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Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

Rumor about attack in village is debunked by police

Jul 1, 2010 11:44 AM

The rumors of Tom Wedell’s death have been greatly exaggerated, and the well-known protester himself confirmed Wednesday morning that he’s alive and well.

Since Monday, a completely false yet pervasive rumor has been spreading throughout Southampton, and beyond, that Tom Wedell of East Moriches, who frequently protests illegal immigration with a sign outside the busy 7-Eleven on North Sea Road in Southampton Village, had been the victim of violence. He has not been at the 7-Eleven, wielding his “When they jumped the fence, they broke the law” sign recently.

But, Mr. Wedell said he has simply had some full-time work over the past two weeks. He has been working in Center Moriches as a roofing and siding contractor, he said. He added that the job is almost over and, unless he gets more work, he will be back to protesting full-time.

“The tales of my demise are greatly exaggerated,” he said.

He noted that his wallet was stolen recently out of his car, which was parked at the 7-Eleven.

Village Police Chief William Wilson said Wednesday that the rumor likely started after a fatal car accident occurred near the 7-Eleven around 1 a.m. Monday. The Southampton Town Police put out a press release later that morning about the accident, but did not include the victim’s name. Being that Mr. Wedell is known to protest outside the 7-Eleven, people could have heard that someone died near there and assumed it was Mr. Wedell, the police chief said.

Police sent an updated press release the same day reporting the name of the victim, Margarito Rojano Dejesus, 33, of Southampton—but by then the rumor had started to go viral, some variations alleging that he had been murdered, and that the crime was being covered up.

Chief Wilson said that he has called the Town Police and other police departments with a 7-Eleven within their boundaries, but no one knew anything about Mr. Wedell being killed or even injured. Suffolk County and Town Police spokespersons likewise confirmed that there had been no such incident, nor an incident of violence involving Mr. Wedell.

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I heard this rumor early this morning, that being Tom Wedell, while protesting was set upon by 4 or 5 hispanic gang members and murdered. To be honest, in these times it would not surprise me, but the part about the police covering up the crime didn't fly. The police might sit on story for a few hours to get re-enforcements in place for the expected public backlash, but to cover up Tom's murder, is totally not possible.
There has been a lot discussion about this crime on early morning trucker's ...more
By BruceB (142), Sag Harbor on Jun 30, 10 4:17 PM
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"There has been a lot discussion about this crime on early morning trucker's ".....

