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Oct 28, 2010 11:28 AMPublication: The Southampton Press

EDITORIAL: We Mark Our Ballot

Editor's Note: The following editorial appeared on the Opinion pages in the October 27-28 editions of The East Hampton Press and The Southampton Press Eastern and Western editions.
Oct 28, 2010 11:28 AM

We Mark Our Ballot

At a time when dysfunction rules in both Washington, D.C., and Albany, when anti-incumbent sentiment is strong enough to have spawned a political movement, when merely being in office is considered a political liability—The Press strongly endorses the three incumbents: U.S. Representative Tim Bishop, a Democrat; State Senator Kenneth LaValle, a Republican; and Assemblyman Fred W. Thiele Jr., an Independent.

Here’s why:

Between them the three legislators have more than a half century of experience. Disgruntled voters will tell you that’s the problem. But that knee-jerk reaction ignores a simple fact: at both the state and national levels, experience equals power. Challengers regularly talk about change they will deliver, ignoring the fact that a freshman legislator barely has enough power to be heard, let alone listened to. Fair? Perhaps not—but it’s reality.

Voters should instead focus on dead wood—incumbents who have lost their edge, who are not earning their paychecks. We need thoughtful, energetic, passionate people—and when they lose that passion, that’s when they should get the hook.

Of the three incumbents, only Mr. LaValle appears to be losing some steam at 71. There have been times on the campaign trail where the 34-year veteran has seemed weary of the process. But there have also been flashes of real passion—and there’s no arguing that Mr. LaValle remains deeply committed to his district and responsive on so many issues. His social agenda is more conservative than his district’s, but voters have been willing to overlook that because his commitment has never been an issue.

His Democratic challenger, Jennifer Maertz, has run a commendable campaign. An aide to Regina Calcaterra, she stepped in when residency issues derailed Ms. Calcaterra. Instead of being a place-holder, Ms. Maertz rose to the occasion and has been a lively sparring partner, and has even bested Mr. LaValle at moments in the debates. But ultimately her reach exceeds her grasp: beyond a few fundamental issues, her criticisms have been roundhouse punches, and she struggles to provide alternatives. That’s not surprising for a neophyte; perhaps the seasoning of this campaign will produce a better candidate next time around. For now, Mr. LaValle’s experience and influence make him too valuable to send home.

Republican Richard Blumenthal, challenging Mr. Thiele, is a former educator whose candidacy was built around a criticism of the state’s expansion of the Regents curriculum and the need to provide something other than special education for students who struggle with it. He gets high marks for shining a light on an issue that deserves further discussion. The current system, with so many kids relegated to expensive special ed programs to try to help them keep pace with students headed to college, has the best intentions but is bankrupting some districts.

Still, Mr. Thiele is the easy choice in this race. Even his critics must acknowledge that the incumbent is a hardworking member of the Assembly, never far from any local issue, responsive to town and village officials when they need him, and impossible to shove into a political box. He truly is an independent, so his change in party barely feels like a change at all. Mr. Blumenthal is thoughtful, but he’s no match for the encyclopedic Mr. Thiele, who rarely is stumped and always provides a clear explanation for his positions. Agree with him or not, it’s impossible not to appreciate his energy, and that energy serves his constituents extremely well.

Ms. Maertz and Mr. Blumenthal ran respectable campaigns, and certainly Republican Randy Altschuler is as fundamentally sound a candidate as the party has come up with to challenge Mr. Bishop. He’s smart, polished and articulate, and his business background is a positive in this political climate.

The race between Mr. Altschuler and Mr. Bishop is truly the main event, and its importance cannot be overstated, both at the local and national levels. More important, though, is the impact on the district’s residents—and, in this case, those in the eastern half. There’s reason to believe that Mr. Altschuler is taking the same path as his predecessors, hoping to capture enough votes in the heavily conservative western half of the district to offset the goodwill Mr. Bishop enjoys on the East End. That would explain the cursory nods he’s given the region during the campaign.

Mr. Altschuler has memorized the talking points custom-designed for angry voters in a depressed economy, but his belief that government should stop trying to solve problems and get out of the way of the business community is exactly the thinking that created the crisis in the first place. Since he rules out cuts to Medicare or defense, and offers no viable way to deal with Social Security, his promise of reducing the deficit is meaningless. And at least one of his positions—a belief that climate change is a natural, not man-made, phenomenon—is simply indefensible.

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Tim Bishop represented the district admirably? Oh puhlease. Get in line with the federal media complex. By walking away from the bush tax cuts so he could campaing? is that what you're talking about? that will cost the average suffolk country family $2,600.00 next year. By voting against the majority of his constituency on Obamacare? More dems are running ads against Obamacare than Republicans in the latest surveys. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.

You probably mean he represented ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 28, 10 11:45 AM
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That endorsement of Timmy was the lamest I have ever seen. The independent who endorsed Randy explains their position in a full page complete with facts. The Press has one pathetic paragraph with nothing substantial to explain their position. Whether people agree or disagree at least expalin your position. I thought the paper was better than this. embarassing!
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 11:49 AM
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Such sour grapes, razza. Do you really expect any legitimate news organization to endorse an habitual outsourcer? Buh-bye to Randy and his supporters.

Vote for TIM!
By fcmcmann (417), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 11:57 AM
Not sour grapes at all. Of course I disagree with a Bishop endorsement as you would disagree with a Randy endorsement.. My point is the endorsement was pathetic. It lacked substance.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 12:28 PM
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Apparently, your reading comprehension skills require some polishing.

Sorry I'm late to the party, folks!

The first paragraph DEFINED the Press' feelings regarding incumbents. From not only a journalistic standpoint, but a from a literary standpoint, the Press has stood it's ground.

Now is NOT the time to stray from experience. People have the ability to change, that much is certain. People are also AFRAID of change, on a whole, that much is certain as well.

