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Jan 5, 2009 6:09 PMPublication: The Southampton Press

Sally Pope introduces her first resolution

Jan 5, 2009 6:09 PM

In her first act as the newest member of the Southampton Town Board, Councilwoman Sally Pope is asking the New York State Board of Elections to officially rename the position of “councilman” and instead use a term that is gender neutral.

As it stands now, the official certificates of election, such as the one Ms. Pope received when she won a seat on the Town Board in November, list “councilman” as the elective office. The position of “councilman” is 
also listed on voting machines throughout the state and absentee paper ballots.

“We can laugh about it,” Ms. Pope said. “But candidates for public office are often female, not male.” The new face on the Town Board said her desire to change the listing of the position is about social justice and equality.

Her resolution, which is being sent to New York Governor David Paterson, State Senator Ken LaValle and State Assemblyman Fred Thiele as well as other state officials, recommends “town councilperson” or “Town Council member” as possible alternatives.

Brian Bossetta

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Seriously ? Give me a freakin' break !
By PrivateerMatt (390), Weesuck Creek , EQ on Jan 7, 09 11:08 AM
I totally commend Sally Pope on her obviously important work. Perhaps she might help me with something . I think the (sometimes) gentler sex would want equal time to accorded to our under street workers and their entrypoints thereof. I'm sure Sally Pope would agree that the term 'manhole' which men have had an exclusive on since the beginning of time should be changed to 'womanhole' and kept that way until the end of time. Hopefully the latter will have a longer time with it.
By gnsh37 (1), East Hampton on Jan 7, 09 5:03 PM
Let's See.....We are in the deepest hole in decades, school's are crumbling, tax base is vanishing, open space is disappearing, no viable place for middle class to live, no policy on illegal aliens invading the town, energy policy that's in chaos...and Ms Pope has put all of her energy since election day into.....what!!!!????

this will be a real treat to watch. chances of re-election 0.0
We lost a gem in Mr. Russo
By eastender09 (22), southampton on Jan 7, 09 5:50 PM
With forward thinking like this the Town of Southampton is in for a few rough years. There might be more important issues to consider. Instead of changing the name let's leave the name as is and bring back Tom Demayo.
By westhamptonboy (227), Westhampton on Jan 7, 09 5:54 PM
Hmmmm, what's next? Sally Popette? (Pope has a masculine ring to it somehow...).

Sheesh, and I voted for her!
By Watermillian (2), Water Mill on Jan 7, 09 6:28 PM
This is all a part of the "Change You Can Believe In". Can you believe it?
By hamptonyte (13), Southampton on Jan 7, 09 9:45 PM
Hey WHboy....don't you mean Dan Russo? That who Pope ran against.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jan 7, 09 9:45 PM
Now if this isn't a specacular display of leadership................where do I puke?

Come on Sally, I thought you were going to provide health insurance to FD and ambulance folks, reinvent the wheel, draw and quarter anyone who ever voted for a Republican and in general just bless us with your good grces. Not a good start.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Jan 8, 09 8:38 AM
"Councilman" is a sexist term (if it refers to a position that can be held by women) and it should be changed. Councilwoman Pope did the right thing by raising this issue. Asking for this change will not take up a lot of her time, and it's a correction that needs to be made. I applaud her stand and am certain Supervisor Kabot and the other council people will support her.

Language often reflects the mentality of a people and needs to adjust accordingly.
By Steven (113), Westhampton on Jan 8, 09 8:49 AM
woman/women then arent these sexist terms also ??
By david h (405), southampton on Jan 21, 11 1:09 PM
are you kidding me, she wants is doing this in the name of social justice! what about social justice for the citizens of this town that have received a tax increase, local and state, we are hemorraging citizens and her top priority is a name change, which I agree she could have petitioned for change at her leisure. how about social justice for citizens who pay increased taxes while illegal aliens send their dollars south. She is a disgrace, social justice, try ego and out to lunch!
By tom (53), Hampton Bays on Jan 8, 09 10:37 PM
Reminds me of a time, some years ago, that a woman took over the job of postmaster in the Harbor. I had a question of her and due to my extreme egalitarian nature addressed her as Post-Mistress (Too much alliteration in Post-Person). Only to be greeted with a stream of invectives ending with "I'm nobody's mistress".


You just can't win!
By Bill (68), North Haven on Jan 9, 09 1:53 PM
The fact is that Ms. Pope has probably not changed since she was elected. She obviously has a personal agenda with her own insecurity. The real shame is that the press, generally, failed to properly vet her; and, the public acquiesced to this failure. Now she is in a position to waste precious resources on an inane issue while ignoring issues of substance which affect the lives and livelihood of the public at large.
By BM (10), Southampton on Jan 10, 09 10:10 PM
Do you really expect that a SH Town council-women could come in change the current economic situation of the area? I agree with your rather humorous points to an extent...she probably should not have started with this, but if you ask me this inane issue beats Kabot’s "No cloth-line" inane legislation for the town.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jan 11, 09 12:13 PM
There just doesn't seem to be many good qualified people left running for political office. If the gender issue is at the top of Pope's agenda then God help the town. Pope needs a reality check.
By harbor man (38), sag harbor on Jan 12, 09 9:47 AM
The New York State Board of Elections has enough problems to deal with right now, especially with the introduction of optical scan voting machines that will replace lever machines statewide in September.

Southampton Town itself has enough problems to deal with right now. A freshman Council whatever is going to be even less effective if she drives such an insignificant issue instead of more pressing business.
By tigerman (1), Southampton on Jan 13, 09 12:21 AM
What a joke.
By Woody (15), Westhampton Beach on Jan 15, 09 4:20 PM
I propose that we change the ending of woman to womperson! I bet Sally would have my back!
By Woody (15), Westhampton Beach on Jan 18, 09 1:46 AM