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Dec 14, 2013 2:47 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Three Stores Charged In Underage Drinking Raid

Dec 14, 2013 2:47 PM

Three Hampton Bays residents were cited for selling alcohol to underage, undercover officers in a sting operation on Friday night, officials have said.

All three employees, Luis Solis-Orantes, 52, Brandi McKay, 24, and Brendan Worrell, 30, were charged by New York State Troopers with one count of unlawful dealing with a child and one count of prohibited sale of an alcoholic beverage.

Mr. Solis-Orantes, an employee at the Shell Mart Gas Station on West Montauk Highway, sold a six-pack of Heineken beer to the undercover agent. Ms. McKay, a cashier at Bottle Hampton on County Road 39 in Southampton, sold a bottle of Grays Peak Vodka. Mr. Worrell, a cashier at Hampton Beverage on East Montauk Highway in Hampton Bays sold a 12-pack of Bud-Light Beer to agents.

All three employees were issued tickets to appear at Southampton Town Justice Court on a later date.

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If your not old enough to drink then your not old enough to vote... THINK ABOUT IT.
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 15, 13 2:39 PM
Joe, are you saying that people shouldn't vote until 21 or that the drinking age should be 18?
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 15, 13 9:09 PM
to marlinspike:

Only to those who can't tell the difference between a mere privilege and a constitutionally guaranteed right.
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 16, 13 11:30 AM
to marlinspike:

You are still unclear of the concept. Driving a car is a privilege whereas buying a gun and getting a passport are rights. Hence, many objections to restrictions to the acquisition of the latter do not pertain to the former.
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 16, 13 11:37 PM
BS
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 17, 13 8:50 AM
to marlinspike:

I thought that you were making an allusion to the current push by the Right-Wing to institute photo i.d. requirements for voting.
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 17, 13 9:38 AM
Nice tip Marlin i have been getting into spats at the voting table for years about not asking me for my license next time i will follow your model.

Ask yourself a another simple question everyone,

Why would anyone be against producing a valid id to vote ?
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 17, 13 9:41 AM
All I am saying is it should be one way or the other.... dont you think
Dec 16, 13 11:45 PM appended by joe hampton
They are either capable of great responsibility or they are not but you can not cherry pick to suit your needs... Think about it.
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 15, 13 11:45 PM
I always liked the drink vs vote vs die comparison. What the pundits fail to mention when juxtaposing these ages and responsibilities is that:
1. before you "die for your country" you go through bootcamp and other assorted training
2. Before you vote you do receive an education
3. No one ever points out that you never receive "training" in drinking. Schools are providing awareness but that is geared towards avoidance rather than moderation and acceptance.

Personally I think ...more
By Hambone (508), New York on Dec 16, 13 10:21 AM
Other points to throw into the discussion:

1. Call it maturity but it is proven that the human brain makes better more rationale decisions after the age of 25 than in your teen yours.
2. If you hold that the first point is true then you'd restrict many rights or privileges.
3. The age of consent in some states is 16. That seems to have more consequences than a beer or a vote
By Hambone (508), New York on Dec 16, 13 10:26 AM
Well on the other hand our wonderful leader of America wants us to provide medical insurance for our kids till there 27 years old. maybe we should make the drinking and voteing age 27 as well, And send them to war at 16. This Country is going down the wrong road! .
By capt. Jack (17), Southampton on Dec 16, 13 10:41 AM
It's 26 to keep them covered while completing an education.

Did you think before you pressed "Submit"?
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 16, 13 1:07 PM
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" . . . another sweeping generality . . . "

Ah!

A spark of self-reflective awareness . . .

Peace on Earth.
By PBR (4910), Southampton on Dec 16, 13 7:12 PM
Actually, if you are completing a Master's degree right after attaining a Bachelor's, then you probably will be in school until you're pushing 26. Even if you only get a Bachelor's, it's kind of nice to be secure in some aspect of adult life and be covered until you are stable and have a job which carries benefits considering the ****load of money you most likely didn't have in the firstplace which was spent to get said degree.

There are kids out there who easily have 100k in educational ...more
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 16, 13 8:09 PM
What if one goes abroad, or takes a break in their education for one reason or another?

