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Bishop: Nation Missed Opportunity For Tighter Gun Regulations

Publication: The Southampton Press
By Erin McKinley   Jun 12, 2013 9:33 AM
Jun 12, 2013 10:55 AM
At a brief presentation to members of the Southampton Chamber of Commerce last week, U.S. Representative Tim Bishop expressed his concern that the country had missed an opportunity to enact reasonable gun control measures.

During the five-minute speech at the Lobster Grille Inn on Friday, which also covered topics like immigration and the budget, Mr. Bishop said the country needs to have stricter background checks in place to buy a gun. Following the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School last year, Mr. Bishop said, the Senate should have passed proposed regulations but failed to get the required 60 votes.

If it had passed, the gun regulations would have created a system of more intense background checks aimed at detecting buyers who are ineligible to own guns, including convicted criminals, illegal immigrants and the mentally unstable. The measure failed 54-46, six votes shy of the 60 needed to pass in the Senate and be sent to the House for consideration.

“That is deeply unfortunate,” he said. “We need to put in place a reasonable background check.”

Mr. Bishop said he is committed to keep trying, and hopes that stricter regulations will eventually be put in place. During the speech, he said he is going to keep lobbying the Senate to prevent future gun-related tragedies.

Also during the speech, Mr. Bishop said a focus in Washington right now is job creation, but that there are challenges. Everyone acknowledges that jobs need to be created, but it is difficult to do so while curbing spending, he said, adding that the country must adhere to three separate part of the budget—set by the House, the Senate and the president.

Mr. Bishop said the focus right now is to create programs that will help the country and not be a drain on any of the budgets.

“We have to be careful and put in place programs that will allow us to grow our economy,” he said. “We have some tough issues to try and work through, and I am hopeful that we can.”

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By goldenrod (505), southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:58 AM
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what nonsense. And such distrust of government that it's good that 38,000 Americans are killed every year so that you can flex yr rhetorical flourish that you, a true bliever, ardently pious, hold their right to life should not trump yr right to any lethal protection &/or thrilling sport. Bishop is completely right. We need gun safety for all Americans, including gun registration, tracking the manufacturing, design, distribution, sales and transfers of all their products--each and everyone--as it ...more
By mo (79), Sag Harbor on Jun 13, 13 1:58 PM
Oh, I bet an opportunity was missed alright.... Tim, FYI, the guns used at Sandy Hook were technically stolen. Nothing in the bill that failed to pass the democratic held senate would have prevented that. What really sunk the bill was distrust of government... that means distrust of YOU overstepping Constitutional authorities through government overreach in typical fashion as we're seeing in the current IRS scandal.

When you say universal background check, the first thing that comes in ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 12:05 PM
You don't know that. There has been no definitive conclusion on whether Lanza broke into his mother's gun safe and took her weapons, simply took them from an unsecured area, or if she actually bought at least some of them as gifts to him as a handwritten "gift certificate" seemed to indicate.

Only a paranoid mind would equate registration to confiscation. Clearly background checks as conducted today are inadequate when the criteria for their use hinges on the qualifications of the seller ...more
By VOS (540), WHB on Jun 12, 13 1:26 PM
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I never said Lanza broke into her safe or removed them from an unsecured area. But they were in fact stolen in the same fashion as taking someone’s car without permission is stolen. The point remains, the bill that died in the democratic held Senate would not have prevented a similar tragedy as Sandy Hook. Get acquainted with world history and the countries that have required registration of guns and what soon followed.

To answer your question, "How many of what you characterize ...more
Jun 12, 13 8:12 PM appended by Captn America
If you think we in the US are somehow immune from a potential collapse of society and civilian guns not at risk of being confiscated, you are seriously removed from reality and the economic condition of the country and its downside implications let alone the threat of natural or man made disasters and resulting and guaranteed break down of law and order.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:12 PM
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Patronizing, paranoia and poppycock; heavy on the paranoia. I prefer to look ahead, not over my shoulder. Have a nice life.
By VOS (540), WHB on Jun 13, 13 1:13 AM
Really? This in the news yesterday:
DHS Wants Equipment For “Riot Control Situations”
June 12, 2013
The Department of Homeland Security is purchasing hundreds of items of protective gear for its fleet of Federal Protective Service officers in order to prepare for “riot control situations,” increasing concerns that the federal agency is readying for domestic unrest.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 10:27 AM
what nonsense. And such distrust of government that it's good that 38,000 Americans are killed every year so that you can flex yr rhetorical flourish that you, a true bliever, ardently pious, hold their right to life should not trump yr right to any lethal protection &/or thrilling sport. Bishop is completely right. We need gun safety for all Americans, including gun registration, tracking the manufacturing, design, distribution, sales and transfers of all their products--each and everyone--as it ...more
By mo (79), Sag Harbor on Jun 13, 13 2:00 PM
In every country that has instituted national registration initiatives, it has later turned into gun confiscation. England, New Zealand, Australia, and almost in Canada. But Canada reversed its national gun registration policy as it had not reduced any gun violence or guns landing in the hands of criminals, New Zealand repealed its gun control registration as well.

But as the left insists, the government knows what's best for me, just look how well the IRS, NSA, ATF, DOJ, DHS, and many ...more
By ridiculous (212), hampton bays on Jun 13, 13 5:51 PM
And what are the rates of death by guns in those countries?
Since Sandy Hook, there have been about 5000+ gun deaths here in the US .
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 6:33 PM
No matter how liberals try to paint the gun debate and that they just want what they consider reasonble controls, their true color and agenda will always eventually come through.... BAN and CONFISCATE.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:14 PM

Strike up the fear, cappie.
It's the hallmark of the right.
It's all you got.
Ignorance and misinformation, based on your own opinions.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 4:01 PM
SPLAT.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 7:56 PM
Enforce the laws that already on the books and you would not need any new ones. Put criminals away for real time instead of plea dealing and good behavior early release. Statistics show these same criminals will likely strike again. And PLEASE stop political grandstanding on this issue! The Governor and anyone that voted for NYsafe Act needs to be removed next election because they failed to listen to their communities and Nation when they altered our rights regarding the 2nd Amendment. The Media ...more
By Common Scense (21), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 12:49 PM
Sandy hook was a hoax, I believe. People may have been killed, but "Adam Lanza" didn't have anything much to do with it. The lengths that government will go to secure an agenda are quite frightening.
By Lets go mets (76), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 2:03 PM
You really shouldn't post anymore.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 3:18 PM
A hoax?

They really do live among us, don't they?
By But I'm a blank! (633), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 13 3:17 PM
What was the reaction of the crowd when Tim said that the focus in Washington right now was job creation?
By KevinLuss (128), Detroit, Michigan on Jun 12, 13 2:28 PM
Here we go again.
The people) who want to shoot other Americans want more guns on the streets and more stand your ground laws.
I'm still waiting to be shown where I said that I want to take guns away from the police and everybody else.
It's been months,cappie- are you ever going to provide the quote?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 3:40 PM
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If you embrace the numbers to your policially expedient advantage without removing police shootings from the tally, then you by default embrace the circumstances.... police using them in defense of our communities, people using guns in defense of their personal protection - all bad in your mind based on your position.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 7:43 PM
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Nope.
Show us where I said what you keep telling everybody I said.
The quote, with the time stamp.
Or apologize for lying about it.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:16 PM
Nope, sometimes the biggest form of communication is what is NOT said. If you embrace it, own it.
Jun 12, 13 8:25 PM appended by Captn America
BTW, in case you haven't noticed, you keep telling everyone I said it. But psssst, that's our secret.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:25 PM
Show us where I aid it. With the date stamp and time.
You can't because you made it up.
You lied about it. You got so mad about being proven a liar that you posted pictures of my son in retaliation.
That's how unstable you are.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:31 PM
The numbers I quote are for gun deaths-that would be deaths caused by guns. Regardless of the circumstances, the people included in those numbers were killed by guns.Hence,gun deaths.
No asterisks. Just people killed by guns because of how easy it is to get them. Philathome " Feb 18, 13 9:32 PM

No asterisks. You have held police who carry out their duties to protect the public and victims who defended themselves in the same vain as criminals and the mentally disturbed. Some of which ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:19 PM
“Do unto others what you want done unto you.”

― Confucius
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:27 PM
All that shows is that I was counting all gun deaths.
I didn't say that we should take everyone's guns away.
Show us where I said that I wanted to take guns away from everybody.
You haven't done it. All you did was deflect.
I guess you'll be apologizing for lying then.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:34 PM
And I would never post pictures of your children regardless of what you said about me. I'm above that; but you don't have a problem stooping. Low is what anybody should expect from you.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:39 PM
You had done to you, what you did unto others.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:48 PM
More lies.
You Did it out of crazed vindictiveness
You didn't like the idea of me posting pictures of the six year old children shot to pieces by an assault rifle.
You didn't want dead children associated with your perverse love of guns.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:54 PM
Pervasive love of guns... crazed vindictiveness... got it. No I did not like you using poor Emilie as an avatar just days after the tragedy and especially when she had not even been laid to rest yet. I thought it was in exceptionally poor taste and extremely insensitive. Do unto others and the others didn't like it either.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:04 PM
You didn't give a rats ass about Emilie.
You didn't want your beloved guns connected to a heinous act.
You would do anything to prevent a connection between guns and those 20 dead kids.
You panicked because I put a face on the tragedy.
That was the last thing you wanted because it illustrated what guns will do and those who glorify them are afraid of the truth.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:13 PM
Geez Phil, you still holding onto the picture thing. Let it go.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 12, 13 10:35 PM
I cared enough about Emilie to call you out on using her picture as an avatar and nothing more than a political pawn before she was even laid to rest.

20 dead kids, shot by a disturbed person, and you're claiming I wanted to prevent a connection between guns and their murder... for real?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:49 PM
Exactly.
A review of the other thread shows that the biggest concern on the right was the threat to gun rights, not the deaths of children.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:54 PM
Exactly what? You used Emilie as nothing more than a political pawn before she was even laid to rest. 20 dead kids, shot by a disturbed person, and you're claiming I wanted to prevent a connection between guns and their murder?

By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 11:02 PM
Every time there's a shooting the gun lobby blames everything except the easy access to guns. You're 27 easts own Ted Nugent.

You're damn right I posted Emilies picture for impact.
To look at the faces of those kids and then dismiss any attempt to do anything about preventing similar attacks in the future demonstrates the indifference the gun lobby has for the welfare of anybody except the corporations that profit from that ignorance.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 5:40 AM
No one "dismissed" anything, including the gun lobby and "easy access" to guns is Constitutionally protected. Whether you like the options is an entirely different story. And so what if national and local companies provide discounts on everything from car rentals to identity theft protection when they get listed on the NRA’s site as corporate partners and can promote themselves as “NRA endorsed.” That's good business and good networking.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 9:20 AM
"Owned and operated by the NRA"
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 3:34 PM
I don't know what that refers to, but I'll assume it is some cryptic reference to them operating as a business..... which then begs the question, so?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:19 PM
We have the RIGHT to bear arms, PERIOD. The Obama regime is a glaring example as to why we need to be armed, and armed well.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 12, 13 5:41 PM
Another post that makes the case for mental health testing for gun owners
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 6:27 PM
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Agreed. I absolutely hate guns. However the agenda to disarm regular, good, decent citizens is very scary. We mustn't allow these people to be disarmed. I know my statement about the sandy hook shooting sounds crazy to most, however, I do not put anything past government. At the end of the day we must realize that we are slowly, but surely, having our freedoms dissipated.
By Lets go mets (76), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 7:33 PM
I don't hate guns; I think we need reasonable controls over the sales and ownership to prevent more tragic shootings like we saw at Sandy Hook.
We need to have mental health testing of anyone who wants to buy a gun, and from what we've seen here, it would also help if we did the same to gun owners as well, since every time theres a shooting they blame it on some crazy person. Those crazy people got their guns from somewhere, and they may have been lucid when they did.
We also need to control ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:46 PM
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Please tell us more about the hoax?
By But I'm a blank! (633), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 13 1:16 PM
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Oh please don't let him drag us all into this discussion again... We won, leave it at that. If you want to read Phil's nonsense you can read volumes of his anti gun propaganda at Sandy Hook Tragedy Is Felt At East End Schools - 27east

We Have A 2nd Amend. for a reason...End of story
Jun 12, 13 8:14 PM appended by joe hampton
He has not responded to anything and bailed 3 days ago at Nationwide Sequestration to try and come here to change the subjects at hand
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 12, 13 8:14 PM
Thanks for the plug.
Here's the link-
http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/East-End/448120/Sandy-Hook-Tragedy-Is-Felt-At-East-End-Schools?message=posted

And I didn't bail from anything-I leave that to cowards like you
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:27 PM
You people will change the subject to abortion as soon as you start losing the argument.
It's what you do all the time.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 8:36 PM
For the record, you just changed the subject to abortion..which may suggest by your logic, you're losing the argument. The fact that you changed the topic to abortion this time would also suggest "us people" don't do it ALL the time. Which might also suggest, "you people" do it sometimes too.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:41 PM
Wow, now you're reaching.
When I first posted about Sandy Hook, the first thing you people did was attack me with that.
No comments about the tragedy.
Nothing about the victims .
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:47 PM
Incorrect. In review, initial feedback was in reference to your statement that Lanza had the "right to bear arms".

"The guns were obtained legally,and Lanza had the right to bear arms through their availability in a home where they were kept legally.
They were not "stolen".He was taught how to handle them and had them around him for years.By buying the guns,the mother gave the son the right to bear arms. That's where we need to excercise some controls-accessibility by proxy."
...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:56 PM
Nope.
The first time I mentioned Sandy Hook was the night of the shooting.
I was instantly attacked for my support for women's rights.
It wasn't in the Sandy Hook Thread.
You're trying to confuse the issue. Try to focus.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:07 PM
Nope, you posted outside of topic and was then called out for taking the moral high ground which you have no right to, and you got called on it.... go figure.

But for someone who accuses others of caring more about politics than the tragedy, why did you then post an avatar of one of the murdered victims?

"You and UD obviously care about politics more than you care about what happened in Connecticut. A window into your soul."
By philathome (5415), Southampton on Dec 14, ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:33 PM
Haha, another "you people" post. How surprising.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 12, 13 10:36 PM
I posted the picture to make a connection to the tragedy.
In all the rhetoric the impact of the tragedy on the victims and the families was lost. We need to remember that the discussion is about preventing this from happening again, or minimizing its effects.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:42 PM
Well, you haven't distinguished yourself from any of the other nut jobs posting here. For all we know, your a clone.
In the clone car.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:44 PM
"I posted the picture to make a connection to the tragedy."

I get that. But the timing and use of a murdered victim as an avatar was in bad taste. Using her picture as an avatar only added to the rhetoric and the negative impact on the families.

