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Jul 8, 2019 3:43 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

OLA Hosts Gathering In Sag Harbor To Support Local Immigrants

Minerva Perez, executive director of OLA, addresses the volunteers at Christ Episcopal Church in Sag Harbor on July 3.
Jul 9, 2019 1:10 PM

As people flocked to the region last week to celebrate America’s independence with backyard barbecues and glasses of rosé, East End locals got together to confront a sobering American reality facing immigrant families.

At the Christ Episcopal Church in Sag Harbor on July 3, Organización Latino-Americana of Eastern Long Island, or OLA—a nonprofit Latino advocacy agency—hosted a gathering to encourage community members to act locally to support immigrants right here.

“I am here, OLA is here, and you are all here for a reason,” said Minerva Perez, executive director of OLA, to a room full of willing volunteers. “We have needless suffering and fear and danger here, and we need your act of engagement.”

To that end, the organization is offering a host of different initiatives despite continuing threats by President Donald Trump to deport immigrants who are in the country illegally, as well as expected U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement raids.

On a government level, community members can engage through court observation, helping to gather information and monitor what goes on day to day in local courts. Ms. Perez emphasized that experts in this area are not needed. “We are looking for people who live in those towns to observe what goes on in their own towns or villages,” she said.

“I think it’s really made a difference, because no one’s ever observed,” said OLA volunteer Jackie Gavron, who visits court in East Hampton on Wednesdays and Thursdays. “You look at the tone, you look at the language, you look at how different people are spoken to.”

Community members also can assist OLA’s human rights attorney, Andrew Strong, with analysis of documents obtained through Freedom of Information Law requests that can often shed light on important trends happening in the law enforcement system.

“OLA … is dedicated to doing this massive amount of work as an adjunct to towns and municipalities and police forces,” Ms. Perez said, adding that the organization will share its findings back with local governments.

OLA is also initiating a dedicated public education team that will aim to engage with school districts, acting as a resource for them, as well as study enrollment policies that may differ from district to district.

In the 23 East End school districts, Ms. Perez said, Latinos make up an average of at least 45 percent of the student body, a number she said likely is lower than reality. They are “setting high academic bars for themselves and their peers,” Ms. Perez said.

One student who has done just that is Jon Lopez, a first-generation American, Sag Harbor local and second-year student at Georgetown University. He just took a gap semester to serve as OLA’s administrative assistant and youth liaison, helping to launch Latino youth leadership dinners aimed to “uplift each other,” he said.

The first one was held a few weeks ago and, thanks to social media, word spread fast. About 15 kids showed up ready to engage and learn from one another, he said.

“It’s really nice to gather students who are just like me who are able to vent about issues that they see in school, or whether they have dreams of becoming a surgeon, or a doctor, or attending some Ivy League school, or being able to take some sort of vocational path,” Mr. Lopez said. “A lot of these kids who are just like me have so much aspirations and dreams … what we need, in my opinion, from the community is possibly more mentors.”

The recent passing of the “Green Light NY” bill—considered a big win for the community, as it gives undocumented immigrants the ability to obtain driver’s licenses—also creates a need for local driver’s license mentors. These mentors would ensure that those seeking licenses are adequately prepared, whether that means helping them gather the correct documents or study for related tests.

“Having people in the community stand with someone and help them through that process—it’s a new process—just feels so much better, and it’s really key to making this work,” Ms. Perez said.

Other areas mentioned during the gathering include medical transportation assistance and family ambassadors, which would help the Latino community better navigate the area. “There are people in our community who are kind of lost even if they’ve been here for a bit,” Ms. Perez said, adding that needs could be as simple as helping a family obtain a library card.

With all these initiatives and a community eager to help, Ms. Perez still acknowledged that threats against immigrants on a national level aren’t going away yet. That makes local engagement all the more important.

“What’s missing a lot is our ability to envision the future where this community has survived because of the empathy and action of our fellow community members,” she said. “If we can really envision this thing, we are going to create it.”

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Bravo to OLA!
By tenn tom (255), remsenburg on Jul 9, 19 7:25 AM
Bravo to open borders? Bravo to the mass violation of our immigration laws? Bravo to the open, brazen, and traitorous support of illegal aliens and the vast network of cartel connected human smugglers?

Why do you believe illegal aliens have the absolute and unquestionable right to enter our country and stay here regardless of our laws?

Is it because you think this nation is illegitimate, unworthy of controlling it's borders or immigration?

Is every single person "escaping ...more
By MoronEliminator (215), Montauk on Jul 9, 19 9:33 AM
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Hey Moron, can you point me to where anyone said "illegal aliens have the absolute and unquestionable right to enter our country and stay here regardless of our laws"?

Thanks!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 9:39 AM
For the past few weeks the incendiary cant of the true believers on this forum has been even more mindless than usual. (Assuming that's possible.) The paradoxically named Moron Eliminator's absurd asseveration above is representative.

Not, as I have said before, that I object to it. Any rational person who reads their infantile schoolyard jabber comes away with the sure knowledge that these yahoos are crazy.

Folks whose reason has not been fatally corrupted by brutish belief ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 9, 19 11:35 AM
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Bloviation

By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 3:30 PM
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Thank you for supplying the word I was looking for! I was reading HHS' comment and thinking - there has to be a word for someone who regurgitates a bunch of big adjectives and synonyms to make themselves appear smugly smarter than everyone else while saying absolutely nothing of substance or responding to the topic of discussion.
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Jul 9, 19 3:58 PM
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You hit the nail on the head, took a few words to get there.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 4:07 PM
@ Sturgis & localEH

Knuckle-draggers
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 9, 19 4:14 PM
Rise above, Hat. Remember that when you wrestle with a pig both of you might get dirty but the pig likes it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 5:02 PM
Good one!

"Never argue with a fool, onlookers may not be able to tell the difference!"

Mark Twain

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (297), Sag Harbor on Jul 9, 19 5:22 PM
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Credit to George Bernard Shaw for the quote, though it's the only thing I know about him.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 10:44 PM
Right back at ya HHS & you too FBHG ...puppet....
Jul 10, 19 11:28 AM appended by Sturgis
Hahahaha Whatever you say FBHG Hey why don’t you open your door to some immigrants? Immigrants that have not been vetted ... Complete strangers Have an answer for that Or do you need to hash it out?
By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 10, 19 11:28 AM
Thanks, Sturgis! Do you want to tell us about your conspiracy theory surrounding Parkland today, or are you still hashing it out?
Jul 10, 19 11:43 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Thanks for ignoring the question! I wouldn't want people to know if I supported false flag conspiracy theories either. As to your question, why would I?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 10, 19 11:43 AM
Seek help already....sheesh....
Classic traits of an instigating ,petulant bully ......
Stick to the subject in this particular article ....

Your response is , “ why would I”... that’s interesting ....

You wouldn’t but you expect the country to do that ....ok makes sense ....

By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 8:27 AM
He’s not a bully for calling you out on your bs
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 8:31 AM
Please specify where I said immigrants should be housed for free or let in the country without vetting!

Also please keep trying to dodge talking about your support for false flag conspiracy theories!

I think it gives readers some important context about you!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 8:42 AM
What BS...?
Please
He knows EXACTLY what I’m talking about and is absolutely beside himself because I won’t, lay it all out ...
I even gave my reasons as to why I would not post certain things but he would not stop pretending to be obtuse....

Epitome of a bully




Now we’re on a COMPLETELY different subject but he will not stop harping on a dead subject.

And you’re just a fan ....


Fred have you opened YOUR ...more
By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 1:20 PM
Exactly, I never said that immigrants should be housed for free or let in the country without vetting.

I don't remember your reasons for choosing to bring up but not elaborating on your false flag conspiracy theory about Parkland. Can you remind me?

I keep harping because I think the fact you hold false flag conspiracy theories about a school shooting gives readers important context about you.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 1:49 PM
@ Sturgis

Well, "I" don't know what you're talking about and "I" don't remember your comments about Parkland but if Fore1gnBornHBgrown's implication that you thought that the Democrats KILLED ALL THOSE CHILDREN TO DISCREDIT THE CAUSE OF 2ND AMENDMENT ADVOCATES[?] is accurate, I'd like to know.

Because that would be truly, truly crazy, you know, even considering the "normal" spectrum of dementia that is the realm, exclusively, of true believer "thought."

Please, enlighten ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 11, 19 1:50 PM
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I should clarify: my intention isn't to imply that Sturgis believes Democrats are to blame, nor that he believes they did it to discredit the cause of 2nd amendment advocates.

In fact, I have no real idea what Sturgis believes was the motive for what he alleges was a false flag attack at Parkland, and no matter how many times I ask he won't elaborate. He seemed to imply it had something to do with an active shooter training the Sheriff's office provided to a Florida mosque, but that's as ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 1:57 PM
" Fake Postings "
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 11, 19 2:00 PM
What do you mean, Marlin?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 2:28 PM
That’s a bs answer.im not advocating for open borders. When you seek asylum, you have certain rights. One is you have to be in the USA to do so. Trump has mishandled the whole thing. They are not illegal if they are seeking asylum. As a side note, why aren’t all the people who are against abortion not adopting many children? That’s the same foolish argument you make for taking in immigrants.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 2:46 PM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

Quote:

"He seemed to imply it had something to do with an active shooter training the Sheriff's office provided to a Florida mosque ..."
--------------------------

I think that I see part of the source of your confusion, Fore1gnBornHBgrown. You forgot that Sturgis is a true believer. Since it's called, "Active Shooter Training" (and since true believers never look beyond the title), Sturgis doubtless believes that it's a course on how to BE an ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 12, 19 9:12 AM
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Hahahaha uh no ....
Besides
Stick to the subject HHS

By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 13, 19 10:33 PM
It sure would be nice, Hat. Alas, I think we'll never truly learn what Sturgis' false flag conspiracy theory about Parkland actually entails.

What we do know is he has one and that should be enough to keep any rational person from taking him seriously.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 19 11:05 PM
the only immigrants scared are those who broke our laws by illegally entering our country. the only illegal immigrants being rounded up for deportation are those who failed to appear for their court date to determine if they meet the standards to stay here, or those who were denied entry and refused to leave. Sorry liberals but they are criminal aliens and should be sent back to where they came. There are millions of immigrants waiting for their turn via the legal method. Anyone helping a criminal ...more
By Walt (292), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 9:32 PM
Please...
You’re a joke
It’s YOUR assumption I think it’s a FFC
However why not stick to the subject
Let all of us know when you invite some undocumented strangers into your home then you’ll be taken seriously
By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 9:37 AM
I'm not suggesting the U.S. should welcome unvetted strangers, so why would I? Having said that, if a family showed up at my door in the middle of the night seeking refuge, you bet I'd offer a helping hand.

Back to your false flag conspiracy theory, what then DO you actually think, Sturgis?