Like I said, "outside the box" smart guy...
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 16, 13 9:08 PM
Because that "break" could be for treatment of a severe illness, maybe even cancer? Many people who go abroad do it with a backpack, sleeping bag, and some bare necessities. You should try backpacking on a shoestring budget across Europe, or even this country sometime.

Maybe you'd be less blind.
Dec 18, 13 1:11 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, there are people who have to put a hold on their education for fiscal reasons out there too. Life is a crapshoot. It's one bit "what if" smart guy.
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 18, 13 1:11 AM
So everyone should take the same exact path in life to get to 26?

26 is a nice round age considering the many paths persons lives can take.

And, you assume too much.
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 19, 13 1:17 PM
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By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 16, 13 8:26 PM
Obama Wins 'Lie Of The Year' Prize For Healthcare Claims

Congrats President Obama.

By philathome (7068), Southampton on Dec 14, 13 8:51 PM
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 16, 13 8:45 PM
Can someone show me where there has been evidence of voter fraud that would require ID to vote to end said fraud?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 17, 13 11:04 AM
Can you post a link of some credibility for that marlin?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 17, 13 8:59 PM
I did and I couldn't find anything of relevance. Would you be so kind as to point me in the right direction? Perhaps you can show an election that was skewered due to voter fraud? Perhaps you can show me where the dead guy failed to report his death to the Board of Elections? And how his name on the rolls changed an election?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 18, 13 12:15 PM
Yes, as there is no proof it has ever happened. And not for nothing, Capt, try reading the Constitution, doesn't say squat about ID of any sort.
And my initial question was not answered. Mr. Spike merely said a la, Yogi.....""You could look it up"!
Perhaps you are more able to show me an election that was compromised due to voter fraud?
By But I'm a blank! (1283), Hampton Bays on Dec 18, 13 3:40 PM
leftist claptrap phillis
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 17, 13 4:39 PM
Sept 10 2013 True The Vote Releases Evidence of 353 Cases of Alleged Interstate Voter Fraud

True the Vote announced more research findings of evidence now over 353 cases of voter fraud by simultaneous voting in the same elections on August 13. True the Vote compared data from voter registration databases plus voting history in Florida and Maryland. The criteria used to identify the individuals was full name, address, and date of birth and included a check of voting history to see if ...more
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 17, 13 5:39 PM
tcm comeround my houze somtime so i can show you how i surprezz the vote
By local 84 (341), riverhead on Dec 17, 13 7:42 PM
Phil said ...kids under 21 are mature enough to go to war,but not vote?

I did not say that, you did... I said you cant have it both ways

Again...They are either capable of a greater responsibility or they are not, but you can not cherry pick to suit your needs...

So... I think your saying they are responsible enough to vote... but feel they are not responsible enough to have a cocktail ? Yes or No ?
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 17, 13 6:03 PM
Phil, Joe is not declaring war on anyone nor is he advocating taking away anyone's rights IMO. You cannot deduce either in any of his posts, even after he was asked to specify.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 17, 13 9:01 PM
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That is why I asked him directly. Short of him answering in the affirmative, we cannot speculate that that is what he meant. Could be interpreted a couple of ways. Just trying to be fair.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 18, 13 4:13 PM
All I am saying is I can't ascertain his intentions from his posts.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 18, 13 9:37 PM
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I followed up by saying it should be one way or the other.... don't you think

They are either capable of great responsibility or they are not but you can not cherry pick to suit your needs

I then asked you in your opinion... are 18 year olds adults or minors ?

Voting is a very great responsibility and should not be taken lightly... It is capable for example of many more deaths than auto accidents if you consider abortion or the decision to go to war....through the ...more
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 18, 13 10:26 PM
The age of majority is the threshold of adulthood recognized in law. It is the chronological moment when minors cease to legally be considered children and assume control over their persons, actions, and decisions,

cant have it both ways...
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 19, 13 11:29 AM
Sorry phila, ha ha ha, but he obveiously has you in a box. Itz clear you dont want to set foot in joes trap but i think he haz you

who cares we alredy won this thang (single paya, fries are up)
By local 84 (341), riverhead on Dec 17, 13 7:39 PM
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Forget it guys Phil will never answer your question directly. Hell he doesn't even remember what it was.
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 18, 13 12:31 AM
to Captn America:

