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Aug 11, 2015 2:56 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Zeldin On Trip To Israel With House Majoity Leader, Members Of Congress

Aug 11, 2015 2:56 PM

U.S. Representative Lee Zeldin traveled to Israel, along with House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy and other members of Congress, last Saturday, August 8, for a trip set to last one week, according to a press release.

Mr. Zeldin serves as a member of the House Foreign Affairs Committee, the Middle East and North Africa Subcommittee, and the Terrorism, Nonproliferation and Trade Subcommittee. He also co-chairs the House Republican Israel Caucus.

“Joining with my colleagues in Congress on a trip to Israel will help strengthen the alliance between our two nations,” Mr. Zeldin said.

The trip, which is hosted by the American Israel Education Foundation, will include a meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Reuven Rivlin. “I look forward to meeting with the Israeli prime minister and president to continue a relationship between our two nations,” Mr. Zeldin said.

Since he took office in January, Mr. Zeldin has been an advocate against a nuclear deal with Iran that he says would worsen instability in the Middle East and trigger a nuclear arms race in the region.

“With the president’s recent announcement of a deal with Iran, this trip to Israel comes at a very critical time,” he noted.

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Perhaps we could annex Tel Aviv to the 1st Congressional District to make it easier for Lee. He wouldn't have such a long commute.
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 11, 15 8:40 PM
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I'm sure you'd prefer a trip to Iran. Perhaps Zeldin too can get on hands and knees and beg Khamenei to accept a deal that benefits Iran, and offers little else.
Good for Zeldin. Perhaps when Barry is out of office we'll start treating allies like allies.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 11, 15 9:02 PM
... and enemies like enemies.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 11, 15 9:27 PM
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to double standard:

That would be bad. As bad as if he had invited the Ayatollah Khamenei to speak in congress without the approval of our president or of the state department - - - as bad as if he accused our president of secretly funding anti-government parties in Iran on the baseless word of a Republican flack in the pay of an Iranian political party - - - as bad as if he undermined the authority or our president using state secrets acquired by the Iranian spy agency.

Thank ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 11, 15 9:32 PM
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Yes, inviting enemies such as Ayatollah Khamenei to speak in congress would be bad. Which may be valuable insight as to why Democrats oppose the Netanyahu invite so vehemently.

Not as bad however as requesting an INVESTIGATION into a report of potential foreign election influencing with tax payer funds with links to the Obama administration. Certainly the Obama administration or its operatives would NEVER wage war against its enemies by such means as through the IRS, especially when ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 11, 15 10:32 PM
Hat, do you support Iran's efforts of killing Americans by proxy? If the answer is no, then why would you agree to fund it. Once again Obama puppets accept a result based on the perception of it being better than status quo. That's not demanding a best solution, but rather, playing the part of the enabler. Obama's presidency has been based on the acceptance of different being better. How about we strive for real solutions? That would be nice.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 11, 15 11:22 PM
to double standard:

I agree with Ami Ayalon, (former head of Shin Bet, the Israeli internal security service) and Efraim Halevy (former chief of the Mossad) that the Iran nuclear agreement is a good deal. Will it curtail Iranian sponsorship of the ISIL terrorists? No, but then nothing will short of the invasion that the Right-Wing advocates. Should their idiocy prevail, the Iraqi debacle will be remembered as a cakewalk by comparison.

to Mr. Snerdley:

Better that an ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 12, 15 7:34 AM
to high hat:
HILLARY 'TOP SECRET' EMAILS FOUND
FBI SEIZES DRIVES
DOJ TAKES POSSESSION

lol

By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 12, 15 9:06 AM
“'It is one thing for the U.S. and Israel to spy on each other. It is another thing for Israel to steal U.S. secrets and play them back to U.S. legislators to undermine U.S. diplomacy,' said a senior U.S. official briefed on the matter."

Well Hat, I'd be most interested in the part of your source that notes alleged culpability on the part of the distinguished Mr. Zeldin. That said, as one comment poster on your source notes: "So basically, the Israelis told the Congress what the ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 12, 15 9:27 AM
to Mr. Snerdley:

My, my, Mr. Snerdley. In your penultimate post you advocate an "investigation" into reports that the president tried to influence the Israeli election ["ping!"], followed by your objection, in the post immediately following it, to an investigation of the "distinguished"(?) Lee Zeldin to see if he violated secrecy laws.["pong!"] (You know, like you want Hillary investigated.["ping!"])

