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Aug 28, 2012 2:38 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

UPDATE: One Airlifted, Several Others Injured In Three-Vehicle Crash; Montauk Highway Reopens

Aug 31, 2012 9:56 AM

UPDATE: 3:27 p.m.

One woman was flown by Medevac helicopter to Stony Brook University Hospital and several other people were taken by ambulance to Southampton Hospital, all with unknown injuries.

The woman was in a four-door sedan, which was apparently rear-ended by a Hampton Jitney bus, which, in turn, hit a masonry dump truck. All vehicles were heading west on Montauk Highway at the time.

Three ambulances from Southampton Volunteer Ambulance, one from Southampton Village Volunteer Ambulance, and one from Bridgehampton responded. The Southampton Fire Department stood by with heavy rescue.

Montauk Highway was reopened at about 3:20 p.m.

ORIGINAL STORY:

A Suffolk County Police Medvac helicopter was called to the scene of a reported three-vehicle crash in Water Mill on Tuesday afternoon.

The call of an accident with physical injury on Montauk Highway in the vicinity of Davids Lane, Deerfield Road and Nowedonah Avenue came in at 2:09 p.m., said Southampton Town Police Sergeant Howard Kalb.

Additional details were not immediately available.

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Hope everyone is OK.

This stretch has needed traffic lights, and left-turn lanes, for years. From the new Parrish Art Museum to at least Scuttle Hole Road, it is time to regulate the flow of traffic with timed lights, and well-controlled turns IMO.

Get ready for Labor Day weekend, and the Horse Show!

PS -- Actually it is time to regulate traffic more closely from the Lobster Inn to Town Line Road in Sagaponack.
By PBR (4953), Southampton on Aug 28, 12 3:57 PM
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Lights, turns, police presence, etc all irrelevant here. I was there and traffic was stopped. This appeared to be a caused by a Hampton Jitney bus rear ending the stopped line. The person airlifted had only a hematoma. 2 Doctors on the scene felt the chopper was unnecessary and were treated very, very rudely by both BH and SVA Volunteer crews.
By Q333 (161), Southampton on Aug 28, 12 4:20 PM
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I had heard that the HJ driver was texting at the time of the accident. I wonder if that is true.

Those buses are a menace.
By C Law (351), Water Mill on Aug 28, 12 9:31 PM
BS - as is said below, the Doctors would never take on the liability of making a call like that. It's the job of the professionals who were there responding to the accident to make the call. Better safe then sorry and no EMT in their right mind would defer to someone who walks up to them and says "I'm a doctor, they don't need an airlift".
I bet they slept in a Holiday Inn the night before too . . .
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 28, 12 10:11 PM
I don't know what you and "Spinny" have against Doctors (or Holiday Inns for that matter) but I'm pretty sure you are not entitled to speak on all of their behalfs. Your personal experiences have no bearing on what happened here today. Doctors are professionals, our Volunteer crews are NOT. Our taxes pay for Medevac. When one is sent unnecessarily, it not only wastes money but makes one unavailable for someone who may really need one. "Better safe than sorry" does not apply here as ambulance crews ...more
By Q333 (161), Southampton on Aug 29, 12 12:01 AM
Please tell me what kind of "doctors" they were? I'm not saying they aren't qualified, but being a Doctor is not the same as being an EMT who is called to the scenes of these accidents everyday. Were they foot doctors? skin doctors? ear nose and throat doctors? No one in their right mind would defer to someone who comes up to them on the street - as the EMT, they are responsible for making a decision and if they listen to the Dr. and are wrong they will get sued into oblivion -not to mention ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 29, 12 9:22 AM
Just thought I would inform you as per southampton.patch.com the occupant taken by helicopter "suffered serious head trauma" I think any head trauma is a priority and its no ones call accept for the EMTS on scene to fly some one. Once they get to the LZ the PARAMEDIC in the copter gets out, meets the crew in the ambulance does his assessment on the patient and if he feels like they don't need to bring them by helicopter he will tell the crew to ground transport. Just so you the people who you are ...more
By Buff9012 (1), southampton on Sep 1, 12 1:52 PM
Treated very rudely by volunteer crews? Did the doctors know where the nearest hospital was? No. Did they understand the nearest hospital was not a trauma center? No. Did they fully examine the patients to the extent the responding medics did? No. Should they have been going against the judgement of the medic in charge who knew all of the above? No. Do they know the standing protocols for requesting medevac to an appropriate trauma center? No. Do I need to go on? No. They should have stepped back ...more
By BlackLab (40), Southampton on Sep 6, 12 4:51 PM
Hey Nature you win the award for most ignorant comment this year. If a doctor is an ear, nose, and throat doctor they are a medical doctor who became a specialist in a certain type of medicine. Most doctors work in an emergency room for their internship, and see gunshot wounds, and other trauma. What do you think doctors do for schooling check peoples feet? The job of an EMT is too temporarily stablize a victim for transport so they can see a doctor in a trauma unit.
A medical degree is no ...more
By chief1 (2790), southampton on Sep 9, 12 9:38 PM
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Wow - trolling old articles in an effort to cut me down, that's a new one.