There IS no problem with ineligible people voting in the United States, as the following article manifests:
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"Over the past decade Texas has convicted 51 people of voter fraud, according the state's Attorney General Greg Abbott. Only four of those cases were for voter impersonation, the only type of voter fraud ...more
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 18, 13 11:09 AM
One is to many
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 18, 13 11:58 AM
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GALLUP: RECORD HIGH SAY BIG GOV'T GREATEST THREAT TO COUNTRY...Record High in U.S. Say Big Government Greatest Threat
Now 72%
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 18, 13 3:14 PM
The po needs a photo ID to get their free stuff yo, tell em Local 84
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 18, 13 3:16 PM
to Captain America:

Your elitist perspective on voter rights is emblematic of your ideology. Whereas LIberals strive to assure that no American is deprived of the right that DESCRIBES our government, you and your colleagues want to segregate the population between those who have leapt though the restrictive hoops that you are attempting to put in place (a procedure that is so much easier for the wealthy than for the poor) and those who have not, and to strip the latter of the right that ...more
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 19, 13 11:06 AM
The problem is once again with the federal government... It has no constitutional right to limit how they distribute federal money to the states. The federal government mandating that states that set a minimum drinking age of 21 or lose federal highway money isn't a constitutional issue. It was designed to limit the rights of legal adults while continuing the allow them to go get there heads blown off.

If they are old enough to serve they are old enough to be served...Period

...more
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 19, 13 11:51 AM
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to Captn America:

Have you become entirely incapable of independent thought? Once again, you plagiarize another's work by quoting "Voter Fraud Redefined" by Matthew Vadum in the November 8, 2012, of the "American Thinker" without accreditation. (One notes that the author is a minor figure who posts exclusively on Right-Wing advocacy sites. Did you hide his authorship to disguise the fault of credibility of your source?)

Let's be clear, no one is claiming that voting fraud doesn't ...more
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 19, 13 3:51 PM
OK HH, would you be ok with a photo ID to REGISTER TO VOTE?? After that just continue the free for all as it is? What so youand the rest of the left of center gang?
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 19, 13 4:39 PM
Hog wash Phil, nothing but left wing talking points, again. Have you ever had an independent thought? A photo ID does not restrict voting rights, the po needs one to get their free stuff don't they?!
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 19, 13 5:23 PM
ACORN ENOUGH SAID!
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 19, 13 7:15 PM
ACORN ENOUGH SAID
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 19, 13 7:35 PM
well there you go you just proved captains point
By Erin 27 E (1203), southampton on Dec 19, 13 9:05 PM
70% Do Not Trust the Media to Inform about Obamacare

A new Judicial Watch poll reveals the extent to which the public has lost trust in the media as an information outlet. The survey finds that 7 out of 10 adults do not trust the media to accurately inform them about the new healthcare law and five out of ten say so strongly.
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 19, 13 7:50 PM
The point of the ad is to promote Obamacare among young adults. “Wear pajamas. Drink hot chocolate. Talk about getting health insurance,” says the ad copy.

“How do you plan to spend the cold days of December?” It includes a link to a website from the group, Organizing for Action, that includes information on how to talk to family members over the holidays about signing up for coverage under the Affordable Care Act.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Holy ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 19, 13 8:06 PM
I took personal responsibility the day I voted for Ronald Regan oh by the way I was 18
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 19, 13 8:29 PM
It appears Obama is doing to obamacare what the GOP has been trying to do since its inception....gutting it. Even prominent Democrats up for re election are running for cover.
By razza5350 (1906), East Hampton on Dec 23, 13 5:41 AM
I have personal responsibility thats why I am a Libertarian,

Dec 19, 13 8:37 PM appended by Undocumented Democrat
TCM , icon parody spot on, very funny, ROTF
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 19, 13 8:37 PM
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joe, your right florida is beautiful, it is my first time here but wowzers.

i am having a great time, hope its not to cold for all my friends on li

have a great christmas!
By Erin 27 E (1203), southampton on Dec 19, 13 9:09 PM
Michelle Obama: 'Make It a Christmas Treat' to Talk About Health Insurance