Thanks for the stellar example of situational Republican ethics.

Receiving ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 12, 15 12:29 PM
Pure hoo-ha hat. Proof, particulars, smoking guns, destroyed or sterilized emails or servers, etc, of any kind that would support those ridiculous allegations against Zeldin, would be most certainly welcomed.

"he (Lee Zeldin) accused our president of secretly funding anti-government parties in Iran" and "the distinguished Lee then used this information to subvert his own government." Nonsense. Less venom, emotion and vitriol, and spin of comments... more substantiated facts and accuracy ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 12, 15 2:24 PM
So you disagree with the radical right winger, Alan Dershowitz?
The likely reply, "Well he's a Jew and obviously biased."
My rebuttal, "Did you judge Obama or Holder using the same criteria regarding Michael Brown and Treyvon Martin?"
Obama was so desperate for a deal that he took away his own leverage. And the blind supporters say, "Well it's better than invasion." Who was set to invade? Who??? The only choices are a bad deal or an American invasion? That's absolute nonsense. Using ...more
Aug 12, 15 4:49 PM appended by double standard
In response to High Hat
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 12, 15 4:49 PM
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to Mr. Snerdley:

To reiterate, your ideological prejudice has dictated an opposite response to two similar circumstances. Whereas you think it eminently reasonable to launch an "INVESTIGATION" (as you emphasize, supra) of President Obama's supposed meddling in the Israeli election, you dismiss the idea of a similar INVESTIGATION of Lee Zeldin's receipt of state secrets stolen by Israeli spys.

to double standard:

The president was only stating the obvious when he said, ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 13, 15 8:29 AM
As much as you try to make this about what I think hat, it's not. It's about what YOU wrote. The hoo-ha claims remain inaccurate and void of any facts and are a symptom of hatred for our long term ally Israel and anyone who supports Israel.

BTW, some reports indicate lobbying efforts by Israel have generally been directed at Democrats because Israel already assumes the support of most Republicans; not to mention the information in question not gathered by spying directly on United ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 13, 15 8:55 AM
Perhaps Schumer decided to vote against the deal because he read the tea leaves and he knows congress won't be able to override a veto in the event one is necessary. By voting NO he can appease his psychopathic Zionist supporters and still have the outcome many Israeli citizens, military and political leaders want, which is for the deal to go thru.
By bird (785), Sag Harbor on Aug 13, 15 10:18 AM
to Mr. Snerdley:

Au contraire, and for the THIRD time, Mr. Snerdley, you demand proof of Lee Zeldin's culpability WITHOUT an investigation, but DEMAND investigations of both President Obama and Hillary Clinton in the complete absence of proof.

Just another example of the cognitive dissonance that defines Right-Wing true believers.

Incidentally, not a single legislator has CHALLENGED the WSJ report that Israeli spys handed over classified information to congressmen.

Like ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 13, 15 11:17 AM
Hat - why do you, or Obama, assume that it's only our deal to make or war to fight. We could have let the sanctions remain. That's a better solution than making a bad deal. We had leverage and gave it away. The end result being an ocean of money that will no doubt fund terrorism, and the eventually mushroom cloud from the first Iranian nuke test. Tell me then how well your blind support of party and ideology worked out.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 13, 15 12:01 PM
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DS - Where did you get the idea it was only our deal? There were six countries involved all of whom are approving the deal with the exception of the US which appears to be acting as a puppet of the extreme right of Israel. And your right. We can keep our sanctions and the rest of the world can drop theirs. Then the money will flow to Tehran and Iran's nuclear program. Personally I don't care if Iran has nuclear weapons. What I do care about is that when Iran gets that bomb or is close to getting ...more
By bird (785), Sag Harbor on Aug 13, 15 2:10 PM
Au contraire redoux hat. You've posted absolutely nothing to factually support any of the ridiculous allegations and contrary to the hoo-ha claims, there is certainly no indication whatsoever of personal wrong doing or so called subversive "involvement" by Congressman Zeldin. NONE! It really is that simple.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 13, 15 3:03 PM
Bird, you would have to follow the argument between Hat and I for context, and I don't expect you to do that. The point was, it wouldn't be our war to fight any more than it would be our deal to make. A war would be bad. A bad deal us still bad. I don't buy the argument that it is this deal or war. I think that's nonsense.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 13, 15 8:45 PM
to Mr. Snerdley:

Contrary to your assertion, there is prima facie evidence that Lee Zeldin was instrumental in an illegal effort by the Israeli Right-Wing to manipulate congress.

