit for the abbreviates.
And how is it there's nary a peep when other posters post lengthy pieces?
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 27, 17 1:16 PM
Because Taz is only interested in criticizing lefties.

Rest assured, the eyes roll on this end no matter whose name is next to the copy/pasted walls of text.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 27, 17 1:20 PM
NFL owner blasts protesters: 'Can't have inmates running prison'...

Remember to turn off the National Felons League and get some fresh air with the family this weekend !
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 27, 17 7:38 PM
NeedToImpeach [dot] com

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (264), Sag Harbor on Oct 27, 17 5:45 PM
Panetta: Intelligence Committee Needs to Look into Clinton/DNC Dossier Payment
Former CIA Director Leon Panetta told CNN that the Intel Committee need to look into the DNC and Clinton campaign.
Oct 28, 17 7:32 PM appended by They call me
UPDATE: Mueller facing new pressure to resign...Lock Her Up -Damnit! Since the "Dossier" is now an outright lie, Sessions should UN-RECUSE himself, fire Mueller AND Rodstien. Then announce a new investigation of the Podesta bros & Uranium One corruption. Yeah & all of those other D-criminals. Rice for wire tapping Trump. Lerner for her IRS treachery. Lynch for the Tarmac Incident. Holder for 'Fast & Furious'. Mueller, Rodstien & that fool Comey for massive obstruction of justice. The WHOLE Clinton Crime Family. And, most of all -Barry himself 'cause he knew it all!
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 27, 17 7:32 PM
ITS ALL FALLING APART NOW ! Joe and PoBoy were right when he said on Tuesday as of 10 O'Clock hour all hell is now breaking lose! You all owe him an apology

Sean Hannity show tonight was no less than historic!

I believe in the following days not only will President Trump be completely vindicated but the world will have to admit that not only is the Russian collusion real but its has always been between the Clinton's and Russia and about the selling out American security for $ ...more
Oct 28, 17 12:43 AM appended by 27dan
Now would be a good time... Fore1gnBornHBgrown,Metsfan,June,VOS, Mr. Z, johnj ,highhatsize, and PHILL@HOME... to take a look at all you have said !
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 28, 17 12:43 AM
Did you read my comment about copy/pasted walls of text?

It still applies if it's your own comment from last week.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 28, 17 7:08 AM
First reading on third-quarter GDP up 3.0%, vs 2.5% rise expected
The U.S. economy unexpectedly maintained a brisk pace of growth in the third quarter.
Oct 28, 17 8:08 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
GREAT AGAIN: GDP 3.0%...
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 28, 17 8:08 AM
Funny as hell to watch Carl Bernstein and Jeffrey Toobin on Anderson Cooper tonight twist and turn and try and come up with some last ditch Muller charge to change the narrative and take the heat of the Dems
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 28, 17 12:52 AM
First arrest will take place this coming week? Goody!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 28, 17 8:09 AM
Get the tax cut done. Keep ObamaCare imploding. Chip away at getting the wall built. Borders have been extremely tightened. Globalism has been neutralized. America First is going strong. Stock market thru the roof. Economy roaring.

Dinosaurs in charge of the Dems. Whack jobs speaking for the Dems. MSM humiliated daily. GOP runs 2/3 of America.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 28, 17 8:11 AM
Please save SALT though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 28, 17 8:13 AM
Mueller is in the midst of attempting a media coup. He and Comey need to be exposed. This is now out of control and complete BS!!!! All hell will break loose if he tries some 11th hour Hocus Pocus. Its obvious this id a last ditch effort the distract the public and right there crooked pirate ship! I am afraid for them it is to late and if they try and disenfranchise millions of Americans because the left doesn't like the way the election turned out? ... Its High Noon and about to get real ugly!
Oct 28, 17 8:26 AM appended by joe hampton
Mueller is in the midst of attempting a media coup. He and Comey need to be exposed. This is now out of control and complete BS!!!! All hell will break loose if he tries some 11th hour Hocus Pocus. Its obvious this is a last ditch effort to distract the public and right there crooked pirate ship! I'm afraid for them it is now too late and if they try and disenfranchise millions of Americans because the left doesn't like the way the election turned out? ... Its High Noon and about to get real ugly!
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 28, 17 8:26 AM
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Ummm someone please quietly explain to Foregone that an indictment is not an arrest, omg they are so desperate now.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 28, 17 8:38 AM
You're actually right, an arrest doesn't always result in charges, and indictment does.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 28, 17 9:05 AM
liberal hollywood - rapists
liberal media - rapists
liberal public schools - rampant with liberal child sexual predators

hillary clinton - married to rapist
bill clinton - rapist
john podesta - child sexual predator/spirit dinner type
huma - married to jailed child sexual predator
weiner - child sexual predator
uncle harvey the sugar daddy - rapist

that's why the left is so on edge when it comes to abortion rights.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Oct 28, 17 8:32 AM
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What would that say about the Right's obsession with gay people?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 29, 17 7:17 AM
Please explain your comment...I’m confused
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 9:14 AM
Right wing list of sex offenders. The law and order, family values people, LOL...


EDISON ISLA ALDORANDO, Speaker of the Puerto RicoAHouse of Representatnve , reached a eal with prosecutors to reduce a rape charge to attempted rape f his 17 year-old step daughter and her friend. He was sentenced to 13 years in prison for the lesser crime and two counts of giving alcohol to minorsp


FL STATE REP. BOB ALLEN (R-Merrit Island) was arrested on July 11, 2007 and charged ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 2:28 AM
Bonus list, with some repetition, and sources at the end:

Republican pastor Mike Hintz , whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd was arrested on suspicion of soliciting sex with an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 2:56 AM
That's why you voted for a p.... grabber slime. What's your point?
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Oct 28, 17 8:37 AM
oh mets, who would have thought you were here? could you please explain to Fore.... umm oh wait forget it.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 28, 17 8:40 AM
Also, the reports are that someone is going into custody this coming week. I guess we'll see!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 28, 17 9:08 AM
Take it from me a Bernie supporter who got stabbed in the back by the Clinton machine. This latest Muller thing is a desperate attempt by team Hillary / Obama to get the dogs off the trail. The corruption runs deep! No not this time Hillary not this time!
By local 84 (334), riverhead on Oct 28, 17 9:48 AM
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Uranium One ! Hillary and Bill took hundreds of million from RUSSIA in a pay for play scandal. Trump did nothing.