How desperate they seem
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 20, 13 5:12 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 20, 13 8:21 AM
Days of effort and scores of posts by Right- Wingers on this thread have failed to produce any concrete evidence that imposters posing as registered voters exist in significant numbers. Opponents, on the other hand, HAVE posted the data showing that they do not. (ABC News reports, for instance, that there were a total of 26 such imposters out of a total of 197 MILLION voters in recent federal elections.) Since this type of voter fraud is the ONLY voter fraud against which the photo voter i.d. ...more
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 20, 13 10:07 AM
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WTF are you scared of HAT HEAD everyone is who they say they are. One again you champion on the side of disgrace
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 20, 13 4:36 PM
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This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 20, 13 10:56 AM
Ah, the message of Peace on Earth seems alive and well . . .

Have a good weekend.
By PBR (4910), Southampton on Dec 20, 13 5:11 PM
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Haha, yes it is! Peace be with you PBR.

...and these guys wonder why no one else wants to join in on the discussion.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 21, 13 9:30 PM
to They call me:

What scares me are mean-spirited, Right-Wing fanatics who are willing contemptibly to traduce their countrymen and thoughtlessly to trample on constitutional guarantees whenever it suits their invidious agenda.
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 20, 13 7:19 PM
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hhs, how about we just automatically record a liberal progressive vote for every African American in the country would that satisfy you ?

After all why should they have to put any effort into the process when some guy I did not know before my grandfather even came to this country enslaved there great great grandfather

Stop the BS already they cane get id like everyone else if it means anything to them.
Dec 21, 13 12:27 AM appended by 27dan
President Obama Job Approval CNN/Opinion Research Approve 41 Disapprove 56 Disapprove +15.0
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 21, 13 12:27 AM
Let's have the truth stop at the buck. How about that gerrymandering we've heard so much about? The only sure fraud I know of was the servers going down in the '04 election, and a beautiful moment was when Anonymous stopped Karl Rove and his cronies from pulling the same stunt in 2012.

Additionally, there has been a minimum wage since 1938. During the ensuing years up until the present it has been raised twenty three times. Twenty one raises were under a Democratic Congress.

Who ...more
Dec 21, 13 2:32 AM appended by Mr. Z
And, I present my ID every time I've ever voted at the Community House. Doesn't bother me in the slightest...
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 21, 13 2:32 AM
Are We Rome?: The Fall of an Empire and the Fate of America, by Cullen Murphy

"The rise and fall of ancient Rome has been on American minds from the beginning of our republic.Today we focus less on the Roman Republic than on the empire that took its place. Depending on who’s doing the talking, the history of Rome serves as either a triumphal call to action or a dire warning of imminent collapse. In Are We Rome? the esteemed editor and author Cullen Murphy reveals a wide array of similarities ...more
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 21, 13 11:50 PM
Lets see, show ID then vote, seems pretty straight forward to me.

Where is the cheating

I must be stupid but it seems logical that all the potential for cheating is present when you do not show a valid ID

I cant believe that even has to be said out loud.
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 21, 13 12:21 AM
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Showing a photo ID does not hinder anyone from exercising their RIGHT to vote. IS that PC enough? Seems as if dissenting opinions are reported as innapropriate
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 21, 13 7:47 AM
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And what about the elderly? I was at DMV a few months ago and two elderly people were there having paperwork checked for an ID card for a friend. The friend was 97 and in a nursing home and was going to be transported by ambulance the following day to the DMV to get the photograph needed and they were there a day early to make sure the documents were in order. Don't you find this a bit onerous for someone who had voted for over seventy years? My mother died at 89 and never had a driver's license ...more
By VOS (1183), WHB on Dec 21, 13 11:49 AM
"Easy.... absentee, same as the military."

Come on, Cap - that makes no sense. Do you want to establish two different sets of requirements? Do you not see the inequality in that? If you can register and vote through the mail without any ID, why don't all your fictional fraudulent voters just vote from home? What are you accomplishing that way?

ADMIT IT! You haven't really thought this through at all, have you?
By VOS (1183), WHB on Dec 21, 13 11:54 PM
Since there is NO problem with imposters voting, there is NO legitimate reason to require photo voter i.d.s. Pathetically, extremist Right-Wingers attempt to disguise the law's real intent (of preventing poor, minority voters from casting their Democratic ballots) by asserting that they "just know" that fraudulent voting is widespread, even if they CAN'T produce a single shred of evidence in proof.