I ...more
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 9:35 PM
Welcome back, Templar. I see you're still up to your usual standard of exceptionally clever material -- "Dimmy Bishop," very funny! Keep up the good work, Templar.
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 28, 10 10:16 PM
Perahps razza should take a cue from fellow teapartier Christine O'Donnell and sue the press for printing something with which he does not agree.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 12:01 PM
The endorsement was 2 sentences with zero facts to back anything up
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 12:36 PM
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This wil probably get deleted, but I have to say it:

J*****S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oct 28, 10 9:49 PM appended by Mr. Z
And, that was a reply to the statement DIRECTLY above mine.
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 9:49 PM
You are real class act.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:06 PM
There is no single word in the English language, which has such a gratifying sensation in the Solar Plexus, except when it is truly deserved by the party in question.
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:57 PM
Ken Lavalle

Third Party candidate - Don't care for Thilele or Blumenthal

Tim Bishop
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 12:09 PM
Wrap your left right Idiologies around that! And yes I meant to spell it as Idiology
By ICE (1214), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 12:11 PM
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Hahahahahaahahaahahaahahaahaha

Ur paper is a joke. U don't even back up how Tim Bishop has represented his district "admirably." And this was the editor writing this Op-ed. Journalism 101.

My guess is that any candidate for Congress with a (d) next to their name gets ur nod.
By HB 4 Life (72), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 1:18 PM
Another ill informed genius, who buys from ACME.

It's sad how reading comprehension has fallen by the wayside...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 9:54 PM
The REAL bigotry of the teaparty as defined by its founder:

"Judson Phillips, founder of the Tea Party Nation, fortified a recent email encouraging Minnesotans in the 5th Congressional District to vote Rep. Keith Ellison (D) out -- in part because he's a Muslim -- by stating that he, as well as most Tea Party members, had serious qualms with Islam.

"A majority of Tea Party members, I suspect, are not fans of Islam," Phillips said in an interview with the Daily Caller. "I, personally ...more
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 1:38 PM
those who have qualms with islam are guilty of nothing else but being conscious my friend.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Oct 28, 10 1:42 PM
what is unconscious about the Tea Party?
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 1:50 PM
Thank you but liberal media spins things the way they want. There are so many things that were swept under the carpet by the media....The new black panthers for instance...
What do you do with a President who denies the majority of his constituents and pushes his own agenda?
I believe in justice
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 2:32 PM
You mean nothing but bigoted zealots, of course, because what you are doing is saying you have a problem with every single person that practices a certain religion.

There are 1.5 billion Muslims in the world which is about 22% of the world's population. So you have a problem with 1.5 billion of your fellow humans and therefore you are, by your own admission, a bigot.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 2:34 PM
Wow! This is a prime example of the Liberal though.
Where did the Muslim thing come from?
You want to put me in a category.
I have absolutely no problem with a person's religion or spirituality!
I do not have a problem with Muslims..I dated a Muslim...I dated a Jew...
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 2:56 PM
Oh, I see, the reference to the New Black Panthers...
Voter intimidation is wrong and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent...on both sides...somehow this guy was given a "get out of jail free" card. And the case was squashed..
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:03 PM
Excuse me, htmpnlocal, but before you go completely crazy, my posting was obviously in response to dylan32, not you.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 3:08 PM
ok
but why do you have to be insulting? Your nature I guess...
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:09 PM
By they way, the "new black panthers" exists of about 8 people and those voter intimidation charges were completely disproved and dismissed by the justice department some time ago.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 3:11 PM
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peoplefirst
maybe you should be careful not to get your panties in a bunch....
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:12 PM
It's not insulting to say there is something wrong with 22% of the world's population? What about your "pime example of a liberal" insult when I was not even referring to you? Give me a break, huh?
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 3:13 PM
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By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:15 PM
Yeah right..
look for black panthers on youtube.
The problem I have is that is was disproved and dismissed...
garbage
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:17 PM
I was reading your comment. Whether it was directed at me or not, I stand by my comments.
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:21 PM
Again, voter intimidation should not be tolerated.
The problem I have is that they were disproved and dismissed. This was done by the DOJ. It is one of the reasons I am so disgusted with Obama...one of the many...
pull it up on youtube.
I am an independent. I was happy Obama won...boy have I done a 360
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:26 PM
I thought you were...based on your comment I responded.
I kind of do have a problem with people who don't see that there is something incredibly wrong with this govt...on so many levels...
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:30 PM
2 men in black with billyclubs...
yeah intimidating to the maX
I lived in Montclair NJ for a couple of years. One Thanksgiving i wrote a check for the local soup kitchen. I went to drop it off and I was greeted with such hostility. Men with bowties...maybe I was naive...
I have never judged a person
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 4:06 PM
Listen to hmptnlocal, folks! She is a true teaparty patriot who knows that if you see more than one black man standing outside a voting place, they are definitely there to try to scare you away - or maybe even kill you! So what if it happened in a black district where 98% of the voters voted Obama? They were black and they were congregating. Nuff said. Don't even get us started on how bad them Muslims are, right hmptnlcl?!

As you can see, she never judged a person and she learned her ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 4:38 PM
Why are you so angry?
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:01 PM
You've done a 360? Let me guess, math wasn't your favorite subject.
By TruthInNumbness (2), WHB on Oct 28, 10 5:01 PM
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Anger issues..
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:07 PM
You are right...it wasn't
180?
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:13 PM
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By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:41 PM
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By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:43 PM
HOW DARE YOU?
am now persecuted for trying to help my neighbor..regardless of color or religion or state of birth.
I was trying...have you? Have you made an honest attempt to help your fellow human being? Dont give me this load of crap about being black or muslem or God knows what else
I think your momma dropped you on your head...


By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:52 PM
Have you ever tried to help someone?
I was trying and I am insulted for it.
How dare you! Do you know how many people go through live and not try to help their fellow man? I found myself fortunate that year and needed to give back...
I could have gone to a Catholic Church...I decided where I thought the money would be best served.
I
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:59 PM
After reading this section of the thread, we have further to go as a race (Human) than I previously thought...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 9:56 PM
Yes! the liberal media does it all! It's so clear!
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 28, 10 10:03 PM
you attack me, and you will be judged by me.
The president of the United States of America has apologized to foreign nations and blames anyone he can for his short comings.
It is sad but he is not competent....
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 10:10 PM
Thank you! I thought so too!
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 10:25 PM
who cares what the paper says...vote your own choice on Tuesday and live with it!
By uncleronk (136), southold on Oct 28, 10 2:31 PM
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The same contributors keep saying the same thing! Anyone who follows this forum knows their political position at this point! It is like beating a dead horse! Everyone is entitled to their opinion---but enough is enough!
By Mrs.Sea (264), Sag Harbor on Oct 28, 10 3:03 PM
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If you don't like what others have to say then don't read the comments or visit the boards.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 3:09 PM
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And George W. Bush (I mean Dick Cheney, why do I keep doing that?) was a great president. Forget the tea party, sounds more like the LSD party. Boy do you people have short memories.
By realdeal (23), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 3:10 PM
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I have no problem with what is said--that is what this forum is all about. Some contributors just rant on and on and say the same thing over and over. That is my point.
By Mrs.Sea (264), Sag Harbor on Oct 28, 10 3:44 PM
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As long as it's "broke", why cease speaking of it?