If you think that's the most ignorant comment of the year, you don't spend nearly enough time reading comments on 27east (seriously).

I never said an ear, nose and throat doctor isn't capable of attending to a medical emergency. I ASKED Q333 what kind of doctor it was since she was convinced that the doctor was a better person to handle the situation.

Did I say an ear, nose or throat Dr. was ...more
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Sep 9, 12 10:07 PM
You still don't get it a doctor has more training than an emt. When a patient gets to the emergency room does the doctor ask the emt for advice? no way. By the way the emt's are in contact with the emergency room when they are on call. When a doctor shows up an emt should drop his ego and let a doctor help stablize the patient. I asked a friend of mine who is a NYC fireman and he told me they welcome a doctor that can help stablize a victim. Save the victim not your pride. Not that emt's don't do ...more
By chief1 (2790), southampton on Sep 10, 12 9:16 PM
So if you were an EMT at the scene and 100% responsible for the wellfare of the injured party - you would let anyone who walks up to you and says they are a Dr. decide if the person should be airlifted or not? That was the question.

I never argued that a Dr. couldn't be helpful, couldn't offer advice, couldn't help stabalize a patient. I simply stated that no EMT would let a Dr. decide how the patient goes to the hospital which is what Q333 stated.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Sep 11, 12 9:13 AM
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Why are there photos of the victims? Especially photos of their faces. What if a family member saw the photo before they got the call?
By Local dad (51), North Sea on Aug 28, 12 5:17 PM
Because news media operates independently, and on its own time frame, than of governmental administration.
By Duckbornandraised (184), Eastport on Aug 28, 12 6:44 PM
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Wait till the new Parrish Museum opens later this year. That stretch of CR 39 turning into Montauk Highway going east is going to be a disaster. Something has to be done now.
By SisBoomBonacker (106), Hamptons on Aug 28, 12 5:48 PM
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i said it once i say it again get rid of the watermill traffic light it is useless time consuming everyday mess
By baymen (26), hamptonbays on Aug 28, 12 7:06 PM
If head trauma is obvious to the doctor or emt in such a short time period from onset. I believe protocall is to get the patient to a trauma facility were best care can be given. That's what I would want for my family. I would be more upset if I went to southampton because the doctor said I looked ok only to do a scan and find out I have fluid or swelling...... Causing me to be shipped out later.... A doctor or emt can not tell what is going in their body completely until at a hospital.A conclusion ...more
By Common Scense (24), Southampton on Aug 28, 12 7:42 PM
All of the assumptions you have made here are incorrect. The fact remains that these 2 Physicians, one from NYU and the other, who left a patient mid-suture to run out of his office to help, are due apologies by both the Bridgehampton and Southampton Village VOLUNTEER Departments. And what you SHOULD want for your family is that if they ever find themselves in a situation like this, ACTUAL DOCTORS would stop to help them and not be pushed out of the way by adrenaline fueled wannabes.
By Q333 (161), Southampton on Aug 28, 12 8:43 PM
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I would have to call B.S. on your story. If they were "actual doctors" they should have taken over care of the patient and should be held responsible for the care. Instead they yell comments, do not take any responsability, and are offended when people from the ambulance corp, trying to do their unpaid job, ask them to step back.
By Spinny OHO (94), Speonk on Aug 28, 12 10:01 PM
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What if the doctors were wrong? I understand their disire to help, but at the end of the day, the fact that they were doctors does not mean that anyone has to take there word as golden. The Volunteers did what they thought was best. The fact that you stressed the word volunteer does not mean that these men and women are hacks, they are trained EMT's they made a judgment call. I'm sure the injured party appreciates that. They may have been rude to the doctors, but when you're in a situation like ...more
By pstevens (406), Wilmington on Aug 29, 12 9:31 AM
Q333,
I am sure the Dr's meant well, but chances are minimal that they have ANY training to perform under these circumstances, and I would bet all that I own they they did not volunteer to serve as the respsonsible parrtty at the scene. MD's have a way of thinking that
the pedestal staus society gives them entitles them to act like they are god like. They aren't, I would prefer treatment from an emt under these circumstances anytime to a MD.
Keep in mind that if the emt has a habit ...more
By Phadreus1340 (144), Southampton on Aug 29, 12 11:34 AM
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What foolish responses from a bunch of people who were not there. Clearly, you all are the armchair quarterbacks and I AM a Medical professional with many, many years of Emergency experience.