I get your point, but there was no "crime". There was just a rumor.
By Terry (380), Southampton on Jun 30, 10 8:24 PM
"Mouthampton", anyone?
Jul 12, 10 5:14 PM appended by Mr. Z
12,000,000 / 50 = 240,000 Divide that by the number of counties that are overrun, or have them in a state, and the number goes LOWER.
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jun 30, 10 5:14 PM
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I would not be surprised if Mr. Wedell and his group started this rumor themselves to stir up hatreds which is, after all, their very reason for existence
By lablover (104), Southampton on Jun 30, 10 6:31 PM
Guess what, illegal is not a race! You say his groups reason for existence is to stir up hatred(s).... wrong they seek enforcement of our immigration laws and the securing of our boarders. Keep saying it's about hatred(s) though it only strengthens our resolve to enforce the law and prove you wrong. Have you been a traitor all your life?
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jun 30, 10 6:47 PM
Excellent pun with the word "boarders"...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jun 30, 10 8:12 PM
Are you 100 percent american, or are you one of these people who is Irish on st.Pat, Italian when you are in an Italian restaraunt ,who are you, how did your people get here, we all come from some where, we are talking about a rumor and how fast they travel around by all of us from every race, almost like the game of telephone,
By ICARE (23), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 30, 10 9:17 PM
ICE, where in my posting did I say "illegal". You, like Mr. Wedell, are simply always looking for an excuse to spew your hatred. Your rash and puerile use of the word "traitor" shows how very little you actually know about this country and its history. I feel sorry for you and your compatriots who are so full of hate and anger.
By lablover (104), Southampton on Jun 30, 10 10:10 PM
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By the way, Ice, a "boarder" is someone to whom you rent a room.
By lablover (104), Southampton on Jun 30, 10 10:11 PM
Nowhere in your comment did you use "illegal". Although you didn't need to, as we all know what Mr. Wedell is protesting against.... illegal immigration. Therefore by your condemnation of his protest of it, you support something which undermines our national security and compromises our sovereignty, thus making you a traitor.
You ought to look up the definition of traitor before you claim it can't be applied to you. You betray the idea of national sovereignty and the rule of law which are two ...more
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 11:14 AM
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ICARE - If your statement was referring to me here is your answer, No I am not Irish on St. Patricks Day or Italian when in an Italian Restaurant. I don't even go to St. Patrick's Day Parades. I am 100% American as it's been many generations since my family came here. I even have some Native American in me as well. What difference this makes, I don't know. No one is saying we have always been here. People are saying that there is a right and a wrong way to come here regardless of race, nationality ...more
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 11:34 AM
you re so right and actually make me wonder about mr wendell lineage? where is from? does he know himself? it is the question ? I think mr wendell need to put his ass in a plane and travel himself a little bit .....it might find some others causes to fight instead of ambarrassing himself and make people or himself creating rumors ...it's a real disease in the hamptons,,,,people have nothing better to do than gossip make rumors and talk about people get a life and eventually a brain!!
By dlb (21), sag harbor on Jul 1, 10 9:45 PM
HUH??????WHAT'S MEAN 100% AMERICAN???? MANY GENERATIONS ....HOW MUCH IS '' MANY'' THEN 2, 4 , 6 , 7 ,12, 33,57????? YOUR FAMILY CAME FROM WHERE THEN ??? AND GOOD TO NOTIFY YOU ARE AWARE OF YOU ARE ALSO A NATIVE AMERICAN THEY 'VE BEEN HERE FIRST
huh wath was the point again:-)!
By dlb (21), sag harbor on Jul 1, 10 9:53 PM
SOVEREIGNTY ouah what a word you used here Im getting much more impressed by your writting!
By dlb (21), sag harbor on Jul 1, 10 10:00 PM
Ha! Like you're one to talk about hate and anger. Go re-read your 97 posts.
By flyonthewall (30), Southampton on Jul 5, 10 12:33 AM
In case there was any doubt, that comment was a reply to lablover above.
By flyonthewall (30), Southampton on Jul 5, 10 12:35 AM
Times are much different now. get with it. It's very a very romantic dream that it is like it was. Speak to immigrants who came here legally; it is a slap in the face for them too. Yes, we ALL come from somewhere else, but our relatives did it through the proper channels, and were proud to be part of the USA. Why is it that when you see a news clip and a reporter speaks to an Hispanic who has been here legally or not for 20 years, the Hispanic STILL doesn't speak English? Don't tell me it's because ...more
By clamdigger (79), Quogue on Jul 5, 10 9:42 AM
Im guilthy as i heard this rumor this morning at seven am and i might have asked few people about it and then i also heard about it from other random people, I guess mouthampton is quite appropiate, I hope we all learn our lesson
By ICARE (23), SOUTHAMPTON on Jun 30, 10 6:45 PM
If History is the judge, NO, we won't...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jun 30, 10 7:58 PM
Yep the rumor or news is spreading like wildfire
By nosib (5), southampton on Jun 30, 10 7:27 PM
What a shame
By johnnyhampton (81), Southampton on Jun 30, 10 7:28 PM
Mr. Wedell needs to get a job.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jun 30, 10 10:13 PM
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Actually, Mr. Wedell is a roofer in the afternoons.
By Draggerman (903), Southampton on Jun 30, 10 10:24 PM
My brother in law Tom is a hard worker, Its amazing how rumors fly. Family members were getting these phone calls, it was very upsetting. I thank the Southampton Press for setting the record straight. It shows that one little rumor can turn a family upside down. People Should get their facts straight before they open their mouth.
By Family (1), Center Moriches on Jul 1, 10 6:22 AM
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If her were such a hard worker he would not spend so much time outside the 7-11. He is not even from Southampton and should go home.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jul 1, 10 9:34 AM
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There ya go again, fcmcmann ma'am, trying to distate to someone else how they should believe and act.
By Frank Wheeler (1811), Northampton on Jul 1, 10 9:47 AM
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Ahh, Frank, I've missed you. How does my post "distate" to Mr. Wedell how he should believe and act? My post only states how I feel about him and his cowardly behavior. He is a bigot and, I believe, I very poor sign post for the entrance to the Village of Southampton. Your defense of him is not surprising and says as much about you as him. Have a great holiday!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jul 1, 10 9:58 AM
Ahh, FC, I see we share the same difficulty in striking the intended keys. I meant "dictate," just as you probably meant "he" instead of "her" and "a" instead of "I."