No one, in government or out, has attempted to refute the WSJ allegation that secrets stolen by Israeli spies were passed on to sympathetic federal legislators. It is a reasonable assumption that Lee, as the point man in the House for Right-Wing Israeli schemes (evidenced by his teaming with Ted Cruz in ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 14, 15 3:08 AM
Put some light on what? What wrong doing or damage has been done - other than the White House getting miffed? Not that I think it matters because of the first two previous questions, why not enlighten us or post the so called "prima facie" evidence hat? I'll tell you why, it's because that's these sort of trumped charges are what partisan ideologue zealots hang their respective hats on when there is no evidence. The definition of "Prima facie" is "based on the first impression; accepted as correct ...more
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 14, 15 9:15 AM
The basics:

The Iran Nuclear Deal – A Simple Guide



By WILLIAM J. BROAD and SERGIO PEÇANHA UPDATED July 14, 2015

Negotiators reached a historic accord on Tuesday to limit Tehran’s nuclear ability in return for lifting international oil and financial sanctions. Here is a guide to the Iran nuclear deal.

An atomic bomb can be made from two types of radioactive materials: uranium or plutonium. The talks were aimed at curbing Iran’s ...more
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 11, 15 9:23 PM
Poll: Sanders Catches Clinton in New Hampshire, Now Leads by 7
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 12, 15 9:12 AM
She's so incredibly beatable. Unfo, I suspect the Repub base will nominate the wrong person and we'll have Hillary as the next POTUS.
IMO, Rubio/Kasich would be a smart strategic play. Not perfect, but better than Hillary/Whoever.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 12, 15 4:32 PM
Does Hillary have more in common with Camille Cosby or Richard Nixon?
By joe hampton (3353), southampton on Aug 12, 15 11:22 PM
She dresses more like Nixon
By CaptainSig (709), Dutch Harbor on Aug 13, 15 8:06 AM
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Carson/Fiorina well qualified candidates covers all bases
By bigfresh (4384), north sea on Aug 12, 15 5:56 PM
Watch out folks, it might be Sanders vs Trump. Now that would make for an interesting election season.

Meanwhile in the undercard we have ATH vs Zeldin -or- the congressperson to the developers vs the congressman to Tel Aviv.
By bird (785), Sag Harbor on Aug 12, 15 9:10 PM
our country would be the laughing stock of the world. A self described socialist versus a blowhard.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 13, 15 6:34 AM
Do you have a user name for each voice in your head Phil?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Aug 13, 15 6:57 AM
Truth be told, most of northern Europe would probably think this country finally wised up if it elected Sanders.

Only a complete ignoramus or total idiot would think a Democratic Socialist means communism.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 13, 15 7:18 AM
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Marlinspike - You are defining communism, not socialism.
By bird (785), Sag Harbor on Aug 13, 15 10:26 AM
DUhhhha
By They call me (2696), southampton on Aug 13, 15 3:52 PM
looks like he was fired he was wiped away again,

listen you can hear the birds returning to the neighborhood
By Erin 27 E (1211), hampton bays on Aug 13, 15 7:29 PM
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I rest my case...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 13, 15 7:56 PM
I don't hate capitalism. I hate the unfettered, unrestrained, beyond poorly regulated disaster American capitalism is. A main founding principle of this country was vesting the power with the People, not the few and alleged elite. Freedom is one thing, anarchy is another.

Maybe if you actually knew the history that was made, instead of the history which was made up you wouldn't post such idiocy.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 14, 15 1:39 PM
Bull
By joe hampton (3353), southampton on Aug 14, 15 6:43 PM
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^^^^^ Now I REALLY rest my case...
Aug 14, 15 9:34 PM appended by Mr. Z
In other news OxyContin approved for use by children ages 11 to 17. Cannabis still stigmatized and illegal...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 14, 15 9:34 PM
And BTW, the "capitalism" you defend is actually Oligarchy.