Yes the discussion IS about preventing a similar tragedy from happening again, but the legislation Tim Bishop is criticizing for not being passed would not have prevented it, and I would suggest that nothing could prevent it given a ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 11:11 PM
How would tougher gun licensing have prevented the Newtown shooting?
By chief1 (1107), southampton on Jun 12, 13 9:56 PM
I never said it would- those are talking points directly from the NRA.
But requiring mental health testing and limiting magazine sizes may prevent or at least limit the next one.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:02 PM
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"During the speech, he (Tim Bishop) said he is going to keep lobbying the Senate to prevent future gun-related tragedies"

So Mr. Bishop, how would this legislation have prevented such a tragedy?

ANSWER: It wouldn't.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:15 PM
But you offer no solutions.
Just stone throwing.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:19 PM
But I thought we agreed on solutions?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:26 PM
We can discuss solutions tomorrow.
I'll review the other thread. I have to get some sack right now.
Good night, cap
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:35 PM
You've needed some "sack" for quite some time now.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 12, 13 10:37 PM
Do you have anything to contribute or are you just going to make small minded comments?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:46 PM
Let me recap Phil... I generally agreed with you on solutions as you/me have previously stated, i.e. enhancements to the mental health checks and system, but your subsequent positions on some elements and resulting unstated inferences to gun rights and the second amendment leave me with concern. When we ultimately came to common ground on solutions, you became irate when it became apparent that I didn't publicly communicate that, as if I had some obligation to do so.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 12, 13 10:59 PM
I contributed this earlier today you pulled an obama and said nothing.

Have to give Glenn Greenwald's decision to break a number of stories surrounding Obama's historic surveillance state points for consistency. This stuff infuriated Greenwald when Bush did it and he is just as infuriated today.
Can't say the same about for the rest of the media and Phil for that matter, Greenwald is recognizing among his left-wing media comrades. When it comes to a choice between principled consistency ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jun 13, 13 12:28 AM
TCM contributed this and you buried your head deeper into the sand and told everyone you were watching Spongebob. Really funny you turned off the news channels when your chickens came home to roost. time to fall back on the race card.

"So another round of investigations loom. We now add this sordid situation in Benghazi, the IRS, spying on reporters, and the possible spying on calls and e-mails made by American citizens. What's next? Breaking into a Washington hotel?

It's clear ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jun 13, 13 12:32 AM
There has been no connections made to the White House by the far right to any of the manufactured outrage they have frantically been ranting about.
It's all Fox News propaganda to cover the republicans who do nothing except obstruct and make crap up to hide the fact that they have done nothing for the last five years .
The republicans have thrown the American people under the bus in favor of politics.
Big surprise.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 5:47 AM
Why can't you people stay on topic?
ADHD ?
Or just no desire to actually contribute?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 5:58 AM
"All The Fits That's News to Print!"
By PBR (3990), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 6:06 AM
George W. Bush
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 8:32 AM
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Nope.

The correct answer is:

Franklin Pierce

George W. Bush is actually one of his direct descendants...
Jun 13, 13 8:08 PM appended by Mr. Z
For good measure, what about Warren Harding, the Teapot Dome, and the Ohio gang? Lunatics.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 13, 13 8:08 PM
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Bishops got to go. He's a traitor. The NY SAFE Act is unconstitutional and goes against our human rights. Congratulations Bishop you've made it to the "Do Not vote for" politicians list. A list of politicians who are against and who do not support the US Constitutions 2nd amendment. Your name, and others like you, will to be posted on Youtube to that affect for all to see.What part of "shall not be infringed" does he or others not understand. Background checks lead to confiscation. At his inauguration, ...more
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Jun 12, 13 11:08 PM
If it's unconstitutional, why does it stand?

And you do have evidence that Bishop is a traitor, correct?
Or is it just more over the top bloviating by one of our resident malcontents.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 11:18 AM
It "stands" because the challenge has just begun. The law is less than 6 months old.
By But I'm a blank! (633), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 13 3:20 PM
The nation missed an opportunity to get there rights stripped further away based on false flag attacks purportrated by a tyrannical govt. who are controlled by the elite. No doubt revolution is coming. Keep supporting the new world order agenda Tim. " the illegal we can do immediately, the unconstitutional takes a little longer " Henry Kissenger. Martial law is coming people. Quantitative easing will end soon and the markets will crash. There will be chaos. They are now allowed to use the ...more
By icecreamman (149), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:03 AM
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About 90% of the American people want stricter gun laws.
The NRA and the congress people who voted against it aren't representing the people.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 11:20 AM
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Tell that to Harry Reid. Your figure is way old Phil. A recent poll finds just 33 percent of Americans feel the “Senate should debate and vote on gun control legislation again,” while 62 percent want the Senate to “move on to other issues." This is the opportunity Tim makes reference to... the further Sandy Hook is in the rear view mirror, the more opinion normalizes away from the emotion of the tragedy.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:25 PM
I'm not talking about the senate.
As usual, you change the context of the statement to manipulate the conversation.

CBS News/New York Times Poll. May 31-June 4, 2013. N=1,022 adults nationwide. Margin of error ± 3.



"In general, do you think gun control laws should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?"


More strict Less strict Kept as
they are Unsure/
No answer
% % % %

5/31 ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:48 PM
CBS News/New York Times Polls are manipulated by their CEO's who are shills for, and bow to, the Bilderberg group and other UN small arms treaty and agenda21 advocates. This worked in China, Germany, Russia, India and the Congo where 100's of millions of people were slaughter all because they could not defend themselves against tyranny. In some cases their own gov't couldn't protect them. When the SHTF because of "the absence of lending standards" as written by award winner Peter Shiff, You'll ...more
By Johnny Nova (83), Northampton on Jun 13, 13 9:01 PM
Wrong and paranoid, all wrapped up in a neat little package.
Repeating the usual wingnuts argument copied from drudge or Alex jones or one of those websites.
As if we never heard it before.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 10:01 PM
No need to worry about PRISM. National Intelligence director James Clapper said the government was not collecting information on millions of Americans. Unless, of course, he LIED (quite "wittingly").
By loading... (234), quiogue on Jun 13, 13 10:08 PM
Your either one of them trying to sell the official story or you are severely in denial. Either way sheep like you will be the first ones at the fema camps. You forgot drudge report, the blaze.com, before it's news.com, natural news.com, architects and engineers against the official 9/11 story, dr. Judy wood and her amazing oresentation on direct energy weapons or dew's (fascinating), remember building 7. Org and countless other quacks out there who are all paranoid like me.
By icecreamman (149), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 2:13 AM
Put on your tin foil hat and be on the lookout for the black helicopters. Everybody is out to get you.

They're coming to take you away, ha ha
They're coming to take you away, hee hee
To the funny farm....

By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 4:47 AM
Your blind allegiance to a tyrannical govt and it's mainstream media machine is commendable. Your response indicates your level of intelligence or lack there of. It's people like you, and there insistence that anyone questioning the govt. must be unpatriotic, that is most sad. You can't possibly dispute the millions of patriotic Americans and alternative media who are telling the real story so you make jokes. This is all very funny, having our civil liberties stripped away. Anyone who questions ...more
By icecreamman (149), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 9:40 PM
Put on your tin foil hat.
Don't forget to staple it on.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 5:21 PM
great news sarah palin is back on fox news. both me and my husband love her. we've met her and she is the real deal. welcome back into my living room, Sarah.

By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jun 13, 13 4:54 PM
From reading your postings, she's about your speed.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 6:35 PM
I'd second that :)
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 7:19 PM
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your just mean phil
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jun 13, 13 8:49 PM
Yes Erin, mean spirited with way too much free time on his hands. Just about everyone on this board can have a rational discussion until he gets involved.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 13 10:10 PM
Is that why you and the rest of my fan club shows up as soon as I post a comment?
As usual, you show up to throw stones because you can't muster an original thought.
Another mindless contribution from you.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 10:14 PM
Don't exhaust your brain cell.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 10:15 PM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 13 2:33 PM
If you think I sound angry, you should go back and read your own posts.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 7:42 PM
Where did I say angry? There you go again stretching the truth. You are mediocre at twisting and spinning. Try a different tactic.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 15, 13 11:26 PM
Why are you so angry all of the time?
Why are you the one offended by everything?

Like I said, go back and read your own posts.
Maybe you should take an anger management class.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 4:30 AM
Thank you Phil for showing everyone just how transparent and simple you are. The "I'm rubber, your glue" argument is not only boring but very revealing of your intelligence. C'mon now phyllis, bounce it back.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 18, 13 7:53 PM

Why are you angry all the time?
Don't you get tired of looking foolish?
Any word about that anger management class yet?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:36 PM
I'm smart enough to keep you responding.
That makes me a lot smarter than you are.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:38 PM
You have 22 pages of posts.
Most of the last three pages are nothing more than personal attacks on me; hardly any of them are in response to the topics.
You're bitter and angry and show no interest in intelligent conversation. Anyone can look back at your posts and see it, just like I just did.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:50 PM
If after the massacre of the 20 6-year olds at the Sandy Hook Elementary School you can only think about your desire to own an automatic weapon with no questions asked, YOU ARE A BAD PERSON.
God help this great nation of ours.
By SHNative (535), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 8:49 PM
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You encapsulated their argument.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 13, 13 10:10 PM
If your information about automatic weapons registration is accurate, that is wonderful. We should now do the same thing with every semiautomatic weapon to make everyone owning one responsible for its use.

By VOS (540), WHB on Jun 14, 13 3:11 PM
VOS, everyone who owns a weapon IS responsible for its use and its transfer. Negligence and its implications, both legally and liably, doesn't stop just because it is a gun. It's no different than giving a drunk the keys to your car and the law treats it as such.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 7:53 PM
So where are all the prosecutions? Certainly those nefariously transferred weapons weren't all "stolen". Registering all as Preliator says automatics are would certainly aid in prosecuting those miscreants who rely on their "second amendment rights" to provide the cloak of darkness under which they operate.
By VOS (540), WHB on Jun 14, 13 10:07 PM
VOS, I can only summize by your postings on this subject that you're a little, misguided. Your very premise that weapons are transferred "nefariously" is untrue. The law is very clear on how to transfer weapons and who you can not transfer them to, both over the counter and person-to-person. And that's just the point. The vast VAST majority are within legal boundary and never used to commit a crime. There is no cloak of darkness, other than that of criminals who will find a way to get guns to ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:28 PM
I don't believe you're as dense as your posts would lead us to believe, Cap. When you and yours repeat that tired old saw "If guns are outlawed, only the outlaws will have guns" you acknowledge that there is a significant number of weapons in the hands of criminals. How did they get there? Virtually every gun in the US begins its life as a legally produced or imported weapon but far too many (one is too many) end up in the wrong hands whether through nefarious transfers or theft.

In ...more
By VOS (540), WHB on Jun 15, 13 3:13 AM
Since there is no gun registry, we don't know who the legal owners of guns are nor do we know who they're being legally transferred to.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 4:13 AM
Well, bad news for you two. The bill that failed in the Senate didn't cover background checks for all guns; it only added sales on the internet and at guns shows. Having purchased firearms both ways, I can tell you that a background check was conducted for both transfers.

There are a lot of "what if's" in your stolen gun scenario VOS - and not worth the time to Monday morning quarterback all the hypothetical’s. But I will say, whether the car is registered or not is inconsequential. ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 11:14 AM
I will add, I wouldn't be opposed to the requirement of a background check via an FFL for all purchases. But not the registration of every gun and transfer.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 11:16 AM
With the Hussein Regime in power, the population should be armed to deter a tyrant in training! That's what the 2nd ammendment is all about.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 14, 13 7:11 AM
Obama is putting together the Black Liberation army and the Black panthers to overtake the country as we speak. More ridiculous fear mongering from the bigoted far right. Still can't believe a black man was voted president in your little minded Archie Bunker world.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:03 AM
Obama has other plans in the works for "overtaking the country" through his fundamental transformation that he promised us, and his finger prints will be nowhere on the "crime" when it is done. His army of minions will carry it out on his behalf because Barack Milhous is accountable and responsible for nothing, forever in campaign mode pitting one group against the other. In 2003, Hillary Clinton screeched "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 12:53 PM
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Captain KKK speaks. Unfortunately all your opinions are based in bigotry,bias, and prejudice. I WANT YOU TO POST!!!! The more you post the quicker you Archie Bunker's will disappear as your posts speak for themselves. Should have read Anne Michands column in Newsday a couple of days ago, it fits you to a tee. Don't worry your spokesperson, Sarah Palin is back as the mouthpiece of the republican party on Fox news. Another great call by the conservatives. Who needs to speak, you do all your own damage.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 2:55 PM
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Just think if you put all your money into the market when Obama took office,you would be kissing his you know what. I really liked it better when our whole financial world was on the verge of ruination. Looks like business out here is really suffering too. Crying with a loaf of bread under each arm.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 3:00 PM
Maybe the republicans should help create jobs by voting for an infrastructure bill that will create jobs and keep bridges from falling into rivers.
They haven't helped create a single job. They've done nothing but obstructed for the last five years.
They sustain a war on women's health issues ( can anyone believe that they're still making STUPID comments about rape?), gay rights, immigration, voting rights, workers rights, healthcare (which the republicans have voted to repeal over 30 ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 3:45 PM
Ohhh, now I see where the Archie Bunker reference is coming from, KOKO knows how to imitate. Nice OPINION piece. Pssst... I did put my money in the market when the market tanked, Buy low sell high. Duuhhh. Pssst, I got out a few weeks ago.... Preliator nails the reason the market has been up, and it ain't the magic of the Mesiah. It's all a house of cards, like the housing bubble. It too will come crashing down. I guess quoting the very words of Barack Milhous and Hill are too much for some. ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 7:39 PM
America's highest court is preparing to announce its decision on the future of affirmative action.

The issue was brought to the Supreme Court by 22-year-old Abigail Fisher, who claims the University of Texas unfairly discriminated against her because she is white.

US colleges are currently allowed to take a candidate's colour into account when deciding who to admit - if it increases racial diversity on campus. But the Supreme Court ruling could change that.
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 14, 13 10:08 PM
It probably won't because the notion that discrimination no longer exists is only asserted by the far right, as demonstrated on this site.
Until you read their postings....
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 4:42 AM
The lesson here is to create your own luck and wealth. No republican or democrat is going to magically change your life. Overachieve and overwork I guarantee you will have the security and happiness in life in America.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 10:18 AM
If you don't win elections you can't appoint people to the Supreme court who will push your agenda through. If your agenda is not the will of the majority you will not succeed and that is America.

By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 10:23 AM
I started calling you Archie Bunker's year ago, she copied me.