So, let me ask if YOU think Mr. Wedell is such a "poor sign post for the entrance to the Village of Southampton," is a sea of people of questionable documentation any better?

Now try to stay with the dialog and away from the name-calling, OK?

I will enjoy my holiday -- if you're over this way, follow your ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1811), Northampton on Jul 1, 10 10:10 AM
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My condolances to the family of the deceased.
My heartfelt thanks to Mr. Wedell for providing a reality check to the open borders gang.
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Jul 1, 10 7:09 AM
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Whether you approve of Toms message or not, you must respect his courage, diligence & right as an American to voice his opinion. We should have more Americans willing to stand up & voice their opinions the way Tom does.
By Draggerman (903), Southampton on Jul 1, 10 7:18 AM
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It takes absolutely no courage to go out and wave a flag in the face of those least able to defend themselves. If he really wants to make a change he should go wave his flag in DC as immigration is a federal issue and stop harassing folks who came her because of a DEMAND for their labor. Mr. Wedell is a coward.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jul 1, 10 9:31 AM
I look forward to the time you march up to Mr. Wedell and tell him he is a "coward" to his face.
By Frank Wheeler (1811), Northampton on Jul 1, 10 9:48 AM
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Why, Frank, because he'll hit me? Are you saying Mr. Wedell is a violent man? I agree. By the way, I HAVE told him to his face how I feel and you know what he said to me, a white-skinned American citizen of European decent who has lived her for over 25 years? He said, "Go back to where you came from." Smart man.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jul 1, 10 10:01 AM
If there was truly a "demand" for labor wouldn't they all be working instead of standing on the side of the road all day?
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 11:21 AM
No--Mr.Wedell is an honest, hardworking American citizen that pays taxes and believes that those that are working with Visas or staying in their countries with their families waiting to come to the land of freedoms...respect the law...Deserve someone here to standup and help them not have the "line cut through ILLEGAL MEANS OF BEATING THE SYSTEM OF EQUALITY OF FREEDOMS IN THIS COUNTRY CALLED THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!"
By UNITED states CITIZEN (207), SOUTHAMPTON on Jul 2, 10 11:44 AM
Protesting against the Government is an American right, just as you have a right to post here.Tom Wedell is an American voicing his opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. His isn't a message of hate, but a message of fear. Fear that the current immigration laws will be the demise of America.

I'm not saying that I approve, or disapprove, of Tom's message. I do, however approve of him voicing his opinion as an American. To argue with that is, in my opinion, un-American.
By Draggerman (903), Southampton on Jul 3, 10 12:01 PM
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Tom.......Perhaps you could change to a sign that says, "when you hire a non-citizen, you are breaking the law".
If no-one hires them, they will go home.....at no cost to the
US taxpayer.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jul 1, 10 8:19 AM
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Self Deportation an excellent idea!
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 11:35 AM
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deporte yourself will be better idea !
By dlb (21), sag harbor on Jul 1, 10 9:56 PM
I can't be deported.... I belong here unlike those who "jumped the fence"
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 2, 10 12:17 PM
i am glad that Tom Wedell’s is not dead he is a very nice person
By fdny7318 (60), Water Mill on Jul 1, 10 9:22 AM
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Mr. Wedell is a bigot who spreads hate and fear. Just look at his sign "when they jumped the fence" Firstly, the sign is clearly meant as a slur against Latinos. It says nothing about Irish, Polish, Italian, German, etc. it says, "when they jumped the FENCE" Mr. Wedell is a racist, pure and simple, as are his cohorts. I have heard the slurs they've made, I have seen them harass the men looking for work. As I said before, he is a coward.
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jul 1, 10 9:33 AM
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Mr. Wedell is an American citizen not only exercising his First Amendment rights, but standing up and doing something about his beliefs.