Come On... Mueller, is a crooked cop, and has much more Russian implications than Trump. Liberals, are very good at self-delusion, I will give you that. They just Deflect! Deflect! Deflect! Mueller is attempting to subvert the weekend news cycle away from Hillary's and the Democrat's Russian Uranium One crimes. Charging Manafort or Flynn is totally unrelated to Hillary's crimes ...more
Oct 28, 17 8:35 PM appended by joe hampton
Someone here said there ought to be a law.... There's already is a law, trouble is we are having real problems finding good lawman. It's time for Sessions to quit riding the bench and get in the game! If not he must head for the showers and turn in his title.
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 28, 17 8:35 PM
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hillary fans just as excited about mueller as they were about

the billy bush tapes burying Trump
hillary beating trump
the sally yates testimony finishing Trump
the maddow tax return reveal exposing Trump
the comey testimony putting Trump away

They don't understand the irony in their falling from guaranteeing Trump won't win the presidency to guaranteeing Trump won't last the presidency.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 7:59 AM
Hilarious!

Now that Mueller has filed criminal charges against one or more of the Trump crew, the Right-Wing true believers herein have declared him to be a crook, despite his unparalleled record of probity. (Never woulda seen that coming!)

Another irrational triumph of belief over fact caused by the same fear of the truth that leads them to declare that every news article that reflects badly on Trump is "fake news". They have long since made themselves impervious to reason.

Paul ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Oct 29, 17 9:15 AM
It's Swift Boat redux.
Deflect, misdirect, falsely implicate, falsely accuse. Won't work this time.
Not a single yahoo has shown the slightest indication they know the actual facts and terms of the Uranium One sale, yet they bray.
I hope dump continues derogatory Tweets directed at the Special Counsel. Mr. High IQ is so smart that he is unaware that that is ultimately what brought Nixon down. The dam breaks tomorrow.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 29, 17 12:33 PM
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The Wall Street Journal, among others have called for him to step down.

"Any honest probe must examine the Obama White House and Justice Department. Mueller served as head of the FBI for more than four years under President Obama and cannot be expected to investigate his former colleagues and bosses.

But without that necessary step, his work would be incomplete at best"

All very logical. Save the drama for your momma.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 29, 17 6:44 PM
The WSJ is embarrassing some very good reporters by running Orwellian Breitbart editorials. But it's just what they do, and 'twas ever thus.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 29, 17 7:21 PM
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By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 29, 17 10:06 AM
The conversation was about Hillary going down and taking the rest of them with her ! This is an attempt at changing that inevitability ! We the people are not stupid ! Back on subject after this sudden little side show of Muller's.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 29, 17 10:24 AM
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By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 29, 17 10:47 AM
Well, you tell us since you're so gosh darn smart.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 2:00 AM
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By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 29, 17 7:43 PM
Junie ... what have I been ranting about???
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 29, 17 10:09 PM
"Earlier in the week, reports revealed that the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee continued funding Fusion's work after the original GOP source lost interest."
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 2:13 AM
I'll do it if you promise to watch Sean Hannity this week on fox at 9 pm you just might learn something
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 29, 17 9:46 PM
The AG works for you Mr. President. You can order him to appoint a special prosecutor. This is a Turning Point
The Inflection Point
Sessions Must Act
Lock her up !
Hilliary is about to have her WEINSTEIN MOMENT.
The people's patience has worn thin...
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 29, 17 9:56 PM
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We need a real AG Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Judge Jeanine ? We The People demand Justice..it's time for an Independent Counsel to investigate UraniumGate and DossierGate..ASAP!!
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 29, 17 9:59 PM
There is treatment for apophenia.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 7:24 AM
to Mr. Z:

Spot on.

I was attributing our Right-Wingers penchant for finding "evidence" (or "conspiracy") where none exists to their fallacious reasoning (specifically, the fallacy of hasty generalization), but you're right, their history on this site is symptomatic of mental disability.

Poor souls. We must treat them with compassion, however provocative their ignorant posturings.

It's not their fault.
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Oct 30, 17 9:18 AM
Mueller The Yellow Cake Mule desperately needs to DIVERT attention away from his own criminality... when he willingly engaged in carrying mine samples (in a “diplomatic” pouch) to Russian “authorities” for Hillery’s PAY-TO-PLAY, URANIUM-ONE RUSSIAN COLLUSION!

If this is the best that Yellow Cake Mule Boy can muster ? ... A NOTHING BURGER WITH ZERO CONNECTION TO TRUMP’’S ELECTION CAMPAIGN...than The Deep State is in deepest of doo doo! With todays ...more
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 30, 17 12:44 PM
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WEEK 8 WAS A ATTENDANCE DISASTER FOR THE NATIONAL FELONS LEAGUE !

We are doing great keep it up ! Don't buy the stinking ticket. We, the people have to shut the NFL down...for good
Enjoy your time with your kids, your girl, your wife, your buddies. Let this hijacked organization wither on the vine like it deserves. You will be happy you did. They all deserve to be broke and looking for work at Burger King !
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 29, 17 11:40 PM
ESPN attendance records still show you to be a liar.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 2:04 AM
The attendence is not the way to measure nfl success. They are in tv contracts that require they pay back millions when pre agreed upon rating benchmarks are missed. And they have been missed. You keep counting the number of hot dogs sold, though.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 30, 17 6:50 AM
Reading comprehension skills lacking?

