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Jun 12, 2013 9:33 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Bishop: Nation Missed Opportunity For Tighter Gun Regulations

Jun 12, 2013 10:55 AM
At a brief presentation to members of the Southampton Chamber of Commerce last week, U.S. Representative Tim Bishop expressed his concern that the country had missed an opportunity to enact reasonable gun control measures.

During the five-minute speech at the Lobster Grille Inn on Friday, which also covered topics like immigration and the budget, Mr. Bishop said the country needs to have stricter background checks in place to buy a gun. Following the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School last year, Mr. Bishop said, the Senate should have passed proposed regulations but failed to get the required 60 votes.

If it had passed, the gun regulations would have created a system of more intense background checks aimed at detecting buyers who are ineligible to own guns, including convicted criminals, illegal immigrants and the mentally unstable. The measure failed 54-46, six votes shy of the 60 needed to pass in the Senate and be sent to the House for consideration.

“That is deeply unfortunate,” he said. “We need to put in place a reasonable background check.”

Mr. Bishop said he is committed to keep trying, and hopes that stricter regulations will eventually be put in place. During the speech, he said he is going to keep lobbying the Senate to prevent future gun-related tragedies.

Also during the speech, Mr. Bishop said a focus in Washington right now is job creation, but that there are challenges. Everyone acknowledges that jobs need to be created, but it is difficult to do so while curbing spending, he said, adding that the country must adhere to three separate part of the budget—set by the House, the Senate and the president.

Mr. Bishop said the focus right now is to create programs that will help the country and not be a drain on any of the budgets.

“We have to be careful and put in place programs that will allow us to grow our economy,” he said. “We have some tough issues to try and work through, and I am hopeful that we can.”

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By goldenrod (505), southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:58 AM
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what nonsense. And such distrust of government that it's good that 38,000 Americans are killed every year so that you can flex yr rhetorical flourish that you, a true bliever, ardently pious, hold their right to life should not trump yr right to any lethal protection &/or thrilling sport. Bishop is completely right. We need gun safety for all Americans, including gun registration, tracking the manufacturing, design, distribution, sales and transfers of all their products--each and everyone--as it ...more
By mo (85), Sag Harbor on Jun 13, 13 1:58 PM
Enforce the laws that already on the books and you would not need any new ones. Put criminals away for real time instead of plea dealing and good behavior early release. Statistics show these same criminals will likely strike again. And PLEASE stop political grandstanding on this issue! The Governor and anyone that voted for NYsafe Act needs to be removed next election because they failed to listen to their communities and Nation when they altered our rights regarding the 2nd Amendment. The Media ...more
By Common Scense (23), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 12:49 PM
Sandy hook was a hoax, I believe. People may have been killed, but "Adam Lanza" didn't have anything much to do with it. The lengths that government will go to secure an agenda are quite frightening.
By Lets go mets (135), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 2:03 PM
You really shouldn't post anymore.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 3:18 PM
A hoax?

They really do live among us, don't they?
By But I'm a blank! (992), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 13 3:17 PM
What was the reaction of the crowd when Tim said that the focus in Washington right now was job creation?
By KevinLuss (206), Detroit, Michigan on Jun 12, 13 2:28 PM
We have the RIGHT to bear arms, PERIOD. The Obama regime is a glaring example as to why we need to be armed, and armed well.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 12, 13 5:41 PM
Agreed. I absolutely hate guns. However the agenda to disarm regular, good, decent citizens is very scary. We mustn't allow these people to be disarmed. I know my statement about the sandy hook shooting sounds crazy to most, however, I do not put anything past government. At the end of the day we must realize that we are slowly, but surely, having our freedoms dissipated.
By Lets go mets (135), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 7:33 PM
Please tell us more about the hoax?
By But I'm a blank! (992), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 13 1:16 PM
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Oh please don't let him drag us all into this discussion again... We won, leave it at that. If you want to read Phil's nonsense you can read volumes of his anti gun propaganda at Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools - 27east

We Have A 2nd Amend. for a reason...End of story
Jun 12, 13 8:14 PM appended by joe hampton
He has not responded to anything and bailed 3 days ago at Nationwide Sequestration to try and come here to change the subjects at hand
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 12, 13 8:14 PM
Haha, another "you people" post. How surprising.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 12, 13 10:36 PM
How would tougher gun licensing have prevented the Newtown shooting?
By chief1 (1715), southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:56 PM
You've needed some "sack" for quite some time now.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 12, 13 10:37 PM
I contributed this earlier today you pulled an obama and said nothing.

Have to give Glenn Greenwald's decision to break a number of stories surrounding Obama's historic surveillance state points for consistency. This stuff infuriated Greenwald when Bush did it and he is just as infuriated today.
Can't say the same about for the rest of the media and Phil for that matter, Greenwald is recognizing among his left-wing media comrades. When it comes to a choice between principled consistency ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jun 13, 13 12:28 AM
TCM contributed this and you buried your head deeper into the sand and told everyone you were watching Spongebob. Really funny you turned off the news channels when your chickens came home to roost. time to fall back on the race card.

"So another round of investigations loom. We now add this sordid situation in Benghazi, the IRS, spying on reporters, and the possible spying on calls and e-mails made by American citizens. What's next? Breaking into a Washington hotel?

It's clear ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jun 13, 13 12:32 AM
"All The Fits That's News to Print!"
By PBR (4490), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 6:06 AM
Nope.

The correct answer is:

Franklin Pierce

George W. Bush is actually one of his direct descendants...
Jun 13, 13 8:08 PM appended by Mr. Z
For good measure, what about Warren Harding, the Teapot Dome, and the Ohio gang? Lunatics.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 13, 13 8:08 PM
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Bishops got to go. He's a traitor. The NY SAFE Act is unconstitutional and goes against our human rights. Congratulations Bishop you've made it to the "Do Not vote for" politicians list. A list of politicians who are against and who do not support the US Constitutions 2nd amendment. Your name, and others like you, will to be posted on Youtube to that affect for all to see.What part of "shall not be infringed" does he or others not understand. Background checks lead to confiscation. At his inauguration, ...more
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Jun 12, 13 11:08 PM
It "stands" because the challenge has just begun. The law is less than 6 months old.
By But I'm a blank! (992), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 13 3:20 PM
The nation missed an opportunity to get there rights stripped further away based on false flag attacks purportrated by a tyrannical govt. who are controlled by the elite. No doubt revolution is coming. Keep supporting the new world order agenda Tim. " the illegal we can do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer " Henry Kissenger. Martial law is coming people. Quantitative easing will end soon and the markets will crash. There will be chaos. They are now allowed to use the ...more
By icecreamman (218), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:03 AM
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CBS News/New York Times Polls are manipulated by their CEO's who are shills for, and bow to, the Bilderberg group and other UN small arms treaty and agenda21 advocates. This worked in China, Germany, Russia, India and the Congo where 100's of millions of people were slaughter all because they could not defend themselves against tyranny. In some cases their own gov't couldn't protect them. When the SHTF because of "the absence of lending standards" as written by award winner Peter Shiff, You'll ...more
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Jun 13, 13 9:01 PM
No need to worry about PRISM. National Intelligence director James Clapper said the government was not collecting information on millions of Americans. Unless, of course, he LIED (quite "wittingly").
By loading... (360), quiogue on Jun 13, 13 10:08 PM
Your either one of them trying to sell the official story or you are severely in denial. Either way sheep like you will be the first ones at the fema camps. You forgot drudge report, the blaze.com, before it's news.com, natural news.com, architects and engineers against the official 9/11 story, dr. Judy wood and her amazing oresentation on direct energy weapons or dew's (fascinating), remember building 7. Org and countless other quacks out there who are all paranoid like me.
By icecreamman (218), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 2:13 AM
Your blind allegiance to a tyrannical govt and it's mainstream media machine is commendable. Your response indicates your level of intelligence or lack there of. It's people like you, and there insistence that anyone questioning the govt. must be unpatriotic, that is most sad. You can't possibly dispute the millions of patriotic Americans and alternative media who are telling the real story so you make jokes. This is all very funny, having our civil liberties stripped away. Anyone who questions ...more
By icecreamman (218), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 9:40 PM
great news sarah palin is back on fox news. both me and my husband love her. we've met her and she is the real deal. welcome back into my living room, Sarah.

By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jun 13, 13 4:54 PM
your just mean phil
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jun 13, 13 8:49 PM
Yes Erin, mean spirited with way too much free time on his hands. Just about everyone on this board can have a rational discussion until he gets involved.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 13 10:10 PM
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By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 13 2:33 PM
Where did I say angry? There you go again stretching the truth. You are mediocre at twisting and spinning. Try a different tactic.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 13 11:26 PM
Thank you Phil for showing everyone just how transparent and simple you are. The "I'm rubber, your glue" argument is not only boring but very revealing of your intelligence. C'mon now phyllis, bounce it back.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 18, 13 7:53 PM
If after the massacre of the 20 6-year olds at the Sandy Hook Elementary School you can only think about your desire to own an automatic weapon with no questions asked, YOU ARE A BAD PERSON.
God help this great nation of ours.
By SHNative (546), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 8:49 PM
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If your information about automatic weapons registration is accurate, that is wonderful. We should now do the same thing with every semiautomatic weapon to make everyone owning one responsible for its use.

By VOS (721), WHB on Jun 14, 13 3:11 PM
So where are all the prosecutions? Certainly those nefariously transferred weapons weren't all "stolen". Registering all as Preliator says automatics are would certainly aid in prosecuting those miscreants who rely on their "second amendment rights" to provide the cloak of darkness under which they operate.
By VOS (721), WHB on Jun 14, 13 10:07 PM
I don't believe you're as dense as your posts would lead us to believe, Cap. When you and yours repeat that tired old saw "If guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns" you acknowledge that there is a significant number of weapons in the hands of criminals. How did they get there? Virtually every gun in the US begins its life as a legally produced or imported weapon but far too many (one is too many) end up in the wrong hands whether through nefarious transfers or theft.

In ...more
By VOS (721), WHB on Jun 15, 13 3:13 AM
With the Hussein Regime in power, the population should be armed to deter a tyrant in training! That's what the 2nd ammendment is all about.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 14, 13 7:11 AM
Obama is putting together the Black Liberation army and the Black panthers to overtake the country as we speak. More ridiculous fear mongering from the bigoted far right. Still can't believe a black man was voted president in your little minded Archie Bunker world.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:03 AM
Captain KKK speaks. Unfortunately all your opinions are based in bigotry,bias, and prejudice. I WANT YOU TO POST!!!! The more you post the quicker you Archie Bunker's will disappear as your posts speak for themselves. Should have read Anne Michands column in Newsday a couple of days ago, it fits you to a tee. Don't worry your spokesperson, Sarah Palin is back as the mouthpiece of the republican party on Fox news. Another great call by the conservatives. Who needs to speak, you do all your own damage.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 2:55 PM
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Just think if you put all your money into the market when Obama took office,you would be kissing his you know what. I really liked it better when our whole financial world was on the verge of ruination. Looks like business out here is really suffering too. Crying with a loaf of bread under each arm.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 3:00 PM
America's highest court is preparing to announce its decision on the future of affirmative action.

The issue was brought to the Supreme Court by 22-year-old Abigail Fisher, who claims the University of Texas unfairly discriminated against her because she is white.

US colleges are currently allowed to take a candidate's colour into account when deciding who to admit - if it increases racial diversity on campus. But the Supreme Court ruling could change that.
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 14, 13 10:08 PM
The lesson here is to create your own luck and wealth. No republican or democrat is going to magically change your life. Overachieve and overwork I guarantee you will have the security and happiness in life in America.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 10:18 AM
If you don't win elections you can't appoint people to the Supreme court who will push your agenda through. If your agenda is not the will of the majority you will not succeed and that is America.

By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 10:23 AM
I started calling you Archie Bunker's year ago, she copied me.

By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 1:03 PM
Obamacare is an impediment to job creation-
Infrastructure jobs are temporary.and are nothing more than pay back for union votes
Obstructing the plans of a Marxist in the Whiite House is the righ tthing to do
Killing an unborn child isn't a woman's "health issue" Champ
Do you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 14, 13 4:54 PM
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Phil said "Gotta control those uppity women who think they have the right to make their own decisions"

<--- Think
Jun 14, 13 10:05 PM appended by They call me
never denounce the real culture of oppression of women. Right? No there cool and misunderstood
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:05 PM
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BHO's leadership style which in effect doesn't exist. The man is a bystander to his own presidency. Look at his reaction to the IRS, I am outraged to learn about the IRS scandal.' DOJ snooping on the AP and our own James Rosen. He says, 'I am deeply disturbed by this intrusion on to the press.
Even on Benghazi, he expresses his deep regret and then he says, 'I have to find out what happened.' He's the commander and chief, he's the president; he acts as if he has just stumbled upon the scene ...more
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:19 PM
Thank god its Friday I cant stand to watch this circus anymore
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:21 PM
Your right TCM it seems the progressives would rather side with sharia law then uphold the U.S. constitution and our Republic
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jun 14, 13 11:48 PM
I think this would solve BF's moral conundrum:

How Not To Be A Dad: The Latest Science Of Male Birth Control

Examining 8 promising methods of male contraception in development. Happy Father's Day!


Jun 16, 13 11:45 AM appended by Mr. Z
Most promising: RISUG
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 16, 13 11:45 AM
What do you suppose Pelosi would say if someone told her there were 200 Sandy Hook massacres committed today? That would be 4,000 dead!