Our "system" is fundamentally broken.

That much is certain...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 9:58 PM
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where can I get streamers, noise makers and confetti?
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 3:46 PM
we need a party! Election day is going to be like the 4th of July...
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 3:49 PM
What a disappointment that the bulk of comments you have received so far are negative, reflecting an abysmal understanding of the issues involved much less of the three candidates you are happily and wisely endorsing.
Let's hope the voters on the East End have the plain common sense to follow your recommendations on Tuesday!
By Wilhelmus Bryan (4), Quogue on Oct 28, 10 3:53 PM
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oh yes, only an abysmal understanding of the issues involved can explain the fact that we think your boy is an inside the beltway hack who long ago jumped the shark in terms of being a representative of the majority of his constituents.

it couldn't possibly be that we know, very intricately, the issues involved and are summarily rejecting them en toto.

as we've told your pals, rejection at this level is very difficult. if out of mental self preservation, you feel the need to puff ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 28, 10 4:04 PM
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I cannot understand why people think Obama is such a great speaker....I feel like he is talking to us like children who need to be reprimanded or cannot do for themselves.....I am a voter not a child! Obama does what he wants ...no consideration for how his constituents feel....
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 4:20 PM
Yeah, I want a president like W who was as dumb as the average voter and spoke to us using words we understand! Obama thinks he's all that with his vocabulary and his "intelligence"! Hah! Who needs it? Look at sister Sarah, she thought Africa was a country, but at least she knows how to talk down to us while still staying right at our level.

Keep on baggin' and remember, if a candidate seems qualified, don' t vote for him!
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 4:32 PM
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it does help that Obama uses a TelePrompter
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 4:57 PM
why are you so angry towards me?
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:00 PM
hampn local. Dont take it personal. The people with the dissent is Patriotic bumper stickers really HATE people that don't agree with their agenda
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:12 PM
I never though that American English would be tough for someone to comprehend
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 4:56 PM
The liberal media's answer is blame and anger.
Tough shit...Obama, the socialist dictator, will be shut down
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 5:16 PM
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hmptnlocal, Excellent use of talking points, really! I am still trying to get them down but you are a great example to learn from! You even managed to get "socialist" and "dictator" in the same sentence AND attack the liberal media (although I always wondered how does FOX fit into that label)

Listen to her, folks. She is a true patriot who knows the difference between a real American and a liberal, socialist, maoist, agitator (how as that?!) Keep on baggin', local - you've gotta meet ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 5:51 PM
Another eductated mind, who know what "Socialism", and the "free market" actually is.

WOW, do we have a long way to go...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:01 PM
hmptnlocal, you are not only entitled to your opinions, but they are chock full of logic and sincerety. what happens when you express an opinion that is different than the alleged wiser, kinder and gentler razza5351 and his frothing cohorts you are immediately accused of bigotry and stupidity. don't fret, they are not only outnumbered here, but there is absolutely no contest when it comes to the side that has presented logic and heartfelt opinions backed politely by reality v. the wild rewriting ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 28, 10 5:51 PM
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Yeah, so we're dumb and bigoted? At least we're not communists! MackT, why you hating on me, dude, I am you. We gotta stick together, my teabagging compatriot! Love ya, bro!
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 5:53 PM
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There is a difference, between "re-writing" History, and ever even having learned it in the firstplace.

Propaganda shoved into your head, IS NOT History, mackt.

And this comes from someone who has not only studied the last 5,000 years of Human History, as well as economic structure, but has studied "daily life" from the Sumerians, Phonecians, Greeks, Romans, Jews, Christians, Mongols, Huns, Anglos, Saxons, Celts, well, do you "get the picture" yet of who in the H-E- double hockey ...more
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:07 PM
Hampton local these type of people are refective of hard core Bishop supporters.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:13 PM
oh please....
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 10:15 PM
Pardon me, but I forgot the Egyptians...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 11:00 PM
No surprise !
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 5:54 PM
Who cares who the Press endorses. 5 more days just 5 more days.
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 5:57 PM
I love your book cover thumbnails. Why not just put up a noose or a KKK hat?
By littleplains (305), olde england on Oct 28, 10 10:01 PM
joe, no matter how "misguided", is a wise man who appreciates the value of silence from his years.

He has said all he needs to say, and will leave the rest of us to "duke it out", as we will.

We may not always agree, but there is a some common ground, and he has earned some degree of my respect. I was raised to believe that without R-E-S-P-E-C-T, you are nothing.

Maybe that's why I'm a damn good "Centrist".
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:13 PM
can i let you in on a secret razza5351? i tried the same thing last year. i was being all sarcastic but opposite from you, obviously...and trying to make my point that way. it was exhausting and finally i gave up and just dealt straight on with stuff. it would be totally fine with everyone..i would guess, if you wanted to scrap the whole facade and just ''converse". its cool if we disagree, I'm o.k. about you voting for Bishop and I am somewhat sure he is going to win, but we're doing everything ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 28, 10 5:59 PM
I am not being sarcastic, my teaparty compatriot! I don't understand why you don't get it. What have I said that my fellow baggers have not? NOTHING! I've got no point to make beyond a teaparty patriot platform that is near and dear to my heart and yours: get the government out of our lives, make abortion illegal and erase the separation of church and state, abolish that Obamacare plan that actually forces private, free-market insurance companies to cover sick people, arrest people that look ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 28, 10 9:31 PM
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You don't have to be a "tea bagger" to dislike Obama. You continue to put everyone in a category....
I
By hmptnlocal (47), Hampton Bays on Oct 28, 10 10:22 PM
Well, after arriving to the party late, and reading the caustic, ill-informed vitriolic nonsense, I feel I may now have consumption.

As I said above, and I have always agreed: "Pride bears two seeds. Life, and Death".