You have the floor: please explain why you're telling folks to question the facts as the know them in regard to the school shooting in Parkland. While you're at it, please tell us what you think ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 9:50 AM
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By Win sky (57), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 10:46 AM
Investigated for what?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 11:19 AM
ola is not helping our country, just helping a many ILLEGAL people drain the resources from our area. Our schools, hospitals, housing and other services are being drained by these ILLEGAL people.
My grandparents immigrated here LEGALLY from europe to Ellis Island for a new life. They worked here, paid taxes and became CITIZENS of our USA. They gave to the country
DRAIN OUR SWAMP...
By knitter (1898), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 11:13 AM
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Fyi, undocumented people pay taxes too.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 11:23 AM
Hey FB, I have to chime in here...illegal immigrants CAN pay taxes if they file for a tax I.D. akin to a corporation or someone that is self-employed. They cannot legally be an employee with a valid I-9 with the requisite withholding taxes. Not commenting on anything else here, but I had to go through all of this as part of my corporate tax audits - Independent Contractors versus Employee audits are brutal...like a colonoscopy without anesthesia...just one level up from unclaimed property.
By G.A.Lombardi (551), Hampton Bays on Jul 9, 19 12:33 PM
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None of what you said is wrong. I'm pointing out that they pay sales taxes at a minimum, as well as FICA for those who work on the books (either with authorization via DACA or using a fraudulent identity).
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 12:45 PM
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By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 9, 19 1:07 PM
https://www.vox.com/2019/3/1/18241692/undocumented-immigrants-pay-state-local-taxes

$1.1 billion in taxes paid to New York State by undocumented immigrants.
Jul 9, 19 1:41 PM appended by Slightmadness
https://www.marketplace.org/2019/01/28/undocumented-immigrants-quietly-pay-billions-social-security-and-receive-no/
By Slightmadness (19), East hampton on Jul 9, 19 1:41 PM
Undocumented immigrants pay $13 Billion into social security and receive $0 out. That doesn't sound like a drain to me.
By Slightmadness (19), East hampton on Jul 9, 19 1:46 PM
Answer this; How can someone who is undocumented pay income tax if they undocumented?

By Hamptonsway (102), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 10:27 PM
DACA recipients have work authorization, for one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 10:35 PM
Two more classes of people occurred to me: those whose work visas expired and overstayed are still able to file taxes with their tax id numbers, and individuals who are in the country but want to file taxes can obtain an Individual Taxpayer ID Number.

https://www.irs.gov/individuals/individual-taxpayer-identification-number
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 11:26 PM
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Google what is an ITIN (Individual Taxpayer Identification Number).
By bmr80 (34), east quogue on Jul 10, 19 6:02 PM
They do not get FREE housing...they rents homes like many, and the owner of the house pays the taxes with the money they receive for the rent, they buy clothes, food, go to restaurants etc etc etc and when they do this they pay taxes. The ONLY ones with the RIGHT to complain are the NATIVE AMERICANS, they did not invite Europeans to come and take over their land. UNDOCUMENTED pay taxes with ITIN #'s this is a number that is given to them SO they can pay taxes. Please talk to an immigration lawyer ...more
By Mate (52), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 7:12 PM
I'm all for legal immigrants, it's the illegal and undocumented ones I object to. Is there any limit to the number of people allowed to simply cross the southern border and expect to stay here? If you allow it for them then shouldn't the same apply to people from China, India, Africa, and so on? What's the answer OLA?
By country joe (60), sag harbor on Jul 9, 19 12:42 PM
Facilitation of criminal activities is nothing to be celebrated.
By Preliator Lives (431), Obamavillie on Jul 9, 19 1:18 PM
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Please specify what criminal activity is being facilitated.

Entering illegally is the crime, not being in the country.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 9, 19 1:26 PM
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By Win sky (57), Southampton on Jul 9, 19 2:49 PM
They broke the law they are illegal period what dont you understand????
By chief1 (2784), southampton on Jul 11, 19 12:11 AM
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Apparently what you don't understand is the moral dilemma of deporting people who entered illegally as kids through no choice of their own.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 10:22 AM
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I know many immigrant that have been UNDOCUMENTED for years, and now they are citizens, you wouldn't even see the difference; they don't have a mark or anything, just their situation change and VOILA, they were able to arrange their documents. I know hundreds of people that were in that situation and now they could even be somebody standing next to you!!
By Mate (52), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 7:18 PM
DOW 27,000!

Dow jumps 200 points to break above 27,000 for the first time ever PUBLISHED THU, JUL 11 2019 3:04 AM EDTUPDATED 18 MIN AGO


GO TRUMP !!!

By 27dan (2812), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 11, 19 1:18 PM
M2 as of this week: 14.7 trillion dollars

Print another couple trillion, maybe it'll hit 30,000...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 1:50 PM
The Catholic Church has a very long and well documented history of helping international criminals escape accountability and prosecution.

Look how they have spent 100s of years shuffling predatory priests from country to country. I'm sure much of what they've learned is being used here for illegal fugitives of US immigration law.

Some headlines from the same crowd that gave us this one:

"A global look at the Catholic Church's sex abuse problem - AP News"

"Sexual ...more
By even flow (988), East Hampton on Jul 11, 19 2:02 PM
Assuming all of that is true, what does it have to do with THIS group?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 11, 19 3:02 PM
Looks like his earthly disciples got sent to the wrong address
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 2:27 PM
wow the economy is doing great, good news !
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jul 11, 19 4:04 PM
Survey says: not the most popular answer

Trump has still failed to top the Obama administrations numbers in 2014. Well past the uptick from the bottom falling out.

Cheerleading a coattail rider. Sad...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 7:25 PM
now now mr z don't be such a sore loser
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jul 11, 19 8:27 PM
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Any second now the bottom's going to drop on Trump's economy and Z will rejoice and say he told us so!!!

Any second now...

Maybe if he tries holding his breath...
By joe hampton (3428), The Hamptons on Jul 11, 19 8:56 PM
Every nominal indice shows that we are headed for recession thanks to the dumbest administration ever pouring gasoline on a steady ember. And, blew a massive hole in the debt and deficit. Typical CONservative behavior for the last forty plus years. Cry about "tax and spend", but cut taxes on the wealthy at the expense of everyone else. Wall St. is not Main Street, and it never will be.

As far as the "sore loser" horse****, it proves you know nothing of which you speak. Including economics.
Jul 11, 19 10:29 PM appended by Mr. Z
The losers as of late are farmers: Chapter 12 federal court filings, a type of bankruptcy protection largely for small farmers, increased from 361 filings in 2014 to 498 in 2018, according to federal court records. “My phone is ringing constantly. It’s all farmers,” said Minneapolis-St. Paul area bankruptcy attorney Barbara May. “Their banks are calling in the loans and cutting them off.” ~ Courtesy of Reuters
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 10:29 PM
You have been predicting the end of the world for over 15 years.
By even flow (988), East Hampton on Jul 12, 19 8:29 AM
415 ppm CO2 and rising.

Even the "Great Dying" which created all the carbon we've burned since the Industrial Revolution with the exception of coal took quite some time to take. Such things are progressive and do not happen overnight.

But you're so gosh darn smart you know stuff like that...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 12, 19 1:47 PM
Weekly Jobless Claims Plunge to 209,000

The number of Americans filing for unemployment benefits fell last week, suggesting the labor market has continued to strengthen .

Initial claims dropped by 13,000 to a seasonally adjusted 209,000 for the week ended July 6, the Labor Department said on Thursday.

Obama, the food stamps president

President Trump, the jobs President

Biden, still can’t figure it out
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jul 11, 19 8:53 PM
Bush was the food stamps president. Watching Cheney run away in his wheelchair after blowing the t**s of the economy and Obama's inauguration was hilarious, actually...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 10:31 PM
Kansas finally figured it out. Apparently, the GOP economic disaster team has left their capitol. In other words, the Republican economic ignorami have left the building...


The comeback state of 2019: Kansas economy rebounds from tax-cutting disaster

WED, JUL 10 2019 6:02 PM EDT
Scott Cohn

Two years after repealing steep tax cuts, Kansas’ budget is back in the black.

Other improving states include North Dakota, North Carolina and Nebraska.

The ...more
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 11, 19 10:59 PM
They call me, the dog whistle commenter
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 11, 19 9:13 PM
Trump to Host ‘Big Meeting’ with Tech Companies on Free Speech…

LONG overdue ...
By joe hampton (3428), The Hamptons on Jul 12, 19 6:48 AM
Some would call this treason! They (government officials and big tech) are selling their own country out to line their pockets.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 12, 19 6:51 AM
All the right wing looms who are mostly banned for the extremist hate they preach, long overdue. Hahahahaha
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 12, 19 7:10 AM
Left wing bolsheviks are less than human.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 12, 19 7:18 AM
Nobody is less than human, even you Marlin :-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 9:24 AM
Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin, Mao & all their supporters are all inhuman.
Jul 13, 19 8:50 AM appended by themarlinspike
I bet you see yourself on the list.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 13, 19 8:50 AM
Nobody is less than human, even you Marlin :-)
Jul 13, 19 9:11 AM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Lol, what list, Marlin?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 19 9:11 AM
That would include a human embryo and human fetus.
Jul 14, 19 9:00 AM appended by themarlinspike
You got yourself some super corrupted foreign DNA there.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 14, 19 9:00 AM
Would it? I suppose that would depend on your definition of "nobody" right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 9:04 AM
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By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 14, 19 9:40 AM
Thanks Marlin! You're off for the rest of the day. Let's pick up again tomorrow!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 9:47 AM
Thank you amoeba
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 12, 19 8:30 AM
Nobody is more upset about illegal immigration that legal immigrants.
By even flow (988), East Hampton on Jul 12, 19 8:31 AM
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Why does the left apparently favor ILLEGALS entering the country?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 12, 19 4:13 PM
We don't. That's called a straw man.

Do you know what a straw man is?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 4:50 PM
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Most people aren't educated enough to know they're being used...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 13, 19 1:56 AM
Fore, don’t confuse him.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 12, 19 4:52 PM
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Pls explain the alt left rationale for decrying efforts to deport or detain illegals, not a straw man at all , just a simple question.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 12, 19 5:10 PM
Lol, not wanting to deport certain people, such as those who served this country or who arrived as children and grew up here, is not equivalent to not wanting to deport anyone...but anyone who approaches the topic with a minimal amount of nuance knows that.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 7:11 PM
Illegal is illegal is illegal, just not in the minds of the left, pitiful.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 12, 19 8:15 PM
There's that lack of nuance I was talking about!

We know you don't care about the moral implications of deporting people who arrived here as kids through no fault of their own. It just turns out that many people do.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 12, 19 8:44 PM
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Something... something... something... Bible>>> Sins of the Father... something.... something... Christian...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 13, 19 1:54 AM
*sigh* hypocr......something.......something......

"Now we know that the law is good, if one uses it lawfully, understanding this, that the law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, the sexually immoral, men who practice homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine,"

1 Timothy 1:8-10
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:39 AM
Lol, are you citing the bible to explain why people who entered as children through no fault of their own, and grew up as Americans in all ways except on paper, should be deported?

Hilarious.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 7:44 AM
Wonderful display of homophobia as well.

Sad...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 14, 19 7:58 AM
A. Fore....please be more careful. The original post was about legality. I posted to respond to the dopey "something...something" comment critical of Christianity by my statement. Christians obey the Law. It is unlawful to knowingly and willfully enter this country by any means other than those set by the government. A child cannot be held responsible for actions of an adult. The child lacks a culpable mental state. So, before falling off your rocker laughing, think twice about what you are reading.

B. ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 9:49 AM
I pointed out one example of illegal activity that shouldn't be prosecuted, both prior to and following you comment, which you seem to agree with.

Turns out neither the bible, nor our laws, are fully up-to-date with reality.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 10:07 AM
Is homosexuality a sin because God said so, or some men who didn't approve decided it was?

My bet is on option B.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 14, 19 10:23 PM
Illegal immigrants=votes for democrats

That’s really the answer to every immigration question you’ll ever have.
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 13, 19 11:22 PM
Non-citizens can't vote, Diseased.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 13, 19 11:51 PM
Of source they can, and they do and you know it.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 11:47 AM
If I was aware of any non-citizens voting I'd alert the proper authorities.

If you're aware of any non-citizens voting I encourage you to do the same.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 11:53 AM
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I know there are bank robberies too. It doesn't mean I know who did the robbery.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:12 PM
If you know anyone who's robbing banks, I encourage you to alert the proper authorities.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 12:33 PM
I am only aware banks are robbed.

I am only aware voting by non-citizens occurs.

Non-citizens can and do, vote, sure as banks are robbed.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:06 PM
Lol, how many people are convicted of robbing banks?