By Q333 (161), Southampton on Aug 29, 12 3:48 PM
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Cleaning bedpans does not qualify one as a medical professional.
By Phadreus1340 (144), Southampton on Aug 29, 12 3:56 PM
Q333, first off let me say that you owenearly ALL of the emergency crews on Long Island an apology being that anytime you will need 911 in the future you will be depending on these volunteers to save your rear end. "Adrenaline fueled wannabes"? Where are you a medical proffesional that the training for an EMT, Medic, or similar position is vastly different from a paid responder? Read my above post about how the doctors there knew nothing about protocol and procedure for emergency medicine in the ...more
By BlackLab (40), Southampton on Sep 6, 12 4:58 PM
There was another accident at noyac road and whitney road at about 5:15 today. I happened to pass by right after it had happened. A modern compact car rear-ended a 1970's buick skylark convertible. both cars totaled, thankfully no injuries. You'll probably read about it tomorrow. The amount of accidents this summer is out of control.
By Brian Bailey (36), Southampton on Aug 28, 12 8:46 PM
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Hampton Jitney buses are a menace on the road. They cruise at 70 plus mph and tailgate all the time. The management of that company is irresponsible as far as I am concerned there is no way they don't know about the operation of their buses. especially when they advertise they get you back and forth from NYC no matter what the traffic. Take them off the road before they kill someone.
By realistic (472), westhampton on Aug 28, 12 10:20 PM
The maximum spped the buses can travel is 68 mph, not 70 and they do provide a safe and secure way to travel to and from NYC.
By averagejoe (1), greenport on Aug 29, 12 8:37 AM
Well the maximum speed on the highway is 55mph.HELLO. Those buses fly past me and I have seen them personally going into and out of the HOV. I would be suprised if their management didnt know about it as their Safety Record is up for public view on the state DOT website. Not a transportation carrier I would use. Add to it they drive for some of the school trips and thats even more troubling in my opinion
By realistic (472), westhampton on Aug 29, 12 1:14 PM
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So you do 55mph on the highway? I doubt it. You would be pushed off the road so fast you wouldn't know what hit you. Be realistic Realistic. The buses are locked so they can't travel faster than 68mph. I would rather ride on a Jitney than travel the road with many of the drivers I see everday. They are very well monitored and you would know that if you acually rode on a jitney every now and then. Take a good look in the mirror before you go pointing fingers at others.
By lifesaver (118), speonk on Aug 31, 12 11:27 AM
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By realistic (472), westhampton on Aug 28, 12 10:20 PM
Anyone realize that the bigger/ heavier trucks and buses are going faster than most the cars? how close they get to the back of your vehicle when stopping? scary i hope everyone in these scenerios is ok!
By Sour09 (18), Hampton Bays on Aug 29, 12 11:02 AM
It's a driving free for all out here all summer and this summer is worse than most. It's time to patrol the roads, put in cameras and start pulling these people over. If you can't patrol the roads with police cars then do it from the air!!!! They run red lights, make left hand turns cutting off traffic, blow through stop signs, speed, have no clue as to who has the right of way, just assume it's them, and are putting everyone in jeopardy. The bikers are just as bad, they are clueless that the rules ...more
By sandydog21 (195), Southampton on Aug 29, 12 5:57 PM
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Newsday is reporting that the driver of the Jitney admitted to dropping his drink and being distracted. Accidents happen... as foolish as it is every 'accident' is caused by someone doing something stupid.
By Nature (2966), Hampton Bays on Aug 31, 12 12:44 PM
I hope the Hampton Jitney just takes responsibility of dealing with the truth of what happens and there insurance company takes care of it, my girlfriends husband was hit by a Jitney bus in Sag Harbor in the beginning of the summer, the bus was in the wrong lane and cut him off, but of course the Jitney driver would not admit, they are worried about keeping there ratings up, they would not take responsibility for there actions and therefore my girlfriends husband had to pay a copay, rent-a-car and ...more
By Linpaz70 (4), Sag Harbor on Aug 31, 12 1:56 PM
An hour and ten minutes after a major accident and Montauk Highway is re-opened. Sad to say, "practice makes perfect."
By loading... (588), quiogue on Aug 31, 12 6:52 PM
What a bunch of Hysterical Hatties on this thread.

I love the Jitney. It keeps thousands of private cars off the road every summer. If you think traffic is bad now, why don't you get rid of the jitney and see how you like your hour-long one-way jaunt to the grocery store. See how you like traffic at a standstill from Scuttlehole Rd to David White's Lane twelve hours a day in the summer. See how you like a hundreds more texting drivers on the roads who would've been contained on a few ...more
By btdt (449), water mill on Sep 9, 12 2:50 PM