The question is, will you barrage Tim's office with electronic mail after you elect him, or will you put your faith in a freshman who seeks to use you?

Is this guy Altschuler some type of RFK?

I don't think so...
Oct 28, 10 9:42 PM appended by Mr. Z
This is the same guy, who is "Pro-Life", and has NO idea what the Hyde Amendment is. That should tell you something...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 9:42 PM
You see why it wont work mackt. I have tried to chill things out in the past, but they hate America so much they cant control the way they feel. They hate our heritage and the fact that we are a republic, because they despise the 10Th amendment. The hate the constitution and the pledge of allegiance, because they do not want to believe in God.If they believed in god then they would have to feel for the baby's they murder with no conscience.They hate winners and personal responsibility.They want ...more
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:14 PM
joe, the only people who benefit from poverty, are the wealthy.

Ask the IMF, and the World Bank how well that works.

The Tenth Amendment is only a reinforcement of the principles of the Consitution. That was decided in the Sprague case. It is mere duplicity.

We have gone from a "limitless frontier", to a world of closed borders in a mere historical instant.

The Imperialistic version of Capitalism that "America" has given the world takes natural selection, and ...more
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:37 PM
joe hampton is right! Those commie, maoists on the left HATE America! It is clear as the oil stain on Dick Cheney's forehead! They want to regulate oil companies, make mines safe for workers, create clean energy jobs, stop bigotry, and prevent banks from doing as they please - and they are actually proud of it! Mackt and joe hampton, our republic cannot be allowed to remain in the hands of women who want to choose and loonies who want clean drinking water!

We need to get government ...more
By razza5351 (551), East Hampton on Oct 29, 10 8:12 AM
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ahh 5351 I may be dating myself but you remind me of the Star Trek episode where the characters meet their alter egos. You of course are the Evil spock.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 29, 10 11:14 AM
Ok Z so your in a good tonight I see. I suppose you have earned some degree of respect from me as well....At least till you called me an "Idiot" last week. LOL
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:32 PM
Well, don't assume so much about my character in a general statement.

I'm a responsible, hard working young man, who just can't seem to make it no matter how much time he puts in for himself, or for others.

I have serious doubts about how the "measure of a man" is defined in this society.
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:39 PM
I am hardly the xenophobic Propaganda Minister you paint me to be Phil.
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:36 PM
We can do better.

Maybe is a bit farfetched, but it's a big galaxy, and I'd like to live long enough to see us find other "intelligent" life.

That's my long term point of view. We could be part of something so much bigger, but not at the rate we're going.
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 11:07 PM
Your posts prove otherwise, joe hampton
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 9:55 AM
Here's a question for the group: Does Joe Hampton really mean all this stuff he posts, or is he just a less adept Steven Colbert wannabe like razza5351? (That's a compliment, 51.) Joe's material is so over the top that it makes me wonder.
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 28, 10 10:40 PM
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I guess I should comment on the editorial, too, since, unlike everybody and his dog, I haven't done that yet. Here goes --- YESSS!!! Tim will win, folks, but only if we all get out there and vote.
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 28, 10 10:44 PM
Maybe it has gone off the rails in here at times so I offer up an armistice for tonight. Since I do not want to be confused with Steven Colbert by any means. Goodnight my friends.
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 28, 10 10:45 PM
Goodnight, Joe.
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 10:48 PM
“We cannot solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them.”

~Albert Einstein
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 28, 10 11:23 PM
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By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 29, 10 3:59 AM
"Beyond that frontier are uncharted areas of science and space, unsolved problems of peace and war, unconquered problems of ignorance and prejudice, unanswered questions of poverty and surplus. It would be easier to shrink from that new frontier, to look to the safe mediocrity of the past, to be lulled by good intentions and high rhetoric..."
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 29, 10 4:11 AM
"Have we the nerve and the will? Can we carry through in an age where we will witness not only new breakthroughs in weapons of destruction, but also a race for mastery of the sky and the rain, the ocean and the tides, the far side of space, and the inside of men's minds?"

"That is the question of the New Frontier".

Oct 29, 10 4:01 AM appended by Mr. Z
If we open a quarrel between the present and the past, we shall be in danger of losing the future.
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 29, 10 4:01 AM
ok, i'm you. i can deal with that. bro. hahahaha. i'll stretch and get ready for another day of fun twisting you up and toying with you. i just got off the phone with tim bishop's office, they affirmed the volcano story...hahahaha,

let's see what we have since i retired for the evening. mr. z, was on el rolo last night. frontiers, egypt, jfk...he's like the lefty glenn beck!

whoa whoa....and MR. Z HAS HIT 1000 ridiculous comments! ding, ding, ding, ding.

that's ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 29, 10 6:40 AM
The "New Frontier", was JFK's acceptance speech for his party's nomination in 1960.

It'a amazing, and at the same time disconcerting how relevant the fabric of his speech still is.

If you weren't simply a student of propaganda, you might know that...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 30, 10 11:03 PM
in a discovery that many of us already knew, scientists from harvard and san diego state university have discovered an actual liberal gene. this confirms that indeed, liberalism is a mental disorder. to date, no other dna indicators have been identified for any other political ailment. its 6:49am, do you know where your koran is?
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 29, 10 6:52 AM
They must have tested that on those mice with human brains? By the way, have you heard about that teabagging gene that causes your brain to dedicate over 98% of its capacity to bigotry and talking points? The other 2% is for breathing.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 9:51 AM
no sir, its actually real. here, in the science daily from this week.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/10/101027161452.htm

By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 9:35 AM
Small time publications really do not need to be making any 'endorsements'. Thats a good way to lose readership.