How many non-citizens are convicted of voting illegally?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:41 PM
Both are illegal. What difference does the number make?
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 11:01 AM
It would affect the probability rate at which it happens, right?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 11:15 AM
keep telling yourself that Foreign. To become a citizen one must pass a test ,correct? That test is given in ENGLISH , correct? Why are there signs in SPANISH delineating polling places?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 14, 19 6:13 AM
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Lol, aren't you the one who keeps telling yourself that voter fraud is rampant without any evidence?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 7:28 AM
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You are a conspiracy theory nut. Some lame accusations brought up by trump. You can’t research and find 3 cases of voter fraud. You should grow up.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 6:39 AM
care to respond to the question as to why there are signs in Spanish at polling places?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 14, 19 6:46 AM
So that LEGAL residents [whose primary language is Spanish] can know what the rules are?

The U. S. Constitution does not require that everyone speak only English!

[ . . . staggering . . . ]
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:02 AM
You are pegging the foolish meter,back it off a little.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:12 AM
Still sawin' away on that big fresh fiddle we see!

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (297), Sag Harbor on Jul 14, 19 12:19 PM
Yes Nero, I apologize
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 2:26 PM
PBR, boy that was a tough one. Because you read in Spanish makes you illegal? Distorted right wing thinking.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 7:10 AM
Fred, when responding to my last post, you were correct. But I should’ve clarified that the END GAME is the goal of democrats to allow the flow of illegal immigration in this country to eventually get their votes by offering FREE things. Promise those free things solely for power and control. No other reason.
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 14, 19 1:50 PM
That's a very Machiavellian view which, I think, tells us more about you and your lack of empathy than the people you're talking about.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 14, 19 1:57 PM
Diseased, if your party was the party of inclusion, they wouldn’t post racist , bigoted and homophobic comments. You are distorting views to suit your point of view. Keep up the good work
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 2:14 PM
@ DiseaseDiocese

Madness.

A ludicrous, completely unsubstantiatable (because it is complete poo) fanatical BELIEF born entirely of mindless, irrational prejudice.

Is short, the same old same old true believer cant.
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 14, 19 2:43 PM
the citizenship test is in English , no need to pander to those who obviously can read English, that is IF they are actually citizens.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 14, 19 4:32 PM
@ bigfresh

Simply WRONG once again.* Your ignorance is ever reliable.

* U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services - - - Other Languages - - - Exceptions and Accommodations - - - English Language Exemptions
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 14, 19 5:28 PM
Bf, post 3 instances of voter fraud by non citizens. We can’t even get citizens to vote, and you think we have voter fraud with non citizens.you are sounding like a broken record, a bad record at that.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 14, 19 4:52 PM
Trump Says Ilhan Omar Should Go Back to Africa: ‘You Can’t Leave Fast Enough’
MEDIAITE - By Tommy ChristopherJul 14th, 2019, 9:38

How do I know Trump is doing a great job? All I have to do is skim the headlines, see who he pisses off, and get on with yet another great day!

MAGA
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jul 15, 19 7:09 AM
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Nobody is surprised that you support racism.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 7:54 AM
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@ They call me

The profundity of Trump's stupidity becomes more apparent with each passing day. (Three of the four congresswomen whom he told to "go back where you came from" are natural born Americans.) Frighteningly, it is getting worse.

On can only hope that a cranial MRI to detect organic brain damage is scheduled at the next presidential health check-up.
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 15, 19 8:11 AM
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What the heck are you even talking about?! These are AMERICAN CITIZENS. How can you support Trump making such a statement?! If you're ok with this, you're now displaying your hate to OUR OWN U.S. CITIZENS and we've reached another level completely regarding intolerance in this country! You should be thoroughly ashamed at yourself.
By 2329702 (67), East Quogue on Jul 15, 19 8:17 AM
Sparking outrage is the point. The more time and energy we spend talking about it, the more successful it was.

Let's just call it racist like we all know it is and move on.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 8:33 AM
@ Fore1gnBornHBgrown

I think that it is a mistake to ascribe PURPOSE to Trump's mental eructations. They are, rather, utterly irrational symptoms of the progressive degeneration of his neural circuitry.

Let's just hope we get him out before system failure causes him to push the nuclear button.
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 15, 19 10:53 AM
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Mental illness is one possibility.

Riling up both supporters and opponents alike is my bet, though.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 11:00 AM
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Trumps bigoted racist tweet only excites his base. You forgot he told them all to go back where there came from. If you think it’s a good tweet, you fall into the bigot and racist category.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 7:18 AM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/14/us/politics/trump-twitter-race.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

TRUMP SUPPORTERS - You have no respect for this country, the flag, the constitution or the people. So SHUT UP!
Anyone who still supports this racist, xenophobic, POS can just get the hell out.
By Polandspring (96), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 8:55 AM
"How do I know Trump is doing a great job? All I have to do is skim the headlines, see who he pisses off, and get on with yet another great day!"

You know it.

Keep America Great!
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 11:42 AM
See, folks? It's not about being right or moral, it's about getting under your opponent's skin.

Just call the comment racist like we all know it is and move on.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 11:54 AM
posting Racist tweets is a good job? If you think so
Jul 15, 19 12:00 PM appended by Fred s
Stoking the flames of racism is something a racist does, great job trump. Your base loves it
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:00 PM
Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly......
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:06 PM
Great, now you repost it. Maybe the president didn’t realize 3 of the congresswoman are from the USA. Apparently trump has a very bad view of his own country. Yes Po boy, you are a true patriot reposting that pathetic tweet, it’s assumed you agree with him. Racist love it
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:11 PM
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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:14 PM
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Still racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 12:32 PM
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Trump is too stupid and ignorant to know that we are the ones who broke those countries. the United States has consistently overthrown social democracy in favor of dictatorships and authoritarian regimes for decades and decades.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 15, 19 2:08 PM
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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!





146K
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 12:39 PM
I believe retweet’s of racist bs makes you a racist bs er
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:45 PM
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HHS & FBHG
Funny stuff!!!

By Sturgis (605), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 12:40 PM
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I don't think false flag conspiracy theories are funny and neither do the victims' parents, I'd wager.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 12:43 PM
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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

....it is done. These places need your help badly, you can’t leave fast enough. I’m sure that Nancy Pelosi would be very happy to quickly work out free travel arrangements!
8:27 AM - Jul 14, 2019
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 1:16 PM
Yes, telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is still racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 1:36 PM
"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how it is done."
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 1:50 PM
Just goes to show how low IQ Trump and his loyal followers are.
By johnj (1019), Westhampton on Jul 15, 19 1:53 PM
Because they were elected fix this country, not another one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 1:53 PM
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Ah, good, we're finally getting to the heart of the matter - President Trump forcing Democrats to define what the anti-American end goal is.

And by "fix" you mean...????
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:02 PM
BS not when you are trying to bring in radical culture changing Sharia Law and if you don't like that opinion Fore and HHS then too F bad ! this is not Somalia !
By Ditch Bum (895), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:06 PM
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You'd have to look at their individual platforms, Po.

They're not MY elected officials, so I have no idea what they ran on.

I'm just pointing out that they were elected based on that platform.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:35 PM
LOL...No. You said "Because they were elected fix this country."

Coward.

It's ok Fore, we know the answer regardless. You people aren't fooling anyone....but yourselves.

By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 2:45 PM
Isn't that why people are elected? Isn't that why you voted for Trump?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:03 PM
In the case of Ilhan Omar, AOC and Rashida Tlaib I STAND WITH TRUMP ........ GTF OUT !

Omar "married" her brother in order to defraud the American immigration process. She swore an oath to uphold and defend the Constitution after she got elected. Her actions both before and after her election show her to be dishonorable, dishonest, racist and anti-american.

Indeed she can't be deported fast enough.
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jul 15, 19 1:45 PM
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Islam is an ideology that does not mesh well with western culture .and radical Islam just doesn't belong in America, period.
By Ditch Bum (895), Water Mill on Jul 15, 19 1:47 PM
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This is still an immigration thread, correct?

Ok. Well, don’t you just love a little Charlie Kirk sometimes?

“Obama & Biden deported more people than Trump has.
Obama & Biden built the detention facilities
Obama & Biden separated children from their families.
So why does President Trump get demonized when he enforces the law?
If Democrats actually cared, they would’ve protested Obama”

Is Charlie Kirk a racist too Fred?
Is ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 15, 19 1:54 PM
Telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:01 PM
Did I say that? Did he retweet trumps racist tweet? If so , he fits the bill. As to your post, you are making false claims. Obama didn’t separate families to be a deterrent, as trump did. You are a clown.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:08 PM
If you support radical Islam then you should go back home with them !

TRUMP !
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:09 PM
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Maybe so, but he still has my vote. Really don’t care. I guess I’m a racist then, by you and Fred’s definition.

But I remember when you, Fred, hihat and the rest of the libbbies here were unwilling to acknowledge those ladies absolute hatred for Jews and Israel. Defending them to death. Well, what goes around comes around. Go buy some Kleenex. That’s the only thing that’ll help your tears. Pre-order a bulk of them today on amazon. (It’s prime day) ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 15, 19 2:11 PM
Yes, condoning racism is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:40 PM
“If you’re not happy here, then you can leave,” President Trump said, prompting cheers from the audience. “As far as I’m concerned, if you hate our country, if you’re not happy here, you can leave.”
This is awesome.... it's about time someone said what is THE TRUTH!.. It's exactly the right tone to take with all the hypocritical whiners. Their mouths say America is bad. Their feet say they'd rather be here than anywhere else on the planet. You can tell ...more
By joe hampton (3428), The Hamptons on Jul 15, 19 2:20 PM
Yes, telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:39 PM
If protecting our country from these radicals is racist then I am guilty as charged !
By joe hampton (3428), The Hamptons on Jul 15, 19 3:27 PM
Disagreeing with them doesn't make you racist. Telling them to go back to their country because you disagree with them is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:29 PM
I don't think that word means what you think that word means. "Racist: A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races." Telling an illegal alien to return to their country of origin does not have any reference to their race and pertains solely to their national origin and the illegality of their actions. But hey keep calling everyone a racist and see how well that works out for ya.
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Jul 15, 19 3:38 PM
If a first generation German member of Congress spouted Nazi propaganda and was told to go back to his country would that also be racist in your view?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 15, 19 3:38 PM
Local: Telling someone to go back to their country isn't racist on its own. Telling them to go back to their country because you disagree with what they say is racist because it's an expression of superiority based on race, skin color, or national origin.

Bf: Yes, that'd still be racist. If you can't debate someone based on the merit of your ideas, that's not an excuse to be racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:49 PM
Keep making excuses for racists. You are close behind
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 3:50 PM
We knew that already, but thanks for clarifying.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 3:52 PM
Fore you just don't get it. Racism means you are prejudiced against a person because of their race. Race means "a category of humankind that shares certain distinctive physical traits". Most countries have many many different races. For example, I have a French friend who if is 100% Chinese of ancestry, but is French. I have a Mexican friend who has bright ginger red hair, blue eyes, pale skin and freckles. So telling someone to go back to their country of origin has absolutely nothing to do ...more
By localEH (426), East Hampton on Jul 15, 19 6:14 PM
Local, give it up. It was a racist bigoted tweet. None of the congresswoman are illegal aliens. Trumps tweet was race baiting at its finest. Your but but but is not commendable or well reasoned. Racism is racism, it’s not cute or funny.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 6:25 PM
Local: telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist. It's an expression of belief that you're superior and you dismiss others' views based on national origin.

The ideas of congressmembers don't have different value because of their ethnic backgrounds. That's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 8:06 PM
Local is correct. The statement was bigoted but not racist. Please check the definitions.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jul 15, 19 8:23 PM
I continue to believe telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is an expression of belief that they are inferior to you based on their national origins.

It's also stupid when the people in question are the same nationality as you are.