Do they take us for fools? Theirs is the same party that eliminated early voting in Florida ...more
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 21, 13 11:17 AM
"poor minority" voters need a photo ID to get government hand outs, no one seems to find an issue with that! Your assertion that it's difficult is incorrect. All your verbose, pompous blather doesn't change THAT fact.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 21, 13 11:33 AM
to bigfresh:

In customary extremist Right-Wing fashion, you misconstrue an inalienable right as a mere privilege since it suits your agenda of the moment.
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 21, 13 12:27 PM
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how you people digress wasn't this atricle on selling to underage kids?
By xtiego (696), bridgehampton on Dec 21, 13 5:49 PM
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The "open air forum" they tried a few years back didn't catch on.

But, you'd be surprised how many people read this and don't post...
By Mr. Z (11272), North Sea on Dec 22, 13 12:38 AM
All early voting SHOULD be elimanated... It gives people like Barry Soetoro and Van Jones countless days to pick up and sign up hoards of voters though community organizing in exchange for a carton of cigs of even cash .

Voting should be from the heart and everyone should have the same burden to get ID and make it to the polling place on Election Day . Hell I would walk 10 miles in the snow and lose two days pay if that was what it took to vote.
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 21, 13 10:51 PM
to joe hampton:

Fortunately for the republic, joe, you don't make the rules. Every citizen has the right to vote, period. It's none of your presumptuous business why he chooses to do so.

Only the extremist Right-Wing thinks that it is entitled by virtue of its unique moral superiority to decide which OTHER Americans should be extended the franchise.
By highhatsize (4002), East Quogue on Dec 22, 13 12:02 AM
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Every citizen has the right to vote... I agree... but unmolested and of his own accord
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 22, 13 10:48 AM
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And the left's war on Christianity continues unabated , cheered on in the name of diversity. Same cheerleaders as the anti Duck Dynasty gaggle.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 22, 13 8:16 AM
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College educated self made millionaire lost nothing. However America may lose the most successful unscripted show ever. Thats a lot of "rednecks" phil.
I hope they try to affect the hunting stores. They will really find out about the silent majority then.
Heck phil you love stats. How about a tutorial on the incredible success that "redneck" has had.
By double-D (96), southampton on Dec 22, 13 10:43 AM
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“In the five-and-a-half years I’ve worked at GLAAD, I’ve never received so many violently angry phone calls and social media posts attacking GLAAD for us speaking out against these comments,” the media watchdog organization’s vice president of communications Rich Ferraro told CNNs residant D bag Piers Morgan
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 22, 13 11:10 AM
O'Reilly is a putz.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 13 8:18 AM
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I ask you this hhs... what percentage of black and old people in this country who participated in early voted did so without help or enticement from a community organizer, neighbor or grandchild. you cant answer that question nor can I and I say their is far to much room for Shenanigans ala Acorn
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 22, 13 10:58 AM
Even Hillary would agree with you.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 13 12:03 PM
Mr editor, I was just thinking about your policy to limit the amount of non subscribers to two comments a day. It seems you are in some ways punishing your most loyal visitors, I would go as far as to say contributers that bring in many others who all read your advertisers banners. It gives people like Phil an unfair advantage in the war of ideas since to prove his proclamations false takes more than two posts. So he is free to bully other posters around with his propaganda. Some of us out here ...more
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 22, 13 12:16 PM
27dan, are you assuming that your two daily guest comments are NOT traceable . . . ?
By PBR (4910), Southampton on Dec 22, 13 12:46 PM
C'mon Dan, we don't win arguments by silencing the opposition. That is the proverbial slippery slope. We win on merit.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 13 1:25 PM
Haha, touche.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 13 1:57 PM
I did advocate taking away anyones right to sound foolish, If you go back and read what I said my objection was in the squelching of the non subscribers. Yes I am a public figure and wish to remain anonymous as certain people such as yourself would use my opinion against me in a free market system. Its just good business common sense. It has noting to do with the meeker subscription cost just a privacy concern. I would like it if non of us had our first amendment rights squelched. It lets you run ...more
Dec 22, 13 4:08 PM appended by 27dan
That should have siad - I did NOTadvocate taking away anyones right to sound foolish. (Phil)
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 22, 13 4:08 PM
You are correct in assuming this Dan, After all look what just happened to Phil from Duck Dynasty these progressives will boycott, cry and picket