Whether you agree with him or not, give your devil his due: he is out there, sometimes all by himself, on the lines.

Let's put it this way, would YOU stand across the street from him with a sign saying "Let the undocumented Americans work in the name of humanity" or something to the effect of what you believe is the case?

Now you can ...more
By Frank Wheeler (1811), Northampton on Jul 1, 10 9:59 AM
Frank, I have attended a number of PRO-IMMIGRANT rallies here and in DC. When I did it here, the name calling came from Mr. Wedell and his misinformed, cowardly cohorts. The fact that he stands out there "all by himself" and espouses hate, bigotry and fear is not something to be admired. By the way, the first amendment applies to me as well, although you clearly wish it didn't.

Again, happy holiday and remember of on the fourth that this country was founded by immigrants who stole ...more
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Jul 1, 10 10:08 AM
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I will take you at your word and congratulate you on your activism away from your keyboard.

A joyous 4th to all the McManns. FC and otherwise.
By Frank Wheeler (1811), Northampton on Jul 1, 10 10:15 AM
It says nothing about Irish, Polish, Italian, German, etc. it says, "when they jumped the FENCE"

Please.... How can one jump a fence from Ireland, Poland, Italy or Germany and land on American soil?

You say it's a slur against Latinos, there is plenty of video of people jumping fences along our borders, most of them do happen to be Latino. While you may not like it or agree, it is fact. The Latinos make up 97% of the fence jumpers along our border with Mexico. This doesn't make ...more
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 11:44 AM
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Frank you are arguing with a Liberal.
You need to follow some rules when doing so

1. Suspend common sense
2. Never assume the Liberal respects or appreciates how great it is to be an American.
3. Never, ever, ever bring up our laws as the Liberal does not recognize them.
4. Never expect the Liberal to admit to being wrong about anything. (By doing so they have to turn in their Liberal badge)
5. Erase all borders from your maps.
6. Have a large bottle of scotch on ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 1, 10 11:52 AM
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When the Irish, Polish, German and Italians jump the fence they land in the ocean.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 1, 10 2:01 PM
do YOU still have a job? Wait until they take yours .......it's just a matter of time
By clamdigger (79), Quogue on Jul 5, 10 9:32 AM
Well, numbers 2, and 3 are quite open ended.

However the rest seems rather familiar...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 10, 10 8:51 AM
FRANK I LIKED UR FIRST COMMENT
By fdny7318 (60), Water Mill on Jul 1, 10 10:17 AM
It is far more likely that a crime of violence would be committed against one of the Latinos or the Sisters of Mercy who aid and assist them and their families. A community-spirited friend of mine who assists them in finding jobs reported that the Latinos and the Sisters are verbally abused on a regular basis and that it is this same abusive group who carry the flags and signs. Occasionally their abuse borders on physical threats as well and the police have been called numerous times. Worst of ...more
By Dodger (158), Southampton Village on Jul 1, 10 10:36 AM
Jul 1, 10 9:34 AM
If her were such a hard worker he would not spend so much time outside the 7-11. He is not even from Southampton and should go home.
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fcmcmann (Hampton Bays)

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Yes, if you are not from here please don't stand in front of 7-11 and just go home. Wait... who are we talking about?
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 1, 10 11:00 AM
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The same people who are saying Mr. Wedell does not have a right to stand in front of 7-11 because he is from out of town are saying that the illegals have a right to be in this country illegally...how does that make sense?

Mr Wedell is an American citizen with the right to voice his opinion. Illegals are ILLEGAL and are breaking the law.

As far as citizenship...some of my relatives came here as recently as 50 years ago. They entered legally, where sponsored by are relative (a ...more
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Jul 2, 10 8:32 AM
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"this country was founded by immigrants who stole ... more the land from the native inhabitants - in other words, "illegals" although, unlike you and Mr. Wedell, they were enlightened, progressive thinkers who welcomed hard working, peace loving individuals."