If you want to use xenophobic or bigoted that's your choice, but it's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 8:40 PM
Racist a person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
showing or feeling discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or believing that a particular race is superior to another.
"we are investigating complaints about racist abuse at the club"

Rethink that reply.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 8:41 PM
I went back and read the entire thread(s) above. I reread DJT's twitter post. I rechecked the definitions of racist and bigot. My post above is correct, "The statement was bigoted but not racist.".
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jul 16, 19 12:27 PM
I continue to believe telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is an expression of belief that they are inferior to you based on their national origins.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 12:30 PM
Bigoted and racist. We agree to disagree
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 12:36 PM
Unfortunately words and their meanings matter. By choosing deliberate ignorance you demonstrate that the only difference between yourselves and the Trumpets is dogma. The saddest part is that by joining in with the screeching hysteria of the fringe left you and the many others that engage in this nonsense just drive moderate democrats further to the right. Remember that democrats are not a majority. They require the independent vote to win. While the stupidity coming out of the mouths of democrats ...more
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jul 16, 19 6:16 PM
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Deliberate ignorance is ignoring the president tweeting bigoted racist comments. As one of the most powerful men in the world, you cannot ignore it. Just say nothing? Blissful ignorance. As to the democrats not being the majority, neither is the Republican Party.theres a 3-4% of voters that have to be swayed one way or the other. If you think any decent person is going to vote for this racist, I think your wrong.if you recall hrc won the majority of votes. Buyers remorse has set in.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 9:57 PM
Bird: I explained how Trump's words fit the definition of a belief in superiority based on national origin, and several Republican congressmembers agree with me.

Democrats don't need moderates in New York or Californoa, they need women and minorities who didn't vote in 2016 from states where Trump won by a nose.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:27 AM
Acting like the adult in the room is not ignorance. Acting like the adult in the room means you don't deal with a child throwing a tantrum by screeching "racist" back at them. The whole thing was a red herring to start with. DJT is winding up his supporters and Pelosi, et al, are winding up theirs. Thoughtful, intelligent people are just sitting back holding their noses, fully understanding they both stink.
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jul 17, 19 3:00 PM
One update to my comment: Now the U.S. House of Representatives agrees with me and a resolution calling the tweets racist will be part of the official congressional record for the rest of existence.
Jul 17, 19 3:03 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
I agree with you that it was a distraction, Bird. I just think it was a racist one.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 3:03 PM
"Now the U.S. House of Representatives agrees with me" - Yes, and the Senate doesn't. Surprise, surprise...
By bird (824), Sag Harbor on Jul 17, 19 3:18 PM
Was there a vote on that resolution in the Senate that I missed?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 3:29 PM
Yeah, Mitch McConnell is gonna buck trump. Chicken s _ _ _
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 3:43 PM
I do wish he would bring it up for a vote...let's get everyone on the record and let the voters decide who they agree with in November 2020.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 3:50 PM
The silence from the senators on the right is telling. Make racism legitimate again.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 3:54 PM
There were plenty of Republican Senators who criticized the tweets but only two called them racist. I believe one was Tim Scott, the only Republican Senator who is black.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 4:03 PM
Racist and proud of it, what a way to go through life.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:21 PM
But mets its you that supports the 4 racist women communist morons of the apocalypse and proud of it ?

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez
Ilhan Omar
Rashida Tlaib
Ayanna Pressley

Racist Omar hates America, but she sure as hell knows how to fraudulently abuse our generous immigration an welfare laws.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 15, 19 2:25 PM
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I think you hate America, UD.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 2:44 PM
I think you hate woman fore, no one talks about the fact that in sharia courts, women have no rights.is this what you see for the future of america ? If not then go on the record now !
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jul 15, 19 2:52 PM
You're allowed to think whatever you want but I support an equal rights amendment for women, so...
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:00 PM
so then you make no sense ? you cannot support sharia law and womens rights ? how ridiculous you make yourself sound
By Erin 27 E (1261), hampton bays on Jul 15, 19 3:03 PM
You'll have to show me where I said I support "sharia law" because I don't recall ever saying I did.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:10 PM
You will have to show me where you, Mets, Mr Z or HHS ever denounced it "sharia law" because I don't recall ever reading that you did.

They wont be happy until you and your daughters are wearing your hi jab like a good little FGM woman Erin
By 27dan (2812), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 15, 19 3:21 PM
I don't even know what "sharia law" means but if you give me examples I'll be glad to address them; to address the ones you brought up, I'm not interested in making anyone wear religious garb or allowing dangerous surgical procedures with zero medical benefit to be carried out on young women.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 15, 19 3:26 PM
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I don't even know what "sharia law" means says it all
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:22 AM
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Explain it to me, Tcm. Just give specific examples instead of hiding behind loaded terms and I'll tell you exactly what I think.

Or keep hiding behind loaded terms and fomenting division, it makes no difference to me.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:27 AM
Go back to the country you came from ud and fix that s...h...! See how how easy it is to be a racist like the orange chimpanzee!
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 8:44 PM
President Trump, Omar lied to immigration saying that she was married to her brother (not legitimate marriage. She falsified her status to get here - that makes her fully eligible for deportation proceedings.
By 27dan (2812), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 15, 19 2:33 PM
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Hot news flash, trump is a liar. You can’t believe a word he says, but the true believers think he’s god.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 4:23 PM
The bottom line, the president tweets racist bigoted comments, the faithful fall in line behind him. What we have have is a group of unapologetic racists who follow their leader, bravo. Well done
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 15, 19 5:22 PM
President Trump is leading the world back from PC destruction and calling out the True racists by just stating the obvious. Great respect for POTUS
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:23 AM
Telling people to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:28 AM
...and telling them to come back when they fixed the problems in the country they left.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 12:00 PM
Also, assuming that people are from another country because of their skin color is prejudiced.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 12:08 PM
....actually, no.

prej·u·diced
/ˈprejədəst/
having or showing a dislike or distrust that is derived from prejudice; bigoted.

If you read the entire tweet(s), you'll find the dislike stems from the "squad's" dislike of America and their anti-America sentiment - aka, love it or leave it. You're probably too young to remember that. Maybe get back to me when you read the full tweet.








By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 9:58 PM
It's an example of prejudice because president Trump assumed they were from another country based on how they look.

We know this because he doesn't levy the same criticism at their white counterparts who share their beliefs.

Also, using a definition of a word that contains the word itself is an error in style:


prej·u·dice (noun): preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:21 AM
Are there white counterparts who share their anti-American beliefs?

Show me a white counterpart who reduced what occurred on 9/11 to "some people who did something."
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 8:58 AM
White counterparts? You just lost your argument.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 9:01 AM
As the originator, you just lost your argument, Fore.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 9:40 AM
While dismissive and flippant, it's a fact that on that day some [bad] people did something [terrible].

I was referring more to their larger positions, like that government overreach occurred in the name of national security following the violent, criminal acts of a few bad apples.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:41 AM
“ A sickness known as hate. Not a virus, not a microbe, not a germ—but a sickness nonetheless, highly contagious, deadly in its effects. Don't look for it in the Twilight Zone—look for it in a mirror. Look for it before the light goes out altogether. ”
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 16, 19 1:26 AM
The hate is coming from AOC plus 3 and yes if you don't like this country than get the f OUT ! Has nothing to do with race !

Ilhan Omar to Trump: ‘You Are Stoking White Nationalism’
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Beats the hell out of Islamalism, and Sharia law.

I'll fight and die protecting the Constitution, from Islam and Sharia law!
By Ditch Bum (895), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 2:12 AM
But it does have to do with national origin, which makes it racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:29 AM
trumps a racist, you repeating it and admiring him for it, you are nothing but an unapologetic racist. Unfortunately we all knew that.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 5:25 AM
Q: What do racists, clowns and fools have in common?

A: They are all things that Fred calls you when he’s triggered and upset....and wrong.
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 16, 19 8:34 AM
A: They all support Donald J. Trump for President
By johnj (1019), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 8:40 AM
Not everyone who supports Donald Trump is a racist, but if you're a racist you probably support Donald Trump.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 9:23 AM
You poor child. You must hate your parents for bringing you to such an evil, unfair, racist country.

Through that one act of thoughtlessness, they've doomed you to having to spend a lifetime working to tear the USA down from the inside.
By MoronEliminator (215), Montauk on Jul 16, 19 9:30 AM
Hey moron, that the place I came from is worse doesn't mean the place I am can't be better.

It's like you folks think the only people who can be critical of America are the descendants of the people who came on the Mayflower.

Contrary to your belief, one of the BEST things about America is that anyone can criticize her without fear of government reprisal.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 9:42 AM
Not wrong about you, I’m not triggered either. If the president is tweeting racist tweets, instead of condemning him, you clowns say it’s ok. Your still a fool.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 8:37 AM
You sure get knocked over by a feather often.
Jul 16, 19 8:47 AM appended by themarlinspike
For your nitwit leftist foreign comrade who thinks a death camp and concentration camp are 2 different things. READ THIS CURRENT PRESS ARTICLE !!! : Jul 15, 2019 5:11 PMPublication: The Southampton Press Supreme Court Appellate Division Orders Two Nazi-Looted Artworks To Be Returned To Heirs Of Holocaust Victim
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 16, 19 8:47 AM
Hey Marlin, a death camp is always a concentration camp but a concentration camp is not always a death camp.

Glad I could clear that up for you! Feel free to reply tomorrow when you get another two comments and we can discuss some more.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 12:36 PM
...and a detention center is not a concentration camp.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 9:37 PM
A concentration camp is always a detention center but a detention center is only a concentration camp based on the conditions found inside.

Do you want to talk about the conditions found inside?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:17 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 17, 19 7:39 AM
This comment has been removed because it is a duplicate, off-topic or contains inappropriate content.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 7:50 AM
FAKE POSTER
Jul 17, 19 7:58 AM appended by themarlinspike
If 27east had an ounce of integrity, Fore1gnBornHBgrown would be banned from this site for obvious anti-Semitic concentration death camp denials. Really.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 17, 19 7:58 AM
Thanks, Marlin! Chat again tomorrow ;-)
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 8:15 AM
And the wheels on the bus go round and round... but by nature, they are still detention centers regardless of the label you wish to place on them.

Do you want to talk about the conditions on the 1200 mile trek from Central America? The rape? The sexual assault?

Let's not forget, we've been telling you people for months there is a crisis at the border. I believe the response was, the president was manufacturing it. Welcome to the party.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 8:48 AM
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Duh, they're all detention camps and the ones with inhumane conditions are concentration camps. If people start dying en masse due to our negligent or reckless disregard of those conditions, then they're called extermination/death camps. That's how words and their definitions work.

I'm happy to talk about the 1200 mile trek from Central America, and even further back to the conditions that push people away from their countries of origin, but I also don't think we're responsible for fixing ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:27 AM
No. They are still detention centers.

The conditions have gotten worse, not (only) because of the president's decisions to enforce the law, but because of the changing demographic and organized efforts by design to flood the system to the state of failure.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 9:37 AM
Yes, they are all still detention centers, and the ones with inhumane conditions are also concentration camps.

I agree there are efforts by design to flood the system to the state of failure. That's what "Trump manufactured the crisis" means.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:48 AM
con·cen·tra·tion camp
/ˌkänsənˈtrāSHən ˈˌkamp/
noun

a place where large numbers of people, especially political prisoners or members of persecuted minorities, are deliberately imprisoned in a relatively small area with inadequate facilities, sometimes to provide forced labor or to await mass execution. The term is most strongly associated with the several hundred camps established by the Nazis in Germany and occupied Europe ...more
Jul 17, 19 10:47 AM appended by Po Boy
No, flooding the system by design to the state of failure is not what "Trump manufactured the crisis" means. It's origins were meant to indicate a crisis didn't exist. It's why Democrats were so insistent on it during the wall debate. Flooding the system by design is something pro-migrant groups have engaged in. And you know it. that's not
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 10:47 AM
Large numbers of people, check. Deliberate imprisonment, check. Small area, check. Inadequate facilities, check.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 10:59 AM
persecuted minorities, especially political prisoners....womp...womp...

