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Jun 13, 2012 12:39 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Opponents And Supporters Of CPI Proposal Sound Off At Public Hearing

Jun 13, 2012 1:51 PM

Supporters of the project, some of whom led the charge to save the CPI building and have applauded the Rechlers’ plans, said that opponents are overstating how far afield the project is from what would be allowed without the zoning relief being requested.

“I understand people have different opinions. My problem is when they have a different set of facts,” said Hampton Bays resident Richard Casabianca. “There is some underlying ability for 33 condos to rise, like, tomorrow. So the difference is seven, not 40. Does that sound like fact? The underlying zoning, as far as the environment goes, it would require no sewage treatment on either side of the canal—one side is better than no side. Have opinions, but deal with fact, and then you really can see what’s what.”

A habit of objection to any sort of development may be driving a certain amount of the opposition to the project, said Brenda Sinclair, another Hampton Bays resident, adding that many people in the hamlet think having the CPI as an event hall is an important asset to the area.

“My son, who is in 10th grade, has almost 300 signatures of kids who live in this town who said, ‘Why can’t we have a prom in Hampton Bays?’” she said. “Nobody wants to build on the canal. I would hazard a guess that half of you didn’t want your neighbors to build their house.”

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40 townhouses?! They should talk to the developers of canoe place landing, they are having a hard time selling those units. So, unless they plan to sell them for approx. $275k to $375k (average cost of homes selling here) they should reconsider their plans. Stuck between the highways and railroad tracks....good luck guys! all the poewr to you, as long as the property taxes are paid.
By 1bigfish (18), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 12 8:59 PM
Ummm....see next-to-last back page of this week's Dan's Papers. There is a big ad for Canoe Place Landing saying "Only 4 left!" with prices starting at $499,000 to $629,000. Open House this weekend, if anyone is interested.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jun 15, 12 10:21 PM
Actually that is untrue. The developers of Canoe Place Landing lost their financial backing and were unable to start start the project.

There were those who were interested in purchasing the units but clearly they needed financial backing to actually undertake the project. People do plunk down the entire purchase price of something that is barely past the ground breaking stage.
By bb (907), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 12 11:12 PM
Oops I just realized I thought you were talking about the Allen's Acres site, which was mentioned at the meeting. That is the project without $$.
By bb (907), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 12 7:22 AM
“The Rechlers will say, ‘Oh, we’re going to renovate the CPI’—well, that brings to mind the song from the play ‘Chicago’: the old ‘Razzle Dazzle,’” quipped Marilynda Vianna. “They’re going to slap some paint on the CPI so they can circumvent the zoning laws. You talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk. You gotta say: no more density in Hampton Bays.”

I'm not even sure what this means. Exactly how do you talk the ...more
By bb (907), Hampton Bays on Jun 13, 12 11:18 PM
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Some research into the amount of campaign donations from the Rechlers to the Town Supervisor and others is in order. Don't you think?
By Woohampton (35), Westhampton Beach on Jun 14, 12 7:06 AM
Why?
By bb (907), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 12 5:37 PM
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On disallowed zoning applications involving waivers and special approvals, the Town Board members should all disclose the amount of "campaign contributions" provided by applicants or developers in the past.

This is an obvious source of corruption that elected officials have not done, allowing them to hide ulterior motives on controversial decisions that are not in the interests of citizens and their community.

If Councilors and the Supervisor wish to vote against zoning laws, ...more
By Obbservant (443), southampton on Jun 19, 12 2:44 PM
Hampton Bays is lucky they have investors with such deep pockets to see a project like this through. i don't know what Ms Vianna is looking at but Hampton Bays is turning into major disrepair. Every other house has multible families living in them, and Main St looks like a Mexico City Bazaar. Why don't you complain about that?
By chief1 (2768), southampton on Jun 14, 12 2:12 PM
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C'mon chief.

We wouldn't need their "deep pockets" if the economy wasn't so screwed up.
By Mr. Z (11554), North Sea on Jun 16, 12 12:15 AM
So, you're saying we shouldn't do things to improve the economy because the economy is in the dumper? Come on Z, let's put people to work and improve the town. Chief is wrong as far as what Main St looks like - it has none of the vigor of a bazaar, but this proposal can;t help but work to solve that.
By VOS (1224), WHB on Jun 19, 12 11:52 PM
No, that's not what I'm saying.

The economy is in the dumper because of irresponsible policies that handed cash out to "deep pockets" like lollipops at the teller window. Too hard, too much, too fast, and now we are overpopulated, and overdeveloped. It is idiotic, and grossly irresponsible to have the population density which exists on this island.

I'd almost swear they the Wachowski brothers looked at this place, and that's where the got the idea for Agent Smith's speech.


I'd ...more
Jun 20, 12 12:48 AM appended by Mr. Z
You may want to read Paul Krugman's op-ed piece in the New York Times. Some scathing stuff regarding Greece, the Euro, and American bailouts...
By Mr. Z (11554), North Sea on Jun 20, 12 12:48 AM
A new motel should be built to help allivate the over crowding on North Road.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Jun 14, 12 7:55 PM
Hey that's a good idea. I understand it is actually zoned for a motel.
By bb (907), Hampton Bays on Jun 14, 12 8:26 PM
Nuke the eyesore and let the Rechlers build what the law allows (& no more), without trading on the delusions of the sappy crowd that has some vague idea of a restored Canoe Place Inn. Let it go.
By fidelis (199), westhampton beach on Jun 18, 12 9:23 AM
"..build what the law allows"...Careful what you wish for!
See SH Town CPI application Pre-Submission Report, particularly pages 23 and 24 for what current zoning would allow.
http://southamptontownny.gov/filestorage/72/837/3269/4030/Pre-Submission-Report.pdf
Maybe the Inn's sappy and delusional neighbors would vaguely prefer the idea of a 98,000 sq. ft. nightclub, for instance, but probably not.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jun 18, 12 10:23 AM
"..build what the law allows"...Careful what you wish for!
See SH Town CPI application Pre-Submission Report, particularly pages 23 and 24 for what current zoning would allow.
http://southamptontownny.gov/filestorage/72/837/3269/4030/Pre-Submission-Report.pdf
Maybe the Inn's sappy and delusional neighbors would vaguely prefer the idea of a 98,000 sq. ft. nightclub, for instance, but probably not.
By PQ1 (167), hampton bays on Jun 18, 12 10:23 AM
My main concern is that the town put safeguards in to ensure that the Rechslers complete the project and don't suddenly "discover" that there are structural or other problems that can not be overcome.

Much of the eastern portion of the building has no foundation and is built on piers. Much of the western portion is constructed of clay building blocks that have been crumbling for forty years. The third floor hallway looks like a roller coaster track due to settling. There are a lot ...more
By VOS (1224), WHB on Jun 19, 12 11:59 PM
Why would they chose to not do the project? I don't see how that benefit them. They spend scads of money to work up plans, etc. do all this foot work and go OOPs didn't know that the floor of this 90 year old building has settled? LOL
By bb (907), Hampton Bays on Jul 11, 12 10:51 PM
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