Well...some of the founders did own slaves, fcmcmann, so I'm not sure how enlightened or progressive they were, and they were all complicit in the legalization of chattel slavery, an evil institution that outlived all of them. But ...more
By DrEngine (10), Brookhaven on Jul 1, 10 11:03 AM
Wedell’s hatred is what made this rumor believable - reap what you sow ...
By Noah Way (450), Southampton on Jul 1, 10 2:12 PM
Remember the Alamo! By the way, most Native Americans (ie. the Apache's and Commanches) near Mexico hated Mexicans and raided and scalped them every chance they got.
By darwin (47), southampton on Jul 1, 10 3:58 PM
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American Pie Hole - its not about disdain for laws. Some of us just tend to hold dear the fact that this country was built by immigrants and has improved, along with the help of many a citizen, to be in the condition it's in now. We may be in a recession, we may be in a depression, we may have a litany of other issues to contend with, but the fact of the matter is, without the hard work, sweat and blood both parties have put into this country, its safe to say, we wouldn't be living in such comfortable ...more
By hmmmm (3), sag harbor on Jul 1, 10 4:08 PM
You are right this country was partially built by immigrants, yes all of our origins here go back to an immigrant at one time or another. What we are talking about here is ILLEGAL immigration, get it? It is a totally different kind of immigration than my ancestors to part in. bigfresh is right if you hire one you are guilty of a crime, if you don't pay the require taxes, medicaid and S.S. then you are adding to your criminality. These are facts, like it or not this is the law of the land.
My ...more
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 5:33 PM
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What the liberal minded folks here fail to recognize is that the debate is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, GET IT, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!! No where in the discussion has anyone decried those who ente our country lawfully. By siding with illegal immigrants you are condoning criminal activity, if you hire one you have committed a crime, if you pay one off the books you have committed another crime, what is so difficult to understand? Those who came here illegally are criminals and should be treated as such. ...more
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Jul 1, 10 5:18 PM
I don't have a horse in this race, but the amount of comments has inspired me to share a thought. Our garden center is going on its 35th anniversary. One of the things we learned early on, is that people would prefer to be served by someone they can communicate with. Everyone at Aspatuck is an American, whether born in New York or Puerto Rico.
Now we are forced to compete with other businesses, who use cheaper illegal labor. This puts us at a disadvantage cost wise, but we feel its the right ...more
By Aspatuck Gardens (30), Westhampton Beach on Jul 1, 10 7:09 PM
To be clear, everyone is American Born..... I wsn't aware of E-verify, but our last new hire was 5 years ago. That's how we roll...... I've vacationed at my four Puerto Rican employees homes, in Ponce ( we call that vaca-verify)...
To be even further clear, we compete everyday and win, based on quality, honesty and ethics. Just don't ask me why my locally grown, organic herbs are 25 cents more than the next guy!
By Aspatuck Gardens (30), Westhampton Beach on Jul 1, 10 7:39 PM
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Have a great Fourth of July weekend.

Freedom!
By PBR (4917), Southampton on Jul 1, 10 7:40 PM
It's funny when people who are only second or third generation Americans themselves want to restrict who can legally enter this country.
Rumors that are believable and highly probable are easily spread, thus the rapid propagation of the news of Tom's death. This new rumor about Tom having a job won't go far.. that's too far fetched.
By deelove (149), Bridgehampton on Jul 1, 10 7:58 PM
I'm a 13th + generation, No One here is seeking to dictate who can legally enter this country. The issue is those entering ILLEGALLY and any citizen has a right to weigh in on this no matter what generation they may happen to be.
I respect and admire anyone seeking citizenship through the proper channels. A friend of mine has been doing this for over 7 years, it isn't an easy process and he is married to an American and has a daughter with her.
To "jump the fence" is selfish, illegal and ...more
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 1, 10 8:14 PM
I have play by the rules, and it s 7 years that american homeland security ''the cash cow'' make my american so miserable , they just sucked my money....paying my insane imigration's fee & lawyer...anyway it's just 7 years to realize how you're imigration is so dysfunctionnal...total joke...and why such delays when it's so much unemployed people in the country ....it's a real ''pervertion'' to not allow an emigrant who filled an application to travel....one of my friend couldn't go to burry her ...more
By dlb (21), sag harbor on Jul 1, 10 10:17 PM
First off, Life is not fair, so why would you expect the immigration process to be?