Of course, she'd be SHOCKED! We all would!

And what if this level of carnage took place EVERY DAY--day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year?

Do you think she'd be upset? Do you think she'd be in favor of calling out the National Guard quickly to have it stopped?

You bet she would--yet 200 Sandy Hooks ...more
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 12:03 AM
Phil said "Are you afraid that you'll run out ...more of targets.

wow,



By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 8:45 AM
what makes you think the soldiers would fire on americans while our corrupt media has done its best to turn the page on BHO's myriad of scandals, the deep-dive numbers in the polls are absolutely devastating for the president. These numbers also reflect what we are seeing in Obama's overall approval ratings . and the media as well as you are willfully ignoring reporting on both.

Thanks for playing, I am going to the golf coarse good day
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 9:10 AM
he is still ignoring it dan,notice he gave mr z a thumbs up after you outted him for ignoring the polls and he stayed silent on the subject.
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jun 16, 13 4:34 PM
Whatever the numbers are, WHO CARES, he still is the president till 2016. Come back in February 2016 and you could start playing again. You'll put Rubio up as the latino answer for their votes,while he is busy reneging on immigration reform.You will lose again. Maybe you should start playing again in 2020. Or maybe you will just become extinct.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 11:15 AM
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The only nut on here is you, violence is not the answer. Patriotic americans would be slaughtered not by American troops but by U.N peacekeepers who are stationed all over the country and continually being flown in daily by the thousands. They are not American soldiers, they are U.N mercenaries in blue uniform's. Anyone who still thinks this is a democrat/ republican or left/right issue is asleep or in denial. We are on the verge of societal collapse being purportrated by the evil elite. Martial ...more
By icecreamman (218), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 10:58 PM
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By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 15, 13 6:54 AM
And now for something really different:

Everything is Rigged, Vol. 9,713: This Time, It's Currencies


Keep battling over circus shows, all the while point shaving, coin shaving, and the fix being in bleeds the people dry.

"Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for life. Society is built on individual responsibility, and access to opportunity. A "Republican" will then slash fishing education, vilify teachers, reward corporate fisheries, and gut regulations protecting ...more
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 16, 13 11:35 AM
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Yep, we don't need regulations. That way there are no rules to be disobeyed when factories explode from a lack of oversight, and the ocean reefs are pushing up daisies from ocean acidification via carbon emissions. If this species survives beyond the next 200 years, I will be VERY surprised.

Coral decline threatens fish biodiversity in marine reserves

Geoffrey P. Jones *, Mark I. McCormick, Maya Srinivasan, and Janelle V. Eagle

Author Affiliations:
Edited by Robert ...more
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 16, 13 6:33 PM
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Doctors are dumping health insurance plans, and say they can charge patients less

More and more physicians say they make the same income and offer better quality care to there patients after dumping all health insurance companies.

They say after years of dealing with the red tape of health insurance companies and the high overhead for the staff they hired just to deal with paperwork, they switched to a system of charging there patients a monthly fee plus the price of an office ...more
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 16, 13 4:23 PM
That's why they bill the insurance companies three times the amount the insurance companies actually allow. What are you going to tell me next, there are price boards in doctor's offices so you can compare prices.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 8:31 AM
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Mets fan, you can bill ins companies anything you want. They have set fees to pay the dr.Period. I know this as fact, I work in a doctors office doing the billing. Insurance companies set all payments for doctors, hospitals and facilities. No way around it.
By squeaky (270), hampton bays on Jun 18, 13 9:01 AM
It doesn't stop doctors from trying to get more every chance they get. I've never seen a bill that what the doctor billed was the same the insurance company allowed.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 11:49 AM
because you know nothing about billing....a doctor can bill anything they want! Insurance companys only pay what that doctor has contracted with them to recieve. Medicare fees are different, Medicare pays what they will pay, never more and almost always less or not at all. This will matter when doctors stop taking insurance and you need to go to Stony Brook or farther just for a visit to your PCP.
By squeaky (270), hampton bays on Jun 18, 13 1:47 PM
Your missing the point of an earlier post.
However, why don't they submit a bill to the insurance company with the amount they already know is the allowable amount. The answer is they are trying to get more money for their services or why else would they bill three times the allowable amount. Plastic surgeon billed $6500 for stitures for a cut, allowable amount $2500, WHY?
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:46 PM
not really missing the poimt...an office or faciility can bill anything they want but will NEVER get anything more. Its always less. I still dont know how Medicaid fraud can happen unless they bill for visits that never happen and believe me, its not worth the paper work. $5.00 a day for ICU stay is just not worth the trouble. Its a huge mess, and when Govt gets their hands on this its gonna be even worse. They have yet to prove they can do anything right.
By squeaky (270), hampton bays on Jun 19, 13 9:39 AM
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If they never get anything more, WHY are they billing more than they know is allowable?
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 22, 13 2:21 PM
I did not think Obama's Father's Day Message was a fitting one : It's Hard Being a Single Mom or Gay Dad....After all its not Single mothers day!

So happy Fathers day to the rest of you...
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 16, 13 4:28 PM
I wonder if anyone is familiar with another deadly weapon, it's called a motor vehicle. Yet, to protect society at large and simultaneously allow citizens freedom and independence to move about just ONE of the MANY laws we employ to increase the probability that it will be a safe experience, is by way of car registration. This is not the sole responsibility required of all vehicle owners, but one of many and does not seem to be overburdensom or excessive government control. Last I checked this practice ...more
By iendeduphere (2), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 11:03 PM
BRIT HUME: President Obama's handling of the deteriorating situation in Syria follows a pattern traceable through much of his political career. When the issues are difficult and the options unappetizing, he tends simply to go away.

Recall his history of voting present in the Illinois legislature. But when you're president you can't simply vote present.

Eventually, you have to decide. So he often decides but says as little about it as possible. His decision to send small arms to ...more
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 12:00 AM
Send your kid to Syria
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 11:53 AM
The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule
by Thomas Frank


Casting back to the early days of the conservative revolution, Frank describes the rise of a ruling coalition dedicated to dismantling government. But rather than cutting down the big government they claim to hate, conservatives have simply sold it off, deregulating some industries, defunding others, but always turning public policy into a private-sector bidding war.