The lot of you just ain't smart enough to know it.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 14, 15 10:03 PM
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Your perfect socialist utopia can only exist in a jail or in the grave.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 15, 15 8:44 AM
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Z you should you tube Milton Friedman versus free lunch advocate........powerful and spot on.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 15, 15 9:36 AM
When was that recorded? The day Nixon did away with the gold standard?

Outdated, useless drivel.
Aug 15, 15 10:53 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, the only "free lunch" in the last forty years has been for the plutocrats and the upper 10% of this nation's population. A pack of fools, the lot of you.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 15, 15 10:53 PM
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Try Lenny Bruce live at Carnegie Hall.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 15, 15 11:00 PM
Milton Friedman the noted economist who died in 2006 was outdated and spoke useless drivel but Lenny Bruce the comedian who died at age 40 in 1966 was an expert who was up with the times and knew what he was talking about. HOGWASH!
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 16, 15 7:07 AM
Perhaps you'd prefer "The Law, Language, and Lenny Bruce"?

Eat, sleep, and crap...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 16, 15 8:14 AM
Why would I listen to a drug fueled comedian? Didn't Lenny Bruce die of a drug overdose? I have a real tough time taking the rants of a drug addicted comedian over an accredited economist. FYI Lenny Bruce also died about 40 years before Friedman.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 16, 15 8:40 AM
I'll guess you have no love for Robin Williams, Bill Hicks, or Richard Pryor for that matter?

The trick to a good routine is telling the truth with solid delivery. The former being something most politicians don't do. That's why they're often the joke.

Friedman's theories on monetary policy caused the recent "Great Recession". They closely match Randian philosophy, and led us down the road to catastrophe. The "laissez-faire" approach to capitalism has always self destructed. ...more
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 16, 15 9:23 PM
I never said I didn't think that those people weren't funny but it's pretty hard to take anything they say as being serious. That's why they are called COMEDIANS! After all those comedians probably wrote those jokes while doing an 8 ball.
Friedman I'm sure would disagree with your 2nd statement. You should read about his thoughts on monopolies and Gvt intervention. His theories preach the opposite of what you say.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 17, 15 1:37 PM
The guy described himself as a libertarian. Deregulation not only led to the S&L "crisis", it led to the "Great Recession". His "monetary policy" is the reason we have nearly 12 trillion dollars in M2 currency, but is a direct contributor to the rising cost of everything. Libertarians and their theory screwed the pooch when it comes to this country's economy. And I quote:

"I found a flaw"

~ Alan Greenspan
Aug 17, 15 10:23 PM appended by Mr. Z
BTW, one really big thing Friedman screwed up was that he was too focused on the amount of currency in an economy, instead of the velocity of currency in an economy. You can have 12 trillion dollars worth of currency in an economy. If it doesn't change hands, it ain't worth s***.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 17, 15 10:23 PM
Update: US currency surpasses 12 trillion dollar mark

Took some time to review Fed data. For the roughly thirty year period between about 1960 to 1990, M2 increased by about 3 trillion dollars. In the past twenty five years, M2 has increased by almost 9 TRILLION dollars, and velocity is in the toilet compared to it's high of 2.2 in 1997, and still in the crapper compared to the average of about 1.75 prior to 1992. M2 velocity just dropped below 1.5 during the second quarter and shows ...more
Aug 18, 15 12:08 AM appended by Mr. Z
Almost forgot. The previous historic all time low was 1.65 during the fourth quarter of 1964. The Greenspan era may have seen some historic highs, but all the money printing, artificially low interest rates, and economic voodoo proved to result in only one thing: an epic fail and all time economic lows which were spurred by artificial highs which existed only on paper, not in actual concrete reality...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 12:08 AM
Z you are ranting. There is a reason why gold is no longer the standard and Almost all countries use some form of fiat based economy. In addition every country has booms and busts.
I never heard Friedman being focused on the amount of currency in the economy but rather productivity of each citizen. I don't agree with everything he says but found his discussions on socialism, welfare, monopolies and the free market very interesting. If you don't want to read his work you can you tube several ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 18, 15 7:29 AM
Where did the gold standard come into the discussion? It's irrelevant to the discussion because of it's inherent economic limitations. That post is not a rant, it's all factual, researchable information. The fiat system also has it's limitations when poorly managed. The Weimar Republic in post WWI Germany comes to mind, as well as the multitude of fiat currency failures over the last century, and most all have failed since the Denarius.