"Don't buy a stinking ticket."
Oct 30, 17 7:01 AM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. The decline in NFL tv ratings, as well as other sports has been going on for well over five years. Jumping on a bandwagon doesn't make you right.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 7:01 AM
Frankly, I thought they'd be doing worse after everyone hopped on-board BLM's boycott of the NFL
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By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 30, 17 1:03 PM
DEMOCRAT CORRUPTION ALL-STAR TEAM

* Hillary Clinton
* Barack Obama
* Loretta Lynch
* Lois Lerner
* Bill Clinton
* Samantha Powers
* Susan Rice
* Debbie Wasserman Schultz
* James Comey
* John Podesta
* Tony Podesta
* Robert Mueller
* Rod Rosenstein
* James Clapper
* John Brennan
* Donna Brazile
* Huma Abedin
* Anthony Weiner
* Eric Holder
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 30, 17 6:48 AM
My favorite names on that list are Mueller and Rosenstein, two lifelong Republicans.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 8:10 AM
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No sorry but the 2 best names on the list are Debbie Wasserman Schultz &
Donna Brazile !
By local 84 (334), riverhead on Oct 30, 17 12:51 PM
Better than the pages of GOP pedophiles, adulterers, molesters, child pornographists, and rapists.

If you have to choose a lesser evil, it's obviously not the GOP.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 7:25 PM
Manafort's going to prison. Trump not far behind. Lock them all up!
By johnj (929), Westhampton on Oct 30, 17 9:39 AM
So it would appear the indictments have nothing to do with his campaign invovlements, Trump, or Russia for that matter.

Now, on to the indictments of Hillary and company and THEIR involvement in collusion with Russia.
Oct 30, 17 9:47 AM appended by Po Boy
....AND the felony leak of the indictments to CNN (by Mueller's staff?) to the media.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 30, 17 9:47 AM
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Don't fret, Trumpets. It's just garden-variety charges of CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE US levied against the former Trump campaign manager, nothing to see here.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 10:14 AM
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It's how white collar criminals get arraigned, not a felony leak. Nobody has to go to Manafort's house and slap cuffs on him.
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Oct 30, 17 10:34 AM
DON'T GET DISTRACTED

This is purely to protect Hillary Clinton, by handing a narrative to the Fake News Media to seize on. They are going to drag this out with a drip drip of leaks... for the remainder of Trump's first four years.

Focus - Clinton must be held to account.

TRUMP MUST SEIZE THE MOMENT AND INSTRUCT SESSIONS TO INDICT HILLARY - OR REPLACE SESSIONS AND APPOINT SOMEONE WHO WILL.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 30, 17 10:53 AM
Don't take my "likes" the wrong way...reading your comments has literally brought me great joy this morning.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 10:57 AM
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Once the unnamed informant comes forward, The facts will start to unfold. This is all just a distraction from the Russia collusion on the Left, oh lookie lookie over here says the fake MSM and corrupt FBI to all their dumbed down viewers.timing was so obvious it hurts to watch!

LOCK UP THE LEFT ALREADY!!
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Oct 30, 17 12:49 PM
Well, there is an informant. Just not the kind you think.

George Papadopoulos
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 31, 17 4:05 AM
When you find actual rigged voting machines,money laundering,and direct conversations of steering policy to be Pro-Russia with the President himself,then get back to me! Until then where is the charges for Hillary Clinton,President Obama,and everyone else who approved the sale of uranium,a key ingredient to nuclear and chemical weapons that Russia's ally Iran so desires?

LOCK HER UP .
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 30, 17 10:48 AM
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This got drowned out by the Manafort indictment, but did you see that the case against George Papadopoulos was also unsealed?

He secretly plead guilty three weeks ago to lying to the FBI about his contacts with Russian government actors.

In other words: Trump's former campaign advisor took a plea deal and has been cooperating with investigators!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 11:33 AM
from what i have seen mr papadopoulos offered the trump campaign an audience with puten and trump flat out declined all of those offers ? so where is the collusion ? this thing has been a witch hunt from day one and mr trump has been vindicated by it.

NOW LETS START THE REAL WITCH HUNT !!!
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 30, 17 12:24 PM
Yes ! Erin Yes!

Lock her up!

Mueller was involved in the shady Uranium-one deal as head of the FBI. If the DOJ decides to investigate this, Mueller also will be under investigation. That is why Mueller is now throwing misdirection every way he can.
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 30, 17 12:32 PM
"NOW LETS START THE REAL WITCH HUNT !!!"

What a beautiful piece of unintended honesty, Erin.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 12:56 PM
Lol. The last desperate grasp at straws.

The history books will not be kind to the short-lived Trump administration or the people who supported it.

By johnj (929), Westhampton on Oct 30, 17 11:02 AM
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john people like you are about to have there reality shattered, soon it will be clear that thinks you have said hear are flat out fantasy. Hillary is about to have some explaining to do. and who will defend her ? you
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 30, 17 12:20 PM
*their
*things
*here
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 1:04 PM
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Is this Fore......or June ???
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 30, 17 4:40 PM
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Wait, I thought I was mets. When did June become the Jekyll to my Hyde?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 5:26 PM
You are a traitor Erin.
By johnj (929), Westhampton on Oct 31, 17 9:19 AM
Good one john, "racist" had become so passe'.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 9:34 AM
Ah . . . the fire of collusion and guilt gets closer to the White House.

Wait for the pitch of the squeals to rise, as Mueller's probe continues nearer and nearer to the top of the pyramid.

Fiddle! Fiddle! Fiddle!
By Nero (264), Sag Harbor on Oct 30, 17 1:16 PM
This is a cynical attempt to achieve three things:

1. Keep 'Russia Russia Russia' alive - and Mueller's investigation going for as long as it possible.

2. Link Trump to alleged criminality (nothing is yet proven with Manafort, and it will be dragged out to keep it in the legacy media).

3. Muddy the water for when Hillary gets questioned about Russia collusion - to give the appearance that 'everybody was talking to Russians', and to normalise such behaviour - an Alinksy ...more
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Oct 30, 17 1:18 PM
Or is it possible that Paul Manafort broke the law and should be prosecuted?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 1:20 PM
That is absurd.

Everyone knows that the President and ALL of his friends, associates and subordinates NEVER DID ANYTHING ILLEGAL,

. . . AND THAT THE ENTIRE WORLD IS OUT TO GET THEM!