The dysfunction you speak of in immigration is rampant throughout government, so don't act like it is a pointed effort against those legally trying to immigrate.

If it took you 7 years to realize that the system is inefficient, whose fault is that?

I suspect you reading is a weak as you writing, thus explaining your misinterpretation of what I wrote about my friends situation. It has been ...more
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 2, 10 11:56 AM
nothing like a good rumor to get the liberals hair up--just remember the quote of the day "IF YOU'RE 20 YEARS OLD AND NOT A LIBERAL, YOU DON'T HAVE A HEART. IF YOU'RE 30 YEARS OLD AND ARE A LIBERAL, YOU DON'T HAVE A BRAIN"
By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 2, 10 6:48 AM
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By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 5, 10 9:52 PM
What the liberal minded folks here fail to recognize is that the debate is about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION, GET IT, ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION!!! No where in the discussion has anyone decried those who ente our country lawfully. By siding with illegal immigrants you are condoning criminal activity, if you hire one you have committed a crime, if you pay one off the books you have committed another crime, what is so difficult to understand? Those who came here illegally are criminals and should be treated as ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 2, 10 10:23 AM
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the fact is the usa let more legal immigrants in each year then all the other countries in the world combined dlb
to the brain dead twits who think its ok to let people jump our fence,milk our system and commit crimes all around the nation- WAKE THE @#$! UP!!
unemployment is at an all time high-buisnesess continue to fail left and right-our president is a lying moron(just like the last one)-the country is trillions of dollars in debt,there's 2 never ending wars
you bleeding heart liberals ...more
By Kaiser Sozay (31), east end on Jul 2, 10 10:48 AM
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Born In The USA.... to someone Born In The USA.... to someone Born In the USA!

I love being a LEGAL citizen!!!
By ICE (1214), Southhampton on Jul 2, 10 12:22 PM
Dear open borders idiots,
Please read on...

A drug gang leader says he ordered the killing of a U.S. consulate worker because she gave visas to a rival gang in the border city of Ciudad Juarez, federal police said Friday.

Jesus Ernesto Chavez, whose arrest was announced on Friday, leads a band of hit men for a street gang tied to the Juarez cartel, said Ramon Pequeno, the head of anti-narcotics for the Federal Police.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 2, 10 12:30 PM
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By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 5, 10 9:55 PM
"you're" is the contraction for "you are" not "your".. stay home Phil, you won't like the real world
By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 8, 10 11:15 PM
"Going forward", because THAT was THEN, and THIS IS NOW...

My father came here "off the boat", paid taxes, learned to speak English very well, EARNED his Citizenship, built a home, raised two children, put one through college, supported the other through all hardship, including a lightining strike, and a sleep disorder. He paid taxes, and SUPPORTED the system. He never hesitated to work day AND night to put a "roof" over his family's collective heads.

These "illegals" in question ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 2, 10 10:52 PM
Many of you all are blaming the lefties (liberals) for the immigration problem....but it is misplaced. It is business who keeps them here. They are hired by businesses and payed off the books and we pick up the rest......schools, hospitals etc.
Let's make business responsible for this issue....they make enough money from it.

As far as the liberals are concerned, they are humanists who care for people and have little impact on the issue.....lets focus on the landscaping, painting, sheetrock, ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jul 3, 10 9:26 AM
If it weren't for the liberals, I think we may have stronger laws which would be enforced preventing companies from hiring illegals and preventing illegals from entering the US.
You are right about the people who are hiring them....there are also a lot of large companies on LI (and throughout the US) who hire illegally or by knowingly accepting false documentation.
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Jul 3, 10 10:56 AM
i dont blame liberals for the immig problem- i blame them for preventing anything from being done about it
By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 5, 10 10:03 PM
if this country is so full of racists who hate obama, then how did he get elected? if you remember bush tried to build a wall along the border but you liberal pansies crucified him . im not a racist but i'd rather be "correct" than "politically correct". read the article about the rape in flanders.
By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 5, 10 10:09 PM
If they don't utilize cheap labor, they can't rake in the wealth like the interlopers whom they build ostentatious homes for.