They will stop at nothing and do what ever it takes for your children see there way of life as natural.but this will never happen. It is not good enough for the majority to say live and let live. No, they want to jam there lifestyle your up your #**
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 22, 13 4:22 PM
literally , haa
By local 84 (341), riverhead on Dec 22, 13 4:24 PM
but reale come on Danny boy is correct

We should not be charged to speak our mind What is that ! Neva seen it on other papers, Very petty indeed
By local 84 (341), riverhead on Dec 22, 13 4:28 PM
Yes local but no one is forcing one to come on this site. This site is private property. Their house, their rules. Don't get me wrong playa, I love your posts;)
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 22, 13 4:46 PM
Gotta love the liberals, free speech is great, ------as long as they agree with what you say, if not , the gloves come off, the spin machine goes to work and the media jumps in. Pitiful. Speak out in favor of traditional marriage and they throw a true hissy fit, it is their sacred cow du jour.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 22, 13 5:03 PM
Michael Morell, director of obama's task force on surveillance, said in an interview on Sun. that the controversial telephone data-collection program conducted by the NSA should be expanded to emails. He said the program is necessary and could prevent the next 9/11.
I say, Bull Shat, Given the choice between security and freedom, I'll take the freedom.

"Those who sacrifice freedom for security will have neither."
-Benjamin Franklin
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 22, 13 5:17 PM
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WOW Just WOW haven't heard a B B B BUT BUSH excuse in a while! It's ALL on your boy Barry Phil, surveillance ,the economy , the failure that IS Obamacare, all of it!!! The regime has been in power for 5 years, they own all of it.Epic fail.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 23, 13 7:42 AM
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oh bs bush started the program to monitor calls placed outside the US only... Barry expanded the program to monitor all of us and it is f sickening
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 23, 13 8:47 AM
Yes, but you stopped bitching from the trees about it in 2008... Its like your guy as the ball so its all good, This is something we should all be SCREAMING about... yes both me and you and Z and BF and PBR and Captain, together on this one, Because if we don't and soon were all screwed !
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 23, 13 11:18 AM
Joe, of course you have his number.
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 23, 13 8:42 PM
Joes right, Just read this from the todays Washington Post

Waltzing into office five years ago with the media’s shameless aid on a high-school-style campaign pledge of “Hope and Change,” the former community organizer from Chicago spent his last press conference of the year apologizing for everything he’s done wrong — then announcing he’s “eager to skip town” to Hawaii for “a couple days of sleep and sun.” Well, 17, but who’s ...more
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 23, 13 7:49 PM
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Ud , Please, What aren't they hiding or lying about it never ends,it is worth noting how much critical information obama has withheld from view both as a candidate in 2008, and during his 2 terms in office. here are a just a few items obama has refused to release (a complete list would fill volumes)
:Academic transcripts. His supposed academic brilliance was a major selling point, but Obama (by his own admission) was a mediocre student. His GPA at Occidental was a B-plus at best, and his entering ...more
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 23, 13 8:12 PM
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Try answering questions instead of crying about being treated unfairly.
If you win debates on merit, I am giving you the chance to do so.
It's the same thing others do on here- you dodge answering and whine when you're confronted with things
By philathome (7197), Southampton on Dec 22, 13 5:01 PM

GO AHEAD PHIL, ANSWER THOSE THINGS ABOVE , THINGS YOU HAVE BEEN DODGING FOR THE LAST 6 YEARS!
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 23, 13 8:25 PM
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By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 23, 13 8:38 PM
Typical hypocritical response to Dan, So the beat goes on

ObamaCare approval drops to record low
Support for Obama Care has dropped five percentage points in a month to a record low, according to a CNN/ORC poll released Monday.

The poll finds that just 35 percent of the public supports the law, compared to 40 percent in late November.