Bad move.
By joegti10 (8), East Moriches on Oct 29, 10 9:37 AM
It is not a bad move to have the courage of your convictions.
By progressnow (556), sag harbor on Oct 29, 10 9:48 AM
Wow! Bill Clinton tried to persuade Florida Democratic Rep. Kendrick Meek to drop out of his U.S. Senate race and support Gov. Charlie Crist's independent candidacy in hopes of thwarting a victory by Republican Marco Rubio.Seems a bit desperate if not illegal
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 29, 10 10:03 AM
Last night you're contrite, today you come back with the same nonsense. You must be very proud of yourself for being able to exchange your racist book cover avatars so often.
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 1:15 PM
hey people, before you accuse me of repeating talking points (didn't get the memo talking points were bad) - you are a factory ms. first....hahahahaha. sweatin' to the oldies yet?

here is #354 from you
"Hey, DJ, hate to get involved in someone else's argument, but the stimulus save and created nearly 2 million jobs. Yes, unemployment went up, but it could have gotten much worse. Under Bush we were losing tens of thousands of jobs a month and that accounted for the increase and Obama ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 10:23 AM
jeeze this is too easy mr. first

#588 "The Obama administration cut banks out of the student loan process where they serves as nothing more than middle men taking billions of dollars in fees that should have gone to students. FACT
No one is being "forced" to purchase insurance. In fact, if you had bothered to study the bill you would see that there are actually NO penalties for remaining uninsured. FACT
There are not fines. If you do not purchase you will not be eligible for tax ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 10:27 AM
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I stand by every factual assertion I've made, especially the two you've quoted. By the way, thanks for allowing me to be heard twice on those topics!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 1:18 PM
I think we should thank our friend yessiree for giving further exposure to the many sound thoughts of peoplefirst. If yessiree suggests that there's nothing wrong with talking points, (which he does, and should), then he's not undermining the position of peoplefirst by repeating the man's posts, he's advancing it. Once again, thanks, yessirree. Read em, folks, they're all good.
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 29, 10 11:05 AM
You can't let go of it, can you? You lost that one back there. Take your lumps and move on.
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 31, 10 7:51 PM
quick question, how should we explain that the nation's first real black president stabbed his bro, mr. meeks, in the back? we have the first black president who is a democrat, taking out a fellow brother so that a rich whitey ex republican can have a better chance?

oh, and i saw a lot of bishop signs all over long island today. except they all had the word ''dump'' in front of ''bishop''. hahahahaha.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 12:49 PM
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phil, genius, you are quoting a made up thing called the right wing scale and then highlighting how right wingers score high on a made up thing called the right wing scale?

hey in another study, mr. z has discovered he is an amazingly fantastic centrist. not only that but turkey bridge has discovered that he is in fact, significantly more turkey than bridge.

meyer and emerick...c'mon that is such lunacy...hahahaha. ooooh, it must be real, those sound like smart names...and with ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 12:57 PM
just heard a bishop ad on wlng. am pretty sure the soundtrack was from the movie "Friday the 13th" and i heard the word india, outsourcing and new jersey.

but funny, nothing about obamacare, the failed stimulus votes, 125 votes in favor of increasing your taxes

nothing about the new 3.8% tax on the sale of your home that tim made sure was in the obamacare bill he loved.

there was nothing mentioned about the $2,600 dollars the average suffolk family will pay in 2011 because ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 1:05 PM
Bishop got the VFW endorsement!!!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 1:09 PM
Although Tim looks like a definite shoe-in, leave nothing to chance. Vote Bishop and send Randy Outsourcer back to Jersey!
By peoplefirst (787), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 1:20 PM
quck question, when maher and olbermann state unequivocally that americans are dumb like dumb dogs...are they just talking about all americans or just the americans that are tuning in at that moment to receipt the uplifting message?

now believe me, tim bishop would attest to that very sentiment. in fact, he has stated numerous times that government will be the answer to the problems we face. that mere american citizens and their ingenuity, cleverness and skills just are not enough.

i ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 29, 10 2:13 PM
hopefully they will all vote on Nov 3rd
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 29, 10 2:47 PM
Tim Bishops endorsements:
The VFW
The Suffolk County Police Conference (That is all the cops)

Vote Bishop....Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 29, 10 8:51 PM
Newspaper endorsements are prized because they represent a judgment that is informed by data uncovered by investigative journalists on the newspapers' payrolls.

However, when a newspaper employs NO investigative journalists and does nothing more than post "news" items that are phoned in, it should refrain from making endorsements entirely.

To do so is to mislead readers by implying that the editorial opinion possesses any more gravitas than that of the guy sitting next to one ...more
By highhatsize (3605), East Quogue on Oct 29, 10 10:20 PM
4 more.............Developing
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 30, 10 1:39 AM
hey george, it you are going to write a letter to the paper, you should refrain from repeating everything you say here, because we now know who you are....quiogue...hahahaha.

you can come up with 10 million unclever ways to accuse your opponents of being stupid. but the fact of the matter is, the country has rejected your ideas. that doesn't mean the entire country is stupid, that means you are actually on the fringe of the country which you call home. that means you are a radical and ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 7:27 AM
Friendly Reminder:

Endorsements for Altschuler - when running against the homeboy:

Superior Officers Association Retired (SOAR) of the City of New York Police Department. SOAR represents the interests of several thousand former detectives and superior officers of the NYPD, many of whom reside in the 1st Congressional District.

The National Federation of Independent Business is the leading small business association representing small and independent businesses. A nonprofit, ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 7:36 AM
we are going to make sure that no black panther party members will be anywhere near polling places, we are making sure the SEIU technicians are nowhere near the polling places as the new voting mechanism/process will render Tim's favorite union more useless than they already are. stay tuned for the location of the altschuler victory party. it is is close, there is an expectation that bishop will not only refuse to concede, but he will hold up the process with protests, recounts and unfounded allegations ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 30, 10 7:45 AM
Just let those thugs try
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 30, 10 11:08 AM
the accomplishments you listed for timmy are fixes to mistakes he already made - which create even more problems! jeeezus!

the 250 kick back to seniors it because he voted for the biggest unfunded entitlement on the planet, the medicare drug card. yes, it was bush, big mistake by all of them. so the drug card is awful and includes loads of out of pocket for seniors.

go find a single, solitary college student that is happy about how much they are spending on college tuition and ...more
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Oct 30, 10 7:52 AM
phil, if it is possible to sum up your argument as thus:
republicans caused the problems, democrats try to fix them.

would you agree that this an overly simplistic, an obviously false assessment of a very complex and dynamic landscape of issues?

can we at least start today with you being intellectually honest here?
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 8:29 AM
I am proud that the Congressman has the support of the VFW!!!!
After all of the distorted truth and lies from the right-wing-nuts the veterans know the truth.
Vote Bishop....Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 30, 10 9:06 AM
Siena was kind enough to answer my email. They will not be polling District 1 again and they know of no polling organization that will.
By highhatsize (3605), East Quogue on Oct 30, 10 9:37 AM
3 more days
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 30, 10 11:10 AM
Bishop and Thiele.