Fiddle! Fiddle! Fiddle!
By Nero (264), Sag Harbor on Oct 30, 17 1:50 PM
Who cares what this guy Manafort did ten years ago, all weekend the news lead us to believe this was going to be related to the Trump champaign. If you have dirt on Trump for real that would be great news ! but I just don't see it at this time. What i do see is a very corrupt Hillary Clinton in a half a dozen ways, what she did to the Sanders champagne id disgusting. Its high time we look into Hillary as well !
By local 84 (334), riverhead on Oct 30, 17 2:26 PM
Um...anyone with any interest in justice cares what Manafort did ten years ago.

When Bill Clinton was impeached for lying under oath it was because the investigation into Whitewater turned up other wrongdoing.

Now, Mueller's turning over stones uncovered Manafort's past wrongdoing. Why wouldn't we prosecute him?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 2:36 PM
And Mueller STILL has nothing on Trump, desperate to make himself relevant.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Oct 30, 17 2:45 PM
Maybe, maybe not. The only ones who really know are Mueller and his team!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 3:27 PM
Bait and switch,an age old trick.It won't work this time,we will get Hillary.There's too much out there. Sooner or later one of her henchmen or henchwomen will take a deal and spill their guts. A matter of time.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Oct 30, 17 2:07 PM
"We will get Hillary" sounds like something that would go on the tombstone of the Republican party.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 2:20 PM
Here's a newsflash:I'm a Dem who's fed up with the swamp. Country would be better off without the Clinton Crime syndicate and the Bush Crime Family.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Oct 30, 17 2:26 PM
In the spirit of Halloween, if Clinton is ever found guilty of a crime, she and Trump could be buried together in the same tomb!

Then the rest of us could get get on with BUILDING a harmonious . . .

. . . Peace on Earth . . .

Remember that phrase?

Try acting it out, everyone!

POE
By PBR (4885), Southampton on Oct 30, 17 2:27 PM
That was a general quip about the Republican party's obsession with Hillary, not about you in particular Taz.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 3:00 PM
Anyone not connecting this indictment as a response to findings in the Obama/Clinton - DNC- Fusion GPS information, Is either a dishonest political hack or just isn't paying attention!
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Oct 30, 17 2:36 PM
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"Anyone who thinks Trump's campaign managers getting indicted isn't about Clinton is crazy!"

Well, ok then.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 2:40 PM
Will you please stop insulting our intelligence already. . There is no Trump connection to Paul Manaforts alleged history of wrong doing.. and the other person of interest was not even an official part of the campaign he was a volunteer. When he tried to lead the Trump campaign into a meeting with Russia the answer was a flat out no "we are not interested" . Once again proving the president's integrity . You mock the president saying " it's just the whole world out to get him" well it has ...more
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Oct 30, 17 2:51 PM
That "volunteer" was announced as a member of Trump's foreign policy team in March 2016.

During his tenure he told an unnamed campaign official about his contacts with two people with ties to the Russian gov't, and that unnamed official responded "great work" and "[we'll] work it through the campaign."

Uranium One hearings are already slated and if any wrongdoing is found it should be prosecuted accordingly!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 2:59 PM
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I do believe the only person getting a good night sleep these days, is President Trump.Podesta is looking into non extradition countries right now. Hope they put a hold on his passport! Today has proved only that Mueller and his investigation has no credibility whatsoever. But therein lies the dilemma for Mueller. A real probe of Hillary would mean a review of his own actions and those of his colleagues . . . Tick Tock . . . . Tick Tock . . . .
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 30, 17 4:20 PM
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WIDOW NAILS IT AGAIN!!
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 30, 17 6:21 PM
Perhaps there is no connection, but it proves Trump's leadership capabilities for hiring the man.

D-U-M-B
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 7:20 PM
Uh, I think it shows Trump's leadership ability for firing him.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 7:53 AM
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So he's a bad judge of character upfront, but eventually gets it right?

That's a lackluster quality.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 8:14 AM
No, Manafort served a purpose to get Trump the nomination given his expert knowledge of the process.

That is an excellent quality.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 9:15 AM
So he's willing to hire an unscrupulous character as long as it benefits him?

That's even worse.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 9:19 AM
So you're saying trump knew. You must know something we don't. Do tell.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 9:22 AM
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So is Trump a good judge of character or not?

If he is, then he purposely hired an unethical person.

If he's not...well, that's what I'm saying. He's not.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 9:24 AM
Oh, thanks Kreskin. Good to know it's just your opinion rather than that fact we've seen no indication he knew.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 9:27 AM
LOL there's a name I haven't heard in a while.

I think it's a binary choice, though.

Is it possible that Trump is both a good judge of character AND didn't realize the Manafort was a shady guy?

I guess so, but it cuts against his being a good judge of character, doesn't it?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 9:54 AM
No Kreskin, circle back to it as much as you will, it does not cut against the President's judge of character - unless someone decides it is to their ideologue expedience to judge it as such. What speaks more is that when the President did become aware, he made the right decision by not tolerating questionable character.

And let's not forget, Manafort has not been convicted.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 10:48 AM
So, if Manafort is convicted, would it affect your view on whether Trump is a good judge of character?

Can a person consistently make personnel choices of questionable character (Manafort, Christie, Flynn, Scaramucci) and still laud themselves as a good judge of character?

How many shady characters chosen would it take to bring into question whether Trump is actually a good judge of character?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 11:01 AM
Don't play twenty questions if you don't get your preferred response. It's boring.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 11:13 AM
I thought we were having a discussion on what it means to be a good judge of character and whether that applies to Trump.

If you're not here for discourse then why are you here?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 11:17 AM
That's now 21 questions. Discussion is one thing, circular ridiculousness is another.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 11:25 AM
So were you interested in that discussion? Do you agree with Trump's view that he's a good judge of character?