These Jones' that the Smiths need to keep up with are most of the problem to begin with. We need to make a process like E-Verify THE LAW.

Last I looked, there are about 50,000 people out of work in Suffolk County. How many people with fake paperwork, or no paperwork at all, are filling those jobs as we post here?
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 3, 10 12:23 PM
Look up (Federal) Form I-9, Employment Eligibility Verification. The form, which has been around since the late 1980s, requires positive identification to prove eligibility to work in the US. It must be completed for each employee hired and kept updated. The problem is that it does not have to be filed anywhere except the employer's desk drawer, where it sits until Homeland Security asks to see it. They never do. We don't need new laws. We just need to enforce the laws we do have. If employers ...more
By SusieD (112), Southampton on Jul 3, 10 1:41 PM
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Whether you agree with Tom Weddells protesting tactics or not. The illegal hiring of illegal immigrants by contractors is a problem. It hurts legitimate businesses who play by the rules. It takes jobs from legal citizens and people who have aquired legal work visa's. The fact that this was a rumor that went viral or not doesn't matter. It is only a matter of time until this starts becoming an actual problem that will happen from allowing the illegal actions to continue.
By jonf1023 (1), Southold on Jul 4, 10 12:09 PM
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By clamdigger (79), Quogue on Jul 5, 10 9:30 AM
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By clamdigger (79), Quogue on Jul 5, 10 9:30 AM
.....and if Mr. Weddells were murdered by gang members,,the gang members would most be protected by the ACLU or some such group and be deemed heroes for crissake!
Once these illegals start taking the white collar jobs MAYBE then our laws will be enforced!
By clamdigger (79), Quogue on Jul 5, 10 9:31 AM
Nonsense. The ACLU supports a radical socialist agenda.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 6, 10 9:03 AM
I'm for defending the constitution. I'm against groups who claim to defend the constitution, but in reality only defend that which promotes a radical socialist agenda.
You see, a mission statement doesn't necessarily mean that you are following through with the actual mission.
You know it, you just won't admit to it.
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 6, 10 11:05 AM
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Go with whatever you want. The actions of the ACLU speaks volumes... not in a good way I might add. You are obviously a supporter or member of the ACLU. So, why exactly do you hate your country?
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 6, 10 2:58 PM
you like to sound so smart but you still can't spell - "you're" = you are, not "your" . "your" is possessive , as in "your head is full of sawdust"
By CaptainSig (708), Dutch Harbor on Jul 8, 10 11:22 PM
Why can't we be honest on the subject of illegal immigration? We have all heard the argument "They do the jobs nobody else will do." Well, there are a few problems with that. First, they broke the law when they entered the country, let's not forget that. It is a crime regardless of motive. Secondly, they are willing to do the work at a lower wage, thus undercutting the existing labor pool. Employers are to be blamed for playing this game as well. Employers who are hiring undocumented labor should ...more
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 6, 10 9:19 AM
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Hey we agree!!!!
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 6, 10 11:13 AM
Yep. Now about that ACLU thing...
By double standard (1506), quogue on Jul 6, 10 2:59 PM
According to a study by Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR)released today, illegal immigration costs 113 billion a year. This is $1,117 for every citizen household. I am sure this does not capture all of the related expenses.
Article:
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/02/immigration-costs-fair-amnesty-educations-costs-reform/
By kelly (75), hampton bays on Jul 6, 10 1:47 PM
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By johnnyhampton (81), Southampton on Jul 6, 10 6:01 PM
Let's see if I have this right. The leftists and most of the Demokrat supporters are OK with criminals breaking the law to get into our country and sucking up resources while the right wants to enforce the law.-----HMMMMMM
By bigfresh (4364), north sea on Jul 7, 10 6:52 AM
One of the other issues with learning to speak English, is that merchandise packaging, amongst other things, have the Spanish version printed on them.