By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 1:03 PM
Obamacare is an impediment to job creation-
Infrastructure jobs are temporary.and are nothing more than pay back for union votes
Obstructing the plans of a Marxist in the Whiite House is the righ tthing to do
Killing an unborn child isn't a woman's "health issue" Champ
Do you ever get tired of being wrong all the time?
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 14, 13 4:54 PM
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It's been the same song and dance from the right for the last few years.
We know what it's all about.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 7:10 PM
The republican party- the "Acme Woman Haters Club"
Gotta control those uppity women who think they have the right to make their own decisions.
Gottal keep those minorities from exercising their right to vote.
Gotta keep gays from marrying because it threatens their marriage.
I got news for you- if gays marrying is a threat to your marriage, you better take a better look at yourself.
Gotta keep people from having healthcare- it threatens their comfort.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 7:14 PM
SPLAT. The sound of crap hitting the wall.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 7:50 PM
Someday we'll let you out of that monkey cage.
.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 8:28 PM
Phil said "Gotta control those uppity women who think they have the right to make their own decisions"

<--- Think
Jun 14, 13 10:05 PM appended by They call me
never denounce the real culture of oppression of women. Right? No there cool and misunderstood
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:05 PM
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BHO's leadership style which in effect doesn't exist. The man is a bystander to his own presidency. Look at his reaction to the IRS, I am outraged to learn about the IRS scandal.' DOJ snooping on the AP and our own James Rosen. He says, 'I am deeply disturbed by this intrusion on to the press.
Even on Benghazi, he expresses his deep regret and then he says, 'I have to find out what happened.' He's the commander and chief, he's the president; he acts as if he has just stumbled upon the scene ...more
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:19 PM
Thank god its Friday I cant stand to watch this circus anymore
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:21 PM
Your right TCM it seems the progressives would rather side with sharia law then uphold the U.S. constitution and our Republic
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jun 14, 13 11:48 PM
Looks like you have plenty of company in there.
Don't forget to wash up when you're done.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 4:40 AM
I think this would solve BF's moral conundrum:

How Not To Be A Dad: The Latest Science Of Male Birth Control

Examining 8 promising methods of male contraception in development. Happy Father's Day!


Jun 16, 13 11:45 AM appended by Mr. Z
Most promising: RISUG
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 16, 13 11:45 AM
Six months today since the shootings at Sandy Hook.
over 5000 people killed by guns.
Not enough for them.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 14, 13 8:31 PM
It's been 4294 days since the 9-11 tragedy!

Have you forgotten?

The attacks began with the hijacking of four commercial airliners departing from East Coast airports, fueled for flights to California. With jet fuel capacities of nearly 24,000 U.S. gallons (91,000 liters) or 144,000 pounds (65,455 kilograms), each aircraft effectively became an incendiary guided missile.

American Airlines Flight 11, a Boeing 767-223, wide-body aircraft crashed into the north side of the ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 14, 13 10:01 PM
I have not. And until more main stream Muslims publicly denounce the extremists among them no one will
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 14, 13 10:10 PM
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Thanks Darryl Worley, and his brother Daryl, and his other brother Darrell.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 15, 13 2:13 AM
What does 9/11 have to do with this discussion?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 4:23 AM
What do you suppose Pelosi would say if someone told her there were 200 Sandy Hook massacres committed today? That would be 4,000 dead!

Of course, she'd be SHOCKED! We all would!

And what if this level of carnage took place EVERY DAY--day after day, week after week, month after month, year after year?

Do you think she'd be upset? Do you think she'd be in favor of calling out the National Guard quickly to have it stopped?

You bet she would--yet 200 Sandy Hooks ...more
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 12:03 AM
Back to the fallback position- bring up abortion. You people do the same thing every time. Change the subject, don't contribute to the conversation, just beat that dead horse.
Don't have anything to contribute to the conversation?
Put on your little black dress. Bring up abortion.
The equivalent of the 9/11 attacks are killed by guns in the last six months- but that doesn't warrant being addressed.
Live babies equal dead gun victims later.
Are you afraid that you'll run out ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 4:32 AM
But you're not a bigot.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 7:47 PM
You made a bigoted statement and I called you on it.
By singling out Hispanics, you showed your racism.
Most of you people are smart enough not to do that so blatantly; you aren't one of them.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 4:36 AM
Phil said "Are you afraid that you'll run out ...more of targets.

wow,



By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 8:45 AM
Well, if the second amendment gun nuts take up arms against the government, they will most likely be shooting American soldiers.

By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 9:00 AM
what makes you think the soldiers would fire on americans while our corrupt media has done its best to turn the page on BHO's myriad of scandals, the deep-dive numbers in the polls are absolutely devastating for the president. These numbers also reflect what we are seeing in Obama's overall approval ratings . and the media as well as you are willfully ignoring reporting on both.

Thanks for playing, I am going to the golf coarse good day
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 9:10 AM
he is still ignoring it dan,notice he gave mr z a thumbs up after you outted him for ignoring the polls and he stayed silent on the subject.
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jun 16, 13 4:34 PM
Whatever the numbers are, WHO CARES, he still is the president till 2016. Come back in February 2016 and you could start playing again. You'll put Rubio up as the latino answer for their votes,while he is busy reneging on immigration reform.You will lose again. Maybe you should start playing again in 2020. Or maybe you will just become extinct.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 11:15 AM
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The only nut on here is you, violence is not the answer. Patriotic americans would be slaughtered not by American troops but by U.N peacekeepers who are stationed all over the country and continually being flown in daily by the thousands. They are not American soldiers, they are U.N mercenaries in blue uniform's. Anyone who still thinks this is a democrat/ republican or left/right issue is asleep or in denial. We are on the verge of societal collapse being purportrated by the evil elite. Martial ...more
By icecreamman (149), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 10:58 PM
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By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 15, 13 6:54 AM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 15, 13 7:19 AM
And now for something really different:

Everything is Rigged, Vol. 9,713: This Time, It's Currencies


Keep battling over circus shows, all the while point shaving, coin shaving, and the fix being in bleeds the people dry.

"Teach a man to fish, and he will eat for life. Society is built on individual responsibility, and access to opportunity. A "Republican" will then slash fishing education, vilify teachers, reward corporate fisheries, and gut regulations protecting ...more
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 16, 13 11:35 AM
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Teach a man to fish and he will eat for life.
Society is built on an individual responsibility and access to opportunity. Liberals will then make men dependent upon gov't for access to fish,vilify the more successful fishermen, reward the lazy fishermen by stealing from the successful,make up restrictive nonsensical fishing regulations for the "greater good"
all the while claiming that theyre no socialists
Jun 16, 13 3:47 PM appended by Captn America
~ Equally Anonymous
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 16, 13 3:47 PM
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Yep, we don't need regulations. That way there are no rules to be disobeyed when factories explode from a lack of oversight, and the ocean reefs are pushing up daisies from ocean acidification via carbon emissions. If this species survives beyond the next 200 years, I will be VERY surprised.

Coral decline threatens fish biodiversity in marine reserves

Geoffrey P. Jones *, Mark I. McCormick, Maya Srinivasan, and Janelle V. Eagle

Author Affiliations:
Edited by Robert ...more
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 16, 13 6:33 PM
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And there's less than an inch of top soil left.... Who said we don't need regulations? What we don't need is "restrictive nonsensical fishing regulations."
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 9:42 AM
But we can count on the fertilizer you spread to enrich the soiled brains of the right wing.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 4:26 PM
Very constructive.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 1:56 PM
Doctors are dumping health insurance plans, and say they can charge patients less

More and more physicians say they make the same income and offer better quality care to there patients after dumping all health insurance companies.

They say after years of dealing with the red tape of health insurance companies and the high overhead for the staff they hired just to deal with paperwork, they switched to a system of charging there patients a monthly fee plus the price of an office ...more
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 16, 13 4:23 PM
That's why they bill the insurance companies three times the amount the insurance companies actually allow. What are you going to tell me next, there are price boards in doctor's offices so you can compare prices.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 8:31 AM
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Mets fan, you can bill ins companies anything you want. They have set fees to pay the dr.Period. I know this as fact, I work in a doctors office doing the billing. Insurance companies set all payments for doctors, hospitals and facilities. No way around it.
By squeaky (246), hampton bays on Jun 18, 13 9:01 AM
It doesn't stop doctors from trying to get more every chance they get. I've never seen a bill that what the doctor billed was the same the insurance company allowed.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 11:49 AM
because you know nothing about billing....a doctor can bill anything they want! Insurance companys only pay what that doctor has contracted with them to recieve. Medicare fees are different, Medicare pays what they will pay, never more and almost always less or not at all. This will matter when doctors stop taking insurance and you need to go to Stony Brook or farther just for a visit to your PCP.
By squeaky (246), hampton bays on Jun 18, 13 1:47 PM
Your missing the point of an earlier post.
However, why don't they submit a bill to the insurance company with the amount they already know is the allowable amount. The answer is they are trying to get more money for their services or why else would they bill three times the allowable amount. Plastic surgeon billed $6500 for stitures for a cut, allowable amount $2500, WHY?
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:46 PM
not really missing the poimt...an office or faciility can bill anything they want but will NEVER get anything more. Its always less. I still dont know how Medicaid fraud can happen unless they bill for visits that never happen and believe me, its not worth the paper work. $5.00 a day for ICU stay is just not worth the trouble. Its a huge mess, and when Govt gets their hands on this its gonna be even worse. They have yet to prove they can do anything right.
By squeaky (246), hampton bays on Jun 19, 13 9:39 AM
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If they never get anything more, WHY are they billing more than they know is allowable?
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 22, 13 2:21 PM
I did not think Obama's Father's Day Message was a fitting one : It's Hard Being a Single Mom or Gay Dad....After all its not Single mothers day!

So happy Fathers day to the rest of you...
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 16, 13 4:28 PM
I wonder if anyone is familiar with another deadly weapon, it's called a motor vehicle. Yet, to protect society at large and simultaneously allow citizens freedom and independence to move about just ONE of the MANY laws we employ to increase the probability that it will be a safe experience, is by way of car registration. This is not the sole responsibility required of all vehicle owners, but one of many and does not seem to be overburdensom or excessive government control. Last I checked this practice ...more
By iendeduphere (2), Southampton on Jun 17, 13 11:03 PM
BRIT HUME: President Obama's handling of the deteriorating situation in Syria follows a pattern traceable through much of his political career. When the issues are difficult and the options unappetizing, he tends simply to go away.

Recall his history of voting present in the Illinois legislature. But when you're president you can't simply vote present.

Eventually, you have to decide. So he often decides but says as little about it as possible. His decision to send small arms to ...more
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 12:00 AM
Beat that war drum, Danny boy.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 6:09 AM
Send your kid to Syria
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 11:53 AM
The far right has a talent for dramatizing every issue in their desperation to attack the president and his policies.
The party of drama queens.
Must be hell having your hair on fire all the time, huh Dan?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 6:02 AM
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The SCOTUS has rejected the Arizona "papers please" law, 7-2.
Justice Roberts and Justice Scalia voted with the liberal judges in striking it down.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 6:06 AM
Que bueno, vote aqui! Heaven forbid you should have to demonstrate citizenship when opting for motor voter, aka registering to vote, when checking a box attesting to citizenship is so much easier (for fraud). So to recap, no ID when voting... no proof of citizenship required when registering to vote. No checks and balances in the voting process. HOORAY, the left is ecstatic, time to celebrate!!!
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:23 AM
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it truly is disgusting
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 9:47 AM
Apparently the SCOTUS interprets the constitution differently than you do.
That's a good thing.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 9:57 AM
Voter fraud is a myth created to justify discrimination by the far right.
End of story .
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 10:14 AM
A simple google search with provide plenty of examples of voter fraud and even a few examples of elections being stolen. It is a “victimless crime” with dead people and dogs voting, and the government has a vested interest in maintaining public trust and confidence which means it is to their advantage not to cause public concern. There have been a few wide scale investigations that have taken place that have proven fraud exists as well as countless ‘irregularities.” Done ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:24 PM
Voter fraud is not a problem that affects the outcomes of elections.
The right is afraid of fair elections, that's why they fabricate stories of widespread voter fraud.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 7:12 PM
Tell that to Nixon in the 1960 election. It coined the phrase "he stole it fair and square" and it was only in 2000 that the left and right BOTH wanted to increase the integrity of the electoral/voting process. With the re-election in 2004 and a W win, the left decided to take a different approach which has included: loosening standards, flooding the electoral process, over-voting, dead voters, mystery voters, disqualifying military ballots, illegal felony voting, illegal aliens, vote buying, phantom ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 11:47 AM
History will show that the republican party spent all their energy trying to disenfranchise minority voters in the 2012 election.
we know why.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:19 PM
Voter fraud is a myth.
More manufactured outrage.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 8:49 AM
Some might say voter fraud is a myth, I say, but how would we know? The federal government won't allow states to verify citizenship when getting a driver's license, only the check a box is needed to affirm citizenship, and they can vote. There is no verification process and they can just show up and vote.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:01 PM
How many convictions for voter fraud in the last ten years?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:23 PM
How many who registered through Motor Voter were illegal?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:30 PM
Out of the 197 million votes cast for federal candidates between 2002 and 2005, only 40 voters were indicted for voter fraud, according to a Department of Justice study outlined during a 2006 Congressional hearing. Only 26 of those cases, or about .00000013 percent of the votes cast, resulted in convictions or guilty pleas.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:30 PM
How many who registered through Motor Voter were illegal?

No one knows.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:38 PM
So given the SCOTUS decision, how do you presume motor voter registration will not end up in illegal aliens voting? Or - are you OK with illegal aliens voting? And what can be done to protect the integrity of the vote while absolutely minimizing disenfranchisement of legal citizens?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:42 PM
Another question you won't answer.
How many convictions?
The Bush administration gave up looking because it was non existent.
Just more manufactured outrage from the hair on fire right.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:45 PM
Voter fraud is just another made up issue.
Desperation on the right.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 1:49 PM
Cappie wants to restrict voting rights because brown people might vote democrat.
Since the republican party is doing all it can to alienate everyone except old white men.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 3:49 PM
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I don't answer questions off topic. You posted about the SCOTUS decision, so here we are playa', my questions stand... you can peacock and deflect all you want, disenfranchisment is ok in your book apparently.

How do we ensure illegals don't register to vote through Motor Voter?
How can we protect the integrity of the vote while minimizing disenfranchisement of legal citizenns?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 5:22 PM
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As usual your the one deflecting. Yes, I posted about the SCOTUS decision, and you engaged. Now you're saying that illegals will vote.
Show proof that it has happened or stop manufacturing outrage about something that hasn't happened.
You're stirring up fear as a way to justify restricting voting rights.
You want to restrict voting rights, not maintain or expand them.
We have enough safeguards in place because voter fraud has not been a problem. Your making things up to whip up the ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 6:55 PM
'We have enough safeguards in place"

Name them.