You can choose to not form an opinion on it at all and avoid the discussion altogether, but a yes/no answer is subject to debate and discussion.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 11:34 AM
Zzzzzzzzz.....
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 11:36 AM
Thanks for your thoughtful reply :-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 11:40 AM
Got what it deserved :-)
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 11:49 AM
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"Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought.
To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears.
To be led by a fool is to be led by the opportunists who control the fool.
To be led by a thief is to offer up your most precious treasures to be stolen.
To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies.
To be led by a tyrant is to sell yourself and those you love into slavery."
...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 30, 17 5:23 PM
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To idolize criminals is to be a Democrat
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 30, 17 6:23 PM
Really?

Apparently you've missed the GOP history of pedophiles, child pornographers, rapists, adulterers, murderers, molesters, and Ted Bundy.

Yes, once a "rising star" with the GOP, Bundy fell far, far from grace...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 30, 17 7:45 PM
Tony pedo steps down ??? must be breaking out the bleach bit and hammers before the raid

That informant should be in a bunker...

This whole damn thing is a smokescreen scam to black out Uranium One, 'mini' civil war is already on.

The conglomerate of criminals and traitors has been revealed, in full.Everyone seems to have forgotten about that FBI informant!This is gonna get way outta control as the truth is revealed about Fusion GPS & The Fake Trump Dossier along with ...more
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Oct 30, 17 6:01 PM
The swamp dwellers and their sycophants in the MSM are getting desperate! Look for more fake news regarding alleged Trump misdeeds, all a scam to keep the focus off of the PIAPS (PIG IN A PANTSUIT)!
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 30, 17 6:26 PM
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Oooh, do you know something we don't fresh? Please dish!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 30, 17 6:41 PM
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Former Trump adviser George Papadopoulos told Mueller Russia offered “dirt” on Clinton

This could potentially be bigger than Manafort.

Updated by Alex Ward@AlexWardVoxalex.ward@vox.com Oct 30, 2017, 2:38pm EDT


George Papadopoulos, who served as a foreign policy adviser to the Trump campaign, secretly pleaded guilty three weeks ago to charges that he lied to federal agents about meetings he had with Russians linked to the Kremlin during the 2016 presidential ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 31, 17 2:59 AM
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Jeez JuneZ your tinfoil hat must be on extra snug this morning.
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Oct 31, 17 6:45 AM
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Nope.

3 Republicans were still in the race for the nomination, but the Russians only contacted one. That June meeting is starting to look like it may have some relevance. Especially if Popadopoulos was wearing a wire and conversed with certain people about certain subject matter...
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 31, 17 3:20 PM
To be led by HRC......
The horror
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 30, 17 6:06 PM
If the election was held today, Trump would beat any democrat candidate by a mile
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Oct 31, 17 5:49 AM
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Personall, I'm glad Mueller arrested Manafort for working with Russia while employed by the Podesta brothers under obama.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Oct 31, 17 6:51 AM
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You sound confused.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 7:24 AM
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Drain the swamp.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 7:53 AM
Radio DNC (taxpayer funded NPR) has run non-stop speculation on how Manafort's indictment suggests Russia/Trump collusion and has invited a dozen guests throughout the day to speculate on it too. And yet, not one peep about Tony Podesta stepping down. Not one guest asked to speculate what that's about. That just wouldn't be consistent with their anti-Trump agenda.

Let's end taxpayer funding for NPR and the non-stop lib bias.
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Oct 31, 17 7:23 AM
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The building of every structure, whether a simple cabin or an elaborate mansion, usually begins with a foundation -- one brick at a time.

Mueller has started building just such a legal foundation, and it may take weeks or months, before the outline of the final building becomes obvious.

PATIENT observers of this process will sit back and wonder where it is headed. Impatient onlookers' speculations will be just that -- speculations.

Everyone might as well take a deep breath, ...more
By PBR (4885), Southampton on Oct 31, 17 8:01 AM
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For some reason I can't "like" your comment (it just refreshes the page) but you're spot on.

Let's wait and see where the chips fall before calling Trump a dead-man-walking or claiming Mueller is a democrat stooge.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 8:13 AM
Lots of chips yet to fall, yes, but the administration is already collapsing.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Oct 31, 17 11:37 AM
Considering the revolving door that's been installed in the west wing, one could argue it was never really put together all that well!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 11:43 AM
Every administration is different. Some of Trump's selections have left before other administrations, some have not.

Collapsing? Hardly.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 11:53 AM
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This administration has set several records for shortest tenures at various cabinet positions. I've lost count.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 11:57 AM
Yes, Washington establishment has not been happy and the corrupt democrat media has been relentless. But I'll make the point again, every administration is different and is usually reflective of the challenges they face.

For W, Obama , BJ Clinton, Reagan, the average turnover rate at the end of each president’s first term is 72 percent, meaning that an average of 44 staffers leave the White House in the first four years.*





*National Review Are Trump’s ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 12:32 PM
Was it the establishment's fault that Scaramucci openly accused Bannon of auto-fellatio?

Was it the media that made Flynn lie about his contacts with Russia?

These are all self-inflicted wounds, and rookie mistakes at that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 12:55 PM
Well, no Captain Obvious, Both mischaracterized examples against the applied standard were seemingly self-inflicted by those individuals. I think the average American is ok with a few rookie mistakes in light of relentless pounding as long as it is handled properly when they arise and in the spirit of moving the country forward, and Trump has consistently done so.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 1:15 PM
Admittedly, I got stuck at "mischaracterized examples." I'd insist they're accurate characterizations, but how would you have described Scaramucci's phone call?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 1:34 PM
People don't plead guilty to "hoaxes".

They sealed Popadopoulos' guilty plea for a reason.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 31, 17 3:15 PM
Oye Fore....the context of your examples and use of them mischaracterized my point that the administration has faced relentless attacks - not the specifics of the two examples you selected to characterize. Let me try again, the relentless attacks and leaks have detracted from the business of the people and placed significant pressures on personnel in the administration. So sure, there will be turnover. Have there been rookie mistakes, of course. But that is normal as well.