Do you know what else Friedman said? That if ...more
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 8:15 AM
rant- to write or speak in an emotionally charged manner. You offer no solutions you just rant.

Again I never stated I agreed with everything Friedman said. Friedman also favored doing away with the minimum wage (he felt it was an anti negro law) and limiting most welfare programs. He believed that these programs were making people slaves to Gvt and limiting there upward mobility in society. Although its not perfect Free market capitalism offers individuals the best opportunity for upward ...more
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 18, 15 9:53 AM
The solution is the elimination and discontinuation of Friedman based policy. Such policy has 40 years worth of opportunity to behind it to prove that it works. History proves on three separate occasion that such policy is reckless and disasterous as it resulted in three major economic catastrophes, the most recent in 2008. The steady increase in m2, (also Friedman policy) which has now surpassed 12 trillion dollars in fiat currency is not healthy. The elimination of libertarian economics would ...more
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 3:16 PM
so there we have it. Throw out 40 years of innovation and progress for what? The free market system offers the best opportunity for individuals upward social economic status. Name another.
Friedman takes it a step further by arguing that many social safety nets make individuals dependent upon government assistance and inhibit their upward socio economic mobility. I believe we do need safety nets but there is some truth to his statement if abused
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 19, 15 6:42 AM
"Innovation and progress"?

At what? Proving that the same economic policies which led to the Great Depression are a failure regardless of time and place?
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 19, 15 8:03 AM
Do I need to list them all? In the last 40 years? The list of innovations and progress goes on and on (science, technology, medicine ect) The so called failed Friedman based system you speak of has made the US the leading country in innovation and progress for the last 40 years.
Seriously if you hate this country so much why don't you move.

By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 19, 15 9:24 AM
That is the most laughable statement I have read in a very long time.

We have been leading industry and innovation for over a century, and giving Friedman any credit for it is absolutely ridiculous.. People research and innovate because it is a human need to do so. Some of us like myself have an innate need and ability to problem solve and we find creating solutions very attractive and rewarding. Jonas Salk for one example didn't do what he did for money, he did it because it was right ...more
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 19, 15 7:35 PM
You are talking in circles and I am not giving Friedman credit (read your August 18th post at 3:16PM).
The Bottom line is the free market system has produced more innovation and progress than any other economc model. The free market system offers individuals the greatest chance of upward socio economic mobility. Its not perfect but its the most efficient model.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Aug 20, 15 9:46 AM
CRUZ ! WALKER
By Undocumented Democrat (1939), southampton on Aug 12, 15 11:10 PM
revolution is brewing my friend

have you read "Revolution" by Russell Brand?
excellent book
By llimretaw (118), watermill on Aug 13, 15 9:59 AM
Speaking of "Revolution"

Fidel Castro to US: you owe us millions

Havana (AFP) - Fidel Castro marked his 89th birthday Thursday by insisting the United States owes Cuba "many millions of dollars" because of the half-century-old American trade embargo.
Aug 13, 15 11:23 AM appended by joe hampton
No Fidel, YOU owe your people millions. Because when you took what was a friendly and neighboring country, and allowed the Russians to set up nuclear weapons aimed at the United States, you pretty well showed what your loyalties were. Then when you spread that ideology to other countries in your region that confirmed it. If you had remained a friend of America and not followed the path of communism, your country would be one of the wealthiest and happiest country's in the world. It was your decision and you are too blame.
By joe hampton (3353), southampton on Aug 13, 15 11:23 AM
Mr.Z, HHS, Mets Fan and Phil defend comunist Cuba in 3-2-1 ....
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 13, 15 11:26 AM
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I am not a communist, I do support social programs for the poor, hungry, homeless and handicapped based on my christian upbringing.
By Mets fan (1436), Southampton on Aug 14, 15 7:18 PM
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since the beginning of presidential elections in this country, the party with the most money or (contributions) has won every single time!
every single time!
i am not voting again until this changes.