Why would you expect them to learn to speak, when there is such coddling going on?
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 7, 10 1:43 PM
I am for enforcing our immigration laws and support the State of Arizona, but this guy not only protests illegals he is protesting any NON UNION job.
I know for a fact this guy picketed a job even after he was told everyone was a legal tax payer.
UNIONS are part of the Socialist movement in this country - most supported Obama and they were given a pass paying taxes on their "Cadillac" Healthcare plans as a payoff.
UNIONS are now ruining the country they helped build.
By Samzydeco (2), Sag Harbor on Jul 7, 10 9:37 PM
I thought Goldman ran our country?

Aren't they the ones who hijacked our "Democratic" process, to steal about 700 billion dollars to reward their own failure?

As always, I could be wrong...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 8, 10 9:44 PM
It all started with Reagan. After Jimmy Carter's national, televised speech about materialism, greed, and excess, "Corporate America" realized that he wasn't "their boy".

Say all the bad people do about Carter, but one thing he was for, was an honest day's pay, for an honest day's work, no matter WHAT you did for a living.

He would never have looked on "associates" as minimally paid "slave labor", like conditions are currently.

You know what one of the biggest shames ...more
Jul 9, 10 8:13 PM appended by Mr. Z
Socialism: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done That's right, ladies and gentlemen, Socialsim, is not Communism. I for one, am tired of people blatantly throwing around the term "Socialist". If I were middle class these days, I wouldn't believe in unfettered, unregulated Capitalism myself. OH, wait, I am middle class, and screwed over by the "wealthy". "Wealthy", what an ubiquitous, and RELATIVE term...
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 9, 10 8:13 PM
"Distinguished by an unequal distribution of goods, and pay according to work done."

Almost looks like we're already Socialist, eh?
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 9, 10 9:53 PM
Again....Many of you all are blaming the lefties (liberals) for the immigration problem....but it is misplaced. It is business who keeps them here. They are hired by businesses and payed off the books and we pick up the rest......schools, hospitals etc.
Let's make business responsible for this issue....they make enough money from it.
As far as the liberals are concerned, they are humanists who care for people and have little impact on the issue.....lets focus on the landscaping, painting, ...more
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Jul 10, 10 10:59 AM
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I remember this line about "feed the stray, and now it stays".

I so do love Metallica...
Jul 10, 10 11:07 AM appended by Mr. Z
Pardon the tangent above, but, "If it remains unsaid, ain't nobody said so about it.".
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 10, 10 11:07 AM
Main difference is, that he was speaking of U.S. citizens, who are indeed legal residents.

Though seemingly sans compassion, there is some validity to the point. If people cannot afford to breed, they most likely would not. There is a point where charity merely becomes a handout, and persons have no reason to improve themselves, for their basic needs are met. Warranted, some do better themselves due to personal desire, but what percentage is that? Probably mighty low. There are families ...more
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 10, 10 11:54 PM
It's not about "limiting" anyone's ability to have children. The poor are only "undesireable", because our current state of society ALLOWS for it in abundance. Not too recently, Wall St. made most of the country poor again. Cathartically imploding the economy since 1791, and they've become the best at not giving a damn about it, either. On top of that, the subject of the original quote takes home a yearly pay a bit more than DOUBLE the mean income of his constituents. Public servants voting ...more
Jul 11, 10 6:48 PM appended by Mr. Z
Here's a cute story from '08, you'll love it. http://www.tressugar.com/Politicians-Idea-Paying-Poor-Women-1000-Get-Tubes-Tied-2093407
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 11, 10 6:48 PM
Hypothetically, we could pull off deporting that many people, it would just require the state getting off of their collective a$$es.

On a national level, it looks like a huge problem. When you break it down 50 ways, it becomes alot of smaller problems. This country was set up so the states would govern themselves, and that's exactly what they need to do. At serious risk, Arizona has begun an initiative, and the sad part is everyone pulling the race card. It's actually really pathetic, ...more
Jul 12, 10 11:07 PM appended by Mr. Z
12,000,000 / 50 = 240,000
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 12, 10 11:07 PM
And, there's this study from back in 1995:

http://www.pioneerinstitute.org/pdf/pdialg_8.pdf
By Mr. Z (11364), North Sea on Jul 11, 10 6:56 PM
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By beachandbays, hampton bays on Sep 10, 10 12:33 AM