Anyone who votes for Randy Outsourcing (who BTW bragged about this move!) should move to India and apply for a job at, what, ten cents per hour?
By PBR (4869), Southampton on Oct 30, 10 12:23 PM
yeah, and if you own a computer, software, drive an automobile or stay at hotels, you may "want to move to india and apply for a job at what ten cents per hour?"
because the suppliers of those goods and services see the economy as a global one and ''outsource'' as you refer to it. because there is one world, there is no longer any such thing as outsourcing. there are just long distance partnerships. now that is progressive!
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 12:59 PM
and its racist to continually bash india as though there were something wrong with the country or its people. they are a very proud and smart culture. where is your decency.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 1:20 PM
waaaaaahhhh, a mcdonalds is telling its employees how to vote. give me a break. you've got every learning institution, every channel on television except 1, all of fm radio, most of am radio, hollywood, the music industry and most of popular culture, oh, and the mad hungarian and you are whining about a mcdonald's in ohio!? typical liberal.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 3:39 PM
But it is ok for harry Reid to promote votes with coffee, food and beer ??????
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 30, 10 6:08 PM
Over 35 counties in Illinois missed the deadline to mail military ballots to our soldiers defending America. But in Chicago, county election officials have taken special steps to ensure that no inmates at the Cook County Jail are unable to cast a ballot.

The Chicago Board of Elections hand delivers ballots to the jail. They don’t even wait for the inmates to apply – they bring the applications with the ballots! Over 2,600 inmates have cast ballots so far – strikingly similiar ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 7:40 PM
and all they did was suggest some candidates that would be good for the owner of the business, he told the folks they could vote for whomever they wanted and they would be voting in private. from the daily kos to the huff po to phil to 27 east but the buck stops with mackt!

and you know you love a little burger snack from the golden arches every once in a while. don't hate.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 30, 10 7:43 PM
Hey....Right Wing Guys!
Tim Bishop got the Veterans of Foriegn Wars (VFW) endorsement!
Any comment?
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 30, 10 10:54 PM
Bishop received an "A" on the Drum Major Institute's 2008 Congressional Scorecard on Middle Class Values on middle-class issues.
Bishop gave leadership to the bipartisan coalition of elected officials and community advocates that saved the 106th Air Rescue Wing located at Gabreski Airport from being shut down by the Pentagon’s base closure commission. He also successfully led the opposition to a plan that would have dumped more than twenty million cubic yards of contaminated dredge waste ...more
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 30, 10 11:30 PM
Got to hand it to you shnative. Every veteren I speak to plans on voting for bishop. In fact when polled all veterens and people serving in the military prefer a tax and spend liberal.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 7:58 AM
Our task is not merely one of itemizing Republican failures. Nor is that wholly necessary. For the families forced from the farm do not need to tell us of their plight. The unemployed miners and textile workers know that the decision is before them in November. The old people without medical care, the families without a decent home, the parents of children without a decent school: They all know that it's time for a change.

~John F. Kennedy, 1960 Democratic Nat'l Convention Acceptance Speech
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 30, 10 11:15 PM
this new format is very annoying but like everything else these days ?I guess its about selling more ads and interactive horse s__t
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Oct 31, 10 1:28 AM
Press, please correct the note you insert when you remove a comment. The spelling of the word you want to use when a comment is not suitable or not proper is inappropriate, not innapropriate.
By SusieD (109), Southampton on Oct 31, 10 2:35 AM
''to increase college affordability"? holy mackeral, you dolts will say anything. can you please find me an affordable college please in new york state please...name 1. and hillary saved gabreski.

and no, voter intimidation is absolutely fine. it has been sanctioned by our own government. if you hadn't noticed, they dropped the philly new black panther party case. so you suckas, you can't have it both ways....

black panther party voter intimidation with billy clubs at a polling ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 31, 10 6:30 AM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 31, 10 6:50 AM
Try googling acorn crimes. They have been accused of massive voter registration fraud and unlike the mcdonald situation,, they are backed by monies from the democrats. The acorn situation can not even compare to one disenchanted franchise owner of a mcdonalds
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 8:39 AM
Acorn staffers were bribing people with cigerettes. Employees were caught on tape telling people how to scam the system. The organization is funded by the democrats who for the next two days have all the power in this country. If the shoe was on the other foot you'd be screaming bloody murder. The mcdonalds situation as not gone to court so based on your acorn logic you can't pass judgement. I'm sorry but this evil fiscal conservative needs to take his family to church and drop off food for the ...more
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 9:35 AM
Yes show me the conviction. Has mcdonalds been convicted. One question for you. Do you know what a franchise operations even is? If you do know then who should YOU be accusing? Have a nice day and dump bishop
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 12:46 PM
Lol. I'm sure Randy would love to see that. You don't have a clue about franchising do you? You seem to have mysteriously dropped the issue once you found out some big evil corporation wasn't behind it.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 8:34 PM
AGAIN....
"Hey....Right Wing Guys!"
Tim Bishop got the Veterans of Foriegn Wars (VFW) endorsement!
Any comment?
Yea.......I thought so!
VOTE BISHOP....VOTE LOCAL!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 31, 10 9:18 AM
Your right SH native. That's great news for bishop supporters. Now Every veteren and ever enlisted person in this district will go out and follow that endorsement by going out and vote for Timmy. You must be so happy
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 12:51 PM
You are so dim witted that you don't even comprehend sarcasm
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Oct 31, 10 7:40 PM
phyllis, the right is going to be taking control of the country in two days, don't forget to mention that along with the fact that "the right doesn't think a donation in recognition of the sacrifices and contributions of our veterans is a worthy cause". did i get that right...no wonder you're so upset, i would be upset if i knew of anyone who fit the template of the formula you put forth every day and night. nice try on us being all desperate and screechy. it's in the bag, we're just having fun ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 31, 10 2:36 PM
here you bogus posters. you can see that there is GRAVE CONCERN over the VFW PAC endorsements this year. They are in direct conflict with the vets and they are none too happy about it. here is their statement.

it is dispicable that bishop would misrepresent the veterans in such a way and THIS is why everybody within reading distance of this site needs to pay attention. it is all smoke and mirrors with this chump. nobody on the planet would really cared about the vets would ever pull ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 31, 10 2:40 PM
re-read this statement http://www.vfw.org/News-and-Events/Articles/Statement-from-VFW-National-Commander-on-the-PAC-situation/

and then come back and tell me that bishop's endorsement was valid and real. if you are able to do that. it would be impossible for me to even respond to you as it would completely destroy any shred of ''board cred'' you have.
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 31, 10 4:07 PM
Read the letter, dated the 15th of October.