Washington itself has been remade into a golden ...more
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 18, 13 6:47 PM
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Bank of America whistle-blower’s bombshell: “We were told to lie”

Bombshell: Bank of America whistle-blowers detail horrid schemes to fleece borrowers, reward foreclosures (UPDATED)
By David Dayen
Jun 18, 13 7:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
Check out the full Bank of America whistleblower details (affidavits) Read former staff describe getting Target gift cards as a prize for foreclosing on people, and other awful schemes
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 18, 13 7:12 PM
Typical left wing racism on parade here. Only big government can take care of the minorities, God knows they can't do it themselves, gotta have the govt, paying the way. Disgusting.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 19, 13 3:46 PM
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Racist as always big fresh. Today's republicans should use the ideals of the first republican nominee John Fremont in 1856. He heeded his in-laws the Bent family of Missouri, who war fierce abolitionists. John Fremont wanted to abolish slavery in the first constitution of California during our manifest destiny years. The federal government wasn't ready for such progressive thinking. Lincoln picked up where Fremont left off and the south voted democrat till the republicans of today took over. Even ...more
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:14 PM
to hell with that
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:19 PM
As usual,that's all you got. Read history and make some opinions based on facts not your usual bias, prejudice and hatred. Which is why the party is going to die.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:20 PM
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By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:24 PM
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Are the immigrant latinos also part of your institutionalized poverty program the left has schemed to get their votes as well. Fantasyland. As someone who grew up blue collar and conservative, it took my later years to see the conservatives around me as bigoted,biased and prejudiced. This solely based on their words confiding in me thinking I was still one of their compadres. Fearful their white power was eroding.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 8:30 AM
Tea Party Rally May Have Drawn Bigger Crowd than Obama Speech in Berlin

When Barack Obama gave a speech in Berlin in 2008, he drew a crowd of 200,000. Wednesday's speech at Berlin's Brandenburg Gate was a little less popular. White House pool reporter Elmar Jakobs estimated the crowd at only 4,500 nuts.
Jun 19, 13 10:06 PM appended by 27dan
President Obama's honeymoon with the world is over.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 10:06 PM
by invitation only THATS B.S.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 12:00 AM
The Millennials Sour on Obama
His job approval among people under age 30 dropped 17 points over the past month.

How does this all reflect on the Obama presidency? The NSA surveillance debate, while contentious, is just one of the president's problems. The administration's overall aimlessness, combined with a trio of scandals and spreading unrest in the Middle East and elsewhere, are taking their toll.

The president's overall job approval in the June 13 CNN/ORC poll is 45% approve, ...more
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:36 PM
Phil, you old broken record. Try posting something original. And please resist the urge to cut and paste.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 13 8:26 PM
Facts? Yeah right.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 13 10:08 PM
Getting under your thin skin Phyllis?
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 13 10:09 PM
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By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 24, 13 11:04 PM
I don't know as my "contributions" keep getting the axe.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 25, 13 9:03 PM
Glad to see that you agree that the left's treatment of minorities is racist and bigotted! My quote is an example of the typical liberal policy of race relations. So simple even a Marxist can understand it! Off to tend to one of the premier properties in our fair village, God bless the billionaires!!!!!
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 20, 13 7:04 AM
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Senator Mitch "Filibuster" McConnell:

On the very day debate began on a bill to repeal subsidies to Big Oil, an astonishing $131,500 in campaign contributions passed from the hands of oil donors in Midland, Texas into Mitch McConnell’s re-election war chest. Three days later the bill failed by filibuster.

•Companies that lobbied against bringing jobs back to America and ending tax breaks for offshoring have given McConnell one million dollars to win his elections and ...more
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 6:07 PM
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By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:26 PM
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Jun 20, 13 6:41 PM appended by Mr. Z
And FYI, after adjustment for inflation the Dow is pure b******t. Here comes the next bubble...
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 6:41 PM
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By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 6:41 PM
Farm Bill Fails In House
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 7:01 PM
Note to Fox News:

Pouring liquid nitrogen into a pool at a party will not create a "toxic cloud". Nitrogen is inert, and it will not react with chlorine,

However, excessive amounts of nitrogen will displace the oxygen in the vicinity of the water's surface.

Morons...
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 21, 13 2:44 AM
The Mr. Science Show
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The Mr. Science Show was a zany, lecture based science television program for children developed by Tim Perkins, which aired weekly in the 1990s. The program was produced in the United States. The show utilized simple science experiments, silly stories, and stunts to explain specific concepts in science...
Thanks for playing grasping at straws
Jun 21, 13 9:42 PM appended by joe hampton
rahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 21, 13 9:42 PM
it seems to me that fairwind was not speaking of your lol "public radio show" but the cable show. how self patronizing you are to assume you know what he meant
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jun 21, 13 11:04 PM
Allowing the Taliban to return to power,is effectively a reversal of the gains made in the war on terror, as well as the deterrent laid down in the aftermath of 9/11.
BHO has given back all the gains President Bush made against the taliban . America is on the way to sharia being complient. thanks to the pigs who vote democrat.
obama always capitulates with, and actively arms, America's enemies and stands against America's friends.
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 21, 13 4:05 AM
Why do you disagree with making our borders secure? This one is for you Champ?
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 21, 13 7:05 AM
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that only 44% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of obama's job performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) now disapprove.

I would imagine that is the same 44% that pays no federal income tax.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 8:24 PM
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Gee you think
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jun 21, 13 9:31 PM
Who cares about polls, HE was already elected. Come back in February 2016.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 22, 13 2:14 PM
Paul / Cruz 2016
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jun 21, 13 9:36 PM
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County wants to be 51st state
Bid developing for region to leave leftist Colorado

GREELEY, Colo. – A county in Colorado that was immortalized in the novel and 1978 miniseries “Centennial” once again could achieve fame as it finds itself in a unique position among America’s counties – considering a bid to become the 51st state.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 10:18 PM
very interesting dan i will read up on this
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jun 21, 13 11:05 PM
Da' Yoopers didn't become the 51st state, and I see a bleak future for this movement as well.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 22, 13 5:09 PM
You disagree with secure borders because the borders will never be secure enough for the Republican Party. That is one of the top three must ridiculous posts of all time, congrats! Do you have an opinion of your own? You aren't in favor of seure borders, please explain why, thanks Chap.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 22, 13 7:38 AM
Did the crowsd of illegals in front of 7-11 come in through Canada? Please provide a source to back up your comment Champ. Still dodging the question as to why you are not in favor of secure borders. Typical
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 23, 13 7:49 AM
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By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 23, 13 7:06 PM
Right there in black and white Champ! June 20. Why do you with making our borders seure? Answer: Because( that's the killer right there) they will never be secure enough for the Republican Party.
Calling the Boston Terrorist a victim of gun violence just proves the mental disease that is liberalism. He's not a victim, just a dirt bag of a human being.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 24, 13 6:21 PM
Tis great nation has the RIGHT and DUTY to close our borders to all those without authorization to enter. Nothing discriminatory about that Champ.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jun 25, 13 4:41 PM
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no close the Northern border as well
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 10:30 PM
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By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 10:39 PM
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BHO is surrounded by wall-to-wall scandals, crises and embarrassments, so the only way he can divert attention is to talk about the weather!