Don't waste your time voting

your vote can not fight the money that rules America
By llimretaw (118), watermill on Aug 13, 15 9:58 AM
Russell Brand is an ass
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 13, 15 11:26 AM
When you put Russell Brand in a room full of politicians and newscasters, it quickly becomes clear that he is the most eloquent and intelligent person in the room. And that my friends is scary.
By bird (785), Sag Harbor on Aug 13, 15 3:04 PM
Hillary finally hands over her server -- after it's been professionally wiped clean!
By They call me (2696), southampton on Aug 13, 15 7:34 PM
Darik's Boot and Nuke is free.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 13, 15 8:02 PM
For the love of God can we please blow up the two party system and just go with a parliament? The people we get to choose from is always a matter of which will do the least damage.
By double standard (1506), Remsenburg on Aug 13, 15 8:51 PM
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It might have been free but still came at a mighty high price for Mrs Clinton ...
Aug 13, 15 8:59 PM appended by joe hampton
The majority of Americans support a ‘criminal investigation’ of Hillary emails...how does Hat Head and the rest of the country see nothing wrong with her actions ? ? ?
By joe hampton (3353), southampton on Aug 13, 15 8:59 PM
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They were blinded by the light radiating from Obama and have never recovered! Gotta vote Democrat no matter what. Probably even vote for Bernie if he were the candidate!
By bigfresh (4384), north sea on Aug 14, 15 4:03 PM
DEM TICKING TIME BOMB
O'MALLEY, SANDERS TO DEBATE WITHOUT?
By joe hampton (3353), southampton on Aug 14, 15 6:46 PM
to Mr. Snerdley:

Noted is your opinion that Lee's disloyalty was harmless. Thankfully, you and Lee don't make the rules. Facilitating the dissemination of stolen state secrets is a criminal, and potentially treasonous, offense. That, specifically, is the actus reus (the “hoo-ha”, to use your terminology) to which I refer. One wonders what other “harmless” transgressions Lee might see fit to commit in the future in the service of the Israeli Right-Wing.

The ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 15, 15 4:10 AM
Where's the kosher beef in the repeated unsubstantiated allegations? You can wonder all day long and until the hoo-ha cows come home hat. Happy grazing.
Aug 15, 15 11:10 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
I'll add to the wonder reference the terms invent and fabricate... If you would apply only a schtickle of the same scrutiny Hillary where actual prima facie evidence exists...
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 15, 15 11:10 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Aug 15, 15 9:40 AM
LATimes - Op-Ed Why is the Iran deal bad? Think North Korea.

Is Iran more like North Korea or Libya? That is the question politicians and the public must ask themselves as they consider President Obama's nuclear deal.

Libya is the shining success story of negotiated disarmament — one of the very few. On Dec. 19, 2003, following nine months of secret talks with the United States and Britain, Moammar Kadafi agreed to give up his entire arsenal of weapons of mass destruction. ...more
Aug 15, 15 11:25 PM appended by Mr. Snerdley
Biba, apologies for the long cut and paste of the link, but the link will likely be deleted.
By Mr. Snerdley (397), Southampton on Aug 15, 15 11:25 PM
Enforcement for white-collar crime hits 20-year low


The donor class doesn’t want to be policed by Congress


August 14, 2015 2:00AM ET

by David Cay Johnston

Congress is starving federal white-collar law enforcement — a subtle and lucrative favor to the crooks and connivers among the political donor class. The move is costing honest people everywhere, damaging economic growth and perverting government.

This year the number of federal ...more
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 15, 15 11:38 PM
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I think you may have wanted to post this elsewhere.... just a little off topic.
Aug 16, 15 12:08 AM appended by Po Boy
But I will say, if crimes aren't being prosecuted, they either aren't being committed or they are not a priority of those that direct the investigations.
By Po Boy (4282), Water Mill on Aug 16, 15 12:08 AM
Nope. It's pay to play Oligarchy.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 16, 15 12:35 AM
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Confirmed... should have been posted elsewhere.
By Po Boy (4282), Water Mill on Aug 16, 15 12:45 AM
It's perfectly relevant.

The discussion has led into electoral politics. The methodology of electoral politics is cited in the above op-ed.

You guys really ain't that bright, are you?
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 16, 15 8:19 AM
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Another I'm smarter than you post.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Aug 18, 15 6:41 AM
I'm not seeing the topic evolution as claimed Mr. Z. What I do see is a rogue Hillary/Sanders reference or two, a singular Cruz-Walker post, and one Nixon... and oh yes, this too - "OxyContin approved for use by children ages 11 to 17. Cannabis still stigmatized and illegal..."