Fact is, voter fraud does take place.

By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 8:45 AM
I never said it didn't.
What I did say is that it isn't the problem the hair on fire crowd is trying to make it out to be.
Tha fact that there are so few cases is proof that the present system works without introducing discriminatory policies the far radical right wants.
We know who you want to prevent from voting and why.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 8:56 AM
"We know who you want to prevent from voting and why."

Non-citizens, because they are not entitled to it? The real question is, why do you want non-citizens to vote and why?


By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 12:56 PM
Very few non citizens vote- like I said, the issue is another red herring to distract from the fact that the republicans have made no legislative contributions in years.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 4:22 PM
Ohh, "very few"..... "Very few" crimes are committed using semi-automatic rifles too...

Still waiting to hear more about the voter fraud safe guards you profess.

Republicans have made legislative contributions, however, it mostly takes approval or some consensus by both the house and senate, and as you know, the two don't really see eye to eye these days.... which is a good thing because it has mitigated damage to the country. So let's call it for what it is... Congress has done ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:04 PM
If you want to know about them, stop being lazy, take some personal initiative, and look them up. show some personal responsibility for your own education.
Voter ID laws are just another issue the right is using to attack minorities.

I'm tired of wasting bandwidth on you.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:49 PM
From Think Progress-


Surprise Move by Conservative Justice Boosts Voter Rights
We are down to the final two weeks of the Supreme Court’s term, which means all of the most important rulings of the term will come down over the next few days. The most hotly anticipated rulings in cases regarding marriage equality, the Voting Rights Act, and affirmative action in higher education are yet to come, but voting rights advocates received a pleasant surprise this morning from one of ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:17 AM

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Jun 17, 2013 | By
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Surprise Move by Conservative Justice Boosts Voter Rights
We are down to the final two weeks of the Supreme Court’s term, which means all of the most important rulings of the term will come down over the next few days. The most hotly anticipated rulings in cases regarding marriage equality, the Voting Rights Act, and affirmative ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:30 AM
The SCOTUS merely upheld federal goverment supremacy over state rights given the close nexus on the issue to citizenship and states desire to verify citizenship This is consistent with other rulings and not at all a surprise.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 11:31 AM
The Wrecking Crew: How Conservatives Rule
by Thomas Frank


Casting back to the early days of the conservative revolution, Frank describes the rise of a ruling coalition dedicated to dismantling government. But rather than cutting down the big government they claim to hate, conservatives have simply sold it off, deregulating some industries, defunding others, but always turning public policy into a private-sector bidding war.

Washington itself has been remade into a golden ...more
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 18, 13 6:47 PM
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Bank of America whistle-blower’s bombshell: “We were told to lie”

Bombshell: Bank of America whistle-blowers detail horrid schemes to fleece borrowers, reward foreclosures (UPDATED)
By David Dayen
Jun 18, 13 7:12 PM appended by Mr. Z
Check out the full Bank of America whistleblower details (affidavits) Read former staff describe getting Target gift cards as a prize for foreclosing on people, and other awful schemes
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 18, 13 7:12 PM
Looks like Elijah Cummins has shown Issa that his witch hunt is nothing more than that. No connection to the White House; the entire "scandal" was borne of a lie- it was all started by a conservative republican.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 18, 13 7:31 PM
Uh oh, this isn’t going to play well with the party of the KKK, Jim Crow and slavery.

“A state senator in Louisiana explains in a new video why he switched to the Republican Party, arguing that the GOP should be the new home for African-Americans like him.

In the video, state Sen. Elbert Guillory says Democrats use social programs like welfare and food stamps to monopolize the black vote. He urges them to “please join with me today in abandoning the government ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 8:53 AM
Sounds like he wants African Americans to join the party of Jim Crowe.
That would be today's Republican Party, of course.
Everyone knows that- that's why AA's vote democrat in huge numbers.
Even a bigot like you should know that.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 9:05 AM
The Democratic Party didn't found the KKK.
As usual you fabricate your own stories and pass it off as fact.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 9:37 AM
No one said that the Democratic party founded the KKK. The KKK was founded by members OF the Democratic party. This is fact.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 12:59 PM
Another fact is that the present Republican Party is much more involved in suppressing minorities.
Look up the Southern Strategy.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 4:06 PM
Another fact is that the present Republican Party is much more involved in suppressing minorities.
Look up the Southern Strategy.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 4:06 PM
And...? the 1960's is far from present day. Current day speaks more to the nature of both parties, and the fact is Elbert Guillory nails the democrat strategy circa 2013. “But the left is only concerned with one thing: control. And they disguise this control as charity. Programs such as welfare, food stamps — these programs aren’t designed to lift black Americans out of poverty. They were always intended as a mechanism for politicians to control the black community. The idea ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:15 PM
Guillory switched from republican to democrat in 2007 because he was running in a heavily democratic district.

Up until 2007, Guillory was a registered Republican and served on the Republican state central committee.[5][6] He became a Democrat in 2007 when he first ran for the state House of Representatives in the heavily Democratic District 40.[7][5] During the 2013 regular session of the Louisiana Legislature, Guillory switched his party affiliation back to Republican.[8] Officially, ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:43 PM
It figures you'd oppose the first black Republican state senator in Louisiana since Reconstruction.

What does the left do immediately after criticizing republicans about "their racism" and lack of minority candidates, attack and criticize the minority republican.


By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 10:30 AM
I don't support him because he parrots right wing talking points and supports the republican agenda.

Unlike the right who repeatedly calls Obama "Boy" and attacks him for every issue.
Want to see a hippocrate?
Look in a mirror.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:16 PM
Obama is not supported because he parrots left wing talking points and supports the liberal agenda. The left repeatedley refers to black republicans in a racially offensive manner. Mia Love's Wikipedia page was edited to include ugly, racist insults. Her website was vandalized with a racial epithet and even a derogatory term toward women. I've never called Obama "boy", I've referred to him as your boy given the endearing manner you hold him in. Big difference. It's alot like Obama referring to ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 1:55 PM
Typical left wing racism on parade here. Only big government can take care of the minorities, God knows they can't do it themselves, gotta have the govt, paying the way. Disgusting.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 19, 13 3:46 PM
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You see- that's a racist statement.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 3:59 PM
You see - it's parroting the democratic philospohy, and yes, it is racist.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:17 PM
Racist statement-

"Typical left wing racism on parade here. Only big government can take care of the minorities, God knows they can't do it themselves..."

By bigfresh (827), north sea on Jun 19, 13 3:46 PM

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27dan

Racists.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:24 PM
Yes the democrats are. They are the Party of disappointment to the black communities, abandoning the values many African Americans embrace. I can't think of anything more despicable than deliberately institutionalizing poverty to create a dependent voter base.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 11:01 AM
I can.
Abandoning people in need for tax breaks for the rich.
It's the republican way- abandon Americans to support those who have more.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:13 PM
If that's the case, democrats should have been pushing for tax reform when they have the chance to do so. But given that we borrow 46 cents of every dollar spent, no one is being abandoned since those "tax breaks to the rich" don't even play into the equation; we just borrow more.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 1:39 PM
Racist as always big fresh. Today's republicans should use the ideals of the first republican nominee John Fremont in 1856. He heeded his in-laws the Bent family of Missouri, who war fierce abolitionists. John Fremont wanted to abolish slavery in the first constitution of California during our manifest destiny years. The federal government wasn't ready for such progressive thinking. Lincoln picked up where Fremont left off and the south voted democrat till the republicans of today took over. Even ...more
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:14 PM
to hell with that
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:19 PM
"Even african-americans abandoned the party of Lincoln."

I guess, except for Barack Milhouse who delusionally wrapped himself in Lincoln-ish stature during his presidential campaign announcement back in February 2007, he did it in front of the old Springfield, Ill., statehouse in a speech full of references to Abraham Lincoln. Going after and distorting the legacy of Lincoln, Barack Milhouse and his liberal ilk sought to use one of the most beloved figures in American history to bless ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 5:47 PM
As usual,that's all you got. Read history and make some opinions based on facts not your usual bias, prejudice and hatred. Which is why the party is going to die.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:20 PM
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Yes, let's recap history and your own words. It was the democrats who almost sunk the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It was only with overwhelming republican support that it was passed, with the great democrat and former KKK member filibustering for 14 hours and 13 minutes.

Democrats had a historically large majority in the House of Representatives with 259 members to 176 Republicans. The final vote was 290 for the bill and 130 against. Of the “yea” votes, 152 were Democrats ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 11:18 AM
But things have changed since then and now it's the republicans who oppose civil rights.
Anti-gay
anti-woman
anti-immigrant
anti-labor
anti-voting rights
anti-recovery
anti-jobs
anti-poor
The farm bill went down today; the demorats voted against it because it would reduce SNAP support (food stamps) to millions of poor.
The republicans who voted against it did so because it didn't go far enough and they don't care about the poor and want to eliminate the program ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:56 PM
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Republicans far and wide appreciate your concern for the future success of the party. Things have changed alright, but it's the democrat party shifting to the radical left. They will do anything to secure political power, even if it is at the cost to the country. Here’s a few anti’s exemplifying the left.

Anti-values
Anti-male
Anti-rule of law
Anti-legal immigration
Pro-illegal amnesty
Anti-right to work
Pro-poverty
Anti-compromise
Anti-country
Anti-poor, ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 6:03 PM
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By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:24 PM
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Your comment is typical of the agitprop practiced by the left. pew some comment with the objective of making conservatives and/or republicans to appear to be racist or unreasoning all the while embracing a party that willing works to institutionalize poverty in black communities to build a voter base. That my friend is UGLY.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 11:27 AM
We don't have to resort to agitprop to make the republcans look racist.
All we have to do is note that they are attacking voting rights in a way as to restrict blacks from voting, draw attention to comments like "they have to depend on government because they can't make it on their own", and point to the probable demie of an immigration bill because they haven't learned that their rhetoric toward minorities hasn't changed.
The right has demonstrated their disdain for minorities as well as ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 2:10 PM
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Are the immigrant latinos also part of your institutionalized poverty program the left has schemed to get their votes as well. Fantasyland. As someone who grew up blue collar and conservative, it took my later years to see the conservatives around me as bigoted,biased and prejudiced. This solely based on their words confiding in me thinking I was still one of their compadres. Fearful their white power was eroding.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 8:30 AM

March 18, 2013, 12:11 pm200 Comments

Race and Republican Politics

By ANDREW ROSENTHAL


The Republican Party released a report today that attempts to explain why the G.O.P. keeps alienating large chunks of the American electorate. We’ll have lots to say about the report on our editorial page, but I wanted to separately address the issue of race.

When I write about race and politics, some readers accuse me of viewing all Republicans as racists. I’ve ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 6:27 PM
Tea Party Rally May Have Drawn Bigger Crowd than Obama Speech in Berlin

When Barack Obama gave a speech in Berlin in 2008, he drew a crowd of 200,000. Wednesday's speech at Berlin's Brandenburg Gate was a little less popular. White House pool reporter Elmar Jakobs estimated the crowd at only 4,500 nuts.
Jun 19, 13 10:06 PM appended by 27dan
President Obama's honeymoon with the world is over.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 10:06 PM
You forgot to mention that his speech was by invitation only.
Nothing like selective reporting- in other words, lying about it.
Just more of the same from the teabagger party.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 11:10 PM
Funny how "teabaggers" are authorities on "nuts"
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 19, 13 11:12 PM
by invitation only THATS B.S.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 12:00 AM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 5:50 AM
By invitation.
Look it up.
As usual, you lie.
No surprise there.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:27 AM
This time around the longest lines here at the Brandenburg Gate are those for water — it’s hot, almost 90 degrees. Where 200,000 came out to see Obama speak in 2008, today’s audience will be just 4,000 — invitations doled out by the German government to students and various political figures.

You should learn to tell the whole story, not just what you choose to.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:31 AM
4,500 by invite only, and he speaks behind a wall of bullet proof glass. Kind of ironic, speaking behind walls of glass, at the place where Reagan and JFK made such great speeches for the wall to come down... With the pesky teleprompter snafu, Barack Milhous seemed lost at times in his delivery, in 86 degree "sweltering" heat.

It would have been embarrssing I would imagine to open it to the public, and only 4,500 show up as Barack Milhous has been tarnished in the eyes of many Eurpopeans ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 10:51 AM
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All we have to do is read all the hateful rhetoric from you and the rest of the radical right to know why he speaks behind bullet proof glass.
He has reason to worry with unstable nut jobs who make statements like we see here on the loose.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 1:26 PM
The Millennials Sour on Obama
His job approval among people under age 30 dropped 17 points over the past month.

How does this all reflect on the Obama presidency? The NSA surveillance debate, while contentious, is just one of the president's problems. The administration's overall aimlessness, combined with a trio of scandals and spreading unrest in the Middle East and elsewhere, are taking their toll.

The president's overall job approval in the June 13 CNN/ORC poll is 45% approve, ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:36 PM

The republicans are viewed as

"the ‘closed-minded, racist, rigid, old-fashioned" party

that from their own college republicans.

and they're correct.
We can see it from the right on this site.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:04 PM
Phil, you old broken record. Try posting something original. And please resist the urge to cut and paste.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 13 8:26 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 8:37 PM
Facts? Yeah right.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 13 10:08 PM
Getting under your thin skin Phyllis?
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 20, 13 10:09 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 8:58 AM

Going for a fourth page of personal attacks I see.
Do you have anything to contribute to the conversation, or are you just here to show that all you can do is throw stones?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 9:04 PM
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By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 24, 13 11:04 PM
Another personal attack?
When was the last time you actually contributed
to a conversation ?
And you wonder why I call you my fan club.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 5:57 AM
I don't know as my "contributions" keep getting the axe.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 25, 13 9:03 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 5:52 AM
Glad to see that you agree that the left's treatment of minorities is racist and bigotted! My quote is an example of the typical liberal policy of race relations. So simple even a Marxist can understand it! Off to tend to one of the premier properties in our fair village, God bless the billionaires!!!!!
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 20, 13 7:04 AM
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I don't.
But that doesn't stop you from lying about it, does it?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:33 AM
Senator Mitch "Filibuster" McConnell:

On the very day debate began on a bill to repeal subsidies to Big Oil, an astonishing $131,500 in campaign contributions passed from the hands of oil donors in Midland, Texas into Mitch McConnell’s re-election war chest. Three days later the bill failed by filibuster.