By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:01 PM
Nice fairytale

Polls: Obama Collapses; 70% Want More Benghazi, IRS Investigations
26 Jun 2013, 7:58 AM PDT
New polls released Tuesday shows that President Obama's troubles have only gotten worse since the previous polls. As of now, Obama is upside down by a full eight points with only 43% approving of his job performance while 51% disapprove. Last month, in this same polls, Obama was in a little better shape at 44% - 50%.

The internals of the polls don't look much ...more
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 26, 13 9:27 PM
If you bothered to read it the source was the Washington Post
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 27, 13 7:24 PM
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Too funny TCM you inspired me LOL
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 27, 13 7:51 PM
Haaaaa!

ROTFLMAO!

Perfect!

Too funny! You guys nailed it. LOL
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 8:04 PM
Phil, what is with all the "thanks for playing" lines? Talk about redundant and boring.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jun 27, 13 9:52 PM
Nice try

Thursday, June 27

President Obama Job Approval Gallup Approve 50,

President Obama Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 45, Disapprove 53 Disapprove +8

President Obama Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 43, Disapprove 50 Disapprove +7

Direction of Country Reuters/Ipsos Right Direction 28, Wrong Track 56 Wrong Track +28

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Gallup For/Favor 41, Against/Oppose 54 Against/Oppose +8
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:21 PM
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Climate change,

Ya its called Summer dummy
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 8:05 PM
obama's anti-growth “climate action plan” ignores real data, tramples representative government, spells economic ruin and clearly wasn't subjected to proper cost-benefit analysis.

Blame-mankind “scientists” can't explain global warming's virtual halt since 1997 while U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide have fallen to 1994 levels. Yet obama — defying his radical agenda's rejection by Congress — plans to decree by executive fiat that Americans must pay dearly ...more
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:29 PM
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Carbon sink:

Ocean acidification is the name given to the ongoing decrease in the pH of the Earth's oceans, caused by the uptake of anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere.[1] About 30–40% of the carbon dioxide released by humans into the atmosphere dissolves into the oceans, rivers and lakes.[2][3] To maintain chemical equilibrium, some of it reacts with the water to form carbonic acid. Some of these extra carbonic acid molecules react with a water molecule to give ...more
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jun 28, 13 7:33 PM
You are correct global warming has not stopped it takes place every Summer
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:57 PM
Listen you know what i am saying, We went from global warming to cooling to climate change, you can always find a situation somewhere to make your argument. What you really want is socialism and you will use any agenda that gets you there.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 9:25 PM
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Well said!
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 29, 13 2:45 AM
Stick your head in the sand. Changing two billion chinese into capitalists has no effect on the environment.
By Mets fan (442), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 1:40 PM
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Natural oil leeks in the sea floor have been occuring since the begining of time. There is effectively an oil spill every day at Coal Oil Point (COP), the natural seeps off Santa Barbara where 20 to 25 tons of oil have leaked from the seafloor each day for the last several hundred thousand years. Nature does an amazing job acting on this oil .microbes eat 90 % of it leaving a small fraction of the compounds in the sediments, Like Dan said,What you really want is socialism and you will use any agenda ...more
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jun 29, 13 12:49 PM
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Stop challenging Phil or he will take his soccer ball and go home. Your not supposed to debate these things the socilists know whats good for you. Hell he is a modern day George Bernard Shaw
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 29, 13 1:02 PM
'toxic queen' alec baldwin launches homophobic rant against reporter

'today show' has omitted homophobia from alec baldwin twitter-rant

cnn also omited homophobia in report on alec baldwin's twitter rant

as did abc this morning

in my opinion alec is a pompous coward and abusive hack and I have told him that to his face on the street in east hampton

will you progressives hear also give this poor excuse for a man a pass ?
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jun 29, 13 1:19 PM
Nope.

Thanks for sayin' it to his face for everyone.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 1, 13 5:21 PM
Of coarse they wont Erin, Alec is one of there gods like Bill Maher or Michael Boore. You actually confused Phil as he came here after your post and It seems did not know how to answer you.
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 29, 13 8:40 PM
You still did not answer her qestion...Will you condom Alec for his unfortunate homophobic comments.

Why cant you do it Phil?
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 30, 13 12:26 AM
You would rather not... so one could reasonably assume that you... possessing a highly opinionated nature is implying that his comments were ok with you?
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jun 30, 13 5:50 AM
But we were specifically asking about your opinion of Alec and you repeatedly balk on a statement of record.you have the same playbook as many on the left when trapped just divert. just answer the question about Alec and then we can move on to the next issue.

But I suspect you will refuse... Again!



By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 1, 13 9:30 PM
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Still seems to have avoided the question, just saying
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:42 PM
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By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 1, 13 9:49 PM
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By local 84 (177), riverhead on Jul 1, 13 10:04 PM
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By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:38 PM
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Even if he is WRONG as usuall
By local 84 (177), riverhead on Jul 1, 13 10:06 PM
According to a new Wall Street Journal analysis, healthy Americans may see their health insurance rates double or triple upon Obamacare’s January 2014 grand opening.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:48 PM
please tell me how this is better than what we had before? i really do not get it? who can afford to pay this? please one of you guys explain to me what is going on with this it seems very crazy.
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 1, 13 11:00 PM
Wish I could Erin, I wish I could

He lied about everything.

* If you like your insurance you can keep it.
* Your premiums will go down by $2,500
* If you like your doctors, you can keep them.
* Everyone will be covered!
* Every person with denied care won't be denied!
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 2, 13 12:28 AM
it seems like he wants to keep some people in check so the others can catch up. but they never will becuse they are to comfortable getting it for free. right?
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 2, 13 8:13 PM
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By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 2, 13 7:20 PM
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By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 2, 13 7:35 PM
Thank you TCM
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 2, 13 7:48 PM
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By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 2, 13 7:37 PM
That has to be one of the most socially ignorant things I have ever read.

Everyone here who reads this will lose a few IQ points just for glancing at it. May whatever deity you believe in have mercy on your soul...
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 2, 13 9:21 PM
really all I said was captain and joe schooled him and i found it to be refreshing.

what is so bad about that sh press? wow a little thin skinned don't you think?
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 2, 13 8:11 PM
Women urged to stop sex, even with husbands
'Do not make him dinner, do not go fetch him a cold beer from the fridge'
An outspoken feminist is recruiting women to stop having sex with all Texas men – even their husbands – until the men start voting for the “right” to end an unborn baby’s life with a late-term abortion.