Six degrees of separation from the topic at hand would be an understatement. Please step carefully down from the soap box... and watch out for the soap when you do.
By Po Boy (4282), Water Mill on Aug 18, 15 11:09 AM
Stop crying about the conversation, and live a little. A bit off the rails seems to have been the status quo for years.

Providence forbid one should be well informed...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 9:51 PM
Providence forbid you should well inform... It's opinion. That's FAR from informing...
Aug 19, 15 9:26 PM appended by Po Boy
Being a displaced and seemingly lost post just makes it all the more perplexing.
By Po Boy (4282), Water Mill on Aug 19, 15 9:26 PM
Any where and everywhere , as long as he gets to speak poorly of capitalism and the wealthy.
By bigfresh (4384), north sea on Aug 16, 15 6:29 AM
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Same old simpleton style defense of the Oligarchy you're too blind to see because you lack a crucial and critical leadership and life skill.

The ability to objectify others.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 16, 15 8:21 AM
The deleted post about bacteria levels in his moniker's pond is proof enough, and the subject in question is a self styled conservative. And, there are a multitude of other exemplary posts...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 17, 15 10:41 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Aug 16, 15 6:04 PM
to Biba:

Do you never learn? The Press does not allow "links". Very shortly, it will annihilate your latest lazy post. Try again, this time listing it by title, author, publication, and date. Or not.
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 16, 15 7:45 PM
CLASSIFIED EMAILS GROW TO 60...
PROCESSING IRREGULARITIES...
WOODWARD: 'Reminds me of Nixon tapes'...
Aug 17, 15 8:17 AM appended by 27dan
TRUMP TOWERS !
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 17, 15 8:17 AM
Bloomberg Politics Managing Editor Mark Halperin stated that Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump has “reached a turning point” where the “establishment candidates” think he can win Iowa, “most” believe he can win the nomination, and “a significant number think he could win the White House” on Monday’s broadcast of MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.”
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 17, 15 7:01 PM
I love the frustration you can clearly see in so many people here that don't won't to acknowledge what Trump has done. They simply can't deal with how successful he is right now. highhatsize is waiting for it to subside, but deep down he is fearful it wont.
Aug 17, 15 8:45 AM appended by Undocumented Democrat
He also is seeing that the coronation ain't working .HHS knew she was corrupt, but I think many are surprised just how much trouble she is in.We are talking about national security ,besides all the side deals she worked out with foreign countries .Hilary, infact her entire family are so deep in the ditch ,she will never climb out .And her excuse it is political .... not this time Hilary, It was you and your minions created this heap of S**t . Game Over!
By Undocumented Democrat (1939), southampton on Aug 17, 15 8:45 AM
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You know what Trump running for president reminded me of?

Lex Luthor running for President in the DC comics storyline...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 17, 15 10:45 PM
Didn't DC turn Lex Luthor to a gay character ?

They changed so many to portray homosexuals I lost track
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 18, 15 12:49 AM
Do you feel it's excessive, or are you a homophobe?

For reference, from large mammals, to birds, to insects, fish, reptiles, amphibians, and various invertebrates, hundreds if not thousands of species on this planet engage in such sexual behavior.
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 8:19 AM
The cognitive rift between humans and other animals is exemplified by one's ability to reason.
This ability also allows one to choose to ignore reason.
By loading... (558), quiogue on Aug 18, 15 3:11 PM
The belief that humans possess superior cognitive abilities is a fallacy. We are animals, and the thought that we are not only serves to feed a comforting falsehood to the human ego. Species across the board possess the ability to feel, think, and reason. There are animal species who possess abilities superior to humans, especially when it comes to the olfactory system. Other species have language, birds for example. It has been proven that crows have the ability to identify individuals. They ...more
Aug 18, 15 9:48 PM appended by Mr. Z
P.S. Happy belated "Overshoot Day"
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 9:48 PM
Excessive is an understatement! Its heresy! Make as many gay hero's as you like just stop messing around with established characters.

I could care less who Phil sleeps with just don't try and tell us he was a nice guy or a conservative all along.
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 19, 15 11:28 AM
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Seems as if political corruption and illegal wrongdoings are a badge of honor for a Democrat candidate.
By bigfresh (4384), north sea on Aug 17, 15 11:11 AM
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Seriously?