Any dolt can ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Oct 31, 17 7:03 PM
I understand now, that's fair.
Oct 31, 17 7:19 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, a big thanks to the Press team for not censoring "auto-felatio"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Oct 31, 17 7:19 PM
Moving the country forward to what? Rookie mistakes, according to the child-liar-in- chief braggadocio, he was the greatest at everything. Believe me! Dumping coal waste into unsealed pits and estate tax breaks for the wealthy. That's some genius for sure. How can he judge character of those he has to choose to work with, when he has none himself.
By Mets fan (1323), Southampton on Nov 1, 17 5:59 AM
I think Po Boy is looking at the turnover in the context of the wave of criticism received by this administration, and suggesting that some erosion was to be expected.

That's a fair outlook, although Po Boy and I would probably disagree on whether that wave of criticism is deserved.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 17 6:07 AM
U.S. Consumer Confidence Just Hit Its Highest Level in Almost 17 Years

By Sho Chandra ‎October‎ ‎31‎, ‎2017‎
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Nov 1, 17 7:47 AM
GREAT AGAIN:
CONSUMER CONFIDENCE SOARS!
HOME PRICES REACH ALL-TIME HIGH
ECONOMY BEATS EXPECTATIONS
Oct 31, 17 1:06 PM appended by They call me
ECONOMY Consumer confidence hits highest level since December 2000 - Consumer confidence rose to 125.9 in October, according to the Conference Board. The rating is at the highest level since December 2000. This accounts for Americans' views of current economic conditions and their expectations for the next six months. Michael Sheetz Published 3 Hours Ago Updated 13 Mins Ago CNBC.com Consumer confidence index beats expectations at 125.9 13 Mins Ago |Consumer sentiment hits 100.7 in October Consumers were even more optimistic in October than economists polled by Reuters expected.
By They call me (2549), southampton on Oct 31, 17 1:06 PM
hooray, thats awesome news they call me!
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Oct 31, 17 1:16 PM
I wondered why there was renewed interest in the Hillary/Uranium story, despite the total lack of any new evidence in that bogus accusation. It is now clear that the Republicans are bringing it up anew to finesse a method for Trump to fire Robert Mueller (before his investigation mortally wounds the Trump presidency) without actually PERSONALLY firing him (which would stink so bad that not even the anosmic [regarding reprehensible behavior by their chief] lesser Republicans could rationalize it.) ...more
By highhatsize (3839), East Quogue on Oct 31, 17 3:08 PM
T-R-U-M-P = Sauce for the goose?
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Oct 31, 17 3:26 PM
Jake Tapper Reminds Us That 'Allahu Akbar' Can Be Beautiful, as News Develops of NYC Terror Incident...Really? Just terrible
By widow gavits (219), sag harbor on Oct 31, 17 9:00 PM
Truly disgusting!!
Praying for the victims families and all the injured.
Wake up America
By Sturgis (469), Southampton on Oct 31, 17 11:09 PM
Fans Bail on ‘Monday Night Football’ As Ratings for Chiefs-Broncos Crash

No matter who dresses up as what at the NFL offices in New York, it’s not likely that their Halloween costume will scare Commissioner Roger Goodell more, than the ratings for Monday Night Football.

According to Deadline Hollywood, “With a 7.2 in metered market results, last night’s MNF was down 9% from last week’s Philadelphia Eagles’ 34-24 triumph over the Washington ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Oct 31, 17 11:52 PM
The next brick in Special Prosecutor Mueller's foundation wall?

Andrew Weissman as an assistant to Mueller, and described as a "legal pit bull" in a NYT article this morning.

Keep breathing . . . this is going to get interesting . . .


By PBR (4885), Southampton on Nov 1, 17 4:46 AM
You used a lot of words to say nothing, while sounding like a condescending know-it-all. Not bad.
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Nov 1, 17 6:37 AM
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Everyone take note: 37 is a lot of words to Even Flow. How do you even get through a book, mate?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 17 6:43 AM
Only to be out done by 21 words...
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Nov 1, 17 7:51 AM
Need proof that democrats have nothing?

An unpaid, unknown volunteer is now a “Trump Aide”
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Nov 1, 17 6:35 AM
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Unpaid? You know who else was unpaid? Manafort, Bannon, and Kushner.

Unknown? In a March 2016 interview Trump said "George Papadopoulos, he’s an energy and oil consultant, excellent guy"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 17 6:42 AM
More excellent people are recognized in this blast from the past!

Let’s review hillary’s 2016 election te, shall we?

Hillary- married to a rapist
Bill Clinton- rapist
Huma- married child sexual predator
Wiener- in jail for repeat child sexual predator offenses
John Podesta- spirit dinner chef with kiddies in the pool
Harvey Weinstein- rapist
Hollywood- covering for rapists
NBC political division - rapist
MSM- covering for rapists.
Tim ...more
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Nov 1, 17 4:15 PM
I notice democrats are quick to credit obama for the great economy "he left for Trump". Not so when it comes to the terrorism carried out by the terrorists that obama left for Trump.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Nov 1, 17 8:01 AM
Trump moves to stop" IMMIGRATION DIVERSETY" Program, thank God!
By bigfresh (3964), north sea on Nov 1, 17 1:30 PM
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A Politico/Morning Consult poll released on Tuesday for the third quarter shows plunging approval ratings for most incumbent senators from both parties among all voters.Thanks to President Trump the common sense majority of our nation knows that the Uniparty and the Fake MSM is Enemy Number One!
They almost sold out our nation for their own personal greed and power!
Scum-of-the-earth politicians!!
Thank God we have a common sense non politician businessman for President.
Truth Prevails,
Trust ...more
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 1, 17 3:38 PM
Let’s fast forward to the completion of Mueller’s construction, and think about any of these defendants [including President Trump during an impeachment proceeding] being on the stand with “pit bull” Weismann cross examining about factual inaccuracies in prior statements and tweets, versus documented ACTUAL facts.

For each and every inaccuracy, the witness will be asked something like, “So your statement A is inconsistent with statement B?”