I say hello hand and it will give us time to golf more.
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 2, 13 8:25 PM
Texas is predominantly Republican Phil. Sounds like democracy is working just fine there.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jul 3, 13 9:13 PM
About the only place it is working D, Thank GOD for Texas!
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 3, 13 11:34 PM
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That's not exclusive to Texas Republicans. Seems like a lot of that special session garbage going on in the current administration and past administrations. Goes back to what I always say, politicians are predominantly d-bags. Unfortunately, I have to align myself with the d-bags most likely to not take away any more of my freedoms.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 13 8:33 AM
That's not exclusive to Texas Republicans. Seems like a lot of that special session garbage going on in the current administration and past administrations. Goes back to what I always say, politicians are predominantly d-bags. Unfortunately, I have to align myself with the d-bags most likely to not take away any more of my freedoms.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 13 8:33 AM
Yes, better than one of ou.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 13 5:44 PM
Hahaha.
By dnice (1558), Hampton Bays on Jul 5, 13 9:10 PM
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By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 10:10 PM
Dan, He is just going to report you comment as inappropriate . Its like obama you can't criticize anything he does in either.

So I have decided you need a need a time out Phil . I will not be responding to ANYTHING he says till AUG 1st.
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 3, 13 10:28 PM
I'm In, I like the way you always find the right path Joe. You are truly one of a kind. August first it is
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 10:32 PM
love it, im in also
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 3, 13 10:44 PM
Nice, Understood P Squelch on full , You got it Joe, August 1 it is.

Imagine that! Joe just gave us the greatest Independence day ever, a peaceful dummy free Summer. Thanks Joe!

Captain, B.F,Dnice,Cheif still need to check in on this.
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 3, 13 11:32 PM
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On this Important day for our great Republic... Let us together enjoy and celebrate our happiness. On this 4th of July let us salute all those brave men and women who serve for our right to Life - Liberty - And the pursuit of happiness.

Have a happy & safe Independence day!
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 4, 13 12:01 AM
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But, have you got a license to shoot a fricasseeing rabbit?
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 4, 13 12:08 AM
As Americans gather to celebrate the anniversary of our nation's freedom, we contemplate, on the one hand, the revolution in Egypt, where people crying out for freedom could only appeal to the military, having lost any power of self-government; and, on the other, the slow imposition of Obamacare in the United States, delayed only so that it might never be defeated, creeping gradually into every aspect of life, administered by agencies already shown to be hostile to freedom. We have much for which ...more
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 10:00 AM
Dan, Today the Egyptian military effectively declared a Coup,

Overthrowing the elected government of the repressive Muslim Brotherhood

The Obama administration is struggling to come up with a coherent strategy to deal with the situation.

Even with Obamas refusal to state whether the United States would withdraw aid to Egypt, It is clear the Arab Spring like Obamacare is a complete failure.
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 4, 13 10:19 AM
PLAGIARIST!
By VOS (721), WHB on Jul 4, 13 2:36 PM
de Tocqueville was/is a hack.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 6, 13 12:09 AM
to joe hampton, 27day, Erin 27 E, Undocumented Democrat and They call me:

Bless you.

As a bonus, perhaps you could pledge to stop hijacking every thread as a soapbox for your whining about President Obama. We know (Dear god, how well we know!) that you think that he is a terrible person in every way but you LOST, for goodness sake. Better luck in 2016 but stop the mewling, okay. Have you no shame?
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 4, 13 11:57 AM
You mean like all the Buck Fush , Descent is patriotic and Call the village they must have lost there idiot Bumper stickers on every Prius in the Hamptons for the eight years during Mr. Bush.

You mean like the lack of shame the sore losers showed with the hanging Chad fiasco

You mean like all the crying over Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby and the Patriot act... or the Dick Cheney hunting jokes and all the bitching over Haliburton.

How about the water boarding and Guantánamo ...more
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 4, 13 1:15 PM
"Descent is patriotic"

Catch me now, I'm falling. And a happy Independence Day to all!
By VOS (721), WHB on Jul 4, 13 1:58 PM
to joe hampton:

You have missed the point (again), everyone is entitled to express his opinion, however relentlessly and boringly, as long as it is relevant to the article. In the case of your deranged coterie, however, EVERY article is appropriated to endless reiteration of character attacks on President Obama.

One would think, from the habitual tenor of your comments, that this was the Southampton "Lunatic Reactionary" Press website. It isn't, but there ARE many such out there ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 4, 13 2:40 PM
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Hey Vos if you were falling I would keep on walking.

I was using voice recognition software on my phone to post before and it interpreted it as Descent instead of Dissent wow stop the press a typo.

No, It is you that have missed the point HH... You will not be allowed to go unchecked in your progressive hive for 8 years as you plot your damage to the country unchallenged and without correction.
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 5, 13 1:37 AM
Yesterday, was the first time it became obvious the difficulties arising in from the implementation of Obamacare are very real. Last night’s announcement of a one-year delay in the implementation of the employer mandate has silenced obamas chorus of defenders and is the first serious indication that the administration sees that the wheels are coming off the bus, and is very worried about it.

By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 5, 13 6:21 AM
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TCM, the problem is already manifesting in the quality of jobs any fool can see this is a disaster. Just look at these numbers

As Obamacare Strikes: Part-Time Jobs Surge To All Time High; Full-Time Jobs Plunge By 240,000
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 11:08 AM
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Dan did you see the Wall St. Journal called it “A Fiasco for the Ages.” as it reminded everyone yesterday they fought the A.C.A. from its start & we’d like to apologize. It turns out we were not nearly critical enough.”
Editors of The N.Y. Times, obama’s most reliable sycophants, are deep in mourning, Nancy said " Only way to find out what was in Obamacare was to pass it " it passed , the messiah signed it, and we’re beginning to see the results. It’s ...more
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 5, 13 11:25 AM
BHO “has been unconstitutional in his circumventing of Congress and very successful in creating an imperial presidency”
BHO's latest legal end run around Congress, delaying enforcement of the employer health mandate has sparked more questions about whether he’s abusing his executive discretion under the Constitution.
The move announced late Tuesday was the latest in a string of decisions where our King has simply decided he can take matters into his own hands.
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 5, 13 3:47 PM
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By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jul 5, 13 4:08 PM
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a coalition of over two dozen leading gay activists are calling on capital one to fire spokesman alec baldwin in the wake of homophobic tweets the actor made last week on twitter.
“we urge all americans to ask themselves, ‘what’s in your wallet?’ and hope they will reject baldwin’s homophobia by cutting up those capital one cards in their wallets”
like i did last night
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 5, 13 7:13 PM
Stop being so thin skinned grow up and stop acting like a two year old saying he called me a name. Who really cares what Alec Baldwin says anyway. By the way I thought he was the big hero of liberals and gays?
By chief1 (1715), southampton on Jul 5, 13 8:59 PM
cheif you missed what is going on here read a few lines up
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 5, 13 11:03 PM
A New York Times profile of Valerie Jarrett, President Obama’s top aide, glosses over her family’s radical history, including ties to a top communist activist and to former Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers.


