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Apr 15, 2016 11:26 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Southampton Village Looks To Limit Number Of Vehicles Allowed On Beach At Picnic Area

The Southampton Village Board is looking to limit the number of vehicles at the Picnic Area in the summer during the day to 175. GREG WEHNER
Apr 20, 2016 12:08 PM

Southampton Village Board members have scheduled a public hearing to discuss changing the number of vehicles that will be allowed to drive on the beach during the day at the Picnic Area—a 2,000-foot-long section of beach that runs between the village’s western boundary and Road F—between Memorial Day and Labor Day.

The hearing, which will take place on May 12 at Village Hall, will allow members of the public to weigh in on a proposal to limit the number of vehicles on the only stretch of ocean-facing beach in Southampton Town that people are permitted to drive on between the hours of 9 a.m. and 6 p.m. in the summer months, to 175 vehicles.

The village plans to police the number of vehicles allowed on the beach by setting up a single access point at the heliport between the hours of 9 a.m. and 6 p.m.

At a Village Board meeting on Thursday night, Southampton Village Mayor Mark Epley said the access point at Road F will be gated off during the day and that a physical barrier will be put in place to block vehicles from entering the area from the Shinnecock East County Park, located at the village’s western boundary.

Once the vehicle limit is reached, Mr. Epley said, those with beach driving passes will be allowed to park in the helipad parking lot on Meadow Lane, which is currently being expanded by an additional 75 spaces, although the pass will not allow them to park in any other village lots, like the one at Coopers Beach.

The proposed change comes after a recent lawsuit filed against the Village of Southampton, the Southampton Town Trustees and the State Department of Environmental Conservation alleging that the village and Trustees were unfairly and illegally allowing vehicles on a small portion of the beach during the day in the summertime, while excluding them from other beaches. The suit, which was filed by attorney Nica B. Strunk on behalf of property owners Kathleen Araskog Thomas, Andrew S. Thomas, Rand V. Araskog and Jessi M. Araskog on October 21, 2015, is still pending.

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By GO HOME (7), Southampton on Apr 15, 16 1:38 PM
"which alleges that the village and trustees were unfairly and illegally allowing vehicles on a small portion of the beach during the day in the summertime, while excluding them from other beaches."

On the contrary? My interpretation of the allowance is- a generous and well thought out selection of a portion of beach adjacent to an already motor-vehicled traversed section of county park where people didn't beach-go to accommodate the YEAR ROUND RESIDENTS who requested such an area...That ...more
By foodwhiner (140), Southampton on Apr 15, 16 1:52 PM
Foodwhiner, could u plz elaborate a bit more on the 10 year Adverse Doctrine re: Jims Aerys Way ....
By toes in the water (769), southampton on Apr 16, 16 7:58 AM
These persons seem to have purchased a house.

This is OUR home.

home (hōm) noun

1. the place where one lives permanently, especially as a member of a family or household.
Apr 16, 16 9:02 PM appended by Mr. Z
http://www.27east.com/news/article.cfm/Southampton-Village-Surrounding-Areas/127446/Oceanfront-Homeowners-Sue-Over-Trucks-On-Southampton-Beach
By Mr. Z (11114), North Sea on Apr 16, 16 9:02 PM
Ok thnx! Just wanted to know. I was born and raised here!!!

This is MY hometown.

Hometown ( hom toun ) noun

1.the town where was born or grew up

By toes in the water (769), southampton on Apr 17, 16 2:12 PM
It's an embellishment on my part of the doctrine which loosely means if you occupy land that's not yours for more than 10 years with out being told vacate you can stay...something like that...

Four-wheeling beach-goers have been using that beach, with access at Road G, aka J. Aery Way...for more than ten years, and longer than most, if not all, of the oceanfront properties along that strip of beach. Seems we should be grandfathered in.
By foodwhiner (140), Southampton on Apr 18, 16 9:27 AM
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(This is somewhat simplified but) No one can claim government land via adverse possession
By Nature (2966), Southampton on Apr 18, 16 9:47 AM
Grandfather clause? :D
By foodwhiner (140), Southampton on Apr 25, 16 4:20 PM
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WOW...BLOCKED FOR STATING PUBLIC INFO ABOUT SITUATION...DON'T WORRY WE ALL KNOW WHO IS AT FAULT/ RESPONSIBLE HERE..AND WE ALSO KNOW WHO CAN HELP US FIGHT (BUT THEY WON'T)