For ...more
By PBR (4885), Southampton on Nov 1, 17 7:06 PM
Please keep in mind the President reserves the right to fire Mueller at any time, so your little fantasy will never take place. Furthermore the President can blanket pardon anyone he sees fit at any time and end this charade!

We are letting the process go forward to dispel the fake allegations beyond a reasonable doubt... but will not entertain a CNN covered circus... sorry elections have consequences... now back too making America great again !
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Nov 1, 17 7:16 PM
Firing Mueller will instantly brand Trump guilty.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 1, 17 7:25 PM
I kind of want it to happen just to see everyone's heads explode.

Impeachment would be on the table the following morning.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 17 7:28 PM
in your opinion mr z, others see this as obstruction that has gone on way to long and produced nothing !
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Nov 1, 17 7:30 PM
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One conviction and two indictments isn't "nothing" unless you're blatantly obtuse.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 1, 17 7:33 PM
Over the weekend, the mainstream media was absolutely giddy with delight upon learning there would be an indictment by special counsel, Robert Mueller.

This was proof positive, they insisted, that Trump “colluded” with Russia to influence the 2016 presidential election. Their exuberance was the equivalent of a two day-long tailgate party. Too bad it was premature.

Manafort & Gates

The celebration came to a crashing end when the indictments of Paul Manafort ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Nov 1, 17 7:36 PM
Hillary Clinton

It is against the law for the Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee to funnel millions of dollars to a British spy and to Russian sources in order to obtain the infamous and discredited Trump “dossier.” The Federal Election Campaign Act (52 USC 30101) prohibits foreign nationals and governments from giving or receiving money in U.S. campaigns. It also prohibits the filing of false or misleading campaign reports to hide the true purpose of the ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1840), southampton on Nov 1, 17 7:37 PM
How about you supply the source of your cut and paste? And how about you do yourself a favor and get off the disinformation diet intended to distract from the actual scandal involving trump and those around him.
No time to comb through this crap right now, but just for starters,
a) no one paid Russians
b) the transactions were with Fusion GPS to supply legal opposition research
c) trump's Republican opponents were the first to pay for it
d) it was taken over by HRC when trump ...more
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 1, 17 8:57 PM
I think the more interesting part of his comment is the reference to the "discredited" Trump dossier, in light of how much is being corroborated as time goes by.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 17 11:13 PM
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Your interpretation is WAY off. Note the 30 or 60 day time restraint.


(i)The term “electioneering communication” means any broadcast, cable, or satellite communication which— (I)refers to a clearly identified candidate for Federal office; (II)is made within— (III)in the case of a communication which refers to a candidate for an office other than President or Vice President, is targeted to the relevant electorate.

(3) Electioneering communicationFor ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 2, 17 12:11 AM
Let's start here JuneZ...."trump's Republican opponents were the first to pay for it"

Depends on what your definition of "it" is. "It" was not to manufacture a fake Dossier.
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Nov 2, 17 10:14 AM
po boy of course "its" original purpose was not to manufacture a fake dossier. any broker of honest information could tell you that. it started out as legitimate opposition research, than after the republican primary's fusion gps shopped it around and thats when "it" became fake news and something much more sinister!
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Nov 2, 17 11:04 AM
The stupid is strong these days:

"Fusion GPS is an American commercial research and strategic intelligence firm based in Washington, D.C. The company conducts open-source investigations and provides research and strategic advice for businesses, law firms and investors, as well as for political inquiries, such as opposition research."
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 3, 17 1:41 AM
Yes it is Mr. Z. Stupid is incredibly strong. Nice recap of what Fusion GPS does but help me to understand what your point is. What does the above post have to do with who funded "opposition research" that was used to discredit a President/President Elect and influence an election? It was funded and driven by the Democrat National Committee and Hillary Clinton Campaign, to the tune of 12 million dollars and coordinated with Russian ties. Any Right leaning interest had ceased when Trump got the nomination. ...more
By Po Boy (3341), Water Mill on Nov 3, 17 7:49 AM
WOW ! Taken to the woodshed and quickly, very nice UD
Nov 1, 17 7:46 PM appended by joe hampton
Time for Tucker, Hannity and Ingraham, then Dobbs, Chrissy Mathews and Anduhsen on DVR for laughs... goodnight all
By joe hampton (3248), The Hamptons on Nov 1, 17 7:46 PM
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STFU!! CBC is a fairly reputable source. Fake news or not fake news?


Ukraine willing to 'provide the information we have' on Trump campaign aide, says Ukraine PM

Anti-corruption activists urge Ukrainian government to pursue former Trump campaign chair

By Murray Brewster, CBC News Posted: Nov 01, 2017 1:06 PM ET Last Updated: Nov 01, 2017 1:45 PM ET


The anti-corruption activists in Kyiv are urging the Ukrainian government to pursue charges against Manafort ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 2, 17 12:34 AM
Oops.

Hackers Compromised the Trump Organization 4 Years Ago—and the Company Never Noticed

The perpetrators have possible ties to Russia

David Corn and A.J. Vicens Nov. 1, 2017 9:01 PM


“With an organization of this size, and with the added security concerns and scrutiny that a presidential campaign and victory would entail, it would be inexcusable for this to not have been discovered by their IT department. Any basic security audit would show ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 2, 17 6:49 AM
Any chance the Rusky pinko commies hacked the official US voting system in the 2016 election?

To tip the election to Trump, they only had to create a few votes in a few important urban areas in the critical states.

THAT would shake things up, if Mueller discovers any leads in this direction!

Never say never . . .

By PBR (4885), Southampton on Nov 2, 17 7:06 AM
There you go. Get it all out. The level headed object act lasted 2 days.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Nov 2, 17 7:47 AM
What exacctly are ''possible ties to russia"?

oh and

Corn announced on the Rachel Maddow show on 9/12/2017 that he and Michael Isikoff were working on a new book about the Trump campaign and administration's ties with Russia and the Russian hacking during the 2016 Presidential campaign, as well as a history of Russian tactics.
By SlimeAlive (1033), Southampton on Nov 2, 17 8:02 AM
“This is espionage. This is assisting our sworn enemy. The jurors will hate you no matter what, but I promise you and your attorney that I will throw the prosecutorial book at you if you don’t cooperate. I will not accept any deal from your attorney after today, and when the time comes for your trial, I will beat you like a seal pup on a sheet of ice and watch you bleed.” Twelve seconds later, we had cooperating suspect.