By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 6, 13 8:15 PM
We have a complete breakdown of our Constitutional system. Neither house of Congress ever read this bill... nor any member in Congress. You had one-party control at the time, So we have what is now an unconstitutional law imposed on the American people. 2700 pages, 20,000 pages of regulations affecting every single human being in this country. One sixth of the economy. None of these people read it, none of them understand it. We don’t understand it, the businesses that are supposed to implement ...more
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 5, 13 4:27 PM
The decision to delay the mandate until 2015, which the administration announced on Tuesday after hours in the hope no one noticed, is a setback for Obama, who is currently attempting to shoehorn immigration reform legislation through the House for the same reason he is stalling the mandate

Votes!
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 6:23 PM
If you have ever read, or absorbed a single shred of "American History", you'd know that you sound like a Tory.
Jul 6, 13 12:06 AM appended by Mr. Z
The information which Columbus wanted most was: "Where is the GOLD?!?"
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 6, 13 12:06 AM
to joe hampton:

Take it easy, joe, you sound on the verge of apoplexy. I fear that you have succumbed to the danger that all propagandists face, you have come to believe your own fiction.

Be assured that none of what you have just written will come to pass. Some people will have difficulty adjusting to Affordable Care, but they will be an infinitesimal minority, and businesses will soon realize that Affordable Care affects all competitors the same, so they will have to stop using ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 6, 13 11:36 AM
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Smells cleaner in here already
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 10:40 PM
de Tocqueville is/was, and shall always be a hack.

An aristocrat's opinion of egalitarianism.

In other words, a crock of BULL****.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 6, 13 12:26 AM
Why is that Z
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 6, 13 10:32 AM
Besides the fact he was born an aristocrat, spent his whole life in politics, and had the "excursion" to the United States funded for him, I'll also throw in that his "tour" was more of an extended vacation. He wanted for nothing, was privately tutored, and honestly I'd have more respect for his "journey" if he accumulated his information while working odd jobs and befriending people.

The real clincher is that he didn't actually write the whole book. His pal Beaumont did...
Jul 7, 13 12:53 AM appended by Mr. Z
"His pal Beaumont did a lot of the work..."
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 12:53 AM
and how does any of that detract from the message...
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 7, 13 8:51 AM
The fact that Dear Leader has decreed the implimemntation be delayed, in violation of the law, proves He is nothing more than a dictator in training. Actually, He's getting good at it in a hurry! As usual, His sycophants are singing His praises without regard to the legality of His actions.
By bigfresh (1606), north sea on Jul 6, 13 10:51 AM
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Joe is correct, We have the power to defund this nightmare ! We have the power to defund Obamacare. Given that a vast majority of Americans detest it what are we waiting for !
This law would still require businesses to pay an Obamacare fine, but Obama is just asking businesses to ignore the law in 2014. What would prevent the IRS from retroactively coming back and imposing the 2014 fines after the election, at least against "certain" businesses owned by political opponents?
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 6, 13 7:32 PM
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How can we defund it I have not seen this , Please explain
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 6, 13 8:01 PM
Hat Head, Even you and world war Z must admit we have the elements of a police state here, The SCOTUS last week ruled that law enforcement can take DNA from you when you’re stopped for a speeding ticket and Scalia was right in his Dissent to be concerned about a national database.

Even the shunned one would have to admit... It goes way over the line of our traditions... we will have to ask him after Aug 1st

You look at whats going on in obamas IRS, they are collecting ...more
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 6, 13 6:21 PM
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1984?

So, let me get this straight. You finally acknowledge class warfare exists, that corporations have too much power, and our system has come to serve only a fraction of this country's population?

Google: Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States

Maybe you'll learn something...
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 12:45 AM
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Stop being so dam condesending...Class warfare definitely exists. What made our republic different was there was a path to upward mobility... if you worked hard enough...yes it might even take two or three generations to fully achieve, but it was possible. as opposed to your system where there is an absolute ruling class, a thin layer that can never be challenged in any other way but revolution.
What makes me crazy is the people that would rather live in the latter society as to eliminate any ...more
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 7, 13 9:06 AM
If that's what you think my idea of a "system" is, you don't know me at all and have absorbed nothing from anything I've ever written.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 10:41 AM
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Well said Big Fresh & Mr. Hampton, Thank you for taking the time out of your day to round up the facts
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 6, 13 7:38 PM
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This is fasinating,
Kenyan Cardinal John Njue, Archbishop of Nairobi and president of the Kenyan Episcopal Conference, joined other African leaders last week in open dismissal of President Obama’“Those people who have already ruined their society…let them not become our teachers to tell us where to go,” said Njue in response to Obama’s statements. “I think we need to act according to our own traditions and our faiths.”

By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 10:49 PM
i just read an interesting quote "i tremble for my country when I reflect that god is just; and that his justice cannot sleep forever." thomas jefferson, 1781.

sadly since 1963 when the bible was banned from the public schools, etc is when i believe the country slipped in the cesspool.
I fear for this country, especially since we decided to back away from israel.and support other governments with sharia law. it is very scary

By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 6, 13 11:04 PM
So we should be teaching Deuteronomy, Exodus, Leviticus, Isaiah, hate, indifference, methods of public execution, how to sell your daughter into slavery, how touching the skin of a dead pig makes someone "unclean", or last but not least how we should execute those who work on the "Sabbath"?

If you're another "Holy Bible" cherrypicker who thinks it's a "Good Book" you really need to read it more thoroughly...
Jul 7, 13 1:08 AM appended by Mr. Z
1 Corinthians 14:34 - Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 1:08 AM
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to 27day:

News Bulletin: Roman Catholic Cardinal is opposed to marriage equality, female priests, contraception and homosexual practice. Film at eleven.

Here's what President Obama actually said that resulted in the good cardinal's criticism:

“My basic view is that regardless of race, regardless of religion, regardless of gender, regardless of sexual orientation, when it comes to the law, people should be treated equally, and that’s a principle that I think ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 7, 13 11:37 AM
But not those who promote a book which is pro-slavery?
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 12:31 PM
HHS , Personally I could care less who Phil sleeps with or what Jay Sears fumbles with (until it included the faces of our underage children, a practice no one here except you seemed to think was acceptable)

The excerpt I saw was of the Kenyan Cardinal upset about the lack of morals and faith. Saying in response to Obama’s statements. “I think we need to act according to our own traditions and our faiths.” in other words please do not tell us how to live when your world ...more
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 12:39 PM
Obama on Not Visiting Kenya:

"I Try to Spread the Wealth Around"

How Pompous and Narcissistic
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 7, 13 1:09 PM
well good night all plesant dreams of years gone by
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 6, 13 11:06 PM
to joe hampton:

First, you publish a nonsensical broadside against Affordable Care, and then, when I refute it, you switch topics entirely and claim that I thereby approve of limitations to our civil rights.