•Companies that lobbied against bringing jobs back to America and ending tax breaks for offshoring have given McConnell one million dollars to win his elections and ...more
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 6:07 PM
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By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 20, 13 6:26 PM
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Jun 20, 13 6:41 PM appended by Mr. Z
And FYI, after adjustment for inflation the Dow is pure b******t. Here comes the next bubble...
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 6:41 PM
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By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 6:41 PM
Farm Bill Fails In House
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 20, 13 7:01 PM
just posted about it above.
and why it failed.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:05 PM
House Rejects Farm Bill as Food Stamp Cuts Prove Divisive

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WASHINGTON — Opposition by Democrats who rejected huge cuts in the food stamp program and Republicans who viewed farm spending programs as overly generous led to the defeat of the House farm bill on Thursday, raising questions about financing for ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 7:09 PM
Funny, the Washington Post has a different perspective... House Republicans block bloated Farm Bill, but the details indicate BOTH parties had a hand in it. Don't get me wrong, Boehner is an idiot, but there is always two sides to the story...

House defeats farm bill in surprise move

A broad five-year farm bill went down to a surprise defeat in the House on Thursday when Republican conservatives revolted against the legislation, arguing that it would cost too much, while Democrats ...more
Jun 21, 13 10:16 AM appended by Captn America
Like I've said, there is only one group in Washington who has a clue, and it's the Tea Party and NOT the SPEND SPEND SPEND democrats and NOT the don't know my *ss from my elbow a stones throw from being democrat republicans.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 10:16 AM
The tea party is a bunch of a- holes.
Everybody knows it
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 11:16 AM
The a-holes you describe is the Washington business as usual crowd, which the Tea Party is not.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 22, 13 3:38 PM
The tea party is a-holes in a class by themselves.
We remember the pictures of Obama dressed as a witch doctor, Hitler, watermelons on the White House Lawn, the claims that he was a Kenyan, the birther claims, the name calling and all the rest that took place at tea party rallies.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:58 AM
I too remember the pictures... W being hung, pictures of republicans with Hitler moustaches, and on and on I can go highlighting similar examples. Try going to Tea Party rally sometime.... you won't see those things, and if you do, it is the nut job extremists. Having also been to democrat rally's, that sort of thing is VERY mainstream and woven into the heart of the demonstration and message.

Not all who post the things you mention are Tea Party.... but all who post the things I note ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:19 AM
Not at giant rallies headed by democratic leaders or media people.
The tea party is running the republican asylum now. Any reasonable republicans have been purged.

By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:26 AM
Yes, at national rally's on the Washington Mall... here is one example, search, Signs at Stewart/Colbert rally show Republicans with Hitler mustaches... both main parties do it at times, and anything like that at national tea Party events is the rarity, come on....

The Tea Party and republicans are actually at odds. Republicans are too busy being like democrats these days. The Tea Party is the only thing that separates the nuts from the berry'ies.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:40 AM
Stuart/ Colbert rally wasn't billed as a partisan event.
Thanks for playing.

The Heritage foundation issued that letter a few weeks ago that advised republicans to do everything they can to distract from the divide in their ranks, do nothing legislatively and focus on imagined Presidential scandals.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 11:20 AM
It doesn't matter whether it was a sanctioned event or not. Knuckleheads show up in public and do what they do - on every side of the political spectrum. Don't play it off like it's only one party being the knuckleheads.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 5:31 PM
There's a big difference between an event being sanctioned by the tea party, which is a politically active organization, and a couple of comedians from Comedy Central.
Don't make it sound like a politically extreme organization like the tea party doesn't encourage the kind of rhetoric we see at their rallies.
They do.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 5:37 PM
The Tea Party certainly does not sanction those acts and the Tea Party is not politically extreme, that is your extreme opinion of the Tea Party and a regurgitation of what you've read and seen on leftist websites.

You apparently think minimal government, balanced budgets eliminate deficit spending and debt and abiding by the Constitution are extreme prinicples.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:17 AM
The tea party doesn't prevent them, either.

Your ideas that we should return to the 19th century won't work.
We would become a 3rd world country.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 5:06 PM
Last I checked people of all shapes, sizes, colors and ideas were free to show up at public events - Tea Party, Republican, Democrat or otherwise.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 1:33 PM
Matt Taibbi on Chris Hayes on MSNBC
Jun 20, 13 8:01 PM appended by philathome
coming up......
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 8:01 PM
I'll have to read his article in RS about corporate greed and how the ratings agencies rip off the taxpayers.
Rolling Stone has some great contributors, and their articles have been right on.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 20, 13 8:41 PM
Note to Fox News:

Pouring liquid nitrogen into a pool at a party will not create a "toxic cloud". Nitrogen is inert, and it will not react with chlorine,

However, excessive amounts of nitrogen will displace the oxygen in the vicinity of the water's surface.

Morons...
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 21, 13 2:44 AM
That's Dr. Science.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 7:01 PM
The Mr. Science Show
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Mr. Science Show was a zany, lecture based science television program for children developed by Tim Perkins, which aired weekly in the 1990s. The program was produced in the United States. The show utilized simple science experiments, silly stories, and stunts to explain specific concepts in science...
Thanks for playing grasping at straws
Jun 21, 13 9:42 PM appended by joe hampton
rahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 21, 13 9:42 PM
Thanks for playing, Joe-

Ask Dr. Science


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



Ask Dr. Science is a daily humorous radio sketch produced by the comedy troupe Duck's Breath Mystery Theatre. It is broadcast on many public radio stations, using a format that mixes elements of a commercial bumper and a public service announcement. A concerned citizen asks a question, which is answered by an expert, "Dr. Science." Not surprisingly, the questions are never answered ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 10:35 PM
it seems to me that fairwind was not speaking of your lol "public radio show" but the cable show. how self patronizing you are to assume you know what he meant
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jun 21, 13 11:04 PM
Allowing the Taliban to return to power,is effectively a reversal of the gains made in the war on terror, as well as the deterrent laid down in the aftermath of 9/11.
BHO has given back all the gains President Bush made against the taliban . America is on the way to sharia being complient. thanks to the pigs who vote democrat.
obama always capitulates with, and actively arms, America's enemies and stands against America's friends.
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 21, 13 4:05 AM
The party of perpetual war.
We are not the worlds police force.
Afghanistan has to take responsibility for its own future.
We cannot sacrifice more of our people because a morally bankrupt ideology that has cost so much already.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 6:46 AM
We have no troops in either of those places.
We don't need to commit troops.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 23, 13 6:38 AM
Tell it to the republicans- they're the ones who killed the most people in the last twelve years.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 8:47 AM
The continuation of republican policies.
You want to stop the beheading of people in those countries, yet you're against intervention of any kind.
You're confused- Maybe you should go and stop it.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:55 AM
Why do you disagree with making our borders secure? This one is for you Champ?
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 21, 13 7:05 AM
Because the borders will never be secure enough for the Republican Party.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 2:04 PM
For someone who professes he never said he doesn't want secure borders, you certainly sound like "borders never being secure enough" is a bad thing.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:28 AM
It can "sound" like anything you like.
Until you can show us where I actually said it, you are lying about me saying it.
Put up or shut up.

If you can't show me where I said it, you can apologize for lying about it.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:33 AM
Of course Barack, play both sides of the fence. I did't say it, but I said something that can be concluded from it. I did... but I didn't.... I didn't... but I did.... Here I am, no look over here. Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. I'm merely pointing out that by stating that the borders will never be secure enough for republicans, you're argument collapses on itself.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:06 AM
Dance, cappie.
Another lie you told that will be swallowed whole by the far right.
You do it all the time.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:22 AM
Got your number Ph-eel.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:29 AM
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows that only 44% of Likely U.S. Voters approve of obama's job performance. Fifty-five percent (55%) now disapprove.

I would imagine that is the same 44% that pays no federal income tax.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 8:24 PM
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Gee you think
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jun 21, 13 9:31 PM
Who cares about polls, HE was already elected. Come back in February 2016.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 22, 13 2:14 PM
Paul / Cruz 2016
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jun 21, 13 9:36 PM
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Yeah, support the most extreme candidates.
Along with the war on women, labor, immigrants, minorities, the poor and all the rest you'll have the bigot and idiot vote locked up.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 23, 13 6:49 AM
County wants to be 51st state
Bid developing for region to leave leftist Colorado

GREELEY, Colo. – A county in Colorado that was immortalized in the novel and 1978 miniseries “Centennial” once again could achieve fame as it finds itself in a unique position among America’s counties – considering a bid to become the 51st state.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 10:18 PM
very interesting dan i will read up on this
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jun 21, 13 11:05 PM
Da' Yoopers didn't become the 51st state, and I see a bleak future for this movement as well.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 22, 13 5:09 PM
You disagree with secure borders because the borders will never be secure enough for the Republican Party. That is one of the top three must ridiculous posts of all time, congrats! Do you have an opinion of your own? You aren't in favor of seure borders, please explain why, thanks Chap.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 22, 13 7:38 AM
Immigration along the southern border has deceased to almost nothing. It's been that way for almost four years.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 23, 13 6:45 AM
Illegal immigration is down primarily as a result of the crappy economy, for almost four years.
Jun 24, 13 9:29 AM appended by Captn America
And let's not foregt the "catch and release" policies of the Obama Administration.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:29 AM
The economy is improving.
The deficit is going down.
Too bad the republicans won't help.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:47 AM
No, the defecit is not going down. The rate of increase is going down. The economy is showing signs of some improvement, but is still fairly stagnant. Too bad the democrats won't compromise. They'd rather blame republicans and play politics.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:59 AM
What have the republicans done in the last four years, other than vote to repeal the ACA 30+ times and obstructed on every issue?
Oh, I forgot- they continued to attack a womans' constitutional right to choose.
And voting rights.
And immigration reform.
And labor rights.
And they haven't passed a jobs bill.

"CBO drops 2013 deficit estimate to $642 billion

Susan Davis, 12:31 a.m. EDT May 15, 2013

WASHINGTON — A continued decline in the federal ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:11 AM
What part of the deficit is still going up, but at a slower rate, do you not understand?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:28 AM
What part of 'the deficit is lower than it was since Obama took office" don't you understand?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 11:14 AM
Rising revenues to shrink deficit rapidly through 2015: CBO



By David Lawder and Labib Nasir

WASHINGTON | Wed May 15, 2013 5:46am EDT

(Reuters) - The deficit is shrinking considerably more quickly than previously thought, the Congressional Budget Office said on Tuesday in a report that could sap Congress' sense of urgency to find further budget savings.

In one fell swoop, the non-partisan budget referee slashed its deficit forecast for the current fiscal ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 11:26 AM
My bad, I meant to write debt... the debt is still going up.

$16,882,687,757,143 and counting. If you stare at it long enough you can see in slow down.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 5:27 PM
We're still below the debt ceiling until September.
The right will make a stink then- and default on payments to veterans, the elderly and the disabled. The people who depend on government support the most.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 9:46 PM
What a load of fear mongering crap. But if I understand your point, we need to prioritize payments to veterans, the elderly and disabled... everyone else can go pound sand.

I think you're on to something.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:05 AM
Are you against fulfilling our commitment to veterans?
Leave the poor and elderly to starve?
What becomes of the disabled without help?
Whatever happened to the concept of self-reliance we heard you whining about?
We should practice eugenics with the most needy and throw away the concept of personal responsibility that you harp about?
Are you a hippocrate?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:14 AM
As I understand your point, we need to prioritize payments to veterans, the elderly and disabled... you never mentioned the poor, but I think the prioritization you've suggested could go a long way.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:21 AM
Did the crowsd of illegals in front of 7-11 come in through Canada? Please provide a source to back up your comment Champ. Still dodging the question as to why you are not in favor of secure borders. Typical
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 23, 13 7:49 AM
Show me where I said I wasn't in favor of secure borders.
Find the quote and post it.
You can't because it's a lie- I never said it
As usual, the right lies and tries to put words in other peoples' mouths.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 23, 13 8:39 AM
From Crooks and Liars-

Rand Paul Says He'll Vote Against Immigration Bill Over Border Security

"Never mind that his cohorts in the Senate are saying their legislation should be supported because a recent amendment "practically militarized the border." Or that, as has been pointed out time and time again, immigration from Mexico is at a net-zero rate, while deportation is at an all-time high. Sen. Rand Paul is still not going to support the immigration bill because of a so-called ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 12:20 PM
As usual Rand has excellent points. There has to be some standard in place to determine whether effectiveness goals are being met.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 5:34 PM
Like I said, the far right will never be satisfied with border security, and will politicize it.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 5:39 PM
So you have an issue with standards and effectiveness measures? I guess expecting results and accountability from our government and elected leaders especially when it is as important as national security is too much to ask from the left...who will continue to demonize republicans and politicize the immigration issue as racist.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:00 AM
Border security will never be adequate for the far right.
It has to be prejudicial and discriminatory.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 4:52 PM
Border security will never be a priority for the left. Yet another issue they turn into a divisive wedge at the cost of the country.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 9:52 AM
Let me finish your sentence-

"by the far right."
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 10:05 AM
Wanting to ensure border security is a divisive wedge? Huh, who would have ever thought. How again is border security prejudicial and discriminatory?
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 1:30 PM
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By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 23, 13 7:06 PM
liar.
Copy and paste it here; I don't see anything from my June 20th posts saying I don't want secure borders.
Put up or shut up.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 23, 13 8:31 PM
Here you go.

"Because the borders will never be secure enough for the Republican Party.

By philathome (5522), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 2:04 PM"
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:09 AM
That's it?
That's where I said that I was against stricter border controls?
Bwaaahaaahaaahaa
Epic fail
you'll have to do better than that, it isn't even close.
Like when you said that I wanted to take guns away fom police- another instance where you failed.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:16 AM
Just like it in fact. It's typical leftist misguided venom which will always result in unintended messages and consequences from the left. It's no different than the little gem last week with the reading of the name of the Boston terrorist as a VICTIM of gun violence.

Headline: 'He's a terrorist!' Outrage as anti-gun group names slain Boston bomber as one of VICTIMS of gun violence during rally memorializing Sandy Hook massacre

By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:26 AM
Blah,blah, blah- the usual far right wing rant against anything or anyone who doesn't agree with them.
You cite isolated issues and try to blow them up and promote divisiveness.
The right has been doing that for years.
Keep dancing, cappie.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:29 AM
Nice to see that the left considers a terrorist to be a victim of gun violence.... killed by police no less.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:43 AM
He was killed by gunfire.
That makes him a victim of gun violence, even if he brought it upon himself.
What part of "killed by guns" makes that innacurate?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 11:13 AM
The reading of the names was for those who lost their lives to gun violence. Or in this case, gun violence committed by police, or to use your own words, gunfire by police. Another example of the anti-gun robots painting a broad stroke and lumping all gun deaths into one nice neat little package for political purposes without consideration on wether it was legitimate, warranted, or legal to protect life or property.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 12:20 PM
He was killed by gunfire.
What part of that says he didn't die from gun violence?

Are legitimate gun deaths similar to legitimate rape to the right?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 12:29 PM
Gun vilence committed by police apparently.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 5:23 PM
Another great example of "lost opportunity" during the assault on the 2nd amendment" - naming a terrorist as a victim of gun violence.... Unreal, you can't make this stuff up.