The only relevance I could find regarding the endorsement rescindment regarding a particular politician, was Sanford Bishop, who is running in a upstate district.

Oh well...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Oct 31, 10 7:48 PM
Elect George Papoon! Papoon for President!
By Born Here (26), HB on Oct 31, 10 4:25 PM
A man asked me today, how can it be a close election when Tim Bishop is our local guy who's worked for us all along, and the other guy just got here with a pile of money he made taking people's jobs away? I told him he was right, but sometimes local races are decided by the national climate, which right now is not overly friendly to Dems or incumbents. That's why all of Tim Bishop's supporters need to get out and vote on Tuesday November 2. If that happens, Tim will win.
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 31, 10 7:56 PM
So the solution is to ship 10,000 American jobs over to India? Tell that to the guy without a job. So the solution is to trash Social Security by privatizing it and trash Medicare by voucherizing it? Tell that to the senior on a budget. So the solution is to repeal health care reform? Tell that to the woman with a pre-existing condition. So the solution is to bring back the policies of George W. Bush that got us into this hole? Tell that to anyone. With Randy's solutions, we'll go straight ...more
By Turkey Bridge (1849), Quiogue on Oct 31, 10 9:55 PM
we'll take it from here phyllis. don't worry, you'll benefit from the good decisions the adults make when they get back into power on tuesday. too bad it didn't go well for you. perhaps in the next generation people will forget what the heck happened when there was a hiccup and someone obama became president with a super majority and took us to the precipice of destruction. that was close, but it'll be a loooooooong time until folks forget this experiment gone awry.

see you on the ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Oct 31, 10 9:49 PM
Yea, and we saw how well the Republicans ran government for the first eight years of the decade.....what a disaster!
Tim Bishop and the Congress saved the country from another Great Depression.
Vote Local.....Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 31, 10 9:54 PM
. "Good. I can feel your anger. I am defenseless. Take your weapon! Strike me down with all your hatred, and your journey towards the dark side will be complete." (George Soros Return of the Jedi)

By They call me (2370), southampton on Nov 1, 10 12:26 PM
Oh yea...Captian Crunch....
did you tell that lady that your candidate just moved to the district and that he made millions of dollars from a business that ships good American Jobs out of the country? I bet not....you just more of the Right-Wing-Nut propaganda of distrotions to suit your own partisan cause.
How could you support such an Un-American individual as Altschuler?
Vote Local......Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Oct 31, 10 9:59 PM
i would follow phil's advice and not waste your time. wise move.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 7:00 AM
yaaa baby the ends justify the means get out their and vote early and often talk to your friends tell them you will buy them cigs or lunch like phila says dont waste time.If you dont vote for Mr Obama we will never get ours and be in another great depresion.Dont let this tea baggers win. Yes we can!!!!
By local 84 (322), riverhead on Nov 1, 10 11:29 AM
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Yes...those domestic jobs were created to send 10,000 good American jobs to India a,d make millions of dollars for Randy Outsourcer. Did you tell her that he just moved here and is trying to buy our congressional seat.
You are using the GOP talking points, preying on the fears of your neighbors.
Tim Bishop and Congress saved the car industry in the US. GM is paying the money back and Tim Bishop saved hundred of thousands of jobs across the country.
VOTE BISHOP.....VOTE LOCAL!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 8:20 AM
you could say whatever you like today. when you turn on a computer and the headline is "House Loss Could Propel Pelosi Into Retirement". That says it all.

Big day tomorrow. Big day.

Checking out, my work here is done. Looking for ways to supress liberal turnout, further the good fortune of evil multinational corporations, take advantage of non white people and favor the rich. hahahahahaha.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 9:15 AM
The people will speak tommorrow. Hoping for a big turnaround in the house and some pleasant surprises in the senate races.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Nov 1, 10 9:17 AM
Less than 20 hours to go and the referendum on obama begins in what Gallup is saying is the largest case of buyers remorse they have ever tracked in a midterm!
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 1, 10 10:44 AM
I feel good today. The last 2 years have been very hard to watch. I am glad the majority of my fellow Americans have woke up.This guy together with big labor was going to bring this country to its knees.The left wing radicals want you to believe its about race.
It is not. It is about personal responsibility and small government.
Its about the personal freedoms this Republic was founded on, Life, Liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness.Gods speed to us all!
By 27dan (2365), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 11:06 AM
For the next 30 hours I will be part of a watch dog group at the polls to make sure when they "mark thier ballot"
They are who they say they are and they mark that ballot its one time only!
Yes I do feel good today.
Maybe one day, just maybe we can be that shining country on the hill again.
By 27dan (2365), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 11:08 AM
The Press has it right-vote for incumbents.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 1, 10 11:28 AM
So the Right is not only supporting a man who made millions of dollars outscoursing American jobs but is going to engage in voter intimidation. What next....red arm bands with a black symbol in a white circle?
VOTE LOCAL....VOTE BISHOP!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 11:36 AM
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How about you check out Bishop's voting record before you tell everyone to vote for him. Outsourcing starts at the top and that means the president.
By LongIslander (43), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 10 12:09 PM
People here mention the Black Panthers. Is there anyone here that remembers them from the '70s killing police and saying down with whitey?
By LongIslander (43), HAMPTON BAYS on Nov 1, 10 12:11 PM
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By mackt (73), montauk on Nov 1, 10 12:25 PM
Has anyone considered how much the lack of regulation in the financial industry has led to the current economic conditions?

Just wondering...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Nov 1, 10 7:56 PM
Has anyone considered how much giving loans to people that were not qualified has lead to the current economic conditions?
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 1, 10 8:24 PM
No i mean Clinton, Frank and Dodd Do you really want to go hear because I will clean your clock!
Nov 1, 10 9:30 PM appended by joe hampton
here
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 1, 10 9:30 PM
Human greed. Nothing more, nothing less was the root cause. If they just would have denied toxic mortgages in the firstplace, there would have been a glut of a supply, and prices MAY have dropped.