Typical sizzle, but no steak.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 11:03 AM
If "especially" meant "exclusively" they wouldn't be different words.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 11:27 AM
This would be a good time to walk down memory lane...

There is no crisis today that hasn't existed for decades.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (6921), HAMPTON BAYS on Jan 9, 19 1:35 PM
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 2:24 PM
Yes, what we learned about the conditions in those camps since January has certainly changed my mind.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 2:29 PM
You think it was any different in 2014 when DHS Secretary Johnson made the determination to detain family units?

Nope. There was no difference. But I glad you've become educated none the less and even more of travesty that Democrats have voted to approve $0 for additional ICE detention beds and the Democrat controlled House has no legislation planned to alleviate the problem.

*"Without a doubt the images, and the reality, from 2014, just like 2018, are not pretty," Johnson said. ...more
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 12:45 PM
Sure it was. Less people were detained for less time.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 12:48 PM
Racism isn’t a feather It’s a brick.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 9:59 AM
More brain dead, racist cant that exemplifies the ignorance and stupidity of true believers. Not ONE assertion that these low-lows have made on this thread is FACT.

Rather, it's a compendium of tedious, moronic, baseless aspersions that only serve to advertise that true believers share the deplorable character of their contemptible Liar-in-Chief.

Does nothing embarrass them? God knows they embarrass NORMAL Americans just by being our countrymen.
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 11:00 AM
Since Trump was elected POTUS:

1) Achieved the lowest ever black unemployment

2) Have black business startups skyrocket over 400%

3) See wages go up for black workers

4) Sign prison reform (The First Step Act)

5) Pardon wrongfully convicted people of color

6) Increased funding for HBCU programs (Historically Black Colleges & Universities)

7) Technical education and vocational studies heavily used by minorities received $1.2 billion ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 16, 19 1:05 PM
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#6 cracked me up. Maybe you're not aware that he continues to insist the Central Park 5 were guilty despite being absolved by DNA evidence.
Jul 16, 19 1:15 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Oops, I mean #5.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:15 PM
R these 7 untrue?Changing the subject does not change the facts.You can't handle the truth.
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 1:27 PM
From vox....As I’ve written before, Trump’s claims about the black unemployment rate are somewhat misleading. While it’s undeniable that the rate has hit a new low, it is also true that black unemployment began declining during the Obama administration and has been falling steadily for the past several years.

Trump hasn’t reversed those gains, but that doesn’t mean he can claim full credit for them either.

More importantly, black unemployment is still ...more
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:43 PM
For one thing, I don't see how these bullet points make his tweet not racist. Can you bridge the gap for us, Taz?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 1:44 PM
@ DiseaseDiocese & Taz

1) False - - - Fact Checker: "Trump’s outdated spin on the black unemployment rate" by By Salvador Rizzo (The Washington Post, March 26, 2019)

2) False - - - " Black business ownership didn’t increase 400 percent this year" by Kyra Haas (Politifact: The Punditfact Truth-O-Meter, August 27, 2018)
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Ignorance and stupidity coupled with the overarching LAZINESS that defines true believers. It's surprising that you ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 1:55 PM
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Tweet was directed at antiAmerican rhetoric-he did not ask all black/brown members of congress to leave thus, not racist.
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 1:58 PM
Things r on the rite track regardless if u believe Obama started it or not. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. TRUMP 2020, KAG!!!
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 2:02 PM
Things r on the rite track regardless if u believe Obama started it or not. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. TRUMP 2020, KAG!!!
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 16, 19 2:02 PM
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Bingo! He didn't like what they said, so his reaction was to tell them to go back to their country.

He doesn't do the same when he disagrees with white members of congress, ergo it's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 16, 19 2:06 PM
The central park 5 were thugs
By 27dan (2812), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 16, 19 9:01 PM
Even if that was true, they were wrongfully convicted and exonerated of the crime.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:15 AM
8) tweets racist and bigoted statements
9) his followers think it’s cute and funny and ok
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 1:12 PM
Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. At least the part that's filled with racists, bigots, misogynists and generally not smart people.
By johnj (1019), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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Hatred is so rabid in the Democrat Party, they are now infesting it upon each other. Sure is grand to see the tables turn on those subversive fools...aint it? The hypocrisy of the left knows no bounds.
By 27dan (2812), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 16, 19 8:58 PM
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Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
Jul 16, 19 9:07 PM appended by Po Boy
1 member liked this comment Fore1gnBornHBgrown
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 9:07 PM
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Losers take soundbites and relate statements out of context.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 17, 19 3:33 AM
I couldn't agree more. The taste of your own medicine is bitter, isn't it?
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 9:38 AM
Sarcasm is lost on you
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 9:47 PM
Sarcasm is lost on you!

You mean, you don't like it when only a portion of what someone said is taken into consideration??? Tisk tisk....

Rock on President Trump!!
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 10:02 PM
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Keep defending the racist, it’s a good look for you.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 16, 19 10:12 PM
Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 16, 19 10:37 PM
My entire black family loves President Trump and is voting for him in 2020 ! Democrats have become unhinged, they have lost their minds! The Democrats have become totally unhinged due to President Trump. He is showing them to the American public to be exactly what they are.
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:11 AM
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Electing a pathological liar to high office embodies unhinged.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 17, 19 3:59 AM
Po, don't you hate the part that's filled with racists, bigots, misogynists and generally not smart people?

I know I do!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:31 AM
That would be a straw man argument for I don't subscribe to the existence of "parts filled with racists, bigots, misogynists and generally not smart people"...whatever elitist clap trap that means. So the answer is, no, I don't hate America unlike you and your liberal friends.

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 8:54 AM
Oh, so you don't love or hate the racism, you just deny it exists. Nice.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:10 AM
@ Po Boy

You lie again (This time by omission.), editing Fore1gnBornHBgrown's comment in a prejudicial misconstruction of what he actually said- - - and spin it into an asinine (and - - - as usual - - - entirely bogus and unsupportable) defamation of all liberals.

God you are predictable!
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 17, 19 9:22 AM
The funny thing is he would probably "subscribe to the existence of parts filled with racists, bigots, misogynists and generally not smart people" if he thought we were talking about Democrats.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:29 AM
Lie by omission is what you people do every day to the President.

What, you don't like it??
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 9:32 AM
Please be specific when accusing others of lying by omission. Thanks for admitting that's what you did here, though!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:42 AM
Case in point, the current debate. Pick any number of other accusations against the president. Changes everything, doesn't it??

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 10:57 AM
Well that's not very specific. What's being omitted from "the current debate"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 11:02 AM
a) no mention of race

b) "Then come back and show us how...."

This isn't the first time the rabid Left has been scolded on context...

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 11:05 AM
Case in point, the current debate. Changes everything, doesn't it??

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 11:05 AM
A) It certainly had to do with national origin, which makes the comment racial

B) How does that make the preceding comment not racist?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 11:18 AM
a) Certainly? Nope. Only one of the four had origins other than the US. The intent and emphasis was on their anti-American zealotry.

b) see a.

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 11:47 AM
Lol, Kellyanne told us that the president was talking about where they were "originally" from. Please keep up with your talking points, thanks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 11:50 AM
LOL, that simply demonstrates your own prejudices that we keep up with the "talking points" are incorrect.

It doesn't however mean that it is racist. It does mean, go back and fix the country you are "from" (with the policies you espouse) and then come back when you do.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 12:21 PM
So it DID have to do with national origin and ethnic background, contrary to your assertions above, right? Otherwise, what country is he telling them to go "back" to?

Anyway, I'm ignoring my own advice; I understand that you don't think the president's tweets were racist but the House of Representatives disagrees with you.
Jul 17, 19 12:25 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
When have I suggested that you normally keep up with the talking points? On the contrary, I'm asserting that you're bad at it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 12:25 PM
Nope. It DIDN'T have to do with national origin. It had to do with anti-American sentiment and policies of the four horsewomen of the Democrat Apocalypse. IF you're looking for explanation of how that applies to someone born in the US "who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world," we all "originally" came from somewhere is the takeaway.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 12:37 PM
If it didn't have to do with national origin then why is the response "go back to your country"?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 12:46 PM
And this is a lesson in, "Case and point"...

Why were they welcomed back with the part you keep eliminating..."Then come back and show us how....it's done?"

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 2:21 PM
"Come back after" doesn't negate that telling someone "go back to your country" because you disagree with their ideas is racist.

The U.S. House of Representatives agrees with me and a resolution calling the tweets racist will be part of the official congressional record for the rest of existence.

God bless America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 2:33 PM
Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 12:37 PM
By your own words, you're lying by omission. Tsk tsk.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 12:46 PM
No. I'm making a point by omission. Hee hee.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:05 PM
You also deny that racism exists in America, such as that shown at the Trump rally yesterday. Hee hee.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:07 PM
I never said racism doesn't exist in America. That is the Fore1gnBornHBgrown twist on the belief America is inherently good.
That is a LIE...and you know it.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:14 PM
You denied the existence of places full of racism. Last night's rally was one example. The events in Charlottesville were another. They chanted "Jews will not replace us", or is that not racist to you?

Also, let me head off what I anticipate your argument will be: yes, Jewish is both a religious and ethnic identity.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:21 PM
Show me a PLACE full of racism, and I'll reconsider the belief that nothing is universal. Those are events, and would agree they were abundantly racist by those in attendance - the KKK, Antifa, and Black Lives Matter.

Keeping with "PLACE" though, aren't you the one who posted: "That's a lot of people you're painting with one broad stroke. Nuance is not a dirty word."
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:46 PM
The blame game shift is occurring, right on schedule Po Boy.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 1:49 PM
Huh?? Go take a nap Fred. You're cranky.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:52 PM
I’m wide awake, you are still deflecting. Sad
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 2:01 PM
I'm not saying everybody in Chancellorsville was racist. I'm saying the ones who chanted "Jews will not replace us" are racist.

I'm not saying everybody at the Trump rally was racist. I'm saying the ones who chanted "send her back" are racist.
Jul 18, 19 3:06 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Oops, that should read "Charlotesville"
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 3:06 PM
The best that I can tell, in 2020 the Democrats are running on:

We loathe Donald Trump. We hate America. We hate you. We really hate the )ews.
Muslims are good. Christians are bad. White people are the cause of every ill on the planet, and if you disagree, you are a racist Nazi.

We're OK with murdering newborns. We swear we'll get Obamacare right the next time.

Unvetted Illegals must flood in through open US borders in unlimited numbers with impunity as they rape ...more
By They call me (2792), southampton on Jul 17, 19 12:59 AM
Carbon is poison for a planet. Methane is CH4.

Do you listen to yourself? Or check your grammar? Obviously not.
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 17, 19 4:01 AM
They call me, at least your rants are consistent, consistently nutty.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 5:22 AM
Will someone else remind TCM what "straw man" means? I'm tired of doing it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:32 AM
TCM, a straw man argument is an conversation Democrats wish to avoid.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 8:49 AM
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@ Po Boy

As do all honest people who avoid fallacious arguments in preference for truthfulness and rationality.
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 17, 19 8:53 AM
Is this meant to be funny? Like you are being sarcastic right? Because not one democrat that I know has the extremely narrow view that you seem to be painting.