CONCORD, N.H. – An anti-gun violence group is coming under fire for reading the name of a terrorist in its list of gun violence victims.

The group, Mayors Against Illegal Guns, held a No More Names rally outside the Statehouse on June 18, reading the names of those who lost their lives to gun violence. ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 10:45 AM
Right there in black and white Champ! June 20. Why do you with making our borders seure? Answer: Because( that's the killer right there) they will never be secure enough for the Republican Party.
Calling the Boston Terrorist a victim of gun violence just proves the mental disease that is liberalism. He's not a victim, just a dirt bag of a human being.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 24, 13 6:21 PM
Epic fail.
Sorry, sparky, I didn't say I was against border security.
What I said was

"Because the borders will never be secure enough for the Republican Party.

By philathome (5522), Southampton on Jun 21, 13 2:04 PM"

What part of that is me saying that I'm against border security?
Border crossings are at net zero.
There are more deprtations being done now than anytime in the recent past.
It sounds like the far right, in their fervor to discriminate, ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 6:50 PM
Update from Slate on gun deaths, of which it has 5300+ listed on its site-

"Update, June 19, 2013: As time goes on, our count gets further and further away from the likely actual number of gun deaths in America—because roughly 60 percent of deaths by gun are due to suicides, which are very rarely reported. When discussing this issue, please note that our number is by design not accurate and represents only the number of gun deaths that the media can find out about contemporaneously. ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 24, 13 6:56 PM
Update

‘IRS Has Ruled Obama Can Write Off First Half of His Second Term as a Total Loss’

By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 25, 13 8:51 AM
15 years of no increase in global temperatures -- which decimates a huge majority of Climate Change models -- our anti-science president took to the stump today for what was promised as a major speech on what he was going to do by executive fiat to save the world. Of all three cable news networks, though, it was his own peanut gallery at MSNBC who bailed first, broadcasting only 41 seconds of the speech.
Fox News gave the president nearly five minutes. CNN covered the event for about eight ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 25, 13 10:54 PM
Fact checking your post via politifact-

• Have we recently experienced the hottest years on record? Obama said "the 12 hottest years on record have come in the last 15 years." We found data from NASA showing 13 of the hottest years on record coming in the last 15. By a different data set produced by NOAA, we found 14 of the hottest years on record coming in the last 15. Obama was actually over-cautious in his statement, so we rated his statement True.

• Is there a lack ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 3:58 PM
Tis great nation has the RIGHT and DUTY to close our borders to all those without authorization to enter. Nothing discriminatory about that Champ.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jun 25, 13 4:41 PM
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Should we close the northern border as well?
Or is that one okay because most of those who cross it are white?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 4:54 PM
no close the Northern border as well
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 10:30 PM
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The demographics are against the republicans regardless of how they rail against minorities and immigrants.
There aren't enough angry old white men to sustain the republican party. Soon they will be the minority.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 10:07 AM
Phil's definition of "railing against minorities and (illegal) immigrants" is the desire to include measures to secure the border. Republicans have never had hispanic demographics to their advantage; even when passing previous amnesty. There is no political advantage to agreeing to amnesty before securing the border for republicans. Angry, pleasant, old or young, securing the border before "reform" kicks in is the best thing for the country and certainly should not include a green light path ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 2:14 PM
Your post proves my point.
The republicans will never agree to immigration reform because the border will never be secure enough for them.
They are engaging in political theater ever since the election. They never had any intention of passing immigration reform; like the failed 'scandals' and defending prop 8 and DOMA, they are wasting taxpayer money.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 2:46 PM
How so. My post mentions nothing of proposed border security specifics, just that amnesty shouldn't be on the table. You prove my point, democrats want nothing to do with border security, just green lighting amnesty for illegal behavior at the expense of law abiding people.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 7:25 PM
" There is no political advantage to agreeing to amnesty before securing the border for republicans..."

By Captn America (2402), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 2:14 PM

The use of the word 'amnesty' is one of the mistakes the right makes when describing immigration reform. It insinuates that all immigrants are criminals. It further demonstrates the demonization of immigrants that has driven minorities away from the republican party.

Why should doing the right thing, like addressing ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 7:35 PM
Here is the democrat’s idea of Border Security….from page 1557 of the Senate bill, “Any person who, during any period of 3 years or less, knowingly and without lawful authority produces, issues, or transfers 3 or more passports; forges, counterfeits, alters or falsely makes 3 or more passports; secures, possesses, uses, receives, buys, sells, or distributes 3 or more passports, knowing the passports to be forged, counterfeited, altered, falsely made, stolen, procured by fraud, ...more
Jun 26, 13 7:40 PM appended by Captn America
Really, three forged passports gets 20 years, why not one offense?? Forging official government documents is a serious matter.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 7:40 PM
The need for "reform" is one of the mistakes the left makes. How about we enforce the laws we currently have. If S744 were a good bill, it wouldn’t be necessary to lie and dissemble to get support. The bill is a slap in the face to all Americans as it gives legal status to anyone with a forged piece of paper purporting entry before 12/31/11. They will get rubber stamped with no in all with no vetting. All current enforcement laws will remain suspended during the application period.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 7:44 PM
You didn't answer my question (as usual) you deflected.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 7:57 PM
So the far right doesn't think we need reform?

By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 8:18 PM
The answer is, agreeing to amnesty in any way shape or form before securing the border isn't doing the right thing. Given that the issue has boiled down to "amnesty" now or later in relation to securing the border, republicans should not cave to accomodate democrat's desire to forgo border security. Giving amnesty with the promise of securing the border later is the exact same thing promised to Reagan and it solved nothing becasue it did not happen. Appeasing democrats would be of no advantage ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 8:26 PM
Define far right, is that anything like far left? If you're talking republicans in general, some think reform is needed, but you already knew that I'm guessing. IMO that is a knee jerk reaction to their incorrect belief that they need to appease democrats and the hispanic community in general. Amnesty or promise of it is not what resonates with hispanics at the polls. Democrats have cornered that market through the promise of entitlements.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 8:32 PM
The far right appeases bigots and racists.
Kind of like what you do.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 8:45 PM
There we go, very constructive. I guess that means the far left can be defined as a group that baselessly calls the far right bigots and racists. It just so happens, that the "far right", let's call them Tea Party types and/or grass roots conservatives like Rubio and Ryan, are talking "amnesty".
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 9:12 PM
It isn't baseless.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 9:16 PM
If the republicans don't support immigration reform, it will haunt them in the next election. It will affirm the bigotry of the right against immigrants and solidify support among immigrants for the democrats.
Keep opposing immigration reform- and thanks for your help.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 7:57 AM
It certainly is baseless. The left makes the fatal flaw of defining an entire party by the actions and/or comments of one or two individuals. Once again, we (republicans) appreciate the left's concern for our well being in the next election. But at the risk of the right being no different from the left, and as a result just as f'd up, many on the right would just assume stick to conservative principles regardless because history has shown what the end result will be.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 9:53 AM
Looks like the House republicans will re-affirm that bigotry I was talking about.
Baseless, you say?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:19 AM
Too bad the bill, which would increase the number of border patrol agents and extend the fence isn't enough for the immigration opponents, who seem to want nothing short of shoot on sight laws.

From Politico-

"Immigration reform bill 2013: Senate passes legislation 68-32

By SEUNG MIN KIM | 6/27/13 4:25 PM EDT Updated: 6/28/13 12:19 AM EDT



The Senate on Thursday passed the most monumental overhaul of U.S. immigration laws in a generation, which would ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:48 AM
The concern with the senate bill is not border security, it is thebpathway to citizenship. The House does not supprt a special pathway to citizenship where people who are here unlawfully get something that people who have worked for decades to immigrate lawfully do not have. A pathway to legal standing, similar to immigrants who have green cards is the preferred republican option. Unless there are other motivations by democrats, this legalizes those who have come here illegally, and takes them ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 30, 13 2:57 PM
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By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 25, 13 10:39 PM
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BHO is surrounded by wall-to-wall scandals, crises and embarrassments, so the only way he can divert attention is to talk about the weather!

By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 25, 13 11:01 PM
Looks like all the 'scandals' fizzled.
Just the republicans trying to distract from their impotence.
No surprise there.

By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 10:23 AM
It also looks like he is taking climate change seriously and proposing ways to combat it.
"Promise kept" according to Politifact.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 26, 13 4:01 PM
Nice fairytale

Polls: Obama Collapses; 70% Want More Benghazi, IRS Investigations
26 Jun 2013, 7:58 AM PDT
New polls released Tuesday shows that President Obama's troubles have only gotten worse since the previous polls. As of now, Obama is upside down by a full eight points with only 43% approving of his job performance while 51% disapprove. Last month, in this same polls, Obama was in a little better shape at 44% - 50%.

The internals of the polls don't look much ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 26, 13 9:27 PM
Directly from not-so- Breitbart.
A skewed poll by a partisan hack.
Not one credible news source carried that poll.
thanks for playing....
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 8:01 AM
If you bothered to read it the source was the Washington Post
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 27, 13 7:24 PM
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Too funny TCM you inspired me LOL
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 27, 13 7:51 PM
Haaaaa!

ROTFLMAO!

Perfect!

Too funny! You guys nailed it. LOL
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 8:04 PM
Phil, what is with all the "thanks for playing" lines? Talk about redundant and boring.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jun 27, 13 9:52 PM
Nice try, but you mis-plagiarized your post TCM.
That was a Fox (news?) poll posted on Breitbart.
When I googled it nothing from the Washington Post came up, but your post, word for word, came up from Breitbart. You lied about the source.
You should source your posts because besides the fact that you didn't above and you lied, and all the usual lemmings lined up behind you to cheer on an obvious lie.
It doesn't make you or your lemmings look very good when you have to make things ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:38 AM
You not only made yourself look foolish, you made fools of the rest of your ilk.
And they're high fiving eachother over it.

way to go.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:43 AM
By the way-
Thanks for playing.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:59 AM
Nice try

Thursday, June 27

President Obama Job Approval Gallup Approve 50,

President Obama Job Approval Rasmussen Reports Approve 45, Disapprove 53 Disapprove +8

President Obama Job Approval Reuters/Ipsos Approve 43, Disapprove 50 Disapprove +7

Direction of Country Reuters/Ipsos Right Direction 28, Wrong Track 56 Wrong Track +28

Public Approval of Obama's Health Care Law Gallup For/Favor 41, Against/Oppose 54 Against/Oppose +8
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:21 PM
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Who cares?
I proved you a lair.You can't be trusted.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:26 PM
Once again TCM plagiarises a news story by not including the publication he got it from.
Desperation makes fools do foolish things, and TCM is going full throttle.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 7:12 PM
Climate change,

Ya its called Summer dummy
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 27, 13 8:05 PM
Look at this- From Raw Story-

"Issa directed Treasury inspector general to ignore IRS treatment of liberal groups

UPDATE: Treasury IG denies allegations IRS audit was politically biased

The bombshell IRS audit released in May omitted information about liberal groups at the request of House Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa (R-CA), according to the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration’s office.

A spokesman for Treasury Inspector General ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:24 AM
obama's anti-growth “climate action plan” ignores real data, tramples representative government, spells economic ruin and clearly wasn't subjected to proper cost-benefit analysis.

Blame-mankind “scientists” can't explain global warming's virtual halt since 1997 while U.S. emissions of carbon dioxide have fallen to 1994 levels. Yet obama — defying his radical agenda's rejection by Congress — plans to decree by executive fiat that Americans must pay dearly ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 28, 13 6:29 PM
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Forbes Magazne has something to tell you-

"The problem with this argument is that it is false: global warming has not stopped and those who repeat this claim over and over are either lying, ignorant, or exhibiting a blatant disregard for the truth."

Hear,hear.
I say right on all counts.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:20 PM
Carbon sink:

Ocean acidification is the name given to the ongoing decrease in the pH of the Earth's oceans, caused by the uptake of anthropogenic carbon dioxide (CO2) from the atmosphere.[1] About 30–40% of the carbon dioxide released by humans into the atmosphere dissolves into the oceans, rivers and lakes.[2][3] To maintain chemical equilibrium, some of it reacts with the water to form carbonic acid. Some of these extra carbonic acid molecules react with a water molecule to give ...more
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jun 28, 13 7:33 PM
You are correct global warming has not stopped it takes place every Summer
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 7:57 PM
You're not even smart enough to know that it's winter in the Southern hemisphere.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 8:11 PM
Listen you know what i am saying, We went from global warming to cooling to climate change, you can always find a situation somewhere to make your argument. What you really want is socialism and you will use any agenda that gets you there.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jun 28, 13 9:25 PM
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Well said!
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 29, 13 2:45 AM
Stick your head in the sand. Changing two billion chinese into capitalists has no effect on the environment.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 1:40 PM
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Looks like BP needs to do more cleanup.
From Crooks and Liars-


Massive Tar Mat Dug Up Off Louisiana Coast 3 Years After BP Spill
Posted: 28 Jun 2013 06:00 PM PDT

BP, and the US government, have decided that beaches in Alabama, Florida, and Mississippi are clean enough now compared to just after the Deepwater Horizon oil spill in 2010, and that BP no longer needs to send out regular patrols to clean the tar from the coastline.

But Louisiana is another story. ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 12:14 PM
The result of using chemical dispersants. All the oil is on the bottom where it can't be seen, and BP can pull the publics chain telling us what a great job it did.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 12:18 PM
Natural oil leeks in the sea floor have been occuring since the begining of time. There is effectively an oil spill every day at Coal Oil Point (COP), the natural seeps off Santa Barbara where 20 to 25 tons of oil have leaked from the seafloor each day for the last several hundred thousand years. Nature does an amazing job acting on this oil .microbes eat 90 % of it leaving a small fraction of the compounds in the sediments, Like Dan said,What you really want is socialism and you will use any agenda ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jun 29, 13 12:49 PM
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Stop challenging Phil or he will take his soccer ball and go home. Your not supposed to debate these things the socilists know whats good for you. Hell he is a modern day George Bernard Shaw
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 29, 13 1:02 PM
I'll be here to call out your lies just Like I have been for years. I've never run away. But you'll make things up just like you always do.
Nothing worse than an ignorant liar.
.

By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 6:54 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 7:00 PM
Chemical Dispersant Made BP Oilspill 52 Times More Toxic

A new study finds that adding Corexit 9500A to Macondo oil—as BP did in the course of trying to disperse its 2010 oilspill disaster—made the mixture 52 times more toxic than oil alone. The results are from toxicology tests in the lab and appear in the scientific journal Environmental Pollution.