The drop in support indicated in the poll could be particularly troubling to the Obama administration because almost all of it came ...more
Dec 23, 13 10:13 PM appended by They call me
The drop in support indicated in the poll could be particularly troubling to the Obama administration because almost all of it came ...more from women, whose opposition rose from 54 percent to 60 percent in a month.
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 23, 13 10:13 PM
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Dan takes the time to gather up 1000 words plus about what a Snake this guy and his band of merry men are, how he lies at every turn and how the media lets him get away with it and that is the best you can do lol,

you are one of a kind Philth

Don't forget to pester uncle fester over Christmas diner about the "ACA" as per Michelle's instructions.

Merry CHRISTMAS!
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 23, 13 10:25 PM
Merry Crhistmas
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 24, 13 2:33 AM
Twas the night before Christmas, when all through the house
Not a creature was stirring, not even a mouse.
The stockings were hung by the chimney with care,
In hopes that St Nicholas soon would be there.

The children were nestled all snug in their beds,
While visions of sugar-plums danced in their heads.
And mamma in her ‘kerchief, and I in my cap,
Had just settled our brains for a long winter’s nap.

When out on the lawn there arose such a clatter,
I ...more
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 24, 13 12:05 AM
Merry Christmas to all!
By dnice (2345), Hampton Bays on Dec 24, 13 8:02 AM
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MERRY CHRISTMAS TO OUR DISFUNCTIONAL FAMILY HERE AT 27 EAST!!!! And a healthy and happy New Year to you and yours! That being said, Come on Phil, there are a lot of questions about your buy Barry that deserve more than a snarky one sentence answer. Care to take the time to debunk them one at a time? Here's your chance to answer your critics point by point. Put on your pajamas , break out the hot chocolate and get to it!
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 24, 13 8:07 AM
L:OLLLLLLLLLLLLLL Thanks B F you made me laugh
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 24, 13 9:11 AM
You got a better chance of seeing Santa tonight then Phil answering point by point BF haaa

MERRY CHRISTMAS !!!
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 24, 13 10:53 AM
Ohhhh Snap, He left you out by design Joe, Ha ha ha lol funny little man even included Local 84 lol Too Funny!
By Undocumented Democrat (1929), southampton on Dec 24, 13 2:49 PM
;)
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 24, 13 4:43 PM
Peace on earth , good will towards man.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 25, 13 12:12 PM
There was some Obamacare conversation last night as we gathered at a friends' home for a Christmas celebration. Those of us who are self employed had received cancellation notices or notices of much higher deductibles , some of those with employer provided insurance have to pay a lot more for their insurance and have a much higher deductible, needless to say, Der Fuhrer was roundly criticized. Even the staunchest liberals there couldn't believe how truly screwed up the whole situation is. Not one ...more
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 26, 13 7:58 AM
yes it was the same in florida were we spent the holidays with family. most said they wish they had a chance to have a do over on there vote for mr. o
By Erin 27 E (1203), southampton on Dec 26, 13 6:23 PM
Same over here and there were 30 or so adults
By joe hampton (3341), south hampton on Dec 26, 13 12:57 PM
Snowden cites Orwell in Christmas message
By Associated Press
December 26, 2013 | 9:10am
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LONDON — NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden invoked George Orwell and warned of the dangers of obama government surveillance in a televised Christmas message.

Speaking directly into the camera from Moscow, where he took refuge after leaking vast troves of information on NSA spying, Snowden said government surveillance methods far surpass those described in Orwell’s dystopic ...more
By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 26, 13 2:03 PM
it is very creepy
By Erin 27 E (1203), southampton on Dec 26, 13 6:20 PM
But it's OK, Der Fuhrer has our best interest at heart!!!! Don't worry, all is well.
By bigfresh (4309), north sea on Dec 27, 13 7:36 AM
A&E CAVES: PHIL ROBERTSON BACK IN

'DUCK' REUNITED...

GAY ACTIVISTS GROUP DELIVERED STINGING DEFEAT...

1st Amendment Upheld now lets make dam sure the 22nd stands as well !

By They call me (2674), southampton on Dec 28, 13 1:28 AM

GLAAD has worn out it's relevance much as the NAACP and others fighting the currently nonexistent battle. Hello, African American President. Shakedown artist need to be called out for what they are. We are an evolving inclusive society and getting more inclusive by the day. So get over it.
By 27dan (2694), Southampton on Dec 29, 13 1:06 PM
bay street, sag harbor,