We do loath Trump though - I will give you that. He is a terrible person, always has been, and he is a joke of a president.
We love our country. We love all religions (you are thinking of Republicans with your anti-Jewish comment...we aren’t Nazi's you are)
As I said, we love all religions so, yes Muslim is good, ...more
By Polandspring (96), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 8:54 AM
A lot of hatred, but he brings the klown kar out everyday to defend the racist, bigoted agent orange.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 6:05 AM
And the daily display of alt left butt hurt continues.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 17, 19 6:44 AM
Drumpf validates your racist, bigoted views, as you have proven over and over again. In sixteen months your validation is gone and you will have to retreat to the rock you came out from under.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 9:58 AM
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Bf, this is your daily unapologetic racist tour. Let’s hear another snippet about how trumps racist tweets aren’t racist. Can’t get enough of your double talk.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 6:52 AM
Any time someone says Trump's tweets weren't racist, just remind them that the House of Representatives disagrees with them and move on.

We've already spent too much time on Trump's racist distraction.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 9:47 AM
Any time someone says Trump's tweets were racist, just remind them that the message was focused on the anti-American zealotry of the Four Horsewoman of the Democratic Apocalypse "who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world..." and he challenged them to come back when they fixed those countries with the socialist polices they espouse.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 12:40 PM
A focus on perceived "anti-American zealotry" doesn't negate that "go back to your country" is a racist response.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 12:49 PM
Of course the focus on anti-Amercian zealotry negates it. Just as "Then come back and show us how.... it's done" is the welcome mat back.

By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 2:18 PM
Nah, if you perceive "anti-Ameircan zealotry" you attack those ideas, not the person. Telling someone "go back to your country" because you disagree with their ideas is racist and telling them to come back after doesn't negate the racism either.

The U.S. House of Representatives agrees with me and a resolution calling the tweets racist will be part of the official congressional record for the rest of existence.

God bless America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 2:27 PM
if the idiotic congress critters were white and President Trump made the same comment would we be having this conversation? Honest answers please.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 17, 19 4:52 PM
Let me look in my crystal ball and I'll let you know what it says...or better yet, we can ask why their white counterparts aren't equally criticized to begin with.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:11 PM
Why does the Southampton Press allow people to make all these comments anonymously on line versus sending letters to the editor with confirmed signatures?

By AL (82), southampton on Jul 17, 19 9:21 AM
Because comments indicate engagement and an engaged audience sells more ad-space, I'd imagine.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 10:04 AM
Oh i see... your upset peoples opinions are getting out and not controlled and censored like on you tube.
By joe hampton (3428), The Hamptons on Jul 17, 19 4:39 PM
Can I get a monthly tab from the tangerine toddler of the debt incurred by the orange chimpanzee they call me and undocumented democrat. Weren't you once tea baggers, what happened to your rants and numbers about debt?
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 10:02 AM
Now unlike Fred, I always try to refrain from calling people crazy or stupid or racist just because I disagree...but in this case, Polandspring deserves the award for most sporadically insane post of the year so far on 27east.
It immediately reminded me of a quote from the Adam Sandler movie , Billy Madison: “Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 17, 19 1:13 PM
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So you didn't like Poland's straw men about Republicans?

Then she got her point across.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 1:18 PM
Touched a nerve did I?
Please take out just ONE part of my comment and tell me how it sound ...what did you say "Sporadically insane" Seriously. Did I hurt your feelings? Or did I tell you exactly what you don't like to hear? I am sorry but the "Liberals" and the "democrats" actually LIKE people and want what is best for the nation and the world. Unlike some parties...truth hurts. And everything I said is factual...not opinion.
By Polandspring (96), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:43 PM
Diseased, thanks for using my name. You post nutty stuff all the time, if shoe fits
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:17 PM
Once upon a time, forty hour work weeks, paid vacations, paid medical, overtime, etc were considered radical ideas.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:17 PM
What do you meant I can't send my kid to work in a mine and collect their paycheck for myself? I thought this was America!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 1:20 PM
Priorities:It wud be nice if dems focused on infrastructure,border issues,concerns of US citizens before trashing trump.Do your jobs!!!!
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 17, 19 1:22 PM
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Priorities like publishing divisive and racist tweets?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 1:27 PM
Maybe trump should be a leader and not post pathetic racist posts attacking fellow Americans
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:38 PM
Or tell American citizens to go back to the country they came from.

You just can't fix stupid. But, you can vote it out of office...
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 17, 19 7:33 PM
Liberals should really look in the mirror before calling conservatives racists:



Another View: The racism Liberals don’t recognize — their own
By Contributor
By Bernard Goldberg

Commentators, almost always from the right, have documented liberal media bias for many years now. And the response by the perpetrators of this bias has been both constant and predictable: Circle the wagons and blame the accusers. Accuse us of bias for seeing their bias.

The ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 17, 19 1:27 PM
Nobody is calling all conservatives racists.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 1:35 PM
You or someone already posted this. Good example.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 1:39 PM
Absolute pandemonium on the House floor yesterday.

...pegged my shadenfreude meter
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jul 17, 19 1:35 PM
TCM, a straw man argument is an conversation Democrats wish to avoid.



By Po Boy (4426), Water Mill on Jul 17, 19 8:49 AM


LOL
By joe hampton (3428), The Hamptons on Jul 17, 19 4:23 PM
The Democrat Party seems to be seeking out victimhood for their followers and calling almost any comment critical of their alt left platform "racist" is the whine de jour. Carry on little snowflakes, carry on.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 17, 19 4:58 PM
Trump's tweets weren't even critiques of their platform. They were just a racist comeback.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 6:13 PM
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Snowflakes? Didn’t trump just post racist tweets against 4 women? Yeah snowflakes. The pathetic one can’t be threatened by women. One more thing genius, racism isn’t left or right. It’s wrong. The racist apology tour continues
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 17, 19 5:30 PM
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oh pleaseee stop with you racist horse shat what trump did was not racist. lol truly pathetic
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 17, 19 8:18 PM
The U.S. House of Representatives disagrees with you and a resolution calling Trump's tweets racist will be part of the official congressional record forever.

God bless America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 17, 19 8:32 PM
leave it to an alt left sycophant to see racism everywhere, carry on.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 18, 19 6:28 AM
If by "everywhere" you mean the President's tweets that the House issued a resolution calling racist, yes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 6:43 AM
Leave it to a "right winger" to cling to myths instead of reality. Let's see how they diminutize a man who graduated college in three years.


The Economist Who Would Fix the American Dream

No one has done more to dispel the myth of social mobility than Raj Chetty. But he has a plan to make equality of opportunity a reality.

Gareth Cook
August 2019 Issue
Business
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 18, 19 6:56 AM
Foreign: The Democrats in the House , along with a few Never Trumpers used the President's tweet to play politics, nothing more.
Z: There is equal opportunity in this great nation but no guarantee of equal outcome. Not sure why this concept is so hard to grasp for you.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 18, 19 7:10 AM
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No matter how you put it, an official act of congress calling Trump's tweets racist will be part of the congressional record forever.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 8:15 AM
Your brain is clouded with racism, that’s not hard to grasp. Racist apology tour continues
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 8:20 AM

Ben Shapiro

@benshapiro
Vile. Omar is awful. She is a radical anti-Semite with terrible views. She is also an American citizen and chanting for her deportation based on her exercise of the First Amendment is disgusting.


I actually have to agree with him. We’re better than this. I’m just happy Trump didn’t comment after those chants. I was cringing while watching it last night. Lock Her Up is one thing but Send Her Back is exactly what Shapiro ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 18, 19 7:11 AM
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Diseased, not sure if your trolling or not, but I’ll take your word on it. The crowds chants didn’t occur in a vacuum. They were started by trump. This nasty bit of history is not going to end well. When the president is stoking the fires of racism and hatred, then denying it, trouble will follow.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 8:25 AM
I welcome anyone who wants to criticize the ugliness of that chant with open arms.

I think that ugliness is far more anti-American than anything the Congresswomen have done or said.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 8:38 AM
Lock her up...send her back...

It's symbolism...

Anyone who half a clue knows it isn't technically possible.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 12:51 PM
Lol, so why are they chanting it? What is it symbolic of?
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 12:57 PM
Anti-Semitic sentiment which is typical of anti-American zealotry.

Love it or leave it. Send her back. Are you suggesting she COULD be sent back?
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:11 PM
Actually yes, if the government determined Omar obtained citizenship fraudulently her naturalization would become invalid and she could certainly be deported. Seems like an irrelevant side-note, though.

Anyway, in my ideal America we attack people's ideas, not tell them to go back to where they came from. That's racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:17 PM
Excellent point. I look forward to learning more about her potentially fraudulent marriage to her brother. But yes, it is irrelevant to the tweet.

Anyway, in my ideal America we don't attempt to silence debate through baseless allegations of calling someone a racist.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:26 PM
Allegations so baseless that, for the rest of eternity, an official resolution calling the tweets racist will be part of our country's history.

God bless America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:32 PM
That was a generally party line vote, was it not?

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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Fore1gnBornHBgrown
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:53 PM
All Democrats and four Republicans in the House voted for the resolution calling Trump's tweets racist, which will be part of the country's history forever.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 2:54 PM
Wait, that is the same House Democrats that watered down a resolution to condemn the bigoted words of Ilhan Omar, the same House Democrats who violated long standing House rules in making the accusation against the president, the same House Democrats who then changed the rules in order to hold a vote, the same House Democrats who voted to reinstate Pelosi’s speaking privileges and keep her words in the record after they were determined to be out of order, and the same House democrats who voted ...more
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 19, 19 12:02 PM
Yes that house. The one where Republicans sit right across the isle. The Republicans who didn’t condemn trumps racist tweets. The same republicans who are all aboard treating asylum seekers like animals.those Republicans, kinda like the ones on here who didn’t condemn his vile racist tweets, you Po boy being one of them
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 12:19 PM
If the tweet was as you all say it was Fred, we'd all be condemning them. But they weren't.

Could you be specific in your allegation "republicans who are all aboard treating asylum seekers like animals." Because as I see it, it was republicans who were saying all along there is a crisis at the border, and it was Democrats who said all along, it wasn't. Hence, the conditions.

By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 19, 19 1:15 PM
We disagree. The tweet was racist, you can talk around in circles all day about it, it’s not gonna change. Racism is racism. As to the crisis, it was trumps policy to separate families as a deterrent, thank you Stephen miller. The good thing about the whole racist bs , you now embraced it, got you out of the shadows
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 1:24 PM
Forget about the tweet being racist.

How about just plain dumb and stupid?

"Back back to where you came from . . . "

In one case that is the Bronx! Guess he showed her!

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!
By Nero (297), Sag Harbor on Jul 19, 19 1:38 PM
Racism is dumb and stupid. Hurtful and uncalled for.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 2:02 PM
6,000,000 New Jobs Since Election Day

Record Minority Unemployment
By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 18, 19 7:14 AM
True believers see The Donald tell four women of color to "go back where they came from" and DON'T see it as racist.

Reminds one of the scene in the film, "The Mummy" where a mob possessed by the mummy chant "Im-ho-tep" mindlessly. Except that in this case the possessed chant "Don-ald-Trump".
Jul 18, 19 8:38 AM appended by highhatsize
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wV9eaZUKIk
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 18, 19 8:38 AM
Those 4 gals are bat crap crazy, just like the rest of the left in this Country.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 18, 19 8:54 AM
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That's a lot of people you're painting with one broad stroke. Nuance is not a dirty word.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 9:19 AM
He’s finger painting
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 9:28 AM
Yes. A 60 foot tall middle finger facing towards the left.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 18, 19 10:07 AM
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That's fine, I just hope you see how it's hypocritical to complain about conservatives being painted in those same broad strokes.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 10:22 AM
The bitter clingers refuse to acknowledge the entire tweet or its context...

The tweet didn't mention anyone in congress by name, it didn't mention race, it welcomed them back after they fixed the countries of origin.

Meanwhile four bat crap crazy radicals have become the face of the Democrat Party. BRILLIANT Mr. President. Bravo. Well played!!



By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 12:58 PM
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So you don't even want to admit who it was about now?

Ok then, but you're not fooling anyone.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:00 PM
Show us where the tweets specifically say who it was about. You can't.