Is that why the executive administration with the most indictments, scandals, astrologers, and felony convictions in American history happens to be Republican?

Delusions of grandeur seem to be a hefty Republican qualification...
By Mr. Z (11376), North Sea on Aug 18, 15 12:24 AM
You left out "pardons to administration members".
By bird (785), Sag Harbor on Aug 20, 15 7:20 PM
It is good to be a Democrat.
By Po Boy (4282), Water Mill on Aug 21, 15 7:28 AM
to Undocumented Democrat:

Quote:

"I love the frustration you can clearly see in so many people here that don't won't to acknowledge what Trump has done. They simply can't deal with how successful he is right now. highhatsize is waiting for it to subside, but deep down he is fearful it wont."
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You could not be more wrong. I rejoice in The Donald's success. I hope that his popularity among Republicans continues ...more
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 17, 15 12:01 PM
As usual this is all about people that hate Jews
Bottom line
Doesn't the very first comment say it all ...??????
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Aug 17, 15 1:14 PM
It is very amusing to watch as some people pretend Black is White and White is Black...

Very good at pretending ones skin is thick despite the Vexing nature of current events and the toll they are taking on your Cabal. Amusing indeed.
Aug 17, 15 6:52 PM appended by joe hampton
What say you Hat Head ?
By joe hampton (3353), southampton on Aug 17, 15 6:52 PM
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to joe hampton:

I'm not sure what you are talking about. This article is about Lee Zeldin's trip to Israel. Limited as I am to two posts a day, I have been responding on topic.

You and your Right-Wing colleagues, on the other hand, have chosen once again to inject irrelevant rants about Hillary Clinton and her emails. Since there isn't anything new on that front (but for a claim from a Right-Wing publication that more emails "have been flagged for potential secret information", ...more
Aug 18, 15 11:29 AM appended by highhatsize
Parenthetically, what does "Majoit" have to do with this story. Reference the following: "Majoit's profile: Your name is Majoit. You are quite tall and somewhat skinny. The straight blond hair improves your looks. Your skin is flawless. Your eyes are green with breath-taking translucent reflections. Eyebrows seem to be curved. Lips are symmetrical and very soft. You like to cook, discover secrets, have much free time and surprise people but hate to talk, listen and help others. Your fellows praise you. You are a very happy person. Loyalty is your born talent." Even the most undiscriminating poster must agree that THIS in no way describes Lee. (Especially the "loyalty" part.)
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 18, 15 11:29 AM
Blah blah blah ..........
Bottom line is this
People STILL hate Jews
Blame the Jews for everything
Would sooner trust Iran
We have big problems
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Aug 17, 15 10:22 PM
NEW COUNT: CLASSIFIED EMAILS GROW TO 305...

What Benghazi Emails ?

What Foreign Donor Emails?

"What Difference Does It Make ?"
By 27dan (2711), Shinnecock Hills on Aug 18, 15 12:44 AM
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How dare a US Congressman visit Israel and advocate for the defense of this independent country against the enemies of ISRAELI ZIONISM.

Next thing you know Irish members of the US Congress will be advocating the independence of Ireland from Great Britain and defending the rights of so-called IRA prisoners of the colonial British empire...oh, wait a minute...that already happened. Never mind.
By davidf (325), hampton bays on Aug 19, 15 10:27 AM
to davidf:

An appropriate analogy. The Irish, like the Palestinians, have lived in their land from time immemorial. Like Palestine, Ireland was invaded by a foreign power that subjugated and exploited the native inhabitants. Unlike the Palestinians, however, the Irish were finally able to throw off the yoke of servitude (mostly) after the invading power agreed to decolonization.

An apt lesson for Israel.
By highhatsize (4038), East Quogue on Aug 23, 15 8:42 AM
People ...
For the truth about "Palestine "
Please go to google
Look up Larry Millers thoughts on Palestine
Thank you
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Aug 23, 15 8:22 PM
Another great article :
Go to aish.com
Check out Israel's right to the land .
Thank you
By Biba (541), East Hampton on Aug 23, 15 8:28 PM
8k run & 3 mile walk, Agawam Park, Southampton Rotary Club fundraiser