Personal medical data will be no more public under Affordable Care than it is now. Any claim to the contrary (for the obvious purpose of including Affordable Care under the rubric of "Attacks on personal liberty") is specious.

Are our personal liberties being attacked? ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 7, 13 2:09 AM
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How about a compromise you admit abortion is murder of Innocent baby's and we will accept civil unions with all the monetary benefits and protections that go with it.

We FIRST fix the border for good and make it impossible for future breaking of the law and we will grant amnesty to people without a criminal record that have already broke the law and are in the country Illegally!

As for the second amendment HANDS OFF!

By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 12:51 PM
Here. Learn something:

The Real Boston Tea Party was Against the Wal-Mart of the 1770s
by Thom Hartmann

CNBC Correspondent Rick Santelli called for a "Chicago Tea Party" on Feb 19th in protesting President Obama's plan to help homeowners in trouble. Santelli's call was answered by the right-wing group Freedomworks, which funds campaigns promoting big business interests, and is the opposite of what the real Boston Tea Party was. FreedomWorks was funded in 2004 by Dick Army ...more
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 11:33 PM
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"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

~ Mark Twain

See above...
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 8, 13 6:41 PM
High Hat and Mr Z you two must realize things are on the verge of falling apart for BHO

Watergate investigator Bob Woodward of the Washington Post compares Barack Obama to Richard Nixon. Members of Congress say it’s about time to consider it. Bill Clinton hints Obama’s constitutional violations make him eligible. And even Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin has called for Obama’s impeachment.

a document is addressed to members of Congress, who have the responsibility ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 7, 13 11:40 PM
You do realize that the aforementioned "members of Congress" have utterly violated every principal this country was founded upon, correct?

Credibility is sorely lacking all around, I would say...

The Real Boston Tea Party was Against the Wal-Mart of the 1770s
by Thom Hartmann
Jul 8, 13 6:44 PM appended by Mr. Z
"How much 'soft money' may I expect to receive in exchange for my 'core values'?" ~ George Carlin
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 8, 13 6:44 PM
"principal value"
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 8, 13 6:52 PM
to 27dan:

Actually, we Liberals don't necessarily find Jay Sears' behavior acceptable, just harmless and protected by the 1st and 4th amendment. (To refresh the memory of those unacquainted with the case, Mr. Sears was arrested for cutting photographs of the heads of children out of innocuous pictures, pasting them onto pornographic photographs of adults and perusing them solitarily, in private, behind the walls of his own home.)

Thanks for illustrating my point. You will take ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 8, 13 2:08 AM
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We shall see Mr hat we shall see
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 8, 13 10:14 AM
This is what happens to fraudsters like Barack Hussein Obama II, whose only experience was as a shake down artist, or so-called "community organizer" in crime ridden Chicago. He has no leadership skills, no core beliefs except redistribution of wealth, hatred of small business and love of BIG Government. His greatest asset is the ability to read phony speeches from a Teleprompter. Yet, the MSM swooned when he spoke, and has never criticized him nor investigated any of the numerous scandals in his ...more
By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 8, 13 10:51 AM
Sexual Assaults Reportedly Rampant During Egypt Protests
Here is your real war on women HHS

I find it very disturbing that you still feel no need to denounce Jay Sears actions involving the pictures of locale children?

How do you sleep at night?
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 1:06 PM
highhatsize, Dan asked you how you sleep at night defending a creep like jay sears, i must admit i wondered the same thing. you must not have any children of your own to feel this way. i do not mean to insult you but it is very creepy
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 8, 13 2:49 PM
to Erin 27 E:

There is a legal maxim, "hard cases make bad law", meaning that "a particularly unpleasant case is a poor basis for a general law which would cover a wider range of less extreme cases." (Wikipedia) The Sears case is an example of the operation of that maxim. His objectively harmless behavior is criminalized under a law that was passed as a reaction to horrible examples of pedophelic rape.

Even so, the law would be perfectly okay if it didn't collide with Jay Sears ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 9, 13 12:46 AM
The good people of Egypt got an education when they took obamas lead and through out a stable government for these radical animals.This morning the Egyptian military had no choice but to opened fire on a crowd of unruly Muslim Brotherhood demonstrators who had staged a violent protest outside a military headquarters .

There is you Arab Spring fools!
By 27dan (1274), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 12:25 PM
Egypt is a righteous buffet for reactionaries. What with the contending parties therein being an unpalatable democratically elected government and a military dictatorship, nothing that the president does would save him from irrational extremist criticism. If he supports the democratically elected government, he's in favor of religious extremists; if he supports the military, he's in favor of dictatorship over democracy; and if he supports neither, he's not showing "leadership."

The puzzling ...more
By highhatsize (2473), East Quogue on Jul 8, 13 1:26 PM
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highhatsize, Talk about self righteous reactionaries, have you re read your Pius self affirming fairy tale.

By They call me (1279), southampton on Jul 8, 13 2:21 PM
The hat has no cop issues to discuss so he has jumped into the zoo. I really thought you were above that, dude. In this world here all time is spent saying "I know you are, but what am I?" Akin to school children in the playground.
By But I'm a blank! (992), Hampton Bays on Jul 9, 13 12:55 PM
< --- pssst. tcm, remember
Jul 8, 13 5:46 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
3 more weeks of peace and quite
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 8, 13 5:46 PM
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Read me at the NY Public Library Archives:

Retrospect of the Boston Tea Party with a Memoir of George R.T. Hewes, a Survivor of the Little Band of Patriots Who Drowned the Tea in Boston Harbor in 1773
Jul 9, 13 6:19 AM appended by Mr. Z
by George Robert Twelves Hewes
By Mr. Z (7123), North Sea on Jul 9, 13 6:19 AM
I wiil read it
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 9, 13 8:48 AM
Hey Un doc since you and Z are in a reading mood check this out

Who Is Racist?
By Thomas Sowell - July 9, 2013

I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

Apparently other Americans also recognize that the sources of racism are different today from what they were in the past. According to a recent Rasmussen poll, 31 percent of blacks think that most blacks are racists, while 24 percent of blacks think that most whites are ...more
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 9, 13 8:59 AM
interesting statistics joe i like the way he just presents the facts and lets the readers sort out what it means. to me it seems clear who needs to stop the finger pointing. just the facts right
By Erin 27 E (405), southampton on Jul 10, 13 12:17 AM
Read them both very interesting in different ways for sure. have to go do some volunteer work I got talked into for the day :) see you all later
By Undocumented Democrat (896), southampton on Jul 9, 13 12:09 PM
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Oh boy now look what you went and did U D...

I'm pretty sure you went and broke it this time
By joe hampton (2093), south hampton on Jul 9, 13 10:00 PM
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suburban propane, hamptons