Seems certain people took offense and stepped forward under their own free will, didn't they?
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:07 PM
You're the only one pretending you don't know who the tweets were about.

Nobody is buying it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:22 PM
I'm not pretending anything.

Point me to where they are specifically mentioned by name. I don't see it.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:23 PM
The racist apology tour has a new spokesperson. Thank you Po Boy for picking up the fight.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 1:29 PM
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Everybody knows who "congresswomen" referred to. Kellyanne admitted as much. Pretending otherwise is your prerogative.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:33 PM
Oh, we're now considering follow up as context too. Great. More to come.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:51 PM
Sure, ignoring the context before and after the tweets, "congresswomen" could have referred to anybody, but that would be ignorant.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 2:27 PM
Back on your boat ripping off tourists marlin
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 1:39 PM
This "Ship of Fools" still bobbing about in the "Sea of Destiny?"

Priceless!

:)
By PBR (4952), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 9:27 AM
Hihat...let’s not get carried away here. Trump's full quote was “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....” . Stop Lemonizing and Tappering.
I do not have a problem with this tweet from Trump at all. He’s proving a good point. He’s frustrated to have anti-American and pro sharia/anti Semitic representatives in the House. He was telling them to take a look at how ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 18, 19 9:30 AM
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Obviously we disagree on Trump's tweet but I won't harp on that. For me, it's more important that we see eye-to-eye on the ugliness displayed by the folks engaged in the "send her back" chant and agree that it's un-American.

"We are more alike, my friends, than we are unalike." - Maya Angelou
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 10:10 AM
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They don't want to acknowledge the whole tweet DD. It's the typical lie by omission.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 12:47 PM
Nah, I acknowledge that there are parts of the tweet I wouldn't call racist.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 12:55 PM
Nah, it doesn't work that way. “Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....it is done.”

Full context...it's not racist. Lie lie lie lie lie lie by omission.

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America.
By johnj (1001), Westhampton on Jul 16, 19 2:05 PM
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Fore1gnBornHBgrown

Get it?
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:04 PM
It's a personal attack based on their ethnic backgrounds that completely ignores the substance of their arguments, ergo it's racist.

The U.S. House of Representatives agrees with me and a resolution calling Trump's tweets racist will be part of the congressional record forever.

God bless America.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:14 PM
To the contrary and quite opposite, the essence of the statement hinges on the lack of substance in their arguments, ergo, it targets their radical policy beliefs..."go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places..."

The Democrat controlled U.S. House of Representatives has done NOTHING of substance since being elected. That vote along mostly party lines is just more of the same. Are we to be shocked you're in agreement?

Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. ...more
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:22 PM
Nah, they've provided plenty of substance and they've passed plenty of bills, a vast majority of which the Senate has chosen to shelve and let die.

I think the House is working as it's supposed to by representing the beliefs of the population.

Among those beliefs is the decision to call Trump's tweets racist, a decision that all Democrats in the House along with four Republicans agreed with.

Did I mention that for the rest of our lives that decision will be part of the ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 1:30 PM

I'm flattered that you've quoted me so many times Poor Boy. I have to wonder why you didn't include the rest of my comment though? The part where I said that the part of America that I hate is the part that is filled with racists, bigots, misogynists and ignorance. The America that I love is the one that is tolerant and compassionate and sympathetic towards ALL people, regardless of race, gender or religion.

By johnj (1019), Westhampton on Jul 18, 19 1:37 PM
No need to wonder jj. We're wondering why the rest of the president's tweets aren't provided? You know, the part where he welcomes back those whose policies he questions.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:49 PM
"I think the House is working as it's supposed to by representing the beliefs of the population."

Oh good, they voted 332-95 to table a resolution to impeach the president. Well, there you go.

By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 18, 19 1:51 PM
@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. ... "
--------------------------------

It is unnecessary to repost your edited, transparently misleading lie so often, Po Boy.

We already know that lying is the center of your existence.

But out of courtesy to those of us bored by your lethargy, could you at least exert yourself to post NEW lies.

By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 18, 19 1:55 PM
Exactly, Po. Most people don't want to impeach the president. The House is working as intended!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 2:23 PM
Diseased, his tweet was racist and bigoted, if you have no problem with it, you are part of the problem. There’s no such thing as “racism lite” , that’s what you are trying to achieve
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 9:36 AM
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"America.Love it or leave it." Vietnam era chant,nothing new here-was NEVER racist.Has the "squad" enlisted any whites or males to join them?ICongress has many liberal members who would if asked. But then, it is the squad who r the racists.
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 18, 19 9:47 AM
Funny you should ask, Taz:

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is welcoming a new member to "The Squad": 82-year-old Rep. Bill Pascrell.

The New Jersey Democrat asked Tuesday to be part of the outspoken group of House Democratic congresswomen who have been given their own moniker.

Pascrell responded to a tweet from The Onion, a satirical website, that posted an article entitled "82-Year-Old New Jersey Congressman Bill Pascrell Quietly Asks Ilhan Omar If He Can Be Part Of The ...more
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 10:07 AM
That he had to ask speaks for itself.Squad had no choice but to accept him.Have they pursued any other whites &/or males?
By Taz (699), East Quogue on Jul 18, 19 10:09 AM
Sounds like all are welcome, no invite necessary:

"Our squad is big. Our squad includes any person committed to building a more equitable and just world. And that is the work that we want to get back to. And given the size of this squad and this great nation, we cannot, we will not, be silenced." - Rep. Ayanna Pressley.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 10:13 AM
Can you imagine a President telling Southern Dixiecrats in the 1960's to go back to their country! How radical, standing up for segregation and then being ruled unconstitutional. I mean how un-American could you have been to stand up for segregation.I'm sure there are plenty of radical right wing nuts on this website who would stand with dixiecrats on this issue even today.
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 3:27 PM
It's amazing how you lib's act like school children making s**t up and then running in circles screaming about it.

"It is unnecessary to repost your edited, transparently misleading lie so often, Po Boy."...HHS

"....and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 3:47 PM
Telling someone to go back to their country because you don't like what they have to say is racist. It's an expression of belief that you're superior and you dismiss others' views based on national origin or ethnic background. Telling them to come back after doesn't change anything.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 3:57 PM
He did not tell them to go back to their own country. He suggested that they do, clean whatever country it is up, then come back. Simple.

Here...an example....

Me: " Hey Fore, why don't you go back to your house and cut your lawn, it looks terrible, then come back and let's have a beer and you can help me with mine."

Did I TELL you to go do something? Did it sound racist?
And I notice nobody has anything to say about Omar and her anti-Semitic tweets.

Typical
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 8:40 PM
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I live in the SAME HOUSE as you! That was my parent's house in, like, the 70s!
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 9:30 PM
Thanks for clarifying. I was convinced trumps tweets were vile and pathetic. Thanks for giving such a nice sugar coated example. We need more people like you .
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 9:34 PM
the term 'racist' does not hold the stigma it once did due to over use by the alt left.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 18, 19 4:12 PM
I disagree. Casual racism used to be commonplace. Now you better look out for cellphone cameras before your livelihood is jeopardized by an off-color comment.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 4:18 PM
No, it still does. You wear it like a badge of honor
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 4:13 PM
As I said, the alt left's opinion on race doesn't matter in the real world.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 18, 19 4:43 PM
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...until you get fired for being racist
Jul 18, 19 4:47 PM appended by Fore1gnBornHBgrown
Also a reminder that it wasn't just the alt left who found Trump's tweets racist. All House Democrats, four House Republicans, and two Senate Republicans agreed.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 18, 19 4:47 PM
"There is no difference between being a racist and supporting a racist. This needed to be said because Trump."
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 18, 19 11:08 PM
Bf, heres a hint, the country is made up of many different people. Decent people were outraged at trumps classless tweets, you defended them. To be fair the majority of right leaning posters on here did also. To be frank, you don’t have a clue.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 18, 19 4:50 PM
The "right wing" is all for the unborn. Unless it cuts into profits from organophosphates. Looking for the cause of ADHD? Perhaps one needs look no further...


EPA green lights use of pesticide linked to brain damage in children

Ellen Knickmeyer, Associated Press Published 7:44 p.m. ET July 18, 2019
By Mr. Z (11670), North Sea on Jul 18, 19 11:10 PM
@Bayman3142

Your post is typically incoherent, beginning as it does with an unelaborated quote of my comment about Po Boy's latest lie. However, the remainder is at least sufficiently intelligible to be addressed:
--------------------------------

Quotes:

"Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came." - The Donald

"simple reading comprehension." - Bayman3142
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...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 19, 19 3:55 AM
tsk tsk.......fix it, and come back and show us how it's done.
Jul 19, 19 11:37 AM appended by Po Boy
The radical Left is incapable of practicing what they preach. The hypocrisy and bugaboo of lies by omission...
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 19, 19 11:37 AM
Why would they? They were elected HERE.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 19, 19 11:53 AM
HHS... no elaboration needed, your propensity to overlook the obvious is still as sharp as your mathematical and investigative skills, hovering somewhere as sharp as a banana.

Here, I will use your own words to help you squeeze out a legitimate thought.

HHS-
"@ Po Boy

Quote:

"Like my fellow liberals, I too hate America. ... "
--------------------------------

It is unnecessary to repost your edited, transparently misleading lie so often Po Boy.

We ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 12:36 PM
BAM!
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 19, 19 1:05 PM
100% agree. I called him out on it yesterday. I called it ”Lemonizing and Tappering”. Half truths mixed in with vocabulary words that no normal person uses on a daily basis. Because if that fact, most if not all of his responses come off as condescending and pompous.

Speaking of Lemon and Tapper and CNN on a grand scale. Did anyone see the insane article today titled:
“A Rise in Premature Births among Latina Women May be linked to Trump’s Election” written ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 19, 19 1:51 PM
@ Bayman3142 & Po Boy & DiseaseDiocese

Po Boy's casuistry is contagious:

Omitting the sentence, "THEN COME BACK AND SHOW US HOW" from the exhortation, "Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how....", in no way mitigates the racism of a statement directed at four women of color. (Three of whom were BORN here.) It is IRRELEVANT - - - which is why it was omitted.

By comparison, ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 19, 19 4:32 PM
Oh silly sad hat.

You have stepped on to the proverbial land mind.

What, pray tell, is the definition of "exhortation"?

Let me help you bananaman.

ex·hor·ta·tion
/ˌeɡzôrˈtāSH(ə)n,ˌeksôrˈtāSH(ə)n/
noun
an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

To URGE or to ORDER, that is the question....and you just answered it along with giving all posters ...more
Jul 19, 19 9:31 PM appended by Bayman3142
Apologies, autocorrect made mine mind
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 9:31 PM
@ Bayman3142

Don't know where you got your definition (because, as is the custom with Right-Wingers, you haven't cited your source), but Merriam-Webster defines "exhortation" as:

1 : an act or instance of exhorting (from "exhort" - : to incite by argument or advice : urge strongly")

2 : language intended to incite and encourage

Which definition makes "exhortation" THE perfect word to describe Trump's behavior. ("Why don't they go back ... etc.")

In ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 20, 19 1:50 AM
Thank you, HHS, for again proving that Trump merely suggested they return, not TELL them to return.

You keep proving my point for me! Wunderbar!

Now let's see....my definition of exhortation, which you failingly attempt to use against me.....

an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

YOUR definition....purported to be from Miriam Webster, although you have once again posted misleading, patently false, dishonest, and altered information.

Here ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 20, 19 11:26 AM
Thank you, HHS, for again proving that Trump merely suggested they return, not TELL them to return.

You keep proving my point for me! Wunderbar!

Now let's see....my definition of exhortation, which you failingly attempt to use against me.....

an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.

YOUR definition....purported to be from Miriam Webster, although you have once again posted misleading, patently false, dishonest, and altered information.