I KNOW SH PRESS IS NOT "THE GUARDIAN" BUT HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR YOURSELVES AS JOURNALISTS
By GO HOME (7), Southampton on Apr 15, 16 3:33 PM
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Friends of SABA if you don't voice your opinion at the time that is appropriate, like now, then you can't complain after.
Fight hard all the way and demand the rights that the public should have.
By H2O (85), easthampton on Apr 15, 16 3:51 PM
JOIN SABA TODAY!!!!!
By bigfresh (4249), north sea on Apr 15, 16 6:06 PM
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What is happening to our way of ife? Everywhere you look, someone wants what you have had for a very long time. Stand up, people!
By Hamptonsseashell (359), on Apr 15, 16 6:14 PM
Support the SOUTHAMPTON TOWN TRUSTEES!!!!!! SEND YOU LETERS TO THE STATE!!! SIGN THE PETITION AT SOUTHAMPTONBEACH.ORG
By toes in the water (769), southampton on Apr 16, 16 7:51 AM
Close the freaking heliport while you're at it - jeepers.
By Vikki K (490), Southampton on Apr 16, 16 8:22 PM
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When those from away destroyed a race track, there was nary a peep. When those from away destroyed a drag strip, there was but a whimper. When McManisons became a higher priority than farming, there was hardly a whisper.

Are people angry enough yet? Or shall those from away be allowed to destroy every last local bastion?
Apr 16, 16 8:50 PM appended by Mr. Z
I believe it's time to draw a line in the sand, as it were.
By Mr. Z (11114), North Sea on Apr 16, 16 8:50 PM
All I had when I got my license was a county sticker on my jeep bumper. Nothing else existed. I drove found the right spot and settled in for an afternoon of relaxation. Not just in Southampton but East Hampton as well. Never was there a crowd, but like a discriminated class of people we have been herded into a smaller and smaller pen. Now those who have been fortunate enough to make millions want it all to themselves. The solution is simple from the time when the pilgrims came and roamed the beaches ...more
By North Sea Citizen (528), North Sea on Apr 17, 16 8:14 AM
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Leave some room for Dune Beach and that would work!! The crowd situation would be eliminated by allowing us to spread out.
By bigfresh (4249), north sea on Apr 17, 16 8:24 AM
2000 ft long section divided by 12' (average parking spot width) = 166 vehicles.
divided by 10 = 200 vehicles. I think the problem was vehicles 3-5 deep on a sunday. So car pooling to the beach might be a good idea. But opening up other village beaches to residents of the town is a better idea as that is who patronizes the village itself all year long. Particularly from Water MIll, North Sea and tuckahoe. Perhaps simply allowing these areas lower priced beach stickers to village beaches would ...more
By AL (70), southampton on Apr 17, 16 11:11 AM
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Have YOU signed the PETITION in SUPPORT OF THE TRUSTEES? GO TO Southamptonbeach.org !!! Than go to CFAR please and sign their petiton as well! Please have every family member sign the petitions. Wealthy homeowners and their multi million dollars lawsuit needs to be stopped and prevented and NOT just with the beach an the trustees. We need to unite as a community! Look at the BH race track , Wainscott Sand an gravel, The Picnic Area, Truck Beach an so on....What will be next ? ;(
By toes in the water (769), southampton on Apr 24, 16 8:16 AM
"Spreading out" does not take into account the wildlife that is also here - people do not pay much attention to the breeding areas of Piping Plovers - so spreading out is not a solution if you want to keep the beaches clean and intact - since the natural grasses prevent the whole thing from washing away in winter storms...run over those and no beach in no time.
By Vikki K (490), Southampton on Apr 28, 16 1:14 PM
If "spreading out" on the beach means that we have taking away from potential piping plovers homes, Well what do we tell Joe Farell ? Stop spreading out your unsold Mansions bc it's destroying the homes of the wildlife here. Pushing the Deer out of their natural habitat so that they have no food to eat, thus destroying the vegetation in in my yard. Or the poor birds who have lost their nest in the tree he cut down!! When there is a presence of piping plover on the beach, those areas are fenced ...more
By toes in the water (769), southampton on Apr 29, 16 7:54 AM
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