We all know THAT didn't happen...
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Nov 2, 10 9:34 PM
Tim Bishop is a local who fights for Long Islanders and issues that are important to Long Islanders. Let's support one of our own tomorrow.
Vote Bishop....Vote Local!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 8:45 PM
Lets not
By They call me (2370), southampton on Nov 1, 10 8:49 PM
Altschuler is an outsider who made millions of dollars outsourcing good American jobs to India. Now he wants to try and buy our congressional seat. So LETS vote for a native East Ender who know our issues.
Vote for TIm Bishop tomorrrow.
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 1, 10 9:31 PM
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Nooo This election is a reforendem on obama, unions and big government.
Sooo Lets Not!
P.S. Dont worry Al Franken is safe untill 2012
By They call me (2370), southampton on Nov 1, 10 9:59 PM
early returns has altschuler with a slight lead. cleaning house today folks! whistle while you work...beautiful day to oust a bloated insider. grassroots is what it is all about. dissent is patriotic remember!!!??? ONWARD TO VICTORY!
By mackt (73), montauk on Nov 2, 10 6:40 AM
do you think it was dumb luck or good foresight that bishop voted to extend unemployment to 99 weeks?
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 7:38 AM
Tim Bishop is the best candidate for Eastern Long Island. His family has been here for 12 generations and he knows the issues of Eastern Long Island.
Altschuler moved here two years ago and is dumping millions of his outsourcing money into this race in order to buy our Congressional seat.
VOTE FOR TIM BISHOP.......Vote for a LONG ISLANDER!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 7:44 AM
bishop has been here for 12 generations? wow, that would make him oh, about 1100 years old. vote for a more youthful candidate, vote altschuler.
By yessiree (78), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 7:49 AM
Altschuler has just moved here.....he has outsourced TEN THOUSAND good American jobs to India.
Altschuler knows Mumbai better than he knows Long Island!
Send Alschuler away to try and buy another Congressional seat.
VOTE LOCAL.......VOTE BISHOP!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 7:56 AM
Took my copy of the Press and voted exactly like they told me to vote. Trust the experts.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 2, 10 8:24 AM
that's thinking for yourself eastend! that's one for bishop...hahahaha, next time, trust yourself, we've got faith in you, you should have it in yourself.
By mackt (73), montauk on Nov 2, 10 8:26 AM
I just voted for Tim Bishop.....
Let's send Randy Outsourcer packing!
Vote Local....Vote Bishop!
By SHNative (554), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 8:43 AM
i just voted. for altschuler. with 11 of my friends. it was very satisfying.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Nov 2, 10 10:09 AM
YES IT IS GOING TO BE A BEAUTIFUL DAY!
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 2, 10 11:53 AM
now that we are here, the moment is upon us...am curious how turkey native and sh progress are feeling. your president is headed to india (put that in your pipe and smoke it) apparently good enough for altschuler, good enough for obama.

except obama has 200 airplanes, 540 rooms at the taj mahal and the trip will cost $200 million/day.

There will be an announcement later where to bring canned goods and warm but not too worn in clothes for our soon to be unemployed representative ...more
By mackt (73), montauk on Nov 2, 10 1:09 PM
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Randy has a real shot -------- Come on Joe Miller,Angel and Rubio
By They call me (2370), southampton on Nov 2, 10 1:58 PM
where is philathome!!!?? he was so upset about the mcdonald's in ohio slipping a note in a few employee's paychecks. work out today is that Harrah's casino is strong arming thousands of employees to vote for harry reid. lame casino, lame rep. but something tells me this won't upset philathome as much as the mickey d's ''scandal''. probably a vegetarian.
By dylan32 (64), east hampton on Nov 2, 10 3:17 PM
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Dylan you are so right. Its actually comical that Phil didnt even know that McDonald is a franchise operation. If true the HArrahs situation is far worse. I am crossing my fingers for Randy but regardless of the outcome I am looking foward to a restoration of sanity.
By razza5350 (1898), East Hampton on Nov 2, 10 4:00 PM
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i actually feel a victory coming on for altschuler. gee, people are rejecting obama and the libs more than i had any idea....gallup and rassmusen are on radio now saying that we are in unchartered territory. lovely.
By mackt (73), montauk on Nov 2, 10 4:38 PM
and yes razza, whatever the outcome, if bishop isn't a limping, twitching ball of nerves after this - we are definitely getting some sanity back. this wasn't anger today, it was a cause...one borne out of love of country and family. peace brothers and sisters. have a nice evening. power to the people don't delay!
By mackt (73), montauk on Nov 2, 10 4:42 PM
Oh where oh where Has Mr Z Been ??? Very quite the last few days
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 2, 10 7:03 PM
Progress you seem shy today as well, And Phil, High hat Sh Native Hellooo anyone home
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 2, 10 7:06 PM
Dagdavid,peoplefirst,nelli.....Anyone?
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 2, 10 7:09 PM
fcmcmann ,yearrounder you all ok?
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 2, 10 7:12 PM
Maybe they are all out trick or treating In there Nancy Pelosi and Barneys Frank Costumes
By 27dan (2365), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 7:28 PM
Maybe they are all out trick or treating In there Nancy Pelosi and Barneys Frank Costumes
By 27dan (2365), Southampton on Nov 2, 10 7:28 PM
Twelve hours yesterday, thirteen today. Long days, didn't sit down for lunch. Happens sometimes, but the last two days of the week get cut shorter. Can't go over 40, company budget rules.

National Debt increase by POTUS in constant dollars:

Under Carter: 42%
Under Reagan: 189%
Bush Act 1: 55.6%
Clinton: 36%
Bush Act 2: 89%

Numbers tend not to lie, especially when accurate. "Republicans" talk a good game, and I hope we don't get fooled again...

I ...more
By Mr. Z (10239), North Sea on Nov 2, 10 9:32 PM
I might have hung those don't tread on me flags on the overpass on 27 ;)
By joe hampton (3121), south hampton on Nov 3, 10 8:44 PM
Nothing better than a complete recount and numerous court rulings that will take a month. Both candites will declare victory at least 3 times.
By EastEnd68 (888), Westhampton on Nov 6, 10 5:28 PM
Drive in movies, Coopers Beach Southampton Village Monday nights