~ Joe Navarro, former FBI Agent
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 2, 17 7:26 PM
Sam Clovis.

When he gets flipped, it will become even more interesting.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 3, 17 1:52 AM
i really can't wait to hear what the witness to everything about uranium one has to say.
By Erin 27 E (1137), hampton bays on Nov 2, 17 11:08 AM
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Oooh, you're gonna' be soooo unhappy.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 2, 17 1:59 PM
OOPSIE...


Sessions admits to lying under oath
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 2, 17 7:28 PM
Stop lying about lying.
By Mr. Snerdley (392), Southampton on Nov 3, 17 7:30 AM
CNN’s Jake Tapper, who is already dealing with humiliating ratings and a reputation implosion, decided to put on a public spectacle Wednesday over the criticism of his blatantly inappropriate and misleading comments surrounding the Islamic cry of “Allahu Akbar.”
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 2, 17 4:25 PM
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Only the "best people", LMMFAO...


On Wednesday, he named Robin Bernstein to be ambassador to the Dominican Republic. Bernstein speaks only “basic Spanish” (it’s so hard to find Americans who speak Spanish), but she does have this — membership at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club.

A group called American Oversight had the foresight to make records requests for résumés of those hired by the Trump administration, and the group searched for those ...more
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 3, 17 1:57 AM
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You pollute your brain with slanted media, come here, regurgitate it and act like you’ve got all the answers.

Now that you’ve discovered that a campaign volunteer didnt have a college degree, what do you propose we do? Did you want to make a point? If you were it is lost among all the rote, meaningless litany of fluff you parroted
By even flow (808), East Hampton on Nov 3, 17 6:00 AM
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I think he was saying that Trump doesn't pick the best people as he alleges, which wasn't a hard point to gather...for example, his new Fed Chair is the first one without an economics degree in 40 years...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 6:08 AM
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Powell was nominated as Fed Governor by OBAMA in 2012. Duh.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Nov 3, 17 11:43 AM
Do you understand the difference between the Fed Chairperson and a member of the Board of Governors?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 11:48 AM
Yes. 30+ years on Wall Street qualifies me, thank you very much.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Nov 3, 17 12:11 PM
So then why did you bring up that Obama appointed him to the board when I'm mentioned he's the first Chair in 40 years without an economics degree?
Nov 3, 17 12:27 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, "never" is a strong word, dontcha think? What if it was a depiction of Lady Liberty on a noose in response to perceived government overreach? Or Osama on a noose to represent the death of violent jihadism?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 12:27 PM
I was referring to the comment about Trump's choices, and pointing out that Powell was an Obama choice for the Fed, without an economics degree. BTW, maybe we could use someone from the real world to run the Fed....academics haven't done a very good job for decades. Other than digging us out of terrible bubbles and crashes they could/should have avoided.
By Taz (519), East Quogue on Nov 3, 17 12:34 PM
Obama picked up him for the Board, not the Chair. As long as those are different things, it means something doesn't it?

In your view as a 30 year wall st vet, was the repeal of Glass-Steagall a contributing factor of the 2008 financial crisis?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 12:42 PM
I'd be surprised if he answers that.

The blackballing of Brooksley Born would be an interesting commentary as well.
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 5, 17 5:20 PM
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Democrats have admitted that they committed voter fraud on their own constituents

That’s the second instance of liberals serially raping their own voters while other democrats cover it up

By even flow (808), East Hampton on Nov 3, 17 5:15 AM
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Lets see Mr Z squirm to not answer this question: What do you have to say about Snoop Dogs latest disgusting display with his “Make America Crip Again” album cover on Instagram, which portrayed the dead body of President Donald Trump.

The since-deleted picture, which lives on in screenshots, depicted Snoop Dogg wearing a blue hat looking over a lifeless body draped in an American flag with a toe tag reading “TRUMP.”

Disgusting wouldn't you agree Mr Z ? ...more
By 27dan (2552), Shinnecock Hills on Nov 3, 17 11:10 AM
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Who is Snoop Dog and why do we care? I didn't vote for him.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 11:12 AM
But you would agree if you knew who he was that he would be a sick person, correct ? Or are you taking a pass on answering Dans question by deflection ?
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Nov 3, 17 11:28 AM
I'm not going to go out buy his album, if that's what you're asking, but I'm not going to go out and burn his picture in protest either.

Before you feel the need to ask: I do not support the artistic portrayal of living presidents as cadavers.

I didn't condone it when it was Obama on a noose, and I don't support it when it's Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 11:44 AM
Its like pulling teeth with you people, here's a news flash for you. I would NEVER condone Obama or anyone else on a noose for artistic portrayal.

So thank you for going on the record. Sorry it was such an inconvenience. This b_*tard should be investigated like Kathy Griffin, glad you agree.
By Ditch Bum (663), Water Mill on Nov 3, 17 12:15 PM
I don't think we agree on the need for an investigation, but if you think the secret service needs to get to the bottom of whether this is a "real threat," more power to you.
Nov 3, 17 12:26 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also, "never" is a strong word, dontcha think? What if it was a depiction of Lady Liberty on a noose in response to perceived government overreach? Or Osama on a noose to represent the death of violent jihadism?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (5072), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 3, 17 12:26 PM
Not a fan.

Mueller Has Enough Evidence to Bring Charges in Flynn Investigation
By Mr. Z (10776), North Sea on Nov 5, 17 5:11 PM
@27 dan and even flow: Faux News has taken down its Tweet re: its demonstrably false portrayal of Jake Tapper's comment re: "Allahu Akhbar". Best to check things out before you hyperventilate.
By June Bug (2270), SOUTHAMPTON on Nov 3, 17 12:43 PM
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