Here ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 20, 19 11:27 AM
@ Bayman3142

As is usual with your incoherent posts, I have trouble understanding what the point is that you think that you are making.

In any case, as the reference that I posted makes clear, "exhortation" is a perfect description of Trump's behavior. (At the risk of a further descent into the murky waters of your cognition, perhaps you could take a shot at explaining why you think it is NOT.)

After we wade through THAT swamp, perhaps you could explain as well why ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 20, 19 1:11 PM
Hat, the fact that I have to go back and explain simple bits of information to you becomes quite a bore.

I stated clearly for the intelligent clear thinking subject, that the fact that you chose the word "exhortation" as your description of Trumps tweet made the tweet a mere suggestion, not a command, as the left leaning dolts would lead small minds to believe. By omitting the "Why dont they" from the unedited quote, the tweet is no longer an exhortation but an order.

You admittedly ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 21, 19 1:10 AM
@ Bayman3142

Ah, I see the light.

You think that the omission of "Why don't they ... " from Trump's tweet changes it from a "suggestion" to an "order". And you misstate the meaning of "exhortation" as "order" (which is simply FALSE as show by BOTH your quoted definition of the word and mine.) So you argue that when I omitted "Why don't they ... ", I was deliberately distorting The Donald's statement to make his "suggestion" an "order" and that I used the word "exhortation" (qua ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 21, 19 8:47 AM
Sounds like trump hates his country.

By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 21, 19 9:06 AM
Most people hate ocasio-cortez.
By themarlinspike (518), Northern Hemisphere on Jul 21, 19 9:10 AM
*sigh*

Hat....when did I misstate the meaning of exhortation?

And thank you, once again, for reporting to us all how you lack investigative skill by commenting on Trumps tweet without even reading it.

Bravo!
Jul 21, 19 9:36 AM appended by Bayman3142
And when pray tell did I ever state it meant "order".... now your just making things up...typical. And here is your reporting on what you incorrectly thought Trumps said on July 15... "Three of the four congresswomen whom he told to "go back where you came from""..your unedited ignorant statement. If you would have read the tweet prior to sticking your foot in your mouth, you would know your "quote" was completely false, ignorant, misleading, and down right moronic.
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 21, 19 9:36 AM
@ Bayman3142

Quote:

"Hat....when did I misstate the meaning of exhortation?"
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When you ignorantly inferred that it meant "order"?
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Quote:

"And thank you, once again, for reporting to us all how you lack investigative skill by commenting on Trumps tweet without even reading it."
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Seriously? I quoted it IN FULL. ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 21, 19 12:51 PM
@ Bayman3142

Quotes:

"And when pray tell did I ever state it [exhortation] meant "order"...." - Bayman3142 (Jul 21, 19)
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"'ex·hor·ta·tion
/ˌeɡzôrˈtāSH(ə)n,ˌeksôrˈtāSH(ə)n/
noun
an address or communication emphatically urging someone to do something.'

To URGE or to ORDER, that is the question...." - Bayman3142 (Jul 19, 19)
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You ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 22, 19 2:31 AM
Speaking of dumb edits

To URGE or to ORDER, that is the question.

To URGE [or to] ORDER[COMMA]that is the [QUESTION].

Do I really have to to break this down for you?

I misconstrued nothing, you ignorantly assume, as is your modus operandi.

July 15 you state "whom he told to "go back where you came from""..your unedited, ignorant, uneducated and false statement. Now I could go and quote the definition of "told" from the Webster dictionary, but we all ...more
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 22, 19 11:19 AM
Nah, Trump told them to go back to their country. The U.S. House of Representatives called it racist and that will be part of America's history forever. Get over it.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 22, 19 11:23 AM
...and fix what is broken and then come back and show us how it's done.
By Po Boy (5083), Water Mill on Jul 22, 19 11:27 AM
@ Bayman3142

It's like talking to someone who has learned the form or the English language without intellectually inculcating it's SUBSTANCE.

"ORDER" or "COMMAND" is NOT a meaning of "EXHORTATION", nor is it important even if it were, regardless of your ignorant synonymous imputation. Whether Trump "ordered", or "commanded", or "urged" four woman of color to "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came" is irrelevant. Any of those meanings ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 22, 19 2:59 PM
Fore, to the uneducated dolt, you are correct. And are you not racist? Or do agree with Nazi belief? Educate yourself.
Jul 22, 19 3:01 PM appended by Bayman3142
And the MISCONCEPTION that you intend to foster is that trump ordered those 4 out of the country by ommitting the "why dont they" quoting that he "told" them to go back, then admitted it was a request with your "exhortation" statement. I have clearly shown I know the definition of exhortation by constantly showing your inept ability to actually carry the same thought through an entire thread. You are very confused as to whether the tweet was an order or a request, proven by your flip flop "told" or "exhortation" hackjob. You seem completely lost. But it's nice to see your "likey" friends come to the rescue...maybe now, in the words of fred s, you can have a circle jerk.
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 22, 19 3:01 PM
I know I'm correct, the official congressional record says so.

Please be specific when accusing someone of racism, thanks.
By Fore1gnBornHBgrown (8044), HAMPTON BAYS on Jul 22, 19 3:07 PM
@ Bayman3142

We do not seem to be speaking the same version of "English". I should have suspected this at the start when you revealed your unique concept of the meaning of the word "exhortation." (A meaning that appears in NO dictionary.)

Let me make one last attempt to get through to you.

It makes NO DIFFERENCE whether Trump "ordered" or "commanded" or "urged" or "suggested" that those four congresswomen of color "go back and help fix the totally broken and crime ...more
By highhatsize (4180), East Quogue on Jul 23, 19 4:16 AM
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By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 23, 19 11:14 PM
Ha!

The red ink hypocrisy strikes again!
By Bayman3142 (249), Southampton on Jul 24, 19 7:28 PM
Someday when children open their history books they are going to read a chapter about.......
How one man (President Trump) alone destroyed the entire Democratic Party via Twitter.
I can hear the children now asking,,,
" Mommy did that really happen?"
Yes darling, that's why we still have the USA.
By Ditch Bum (895), Water Mill on Jul 19, 19 8:33 AM
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Ditch bum, hopefully your kids are home schooled. No main stream history book will ever say that. The only books to say anything good about trump will be the self published books by you and your cronies.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 8:39 AM
Poll Shows Media Attack on Trump over ‘Squad’ Tweets Backfired

Fewer voters believe President Trump is racist and more believe he’s attacked as a racist only for political purposes, according to a poll taken after the fake news media launched a jihad to destroy the president over tweets aimed at the extremist Democrats known as “The Squad.”

In a Rasmussen poll of 1,000 likely voters taken on Monday and Tuesday, a full day after Trump blasted the Squad ...more
Jul 19, 19 8:52 AM appended by Ditch Bum
Give Trump credit. A political outsider he's a political genius.
By Ditch Bum (895), Water Mill on Jul 19, 19 8:52 AM
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No healthcare care bill, no wall, Commies using him like a rag doll, environmentally a disaster, coal mines going out of business, all-time record setting debt, created fewer jobs in his first twenty eight months than Obama did in his last twenty eight months. Endless dog whistles for a pathetic old white right wing nut "Americans." Nothing but a rabid horndog buffoon. But he did pass a massive tax cut to circle jerk with his buddies. Yup, he some genius
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 1:50 PM
...says the genius who thinks the moon landing was faked.

Yup, he some genius
By loading... (588), quiogue on Jul 19, 19 5:02 PM
“Old WHITE wing nut. Horndog. Circle jerk”—Metsfan

I’m positive I’ve had up to 20 posts deleted from 27east here that didn’t have anywhere near the language that this post has. But there it is, still sitting there.

Thank you for posting, Metsfan. Every time you add your 2 cents here, you show how much of an angry, triggered and disturbed individual you truly are.
Where are you 27east? Selective deleting? Only when the vitriol is towards ...more
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 19, 19 2:57 PM
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Nope, just part of the majority of people in this country who think like me. Clueless and racist is no way to go through life. In sixteen months your ugly validation of your anti-American thoughts will be just a blip on the history screen. Besides what did I say that wasn't true?
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 10:20 PM
6,000,000 New Jobs Since Election Day

Record Minority Unemployment



By Undocumented Democrat (2036), southampton on Jul 19, 19 3:46 PM
Get a new talking point ud.Unemployment Percentages went farther down under Obama. Obama took the ball to the two yard line, the orange cheetoh runs it in and wants all the credit. Why don't you talk about about the amount of record setting debt this administration is accumulating?
By Mets fan (1485), Southampton on Jul 19, 19 10:28 PM
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50 years ago first brave men land on the moon, Apollo 11 space flight and moon landing!

These men were exceptional..... The Apollo 11 mission epitomized American greatness and exceptionalism, Great job !
By 27dan (2812), Shinnecock Hills on Jul 20, 19 12:50 AM
Yes, because we had an aspirational leader of grandeur and grace and vision.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 20, 19 3:19 PM
Richard Nixon?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 20, 19 4:14 PM
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Richard Nixon?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 20, 19 4:14 PM
Richard Nixon?
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 20, 19 5:01 PM
No surprise that resigning in disgrace is your idea of grandeur and grace. Realize what an azz you look like?
Jul 20, 19 7:39 PM appended by June Bug
In his September 1962 Moon Speech at Rice University in Texas, President Kennedy publicly prayed when he said, “Well, space is there, and we’re going to climb it, and the moon and the planets are there, and new hopes for knowledge and peace are there. And therefore, as we set sail, we ask God’s blessing on the most hazardous and dangerous and greatest adventure on which man has ever embarked. " Fifty years ago the world prayed watching Commander Neil Armstrong take "one small step for [a] man, one giant leap for mankind." The day is as historic for the way it joined our hopes for their safety and our dreams for our future as one connected human family. I pray to see another president respected and admired the world over.
By June Bug (2596), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 20, 19 7:39 PM
Nixon was president when we landed on the moon, that's what you were seemingly alluding to, JFK was a whoremonger , even that wouldn't make him palatable to today's uber left Democrat party.
By bigfresh (4592), north sea on Jul 21, 19 7:04 AM
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have You looked at trumps “record” with women? 3 wives, last count 16 women accused him of sexual impropriety. Stiffing contractors when he was a “builder”. Using separation of families as a deterrent to those seeking asylum. Trump is the slimiest low moral leader we’ve come across. Almost forget , he’s an racist and bigot. There you go bf, the bar is set very low. If you look up “whoremonger “ in the dictionary, there’s a pic of trump
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 21, 19 9:23 AM
Fred, you don't really expect the Trumpettes to stop drinking the Kool-Aid, do you?

Fiddle Fiddle Fiddle !!!

By Nero (297), Sag Harbor on Jul 21, 19 9:37 AM
A man can hope. I’m beginning to think they are a lost cause.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 21, 19 9:46 AM
I’m sure if that speech was today, by a president that WAS respected and admired...the new ultra liberal left wing progressive party would complain about it. Whether it be the praising of a WHITE MALE that walked on the moon or maybe even the mere mention of God. You can guarantee an outcry somewhere. Unless maybe the speech was conducted by a hijab wearing feminazi with purple hair. Then maybe it would be accepted.
Like I always say. The Democrat party that I remember is GONE!!
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 21, 19 1:18 AM
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Diseased, apparently any common sense and decency you had is also gone from you. You continue with your nutty nonsensical posts, in the end you are entertaining.
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 21, 19 6:29 AM
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And by that response, I know you know I’m right. We’ve gone over this already. Any time you call anyone nutty, or crazy or a moron...you lose the argument. It’s written in the first chapter of Arguing With a Liberal 101.
By DiseaseDiocese (631), Riverhead on Jul 22, 19 4:02 PM
I know you know I’m right? Hahahahahahahahahah
By Fred s (3188), Southampton on Jul 22, 19 4:12 PM
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