Using oil from the Deepwater Horizon blowout and Corexit the researchers tested the toxicity of oil, dispersant, and ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 7:08 PM
'toxic queen' alec baldwin launches homophobic rant against reporter

'today show' has omitted homophobia from alec baldwin twitter-rant

cnn also omited homophobia in report on alec baldwin's twitter rant

as did abc this morning

in my opinion alec is a pompous coward and abusive hack and I have told him that to his face on the street in east hampton

will you progressives hear also give this poor excuse for a man a pass ?
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jun 29, 13 1:19 PM
Nope.

Thanks for sayin' it to his face for everyone.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 1, 13 5:21 PM
Of coarse they wont Erin, Alec is one of there gods like Bill Maher or Michael Boore. You actually confused Phil as he came here after your post and It seems did not know how to answer you.
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 29, 13 8:40 PM
Just more stone throwing.
Little minds preoccupied with their hatred.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 9:08 PM
There's noting there to address. Erin is just another Joe clone.
As damaged as the original.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 29, 13 9:13 PM
You still did not answer her qestion...Will you condom Alec for his unfortunate homophobic comments.

Why cant you do it Phil?
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jun 30, 13 12:26 AM
I'd rather not, but if you want to do it, it's fine with me.
Fulfill your fantasy. Whatever gives you a thrill.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 30, 13 4:26 AM
You would rather not... so one could reasonably assume that you... possessing a highly opinionated nature is implying that his comments were ok with you?
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 30, 13 7:00 AM
I won't CONDEMN you for your bizzarre preferences, I'm very open minded.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 30, 13 7:06 AM
Phil is chronically infected with foot in mouth disease, a side affect of which is stating opinion often by what he does not say.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jun 30, 13 3:07 PM
The usual responses from the usual suspects.I wonder how much bandwidth my fan club has wasted with their attacks.
Bitter, angry and unable to cope with someone who won't back down, then they cry if you use their tactics on them.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jun 30, 13 6:23 PM
The pass on Alec noted.
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:51 AM
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Not a matter of national concern. Just another event that the right will use to manufacture outrage.
Note that they say nothing about republicans saying outrageous things like this-

"Jodie Laubenberg thinks rape kits are the same thing as abortions, says they allow women to "get cleaned out"

It's because they're Hippocrates.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 4:44 PM
There it is... we're off to a new topic.... not so fast.... Are you suggesting an ignorant comment from an uneducated perspective is the same as (repeated) ignorant statements of a gender, racial or sexual preference perspective, from a man who has expressed casual personal interest in running for office and openly verbal opinion in general to politics? That's fine, but given your apparent free pass to Alec, Jodie should then get the same absolution using your rules, or they should both be held ...more
By Captn America (3460), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 7:38 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 8:21 PM
But we were specifically asking about your opinion of Alec and you repeatedly balk on a statement of record.you have the same playbook as many on the left when trapped just divert. just answer the question about Alec and then we can move on to the next issue.

But I suspect you will refuse... Again!



By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 1, 13 9:30 PM
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I didn't address it because I don't give as much weight to what Alec Baldwin says or does as you do. He must be pretty important to you for you to give him as much publicity as you are giving him here.
It's a distraction from real issues.
The distraction was the introduction of his antics into this thread.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 9:43 PM
Still seems to have avoided the question, just saying
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:42 PM
I answered the question. The response was personal attacks because they believe that Alec Baldwin represents everybody that doesn't agree with them. All anyone has to do is read their posts to see that they've said far worse things than Alec said.
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By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:38 PM
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Even if he is WRONG as usuall
By local 84 (148), riverhead on Jul 1, 13 10:06 PM
According to a new Wall Street Journal analysis, healthy Americans may see their health insurance rates double or triple upon Obamacare’s January 2014 grand opening.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 1, 13 10:48 PM
please tell me how this is better than what we had before? i really do not get it? who can afford to pay this? please one of you guys explain to me what is going on with this it seems very crazy.
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 1, 13 11:00 PM
Wish I could Erin, I wish I could

He lied about everything.

* If you like your insurance you can keep it.
* Your premiums will go down by $2,500
* If you like your doctors, you can keep them.
* Everyone will be covered!
* Every person with denied care won't be denied!
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 2, 13 12:28 AM
it seems like he wants to keep some people in check so the others can catch up. but they never will becuse they are to comfortable getting it for free. right?
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By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 2, 13 7:35 PM
Thank you TCM
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By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 2, 13 7:37 PM
That has to be one of the most socially ignorant things I have ever read.

Everyone here who reads this will lose a few IQ points just for glancing at it. May whatever deity you believe in have mercy on your soul...
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 2, 13 9:21 PM
When they can't defend their positions, they make personal attacks and show their impotence on issues.
Then they high five each other for being ignorant.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 6:00 AM
really all I said was captain and joe schooled him and i found it to be refreshing.

what is so bad about that sh press? wow a little thin skinned don't you think?
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 2, 13 8:11 PM
Women urged to stop sex, even with husbands
'Do not make him dinner, do not go fetch him a cold beer from the fridge'
An outspoken feminist is recruiting women to stop having sex with all Texas men – even their husbands – until the men start voting for the “right” to end an unborn baby’s life with a late-term abortion.

I say hello hand and it will give us time to golf more.
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 2, 13 8:25 PM
The republicans in Texas won't let the people speak- they are undermining democracy. They are afraid of the people and have to do this in an underhanded way.
They've been jerking the people around, no surprise that that's what Dan wants to do.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 6:21 AM
Texas is predominantly Republican Phil. Sounds like democracy is working just fine there.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jul 3, 13 9:13 PM
Then hy are thousands opposed to what the Texas republicans are doing in a special session that they couldn't do in a regular session?
More war on women. Men telling women to shut up and do what they're told.
Not all that different than we hear from the right on here.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 9:21 PM
About the only place it is working D, Thank GOD for Texas!
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 3, 13 11:34 PM
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That's not exclusive to Texas Republicans. Seems like a lot of that special session garbage going on in the current administration and past administrations. Goes back to what I always say, politicians are predominantly d-bags. Unfortunately, I have to align myself with the d-bags most likely to not take away any more of my freedoms.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 13 8:33 AM
That's not exclusive to Texas Republicans. Seems like a lot of that special session garbage going on in the current administration and past administrations. Goes back to what I always say, politicians are predominantly d-bags. Unfortunately, I have to align myself with the d-bags most likely to not take away any more of my freedoms.
By dnice (1142), Hampton Bays on Jul 4, 13 8:33 AM
That makes you one of them.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 5:07 PM
Yes, better than one of ou.
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 6:24 PM
Hahaha.
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By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 10:10 PM
Dan, He is just going to report you comment as inappropriate . Its like obama you can't criticize anything he does in either.

So I have decided you need a need a time out Phil . I will not be responding to ANYTHING he says till AUG 1st.
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 3, 13 10:28 PM
I'm In, I like the way you always find the right path Joe. You are truly one of a kind. August first it is
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 10:32 PM
love it, im in also
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 3, 13 10:44 PM
They surrendered.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 3, 13 11:07 PM
Im in sounds like a plan
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 3, 13 11:19 PM
It looks like the right wing finally learned something. It is better not to speak and appear to be a fool, then to speak and remove all doubt. The less they post, the less they alienate the electorate.
By Mets fan (337), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 11:41 AM
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Comments by people next to me at the parade a few minutes ago, as the tea party marched past-

Woman- "Do they have all the amendments?"
Husband- "No, just the important ones."

Really.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 11:58 AM
Nice, Understood P Squelch on full , You got it Joe, August 1 it is.

Imagine that! Joe just gave us the greatest Independence day ever, a peaceful dummy free Summer. Thanks Joe!

Captain, B.F,Dnice,Cheif still need to check in on this.
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 3, 13 11:32 PM
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On this Important day for our great Republic... Let us together enjoy and celebrate our happiness. On this 4th of July let us salute all those brave men and women who serve for our right to Life - Liberty - And the pursuit of happiness.

Have a happy & safe Independence day!
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 4, 13 12:01 AM
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But, have you got a license to shoot a fricasseeing rabbit?
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 4, 13 12:08 AM
As Americans gather to celebrate the anniversary of our nation's freedom, we contemplate, on the one hand, the revolution in Egypt, where people crying out for freedom could only appeal to the military, having lost any power of self-government; and, on the other, the slow imposition of Obamacare in the United States, delayed only so that it might never be defeated, creeping gradually into every aspect of life, administered by agencies already shown to be hostile to freedom. We have much for which ...more
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 10:00 AM
Dan, Today the Egyptian military effectively declared a Coup,

Overthrowing the elected government of the repressive Muslim Brotherhood

The Obama administration is struggling to come up with a coherent strategy to deal with the situation.

Even with Obamas refusal to state whether the United States would withdraw aid to Egypt, It is clear the Arab Spring like Obamacare is a complete failure.
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 4, 13 10:19 AM
PLAGIARIST!
By VOS (540), WHB on Jul 4, 13 2:36 PM
de Tocqueville was/is a hack.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 6, 13 12:09 AM
It'll be nice to be able to express my views without being attacked over them.
Thanks for the gift.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 6:06 AM
to joe hampton, 27day, Erin 27 E, Undocumented Democrat and They call me:

Bless you.

As a bonus, perhaps you could pledge to stop hijacking every thread as a soapbox for your whining about President Obama. We know (Dear god, how well we know!) that you think that he is a terrible person in every way but you LOST, for goodness sake. Better luck in 2016 but stop the mewling, okay. Have you no shame?
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 4, 13 11:57 AM
You mean like all the Buck Fush , Descent is patriotic and Call the village they must have lost there idiot Bumper stickers on every Prius in the Hamptons for the eight years during Mr. Bush.

You mean like the lack of shame the sore losers showed with the hanging Chad fiasco

You mean like all the crying over Valerie Plame, Scooter Libby and the Patriot act... or the Dick Cheney hunting jokes and all the bitching over Haliburton.

How about the water boarding and Guantánamo ...more
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 4, 13 1:15 PM
"Descent is patriotic"

Catch me now, I'm falling. And a happy Independence Day to all!
By VOS (540), WHB on Jul 4, 13 1:58 PM
to joe hampton:

You have missed the point (again), everyone is entitled to express his opinion, however relentlessly and boringly, as long as it is relevant to the article. In the case of your deranged coterie, however, EVERY article is appropriated to endless reiteration of character attacks on President Obama.

One would think, from the habitual tenor of your comments, that this was the Southampton "Lunatic Reactionary" Press website. It isn't, but there ARE many such out there ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 4, 13 2:40 PM
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I thought he meant he would stink less. Maybe use a deodorant.
Does Anybody proof read ?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 4, 13 5:11 PM
Hey Vos if you were falling I would keep on walking.

I was using voice recognition software on my phone to post before and it interpreted it as Descent instead of Dissent wow stop the press a typo.

No, It is you that have missed the point HH... You will not be allowed to go unchecked in your progressive hive for 8 years as you plot your damage to the country unchallenged and without correction.
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 5, 13 1:37 AM
Like Romney in the 2012 campaign, if you don't agree with him he doesn't want to be bothered with you. You don't count.

Jul 5, 13 5:16 AM appended by philathome
After all, Joe called this place a "toilet". All he's interested in is wringing money out of it.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 5:16 AM
Yesterday, was the first time it became obvious the difficulties arising in from the implementation of Obamacare are very real. Last night’s announcement of a one-year delay in the implementation of the employer mandate has silenced obamas chorus of defenders and is the first serious indication that the administration sees that the wheels are coming off the bus, and is very worried about it.

By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 5, 13 6:21 AM
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Actually the delay was endorsed by the Chamber of Commerce because it gives businesses time to comply, which they said they needed.





HHS was correct in his post.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 7:24 AM
TCM, the problem is already manifesting in the quality of jobs any fool can see this is a disaster. Just look at these numbers

As Obamacare Strikes: Part-Time Jobs Surge To All Time High; Full-Time Jobs Plunge By 240,000
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 11:08 AM
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Dan did you see the Wall St. Journal called it “A Fiasco for the Ages.” as it reminded everyone yesterday they fought the A.C.A. from its start & we’d like to apologize. It turns out we were not nearly critical enough.”
Editors of The N.Y. Times, obama’s most reliable sycophants, are deep in mourning, Nancy said " Only way to find out what was in Obamacare was to pass it " it passed , the messiah signed it, and we’re beginning to see the results. It’s ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 5, 13 11:25 AM
BHO “has been unconstitutional in his circumventing of Congress and very successful in creating an imperial presidency”
BHO's latest legal end run around Congress, delaying enforcement of the employer health mandate has sparked more questions about whether he’s abusing his executive discretion under the Constitution.
The move announced late Tuesday was the latest in a string of decisions where our King has simply decided he can take matters into his own hands.
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 5, 13 3:47 PM
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By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jul 5, 13 4:08 PM
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a coalition of over two dozen leading gay activists are calling on capital one to fire spokesman alec baldwin in the wake of homophobic tweets the actor made last week on twitter.
“we urge all americans to ask themselves, ‘what’s in your wallet?’ and hope they will reject baldwin’s homophobia by cutting up those capital one cards in their wallets”
like i did last night
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 5, 13 7:13 PM
Stop being so thin skinned grow up and stop acting like a two year old saying he called me a name. Who really cares what Alec Baldwin says anyway. By the way I thought he was the big hero of liberals and gays?
By chief1 (1107), southampton on Jul 5, 13 8:59 PM
cheif you missed what is going on here read a few lines up
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 5, 13 11:03 PM
Yeah,chief- they don't want you to act like an adult. They want to make sure they only speak to those who agree with them.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 7:51 PM
A New York Times profile of Valerie Jarrett, President Obama’s top aide, glosses over her family’s radical history, including ties to a top communist activist and to former Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers.


By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 6, 13 8:15 PM
We have a complete breakdown of our Constitutional system. Neither house of Congress ever read this bill... nor any member in Congress. You had one-party control at the time, So we have what is now an unconstitutional law imposed on the American people. 2700 pages, 20,000 pages of regulations affecting every single human being in this country. One sixth of the economy. None of these people read it, none of them understand it. We don’t understand it, the businesses that are supposed to implement ...more
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 5, 13 4:27 PM
The decision to delay the mandate until 2015, which the administration announced on Tuesday after hours in the hope no one noticed, is a setback for Obama, who is currently attempting to shoehorn immigration reform legislation through the House for the same reason he is stalling the mandate

Votes!
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 6:23 PM
If you have ever read, or absorbed a single shred of "American History", you'd know that you sound like a Tory.
Jul 6, 13 12:06 AM appended by Mr. Z
The information which Columbus wanted most was: "Where is the GOLD?!?"
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 6, 13 12:06 AM
to joe hampton:

Take it easy, joe, you sound on the verge of apoplexy. I fear that you have succumbed to the danger that all propagandists face, you have come to believe your own fiction.

Be assured that none of what you have just written will come to pass. Some people will have difficulty adjusting to Affordable Care, but they will be an infinitesimal minority, and businesses will soon realize that Affordable Care affects all competitors the same, so they will have to stop using ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 6, 13 11:36 AM
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Let the children go,they look foolish to anyone who reads here regularly. I'm going to post in other threads where there are at least some adults.
These few have mastered the art of the hissy-fit.

"
The Art of the Hissy Fit

TomPaine.com / By Digby


Unlike the Democrats, Republicans have mastered the art of throwing hissy fits as a political tool to control political dialogue.


October 24, 2007 |





















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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 8:22 PM
Smells cleaner in here already
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 10:40 PM
From the Associated Press-

June Jobs Report: U.S. Economy Adds 195,000 Jobs; Unemployment Rate Unchanged

WASHINGTON — U.S. employers added 195,000 jobs in June and hiring was more robust in the two previous months than earlier estimated. The gains raise hopes for a stronger economy in the second half of 2013.

The Labor Department said Friday that the economy also added 20,000 more jobs in May and 50,000 more in April than initially reported. The unemployment rate ...more
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 5, 13 5:35 PM
de Tocqueville is/was, and shall always be a hack.

An aristocrat's opinion of egalitarianism.

In other words, a crock of BULL****.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 6, 13 12:26 AM
Why is that Z
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 6, 13 10:32 AM
Besides the fact he was born an aristocrat, spent his whole life in politics, and had the "excursion" to the United States funded for him, I'll also throw in that his "tour" was more of an extended vacation. He wanted for nothing, was privately tutored, and honestly I'd have more respect for his "journey" if he accumulated his information while working odd jobs and befriending people.

The real clincher is that he didn't actually write the whole book. His pal Beaumont did...
Jul 7, 13 12:53 AM appended by Mr. Z
"His pal Beaumont did a lot of the work..."
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 12:53 AM
and how does any of that detract from the message...
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 7, 13 8:51 AM
The fact that Dear Leader has decreed the implimemntation be delayed, in violation of the law, proves He is nothing more than a dictator in training. Actually, He's getting good at it in a hurry! As usual, His sycophants are singing His praises without regard to the legality of His actions.
By bigfresh (1066), north sea on Jul 6, 13 10:51 AM
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Joe is correct, We have the power to defund this nightmare ! We have the power to defund Obamacare. Given that a vast majority of Americans detest it what are we waiting for !
This law would still require businesses to pay an Obamacare fine, but Obama is just asking businesses to ignore the law in 2014. What would prevent the IRS from retroactively coming back and imposing the 2014 fines after the election, at least against "certain" businesses owned by political opponents?
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 6, 13 7:32 PM
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How can we defund it I have not seen this , Please explain
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 6, 13 8:01 PM
Hat Head, Even you and world war Z must admit we have the elements of a police state here, The SCOTUS last week ruled that law enforcement can take DNA from you when you’re stopped for a speeding ticket and Scalia was right in his Dissent to be concerned about a national database.

Even the shunned one would have to admit... It goes way over the line of our traditions... we will have to ask him after Aug 1st

You look at whats going on in obamas IRS, they are collecting ...more
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 6, 13 6:21 PM
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A paranoid diatribe.
HHS was right.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 6:27 PM
Joe's post is a nice example of somebody who is consumed by hate.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 6:48 PM
1984?

So, let me get this straight. You finally acknowledge class warfare exists, that corporations have too much power, and our system has come to serve only a fraction of this country's population?

Google: Our Hidden History of Corporations in the United States

Maybe you'll learn something...
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 12:45 AM
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Stop being so dam condesending...Class warfare definitely exists. What made our republic different was there was a path to upward mobility... if you worked hard enough...yes it might even take two or three generations to fully achieve, but it was possible. as opposed to your system where there is an absolute ruling class, a thin layer that can never be challenged in any other way but revolution.
What makes me crazy is the people that would rather live in the latter society as to eliminate any ...more
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 7, 13 9:06 AM
If that's what you think my idea of a "system" is, you don't know me at all and have absorbed nothing from anything I've ever written.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 10:41 AM
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Well said Big Fresh & Mr. Hampton, Thank you for taking the time out of your day to round up the facts
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 6, 13 7:38 PM
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This is fasinating,
Kenyan Cardinal John Njue, Archbishop of Nairobi and president of the Kenyan Episcopal Conference, joined other African leaders last week in open dismissal of President Obama’“Those people who have already ruined their society…let them not become our teachers to tell us where to go,” said Njue in response to Obama’s statements. “I think we need to act according to our own traditions and our faiths.”

By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 6, 13 10:49 PM
i just read an interesting quote "i tremble for my country when I reflect that god is just; and that his justice cannot sleep forever." thomas jefferson, 1781.

sadly since 1963 when the bible was banned from the public schools, etc is when i believe the country slipped in the cesspool.
I fear for this country, especially since we decided to back away from israel.and support other governments with sharia law. it is very scary

By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 6, 13 11:04 PM
So we should be teaching Deuteronomy, Exodus, Leviticus, Isaiah, hate, indifference, methods of public execution, how to sell your daughter into slavery, how touching the skin of a dead pig makes someone "unclean", or last but not least how we should execute those who work on the "Sabbath"?

If you're another "Holy Bible" cherrypicker who thinks it's a "Good Book" you really need to read it more thoroughly...
Jul 7, 13 1:08 AM appended by Mr. Z
1 Corinthians 14:34 - Let your women keep silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak; but they are to be submissive, as the law also says. And if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home; for it is shameful for women to speak in church.
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 1:08 AM
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to 27day:

News Bulletin: Roman Catholic Cardinal is opposed to marriage equality, female priests, contraception and homosexual practice. Film at eleven.

Here's what President Obama actually said that resulted in the good cardinal's criticism:

“My basic view is that regardless of race, regardless of religion, regardless of gender, regardless of sexual orientation, when it comes to the law, people should be treated equally, and that’s a principle that I think ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 7, 13 11:37 AM
But not those who promote a book which is pro-slavery?
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 12:31 PM
HHS , Personally I could care less who Phil sleeps with or what Jay Sears fumbles with (until it included the faces of our underage children, a practice no one here except you seemed to think was acceptable)

The excerpt I saw was of the Kenyan Cardinal upset about the lack of morals and faith. Saying in response to Obama’s statements. “I think we need to act according to our own traditions and our faiths.” in other words please do not tell us how to live when your world ...more
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 12:39 PM
Obama on Not Visiting Kenya:

"I Try to Spread the Wealth Around"

How Pompous and Narcissistic
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 7, 13 1:09 PM
well good night all plesant dreams of years gone by
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 6, 13 11:06 PM
to joe hampton:

First, you publish a nonsensical broadside against Affordable Care, and then, when I refute it, you switch topics entirely and claim that I thereby approve of limitations to our civil rights.

Personal medical data will be no more public under Affordable Care than it is now. Any claim to the contrary (for the obvious purpose of including Affordable Care under the rubric of "Attacks on personal liberty") is specious.

Are our personal liberties being attacked? ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 7, 13 2:09 AM
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How about a compromise you admit abortion is murder of Innocent baby's and we will accept civil unions with all the monetary benefits and protections that go with it.

We FIRST fix the border for good and make it impossible for future breaking of the law and we will grant amnesty to people without a criminal record that have already broke the law and are in the country Illegally!

As for the second amendment HANDS OFF!

By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 12:51 PM
Why should we make a deal? The SCOTUS already ruled on marriage equality.
Just like they ruled that abortion is legal.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 9:16 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 9:17 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 9:17 PM
We don't need to compromise- the Supreme Court has ruled our way on abortion, marriage equality and 'Obamacare'.
It upheld most of the voting rights act and affirmative action.
Sounds like your on the wrong side of history.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 7, 13 9:22 PM
Here. Learn something:

The Real Boston Tea Party was Against the Wal-Mart of the 1770s
by Thom Hartmann

CNBC Correspondent Rick Santelli called for a "Chicago Tea Party" on Feb 19th in protesting President Obama's plan to help homeowners in trouble. Santelli's call was answered by the right-wing group Freedomworks, which funds campaigns promoting big business interests, and is the opposite of what the real Boston Tea Party was. FreedomWorks was funded in 2004 by Dick Army ...more
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 7, 13 11:33 PM
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"History does not repeat itself, but it does rhyme."

~ Mark Twain

See above...
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 8, 13 6:41 PM
High Hat and Mr Z you two must realize things are on the verge of falling apart for BHO

Watergate investigator Bob Woodward of the Washington Post compares Barack Obama to Richard Nixon. Members of Congress say it’s about time to consider it. Bill Clinton hints Obama’s constitutional violations make him eligible. And even Code Pink co-founder Medea Benjamin has called for Obama’s impeachment.

a document is addressed to members of Congress, who have the responsibility ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 7, 13 11:40 PM
We know why you hate him.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 6:04 AM
You do realize that the aforementioned "members of Congress" have utterly violated every principal this country was founded upon, correct?

Credibility is sorely lacking all around, I would say...

The Real Boston Tea Party was Against the Wal-Mart of the 1770s
by Thom Hartmann
Jul 8, 13 6:44 PM appended by Mr. Z
"How much 'soft money' may I expect to receive in exchange for my 'core values'?" ~ George Carlin
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 8, 13 6:44 PM
"principal value"
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 8, 13 6:52 PM
to 27dan:

Actually, we Liberals don't necessarily find Jay Sears' behavior acceptable, just harmless and protected by the 1st and 4th amendment. (To refresh the memory of those unacquainted with the case, Mr. Sears was arrested for cutting photographs of the heads of children out of innocuous pictures, pasting them onto pornographic photographs of adults and perusing them solitarily, in private, behind the walls of his own home.)

Thanks for illustrating my point. You will take ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 8, 13 2:08 AM
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We shall see Mr hat we shall see
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 8, 13 10:14 AM
This is what happens to fraudsters like Barack Hussein Obama II, whose only experience was as a shake down artist, or so-called "community organizer" in crime ridden Chicago. He has no leadership skills, no core beliefs except redistribution of wealth, hatred of small business and love of BIG Government. His greatest asset is the ability to read phony speeches from a Teleprompter. Yet, the MSM swooned when he spoke, and has never criticized him nor investigated any of the numerous scandals in his ...more
By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 8, 13 10:51 AM
More of the usual vitriol from the usual suspects.
It must be sad to be so hateful that all your posts sounds the same.
How sad that we can look at all the posts made by the far right on this site for the last four years and they all are the same.
Bitter angry people who are so frustrated by this president that they will reveal their true nature in their posts .
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 11:33 AM
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Sexual Assaults Reportedly Rampant During Egypt Protests
Here is your real war on women HHS

I find it very disturbing that you still feel no need to denounce Jay Sears actions involving the pictures of locale children?

How do you sleep at night?
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 1:06 PM
I sleep just fine- and still have a conscience.
It's the conservative movement that is known for not having a conscience. Look up John Dean.
If we're going to end the war on women we need to start here with the conservative attacks on women's rights . We aren't the worlds police, and we don't need to hippo critically preach to other countries while ignoring what one political party practices here.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 1:48 PM
highhatsize, Dan asked you how you sleep at night defending a creep like jay sears, i must admit i wondered the same thing. you must not have any children of your own to feel this way. i do not mean to insult you but it is very creepy
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 8, 13 2:49 PM
to Erin 27 E:

There is a legal maxim, "hard cases make bad law", meaning that "a particularly unpleasant case is a poor basis for a general law which would cover a wider range of less extreme cases." (Wikipedia) The Sears case is an example of the operation of that maxim. His objectively harmless behavior is criminalized under a law that was passed as a reaction to horrible examples of pedophelic rape.

Even so, the law would be perfectly okay if it didn't collide with Jay Sears ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 9, 13 12:46 AM
The good people of Egypt got an education when they took obamas lead and through out a stable government for these radical animals.This morning the Egyptian military had no choice but to opened fire on a crowd of unruly Muslim Brotherhood demonstrators who had staged a violent protest outside a military headquarters .

There is you Arab Spring fools!
By 27dan (821), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 12:25 PM
Egypt is a righteous buffet for reactionaries. What with the contending parties therein being an unpalatable democratically elected government and a military dictatorship, nothing that the president does would save him from irrational extremist criticism. If he supports the democratically elected government, he's in favor of religious extremists; if he supports the military, he's in favor of dictatorship over democracy; and if he supports neither, he's not showing "leadership."

The puzzling ...more
By highhatsize (1891), East Quogue on Jul 8, 13 1:26 PM
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highhatsize, Talk about self righteous reactionaries, have you re read your Pius self affirming fairy tale.

By They call me (847), southampton on Jul 8, 13 2:21 PM
Do you ever read yours?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 5:01 PM
The hat has no cop issues to discuss so he has jumped into the zoo. I really thought you were above that, dude. In this world here all time is spent saying "I know you are, but what am I?" Akin to school children in the playground.
By But I'm a blank! (633), Hampton Bays on Jul 9, 13 12:55 PM
< --- pssst. tcm, remember
Jul 8, 13 5:46 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
3 more weeks of peace and quite
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 8, 13 5:46 PM
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Jul 8, 13 6:11 PM appended by philathome
You imposed silence on yourselves, not on me. How's it working out for ya?
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 8, 13 6:11 PM
Read me at the NY Public Library Archives:

Retrospect of the Boston Tea Party with a Memoir of George R.T. Hewes, a Survivor of the Little Band of Patriots Who Drowned the Tea in Boston Harbor in 1773
Jul 9, 13 6:19 AM appended by Mr. Z
by George Robert Twelves Hewes
By Mr. Z (5605), North Sea on Jul 9, 13 6:19 AM
I wiil read it
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 9, 13 8:48 AM
Hey Un doc since you and Z are in a reading mood check this out

Who Is Racist?
By Thomas Sowell - July 9, 2013

I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white.

Apparently other Americans also recognize that the sources of racism are different today from what they were in the past. According to a recent Rasmussen poll, 31 percent of blacks think that most blacks are racists, while 24 percent of blacks think that most whites are ...more
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 9, 13 8:59 AM
The way the right blames all our problems on minorities, the poor, women, unions, educators and anybody else who is not them.
By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 9, 13 5:03 PM
interesting statistics joe i like the way he just presents the facts and lets the readers sort out what it means. to me it seems clear who needs to stop the finger pointing. just the facts right
By Erin 27 E (176), southampton on Jul 10, 13 12:17 AM
Read them both very interesting in different ways for sure. have to go do some volunteer work I got talked into for the day :) see you all later
By Undocumented Democrat (503), southampton on Jul 9, 13 12:09 PM
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By philathome (7744), Southampton on Jul 9, 13 5:07 PM
Oh boy now look what you went and did U D...

I'm pretty sure you went and broke it this time
By joe hampton (1629), south hampton on Jul 9, 13 10:00 PM
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